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huxleypiggles
3 years ago

Good morning fellow supplicants.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Good morning, hp! Prayerfully.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Good morning all.

If they still had them in those “American” schools…

TSull
TSull
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Good morning hp!

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Good morning, HP! And good morning, downtickers!

Mark
3 years ago

DS censorship watch

Anyone see what this post was, that seems possibly to have been deleted for reasons of political correctness?

Without seeing the post, of course, there’s no way to know if it was legitimately removed for “Profanity and abuse”, or if it was inciting to violence, or if it was removed because someone doesn’t like criticism of homosexual activity and/or people who engage in it.

I’m always interested to track carefully the decline of “free speech” forums into the usual pc censorship, because decades of experience tells me the “slippery slope” is very real indeed.

https://staging.dailysceptic.org/2022/05/24/news-round-up-439/#comment-808261

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Criticism or not, the words re. monkeypox “prolonged physical contact” and “broken skin” did strike me…

PS I tend to put “homosexual” rather than homosexual as there’s no such word in our old OED).

Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Maybe the old and more expansive term “sodomite” has gone the way of “nigger” for the politically correct amongst us?

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

They never did tell us if “nigger” counts as profanity (despite appearing in children’s books within living memory).

Perhaps this post will be deleted too? I guess if the “Americans” say it’s unacceptable, we have to follow…

NeilParkin
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The N-word is only problematic if spoke by a white person. It harks back to a time that we shouldn’t be terribly proud of, but it was what it was at the time.

pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

The ‘n-word’ is only problematic because it has become a way for the squeamish, and cowardly, to continue to say ‘nigger’ and feel superior about it. If it were to be visited with the same opprobrium, both would fall out of use… there really isn’t any reason, outside a discussion like this, perhaps, to use either.

TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Yeah, there was a lot going on at that time, like all those people in Africa selling and eating each other. Funny how none of the ones in America fancied going home to Africa.
Wonder why? Could they have become racist?

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Well I also remember ‘Golly wogs’ on marmalade jars as a kid that eventually morphed into just ‘golly’, but I can totally see why that was banned. And the “N” word, well unless you’re a black rapper it’s completely off limits. But if you’re black and you belt another black person at a high-end event full of ‘elites’ that’s totally kosher.
I think somebody should try the experiment in reverse and a white celeb should assault another white person and see if they get to win their award, sans police involvement….

Beowulf
Beowulf
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

It was on Robertson’s Jams. I noticed, on a previous thread, a number of people referring to Calvin Robinson as Calvin Robertson and naturally, being a stickler for facts, I pointed out the error. Result? Down votes aplenty. I’m not sure what inference to draw from that.

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I’m sure MrTea can elaborate as it was his comment. And just to add, I had nothing to do with it being removed. I only made the observation that it was a bit of an old-fashioned word and I thought it sailing a bit close to the wind tbh, as I can’t really imagine many gay men referring to themselves as “sodomites”. Also ‘Monkeybollox’ is not exactly a disease exclusive to gay men, so that was factually incorrect.

The only occasional post I’ve reported was the out and out abusive ones from the troll who doesn’t have the balls to hang out here, but dwells exclusively in the ‘basement’ comments section to “pick on everybody”, as he puts it. Free speech is one thing but if it turns into harassment and abuse it crosses a line. I’ve had a post removed because I swore FFS!

Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Interesting, thanks. Useful to know who made the post at least.

I’m just interested to know exactly how expansively the moderators are interpreting “profanity” and “abuse” for views they regard as uncomfortable, at the moment.

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

When that notice first appeared I took it upon myself to eff and blind like a trooper out of principle, as I find the notice really quite insulting and patronising actually, just to test the boundaries and see what it would take to get a warning or a ban. Well apart from one single post being removed in this section, nothing was removed in the ‘basement’ comments section, no warnings given and obviously no ban.

