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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Lockdown wasn’t worth it”.

There was a claim at a SAGE meeting that lockdowns would result in 75,000 deaths. I wonder what the latest estimate is?

The government’s justification for these dreadful restrictions was that there would be far more deaths if they didn’t lock down. However, from all the data I’ve seen, this has been completely wrong. The major country with the worst mortality rate appears to be Peru, if you believe their “new” data – and they locked down hard. Meanwhile, Belarus, where there has been no disaster with overall mortality, continued with spectator sport last year. People will be dying because of the knock on effects of these restrictions (and maybe the “vaccines”) for years to come. When will our politicians admit they got it disastrously wrong (or, for that matter, how formidable are the logistical challenges to securing convictions at a proposed “Nuremberg 2”.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Yawn. Our current predicament has bugger all to do with a fantasy virus.

Apologies for being rude but please do some research.

Agenda 2030 would be a start.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I got that book, “Endgame”, but haven’t got round to reading much of it. Any bits particularly worth reading?

Anyway, the point is, even on their own terms, the government (and other governments) were wrong.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The C1984 is simply the cover for a technocratic fascism.

Schwab – by 2030 you will own nothing and be happy.

Gates – we are overpopulated by 7 billion. I can reduce that with vaccines.

Charlie boy – a “window of opportunity,” pinching from Schwab.

The Reset starts with depopulation and the target date is 2030.

What is happening now has ball all to do with second-raters like Bozo. They are crummy little corporals at the bottom of the Davos / Globocap heap, itching to be seen to be doing the right thing – killing people, and hitting the targets set for them. Just look at Jabid and Handicock – they are loving this.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

To be fair, at first it was plausible that politicians were genuinely worried if they knew a virus had escaped from that laboratory in Wuhan (and if they knew about Fauci’s gain of function connections to the place). But it is hard to see a benign explanation for some of the things happening now.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

First off, I firmly believe this is a power grab, frankly I don’t really care who or why, we need to concentrate on stopping it, that doesn’t necessarily mean focusing on the perpetrators.

It’s just possible the schwab/Gates panto is just a distraction I have no idea they don’t confide in me, but them openly providing this narrative is suspect. But you’re right most of the players in this theatre are hardly different from the rest of the herd, they’re doing it to pay their own mortgages.

It just shows how easily the show can be produced & directed, & it’s evident none of this is possible without deep state complicity, the most secretive part of the whole circus.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I’ve said before that this shambles has resembled a coup d’etat by the pharmaceutical industry – who have had far too much influence for a long time (and who produced certain chemicals for a former German regime). However, I dare say there are other interests seeking to influence the situation – and as I say, some aspects of this shambles are worse than in a novel I read over 20 years ago abut a fictional takeover by the “New World Order”.

Frightening times…

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Its now a common cold, and there’s bugger all excuse to do anything. The whole thing is a set up..

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

Correct.

Keep the circus alive.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

Isn’t the IFR rate now about 0.1% (down from 0.3% early on)?
Anyway, similar to the flu. And still no exit plan.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Saw a figure on here earlier that stated for under 60’s, no co-morbidities it was 0.03%.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Oh yes, it’s negligible for under 60’s. The one that got me was a figure of zero “covid” deaths for healthy 15-17 year olds – but they were still “offered” the “vaccine”, and despite the JCVI recommending against it. One wonders about the motives of the people pushing this (well if I finish reading that book, perhaps I’ll know!).

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Early on the WHO was claiming the IFR was 3.4 percent. Pure agenda driven terrorism. World leading epidemiologist Professor Ioannidis of Stanford University put that straight in this interview directly and in writing to confirm that any notion of a super killer mega virus was completely false. He puts the IFR at around 0.17 percent. The world is still not listening, but this info has been available for a LONG time and GovUK released info confirming their knowledge of the low IFR on 19th March, 2020.

BREAKING NEWS ! Prof Dr John Ioannidis Stanford University On Real Data On Coronavirus Pandemic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btvDL6kIDsA

Global perspective of COVID-19 epidemiology for a full-cycle pandemic
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/eci.13423

Global infection fatality rate is 0.15-0.20% (0.03-0.04% in those <70 years)

Status of COVID-19
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#status-of-covid-19

As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK.

Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall)

Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

I think I have my first cold in 2 years!

If this is what covid feels like then no wonder it’s spreading, no way would I stay at home for 2 weeks until it has cleared up. If I was laid up with the flu, I wouldn’t be able to get out of course.