I do find the other comments section to be a lot more informal and laid-back actually, possibly the DS staff don’t tend to visit there with the ‘riff-raff’ because our standards may be deemed a bit lower and we regularly chat off-topic, though lots of useful information is posted and shared too, I hasten to add. The resident troll helps to lower those standards even further possibly but we now all ignore him so he can’t disrupt and derail the threads as he used to. It’s always best not to get sucked into such toxic BS and give them what they want, which is attention and to start an exchange which leads nowhere.

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

“Also ‘Monkeybollox’ is not exactly a disease exclusive to gay men, so that was factually incorrect.”

Syphillis isn’t exclusive to gay men but it isn’t irrelevant that they’re much, much more likely to have it than straight men,

In the case of current monkeypox infections outside the monkeypox homeland, I’ve seen a plausible explanation that it occurred simultaneously in so many locations because gay men returned home from serious, errm, partying where they were all infected.

I’m 61 so remember the lies about AIDS.

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Yes but the OP posted “it is a disease of the sodomite”, which it is not. That’s the part I took exception to. Yes there was a big ole leather fetishist rave attended by gay people ( not sure if men only ) over the border from me in Belgium, so that was identified as a ‘super-spreader event’. About 6 cases in the NL now, which is hardly cause for alarm given that I’ll bet there’s more cases of public lice, gonorrhea or whatever other lovely STD you might care to name as a direct result of that one event or at any given moment in time anywhere in society, gay and straight being both affected.

I do hope MrTea comes back and doesn’t think I’m having a go. We should all be able to disagree and debate like big boys and girls. Differences of opinion are a thing, and not necessarily a bad thing. Come back MrTea!! 🙂

Mark
3 years ago

Two very good pieces from Brian Berletic that between them explain a lot about how the world works, that most people within the Empire seem just unable to grasp.

Those lavishly funded and deeply connected organisations, both the state-funded “NGOs” like the US National Endowment for Democracy and the “private” NGOs like Soros’ Open Society, operate, under the cover of their high minded-sounding aims, as subversion machines for promoting the elite ideology of the US sphere, woke globalism. Too many people think these organisations must be the good guys because of their names and the supposedly nice-sounding causes they espouse, but they are pure poison.

Apart from the solid summaries of the progress of the war in the Ukraine, Berletic here highlights the ongoing attempts to do to Belarus what was done to the Ukraine, for basically the same reasons, and the similar US attempts to destabilise and co-opt states to the US sphere’s cause in Asia.

Russian Ops in Ukraine: Ukraine is Blocking Own Ports, Losing Ground in Donbas

US Sees Anti-China Setback after Philippine Elections

Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The ultimate goal of the US sphere elites is the incorporation of the entire world into one de facto bloc ruled by them, with one ruling ideology (woke globalism), because dissent from that ideology is by definition evil – sexist, racist, homophobic, bigoted etc. They have no compunction about destabilising and destroying nations that get in their way, because their cause is just and their opponents are evil. In order to achieve that goal, no amount of suffering and death is too much, and no tool is too dirty, nor any hypocrisy too shameful. They despise patriotism, but will use outright thuggish nationalist fanaticism to achieve their ends, in places like the Ukraine and Belarus. They despise faith, but will use murderous religious fanaticism to achieve their goals, in places like Afghanistan, Libya, Syria. The US regime is the primary tool of these woke globalists, the heart of the Borg. But this is not truly American imperialism. There is little or nothing meaningfully American about it. The resistance to it in the US primarily comes from true American patriots. But, because the US regime is the primary tool, the source of most of the funding and the dirtier subversion assets,… Read more »

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

So they don’t believe in diversity (I mean real diversity), and are genocidal? I suppose it’s reasonable to assume that there will be attempts to fix the next “American” presidential election.

Amtrup
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

So very much this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

BurlingtonBertie
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

An insightful article into how we got to the position whereby the true power is held by a few families & a few banks. I learned quite a lot! It complements your links well
Hyperinflation, Fascism and War: How the New World Order May Be Defeated Once More (substack.com)

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

They do like their naming rituals. The invasion of Iraq was called Operation Iraqi Freedom.