Didn’t we used to deal with viruses this way, way back in 2019?

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

There’s a cold (phlegmy cough) going around that’s much worse for the average person in terms of wanting to stop work than COVID, I had both (well the PCR and LFT says I did) and worked through COVID with a box of generic lemsip then was totally bored for 8 days house arrest.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Government report last summer predicted 200,000 extra deaths from collateral damage of lockdown. We didn’t hear much about that report after that.
https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/20/coronavirus-lockdown-cause-200000-extra-deaths-13014848/

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

This is an extremely worrying development. Should nature run its course, the virus is likely to become much less virulent as it seeks to coexist with its hosts. The mass inoculation of people with gene therapy may or may not be putting pressure on the virus. There are arguments for and against. One thing is certain, the virus will continue to mutate forever. Are the maniacs currently running the UK suggesting that all humans will be injected with a gene therapy every single time it mutates? If not, then why now? What is the long-term plan? Why is former international banker and Pfizer salesman Mr Sajid Javid not telling the people what the long term plan is?

This is totally out of control.

isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Agree totally. The lunatics really have taken over the asylum. The question is how do we stop them?

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Presumably the long term plan is to have close to 100% compliance with a “vaccine” dose every three months for ever. What’s not to like (for Pfizer)?

Is that the Pfizer who are selling a dangerous experimental gene therapy drug with a more than one in a thousand chance of a clot related hospital admission within 28 days of a dose, and who were cited in an article by Oliver Wright a few years back about how big pharma influences NHS policy? Where are the msm articles on this today, it’s certainly continuing?

Hopeless
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

As if on cue, this morning’s breathless Hartley-Brewer radio programme carries news of some new study from Southampton and just published in The Lancet, which makes great claims for the efficacy of (yes) Pfizer and Moderna third doses against Delta and perhaps Moronic.

A quote from someone:-
“The good news is that whether you had AZ [AstraZeneca] or Pfizer as your first two doses and whether you have Pfizer or Moderna as your booster, there is a marked increase in both your neutralising antibody concentration – on average a more than 20-fold increase – and your T cell response – on average an approximately three-fold boost – against both the original Wuhan virus and against the Delta variant,”.

I do not wonder at “The Science”, but “The Synchronicity” is awesome.

Katabasis
4 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

Completely at odds with the data on actual infection levels – especially amongst the anointed.

Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
4 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

Several weeks ago I believe JHB claimed she was ‘done’ with boosters but has now mellowed to ‘not being happy’ about it. She will cave. I have admired her for the most part in at least asking questions that our useless MSM should have been doing but there is no doubt she is a vaccine champion if not a fan of coercion and force.

gone_loopy
gone_loopy
4 years ago

Yeah i can’t listen to her any more

Hopeless
4 years ago

She certainly seems to be backsliding. The problem that any medium now has is that OFCOM is a Government-appointed Star Chamber, with powers of censorship and suppression to rival anything on offer during the last War, and probably exceeds even that. It doesn’t take a lot of perspicacity to detect when media say things that are likely to have them being leaned on, or to notice the after-signs that they probably have.

TalkRadio used to be about the only one worth listening to, but nowadays I have to restrict myself to the only two trenchant presenters (Graham and O’Sullivan) who haven’t jumped ship or offered themselves up for our latter day Salem Witch Trials.

Cerulean
Cerulean
4 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

JHB tries to look both ways on the jab and gets herself in a pickle. This morning she contradicted a guest who quite rightly stated that they don’t prevent transmission.

Those foreign holidays trump everything.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
  • Inside Australia’s Covid internment camp” – Hayley Hodgson, 26, moved to Darwin from Melbourne to escape the never-ending lockdowns – only to find herself locked up in a Covid Internment Camp without even having the virus. Here, she talks to UnHerd about her experience.

What is happening in Victoria and the Northern Territory are exactly the kind of developments that would be globally condemned by governments and the UN if they were happening is some Islamic backwater. There is no debate about it: Dan Andrews and Michael Gunner have committed horrendous crimes against humanity and must face trial and imprisonment.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

26? That’s the exact age of the Scottish rugby international who died last week!

I’ve no idea of course what what connection there is with the “vaccines”, or the 2 people at the PL matches who collapsed or the Wigan and Sheffield United players who collapsed, or the Sheriff Tiraspol player who collapsed against Madrid. Still, six incidents in nine days (that II know about) including one lethal is quite a lot. And by the way, is there a possible risk to the “unvaccinated” from spike protein shed by the “vaccinated”? I read something about this a bit back, but I don’t know how much of an issue it is.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The week the 3 football players collapsed, a 36-year-old semi-professional player from the west Midlands died suddenly in his sleep.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Who?

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

And death.

Baron_Jackfield
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

It used to be said in fun that “the problem with Australia isn’t so much that 50% of the population are descended from convicts it’s that the other 50% are descended from prison officers..”… Unfunnily, it would now appear that the “officer” cohort are firmly in charge!

I am Spartacas
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

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I am Spartacas
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

In the video when Hayley is questioning the rules with one of the officers in the camp – the officer acknowledges that the rules don’t make sense and that he is just following the rules ..

Where have we heard that before?

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Username1
4 years ago

The government has ordered 114 million Omnicron “jabs” is this the variant no one knew about a week ago??!

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

Yep. Dozy me. Missed that.

Username1
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

114M*£15 per injection is £1.71 billion, plus the cost of buying the drugs, £3bn? And the best part? They are not free! You’ll be paying for it through higher taxes, plus it will be on borrowed money so stick the interest charge on top. Why younger people are not up in arms about this is a tragedy because they will have a much lower standard of living for life – for something they didn’t need.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

I think the collapse our monetary system is imminent and certainly before the end of 2022. Then we have Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) and combined with the vax passes we are a planet of slaves.

It’s coming.

Hopeless
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Certainly screwed my modest income streams. Looking through my bookshelves for something to read, my eye fell upon “Of Human Bondage”, by Somerset Maugham. Just right for the Zeitgeist.

Hopeless
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

I think that the cost to them has passed people, both old and young, by. The whole thing is portrayed as something good and philanthropic, given to a grateful populace by a wise and caring Government, assisted by the angelic NHS, with “money no object” to succour and protect them, and in the current hysterical atmosphere, has been swallowed hook, line and sinker.

I am Spartacas
4 years ago

Austria’s ex-Chancellor Sebastian Kurz announced he is stepping back from politics. His successor, Alexander Schallenberg, has also announced his resignation.

In his statement, he said he was withdrawing from politics to focus on his family. He also pushed back against criticism and allegations of corruption. “As chancellor, you have so many decisions that you have to make every day, that you know early on that you will also make wrong decisions,” he said. “You’re always under observation. You also constantly have the feeling that you’re being hunted,” Kurz added.

Now he knows how the unvaccinated must feel in Austria.

Incredible these people – absolutely incredible.

https://www.dw.com/en/austrian-chancellor-resigns-after-sebastian-kurz-withdraws-from-politics/a-59993547

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Stooges, note how they hit & run, it’s no accident, its by design so there are no comebacks, one wonders about Hannocks timely demise, ‘Midazolam’!

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Very true.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

He still deserves a day in court before his necessary punishment.

“Fire at will.”

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Yeah.. while he’s in the dock..

Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Kurz wasn’t fully onboard with the Agenda – which is why he was stabbed in the back over a relatively minor scandal.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  Londo Mollari

And he is a WEF graduate too – one of their “Young Global Leader” graduates. Probably being made an example of.

Mark
4 years ago

Carlson: “Jones is often mocked for his flamboyance, but the truth is he has been a far better guide to reality in recent years – in other words a far better journalist – than say NBC News National Security Correspondent Ken Dilanian, or Margaret Brennan of CBS. Alex Jones never bought the Russia hoax. Not for a second. And if Jones sat down with Tony Fauci he would ask him real questions, just as journalists are supposed to do. He wouldn’t just slobber all over him. But Alex Jones makes fun of Joe Biden, so the January 6th committee is threatening him with prison.” Carlson is only slightly tongue in cheek here. He knows that Jones is famous for some quite “way out” and provocative conspiracy theorising, and so this kind of assertion seems absurd. But the simple fact is that nothing Jones has ever argued for was more untrue than the 100% false Russia hoax, or the covid lies, and those have been far more harmful and far more constantly pushed by the mainstream “journalists” Carlson is taking aim at here. So the overall truth is exactly as Carlson has it – Jones is the better (perhaps “less bad”… Read more »

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

such a pity I can only uptick once!