George Soros gave $100 million to “Human Rights Watch”. We should all be so grateful. In March this year, they produced this masterpiece of equivocation:

Two Years On, What Has Covid-19 Taught Us? | Human Rights Watch (hrw.org)

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

That reminds me, is it a human rights abuse yet to say “his penis” when you should say “her penis”?

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Now Hugh – you well know that it should be “her/his/its/their penis”.

Please note that I have tried to be sensitive by using alphabetical order.

Mind you, it’s high time that the gross discrimination implicit in the alphabet should be investigated.

So I apologise in advance to the letter Z, which has been grossly abused of late by those damned Ruskies. You can offend them all you like.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

The psychological damage that must have been done to those whose surname (sorry, last name) ends with “Y”…

pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Please note that I have tried to be sensitive by using alphabetical order.”

Fascist! The alphabet is a symbol of the white supremacist patriarchy, which you can expect it will soon be announced will no longer be taught in schools…

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

They’ll be dispensing with language altogether soon as it is one of the prime indicators of one’s learning, background etc and therefore a tool of oppression!

watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

But can I call it Zee – like wot de yanks do?

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  watersider

Maria ‘Zeee’ likes to add another e to make herself look fashionable.

https://au.linkedin.com/in/maria-zaric-42107967

Everything she touches turns to gold, according to her CV. Have a read of it and judge for yourself.

maria.jpg
TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

‘e’s a smasher.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  watersider

That won’t save you, watersider,

I’m afraid you will have to report yourself to a re-education centre, as I must. I understand that in the UK, that means turning on the BBC.

TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

Not getting it right shows a complete lack of respect for the penis’ feelings and, ipso facto, is a hate crime.

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago

I must confess that made me laugh – which is also disrespectful.

It’s so hard (if you’ll forgive the expression) to get this stuff right. How do those wonderful woke people manage?

Gregoryno6
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

‘That penis’ is a safe alternative. So long as you make it a statement and not an exclamation of horror when it’s revealed.

pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Not yet, I think, though I believe it is a non-crime hate incident… in Scotland, at least?

Mark
3 years ago

Amid increasing signs of US sphere desperation at the building military defeat of the Ukraine, did we just see the initiation of a new Polish-Ukrainian confederation?

Poland & Ukraine Are Merging Into A De Facto Confederation

Alter Ego
Alter Ego
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I wonder what will happen to the statues of Bandera. Or will the Poles choose to have historical amnesia with regard to him?

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

And what will happen if Poland is invaded?

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Have a walk down Eign Gate in Hereford with the Google Street Man and count the number of Polish shops, and then think “What will happen if England is invaded?”

Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Invaders do not build shops. This is not a hard concept to grasp but it is impossible for you to grasp, apparently.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

Feeding the troll.

Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Alter Ego

The kind of thing blind eyes were invented for – at least for the duration of the present emergency…

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

Surely police in London roughing up women who were peacefully protesting against horrendous human rights abuses during lockdown did that?

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

Now I may not be an economist, but the scandal of large scale money printing since 2009, and especially during the last two years, was always going to end badly. Only so long you can run away from economic reality.

Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

This was exactly the kind of situation referred to in the quote attributed to Ayn Rand: “We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.”

twinkytwonk
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I fancied fish and chips yesterday so headed into town to buy some. However as they now cost £12 I didn’t bother. ( East Yorkshire).

pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

You ain’t seen nothing yet… I suspect.

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
3 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

I’d want gold-flakes on my chips for that price…

huxleypiggles
3 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

Wow!

CynicalRealist
3 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

Bloody hell! Was that some sort of gourmet fish and chip shop? Even in York (where things tend to be more expensive than most of Yorkshire) it isnt that expensive!

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Haha yes. I lived in York. Betty’s Tearoom was a place only frequented by tourists as I recall. But fish and chips were never that dear. There is that chain of fish and chips shops though isn’t there? They were always over-priced…Can’t think of the name as I’ve lived abroad so long…Harry Ramsden?

pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

It will be soon CR… Follow the trail of the fish from sea to plate and every aspect of it has got more expensive, from the trawlermen’s fuel bills, to their tuck on board, the trawler’s own fuel and then the electricity to run the ice machines in the processing plant, the fuel in the refrigerated lorries to distribute it and the the electricity, flour and oil required to cook it by a person whose own living costs have also gone through the roof… the price will inevitably be dearer, if you can get it at all, one of my local chippies has folded, because of the costs, just this week.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
  • WEF back, learned nothing” – The WEF is committed to a totalising world view, so every problem will be solved by more globalisation, more migration, more universal regulation, more destruction of tradition, writes Alexander Adams in Bournbrook.

I seem to remember a certain organization whose answer to everything was more “Europe”. The battle for independence is far from over.

Mark
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Speaking of the WEF, let’s have no more nonsense about Russia and the WEF types being in league. The battle lines have been drawn up pretty clearly, and there’s no doubt which side the WEF is on.

https://www.dw.com/en/russia-dominates-davos-wef-even-as-russians-go-missing/a-61906245

ChaunceyTinker
ChaunceyTinker
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Of course speakers at the WEF can always be trusted to say exactly what they are really thinking (I am being sarcastic here of course, very sarcastic).

ChaunceyTinker
ChaunceyTinker
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

WEF back, learned nothing

On the contrary, I think the WEF have learned a great deal since the beginning of 2020, they have learned that:

  • An invented climate change crisis is not effective in terrifying the majority into submission, but an invented health crisis is very effective indeed to that end.
  • A rich elite which owns the pharmaceutical industry and the media and academia and largely controls politics can do almost anything it likes, including getting away with murder and fraud on an unprecedented scale.

So far at least … whether they continue to get away with these things is up to the rest of us.

TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

BTW Hugh, how does one edit one’s comments on this website?
I’ve tried every icon on here without success so far.

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago

After you have posted a comment….

… an icon that looks to me like a gear can be found bottom right. Hover on it and it says “manage comment”. Click and you can edit.

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

The annoying thing is it time’s out after about 15min I think. No idea why the edit function would require a time limit but there you go..

TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

How do you get back into it once you’ve pressed the Post Comment slot? What do you click?

Mogwai
3 years ago

You need to hover at the bottom right of your comment and “edit” will pop up. Or a little circular shape then ‘edit’, can’t remember. It’s a pain in the arse as it’s not visible all of the time and is tiny.

TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Thank you. That has had me stymied for some time.

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago

Hover over your posted comment and it will appear.

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Perhaps it’s only intended to give you time to correct typos, rather than change your comment so much that subsequent criticism looks strange.

pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Editing a comment, once a reply has been posted is bad form… otherwise, not so much? Deleting it is even worse!

pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Me either, nor why this is the only site I’ve come across that doesn’t let you know when someone’s relied, unless you ask for a notification and makes you scroll through to find your original post… I suspect the comments function was bought from a dodgy geezer in the pub?

Dodderydude
Dodderydude
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

Hope you see this comment! If you go to the top of the comments section where there is a ‘header bar’ (which tells you, among other things, how many comments have been posted) there is a small head and shoulders icon. You have to be logged in to see this. Click on it and it will give you a chronological list of all your own previous comments on the website. Click on any one you want and it will take you to where the comment was posted.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

We must quit the WHO. Stand by for the next “American” presidential election to be rigged…

Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Stand by? It is already happening. Trump’s pick in a recent US governor’s primary got knocked out.

MSM trying to maintain that Trump no longer controls the Republican base and that Trump 2024 won’t be happening.

De Santis need’s to be gearing up and fast.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

I would suggest that it is a crime against humanity if they don’t.

TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

If Net Zero closes all the power stations, at least the shutting off of hectoring from the BBC, Westminster and Whitehall will be some small relief, for me at least.
It might mean coppers on bicycles pedalling round the streets barking instructions to come and get the next jab, but one of them falling off will give us a laugh.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

And red and yellow and brown? Maybe even white (you’ll know why if they start quoting Shakespeare at you)…

NeilParkin
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Its quite noticable in ‘Black History Month’ how little Black history there is in the UK. They keep rolling out dear old Mary Seacole, and even a trumpeter in the court of Henry 8th, but cant seem to grasp that apart from a few sailors and traders, (less than 10,000 people in 1947) black history started with Windrush. My wife had the misfortune to do the BHM assembly at her school which covered such academic luminaries as Stormzy, and Anthony Joshua, and ‘Slavery, bad’. If they want people to know more about black history, you have to look to Africa, but who does? Its a messy history of Empires and slavery and tribalism, interesting nonetheless, but reflective of what happened in Europe by the evil white.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
3 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Windrush was that disastrous attempt to undermine working class pay by subsidising migration that has left a legacy of high-crime areas?

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

Or Uvalde (Texas). Maybe try teaching the ten commandments in schools? It’s a fact that places with a higher belief in hell have less crime (Hello Emerald Fox)…

watersider
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The tragic loss of life in Texas is reportedly perpetrated by one of those insane sad people who have been indoctrinated by the sexual engineers. Thought he was a sort of female it appears.

Emerald Fox
3 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Religions are to keep the masses in check. People are threatened that they will go to ‘Hell’ if naughty and steal from the rich (who made themselves wealthy by stealing and murdering). It’s a form of control – no different from the ‘Covid lockdowns’. You are told what to believe by those in charge.
Other opinions are available!

Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Congratulations on denying that production is possible.

Wealth is not zero-sum in nature, an elementary fact that you pretend doesn’t exist.

Mogwai
3 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

For once I’m inclined to agree with you! LOL I’m not a religious person either but other people can do what they want. I got very pissed off during the lockdowns when they also closed churches and other places of worship, or brought in stupid rules such as masking obligations for worshipers. I would defend anybody’s right to worship because it’s so fundamental a thing for many and, obviously during these troubled times especially, was a huge means of having that collective support and feeling of solidarity that many lack in their lives ordinarily, even independent of Covid bollocks.

But yes, it can’t be denied that many atrocities have been committed historically ( and still are in places ) in the name of religion and using this as some sort of justification to persecute and terrorize people, including children, whilst conveniently not acknowledging all the moral codes they are themselves breaking ( murder being an obvious example ) in a tremendously sadistic and hypocritical fashion was/is just sick. I’m actually not clear on how one would differentiate between a cult and a religion because it could be argued that all religions start out as cults.

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
  • Stirring the melting pot” – Like any good villain in a horror movie, some policy ideas are both terrible and refuse to die. One example is ‘mandatory ethnicity pay gap reporting’, writes Richard Norrie in the Critic.

So where do I get my ethnicity measured? Not one of those ancestry companies that sell on your DNA to big pharma?

Oh wait a moment. Aren’t there certain instruments that ethnologists use for this purpose?

Seriously, there’s an Indian I know and I never even guessed he was Indian until he told me (or even South Asian).

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago

“But he’s a man. Just look at his penis”

“You mean her penis, you bigot”.

Now does this count as profanity and abuse, I wonder…

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

“Andrew Bailey is floundering in the face of soaring inflation.”

I saw a clip of this idiot in front of the Parliamentary Committee. Let’s have it right:

Andrew Bailey is floundering.

Totally lost and hopelessly out of his depth.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

“Black history lessons to be compulsory for all police.”

Why?

Hugh
Hugh
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

because yellow (or brown or red or especially white) history lessons aren’t a thing.

There’s a reason why black history is the only colour to have its own month (though i must admit the reason escapes me).

TheBluePill
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

It’d be a little awkward and unproductive if they looked at other periods of history, such as the rise of fascism in the early 20th century.

huxleypiggles
3 years ago

“There’s never been a better time to ditch the Net Zero agenda.”

The Speccie doing its usual soft shoe shuffle round the problem.

Definitely NOT worth reading in full.

pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

They won’t ditch it, because it’s not about ‘Net Zero’. You don’t have to be a conspiracist to understand that, just some basic Maths will inevitably lead you to that conclusion.

Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Yep HP.