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

“Will we ever learn to ‘live with the virus’?” The fact Lionel Shiver supported the democrats discredits anything Lionel Shiver writes, for me. “Too many people have a vested interest in this permanent Covid emergency” Government is to big, the layers of bureaucracy & technocracy both in official government departments & “NGO’s” is sapping the life from this country & its people, it is communism lite. “Court ruling in favour of Meghan, Duchess of Sussex condemned by chorus of sceptics” The royals should have total anonymity, not a single word should be printed about them in the press. We can only hope. All these stories can be summarized in 3 words, natural immunity & communism. The best vaccine against covid is infection from SARS-CoV-2. & All this government overreach is simply the resurgence of communism, to stay free requires eternal vigilance against socialism. ….there can be no doubt that Socialism is inseparably interwoven with Totalitarianism and the abject worship of the State. …liberty, in all its forms is challenged by the fundamental conceptions of Socialism. …there is to be one State to which all are to be obedient in every act of their lives. This State is to be the arch-employer,… Read more »

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Churchill was also correct about Rent-seeking, you’ll hate his speech on the original Monopoly, but in it he’s just re-iterating classic Capitalists like Adam Smith and David Ricardo who did so much to create civilisation.

Paul_Somerset
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

 Socialism is, in its essence, an attack upon the right of the ordinary man or woman to breathe freely without having a harsh, clumsy tyrannical hand clapped across their mouths and nostrils.  

Astonishing foresight.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“The Moral Maze”? That’s the programme which once featured Charles Moore asking the dreadful Ann Furedi if she thought a mother who suddenly decides she can’t stand the sight of her new born baby should be allowed to have it “terminated”. She said yes. Charles later wrote that if it had been a court case, he would have replied “I rest my case”.

Anyhow, it’s a long time since there was freedom of speech at the BBC, and they’ve been pushing their preferred political agenda since at least the 1960’s.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Television was invented to be a government propaganda tool, before that radio & before that the press, & now it’s the internet, the internet had to be unregulated for the masses to willingly adopt it, now they have & are addicted, the regulation begins in earnest to turn it into the establishment’s latest greatest propaganda mechanism.

Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

The printing press was subversive of the old social order. Pamphleteering played a huge role in the Reformation and both the English and American revolutions.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Didn’t Author Eric Blair work for the BBC in room 101. What name did he write under?

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Just say CO2 is plant-food not pollution and the SCBBC (so-called British) will cut you off.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Castorp

Twitter re-iterated it’s stance against medical freedom and informed consent.

J4mes
4 years ago

Just watched the most cringe-inducing debate in quite some time – and that includes the clocked-up hideous displays by shit-suckers like Nick Ferrari demanding a crack-down on people who don’t want to be injected by the death-shot. Peter Hitchens has crawled out of his cave since his grand capitulation of opposing covid authoritarianism to jumping the queue and getting jabbed at the very first opportunity. Making an appearance on GB News to argue that the BBC is now a present danger to freedom of speech (which should have been a fantastic discussion) was utterly mired by Hitchins’ insatiable desire to be centre stage with his over-rated bloated ego. The entire discussion revolved around apologising to Hitchens for not letting him gobble on without interruption (after he interrupted the other guy to start his pontification). I used to respect Hitchens to some extent. He always seems to call a spade a spade, unlike most others in mainstream media. His views should have crippled to the BBC tonight – I was expecting fireworks of brilliant criticism and finality to the BBC machine… but no, it had to all be about Peter and his ego. I think the problem Hitchens faces, and he… Read more »

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Yes, but what did Peter actually say?

  • Climate scare
  • Life issues
  • Covid scares (plus “vaccines” etc.).
  • (Neo) Darwinism
  • The EU
  • “Woke” dogma
  • Smoking
  • Psychological disorders
  • Trump
  • “Trans” issues.
  • Islam
  • Christianity

Just some of the things the BBC are biased about.

Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

I haven’t watched the episode you reference and mainly because ‘heros’ like PHitchens have so capitulated and let us down. He HAS to know that the vaccine is the gateway to a China loss of freedom and democracy. He is not edgy anymore, he is so mainstream. Why? They got his sweet meats in a grinder?

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

I used to respect Hitchens to some extent.

I’ve never respected the man, much of your description of him is frankly how I’ve always felt about him.

I’m even suspicious, as any good sceptic should be of his early opposition to the covid plandemic, I can’t be sure of his role, but he caved far too easily to the solution (“vaccine”).