I recently read a “soft shoe shuffle” it did around party gate and ALL the other liberties taken by ministers etc where it was one rule for plebs and another for themselves (like Alok Sharma flying all over the world instead of doing zoom and Gove going to Champon’s League final, picking up a dose of covid and then not going into self isolation but managing to get self into a daily testing programme instead etc etc) – there were such a lot of examples it was mind blowing.

All laughing at the plebs of course – in plain sight. Good round up of the examples but either the author just didn’t get what she was describing (there was no really deadly virus or none of them would have taken those ‘risks’) or she was not editorially permitted to reveal what she got to her readership. Which do you think it was – didn’t get it or couldn’t reveal it?

Londo Mollari
3 years ago

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban declared a wartime state of emergency immediately after his new government was installed.

The state of emergency, a new tool Parliament approved earlier on Tuesday, will take effect at midnight and will give the government “maneuvering room and the ability to react immediately” to the fallout from the war in neighboring Ukraine, Orban said in a video message on his Facebook page. 

The government will announce its first measures under the emergency on Wednesday, he said.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-24/hungary-s-orban-declares-state-of-emergency-over-war-economy

Moist Von Lipwig
3 years ago

Message to Geoffrey Robertson: if Kim Jong Johnson hadn’t imposed lockdown in the first place, the Met would not have been able to do this.

Lockdown Sceptic
3 years ago

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https://rumble.com/v15xvhv-jack-posobiec-detained-by-wef-at-davos.html
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3 years ago

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Lucan Grey
3 years ago

 “Andrew Bailey’s bizarre denial that printing money during the pandemic was among the causes of rising prices just makes him look silly” It makes Matthew Lynn and those of people who are of the same ilk look silly. All government spending is printing money and all taxing is destroying money. Always has been – for at least 155 years. The difference is called saving money, and when it is saved it isn’t being spent and therefore can’t be the cause of inflation. The price changes we are seeing are due to a terms of trade shift. It’s an unusual shift because the denomination is kWh – energy supply We import fewer kWh for our exports than we did a few years ago. Our locally produced kWh is also less efficiently generated. That loss has to be allocated somewhere with somebody accepting or being force to accept they won’t be able to have the imports they were previously getting. By default price competition will allocate that loss to the poor who will end up with less heating and less food. If we don’t want that then we have to agree who gets the loss instead. Taxes have to go up, government… Read more »

Amtrup
3 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

“”” ….. The price changes we are seeing are due to a terms of trade shift. It’s an unusual shift because the denomination is kWh – energy supply.

We import fewer kWh for our exports than we did a few years ago. Our locally produced kWh is also less efficiently generated.

That loss has to be allocated somewhere with somebody accepting or being force to accept they won’t be able to have the imports they were previously getting. ….”””

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🙂 This sounds like an interesting and intriguingly different angle on the phenomenon, but I am not sure I understand what you mean. Would you mind explaining/elaborating a little? 😉

peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

I totally agree that the UK generates kWh less efficiently than before, or to put another simpler way the ludicrously high £bn in subsidies paid to ‘unreliables’ has to be paid somehow, and most will be felt by the poor who proportionately pay more for energy.
What I can’t get my head round is your comment ‘We import fewer kWh for our exports than we did a few years ago’. And if true why that adds to the problem.
As the UK becomes more and more dependent on service exports, the ‘kWh per GDP’ becomes lower , true for all GDP not just the export element, albeit the fastest growing export is ‘services’. You could argue this increases efficiency overall and should reduce costs not increase them and run counter to your argument.

peyrole
peyrole
3 years ago

I am going to make a comment that will probably have me ‘labelled’ as something ‘bad’ for ever. But here goes. I am struck by the very large percentage of Jewish descended Eastern Europeans who have ‘made it good’ in the US or to a lesser extent the UK and are now apparently in the forefront of just about every trend that people are sceptical about in this forum. The WEF is full of them, at least two appear in the round up today, Soros and Susan Wojcicki, the Uk media , in particular the Times, is full of them. The US administration past and present and executive branch is full of them. No doubt there are people with similar heritage that are as sceptical as the majority on here, but they appear to be far less numerous and vocal. I think this goes a long way to explaining the ongoing and long lasting US attitude to Russia and why its not as extreme regarding China. What I don’t understand is why when they have taken advantage of the openness of traditional democratic western countries they now seem determined to work to ‘close the door’ behind them and turn those… Read more »

pjar
3 years ago

Well, I’ve just watched the Gervais thing… if there’s really ‘a Twitter pile on’, there are some people out there who are working incredibly hard to be offended…

iane
iane
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

Yep: they deserve to be paid over-time plus a fat bonus.

pjar
3 years ago
Reply to  iane

I see what you did there… :o)

Star
3 years ago
Reply to  pjar

Gervais in that clip is only saying the obvious. “Obvious” is an over-used word, but up until recently it was obvious in all human societies that an adult with a todger and a pair of b*lls was a “MAN” – a different entity from an adult with a f*nny and a womb, who was understood to be a “WOMAN”.

What sick times we live in…

It’s good to see the falseness of the dominant ideology mocked and derided.

dearieme
dearieme
3 years ago

printing money during the pandemic”: the problem wasn’t the pandemic it was the lockdowns.

Milo
Milo
3 years ago
Reply to  dearieme

I think it was both.

The plandemic necessitated permitted a lot of money to be spaffed up the wall (technical term used by PM) on things like PPE (a lot of which was unusable and had to be burned), track and trace (37 billion) and massive PCR testing and then the jab roll out – that is plandemic spending.

The lockdowns shut down the economy or considerably hampered it (tho several brances of the economy did rather well out of it) then money was spent on furlough, eat out to help out (but that was post lockdown) and grant funding to some organisations in need.

I’d say it was more plandemic than lockdown which contributed to the something like £450 billion spent over 2 years.

Star
3 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Agreed, it’s both. But world economic output in 2020 fell by a much larger amount than GBP 0.5 trillion. And incomes for most people in countries such as Britain and the US didn’t fall hugely at that time. What that means is that governments borrowed huge amounts from banks and funds – sometimes described with the unhelpful term “printing money”. The banks and funds don’t lend money for free. Governments are now acting in accordance with their nature and their orders – as a bunch of bankers’ runners – to “collect” payments on their masters’ debt by suppressing real incomes. (Or they are adminstering a “cost of living crisis” as scribblers are told to call it.) Every time a person works double hours for less income and less food, a banker jumps for joy. It was obvious that an enormous attack on living standards was coming, and that an important mechanism for this would be inflation. You can’t get an economy contracting suddenly like that without inflation ensuing. Whether there will be hyperinflation, I don’t know. It’s certainly possible. It may even be probable. One definition of hyperinflation is > 50% per month, which kept up for a year means… Read more »

Star
3 years ago

Organ-trading in the Ukraine? *********************************** “Ukrainian servicemen load bodies of Russian soldiers onto refrigerated rail cars” (Reuters). “Volodymr Lyamzin, the head of Ukraine’s civil-military cooperation, (…) said there were several refrigerator trains stationed in different regions across Ukraine where the bodies of Russian soldiers were being kept.” See also: “Ukraine gathers bodies of dead Russians for prisoner exchange” (Guardian). “Bodies are sometimes used as part of prisoner exchanges and other times in exchanges for Ukrainian bodies, according to Anton Ivannikov, captain of the Ukrainian armed forces military-civil cooperation branch, which is coordinating the effort.” Listen – it may be a norm of war to return enemy bodies when the war is over, but this is something DIFFERENT. It is NOT normal in war for the military to spend resources on keeping enemy dead bodies in specially supplied refrigerated railway carriages. (And war is all about resources.) What’s most likely is this: 1. Organ traders got in there, very early on. 2. Some prisoners may be being killed to order for their organs 3. “So some have been killed that there’s no demand for? Hey, we can use those suckers’ bodies too to our advantage!” “‘We are gathering all the documents,… Read more »