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

anyone who can believe in marxism is a dangerous narcissist.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Well it’s natural to be suspicious in these strange and terrible times, but my reading of his capitulation was simply that he was fed up with fighting yet another in a very long line (for him) of losing battles. He’s been warning of things for years that have come true, and got very little credit or support for it. He’s only human. I was very disappointed in him as he’s a fearless spokesman, and I hope he realises he made a mistake.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

I tend to agree with the others who have defended Hitchens here (Hugh and Julian), and I haven’t seen the debate in question. But Hitchens certainly does have a tendency to be hypersensitive to interruption and to getting his pov across, which I put down to years of experience at being invited onto msm shows in order to be talked over by establishment apologists and representatives, with the active connivance of the presenters. Having listened to many of Hitchens’ Monday morning interviews by Mike Graham, I recall that he rightly stood up to Graham’s interruptions early on, and Graham has been excellent ever since, to the point where imo Hitchens has been taking advantage of it somewhat, and the boot is rather on the other foot. Credit to Graham for tolerating it, imo, because in fairness Graham gets plenty of time to speak through the morning and Hitchens is only on for a limited time. But it’s worth recalling just how radically iconoclastic and effective Hitchens’ early appearances on Talk Radio were, when he was almost a lone voice resisting the origins of what we are seeing come to full ugly fruition around us. His views then might seem tame… Read more »

Andrea Salford
4 years ago

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Personally i couldn’t give a fig for any ‘Dillon’ that wants to snort whatever but I draw the line at the lying corrupt b’stards telling me how to live.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

“You can have a Christmas party but get tested and don’t kiss under the mistletoe”. They really are taking the biscuit now. And still no exit plan.

Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Hugh, you’re a brave man for reading the detail. I salute you. Should any gorgeous young buck want to kiss me under the mistletoe (I doubt it but my drug of choice is Hopium) then I can genuinely report that I did not get the memo…. snog away.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

They were talking about it on GB News. The narrative gets more bizarre by the day…

Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Hmmmm GB News… hmmm. My jury is still out.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

People say that Neil Oliver is the only one who says anything against the “vaccines” (and that he doesn’t say much). I say that’s still one more than most major media outlets even if true. Surely GB News has got to be a step in the right direction? At any rate, it offers a genuine alternative in the face of the numerous biases of the BBC and others.
Full declaration, I’ve been keen on Steyn and Farage for a long time, and at least they are calling out the creeping “vax” apartheid.

Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

True Neil Oliver (with clipped nails and filed teeth) is doing a great job of holding a candle to the nonsense. But I guess I’m so far down the line of knowing now that these teetering ‘blah blah blahs’ are frustrating. I think I’ve lost my tolerance/patience for the people, sheople whatever to catch up with us from 18 months ago. Which tbh makes me appreciate the patience of the people waiting for us to wake up from over 18 years ago.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

Bottle / Glass

Glass / Bottle.

As the legendary Tommy Cooper would have put it.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Mark Steyn has been sound forever.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrea Salford

It’s increased in my estimation since its inception, mostly because of Neil Oliver, at first I was horrified by its lead anchor, the ultra liberal Andrew Neil, I was certainly glad to see his demise. That said, I don’t really watch it, i’m not a fan of the gay aussie either.

Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Yes it does seem to be going in the right direction and is a useful place to point anyone (I’ve had a few) showing minor scepticism but not yet ready for the full on truth.

OliveTrees
4 years ago

Just read this over on ZeroHedge. It made me laugh. Thought I’d share:

Two mice walk into a bar. One says to the other, “Have you been vaccinated?” The other one says, “Nope, they’re still testing it on humans!”

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

The whole shambles reminds me of the scene in one of the Homeward Bound (I think) films where the man trying to catch a dog for use in scientific experiments says “I’m going to light you up like a Christmas tree”.

(I suppose they wouldn’t be allowed to mention a “Christmas” tree these days)…

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

There was a cartoon of that doing the rounds a few months ago!

baboon
4 years ago

Not a drill:

https://youtu.be/qFFEI60SThU

“The U.N. Counter Terrorism Executive Directorate (CTED) is now responsible for taking entire privately hosted websites offline, as they seek to take total control of the flow of information and establish their “Great Narrative.” CTED notifies domain registrars of “extremist” sites — i.e., those that promote narratives they don’t approve of — and the sites can no longer be found. This reflects a new level of internet censorship, but it is not just publishers who are in the crosshairs…it is all of us.”

I hope you are paying attention Toby.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  baboon

Like I said earlier here digital era tech was just another psyop, an establishment nudge to encourage the unwashed to freely adopt & become addicted to the establishment’s greatest yet surveillance/propaganda tools. The internet is lost, I’ve been expecting its censorship & regulation for several years.

Throw your smart phone away.

Andrea Salford
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

True true true. But what they are trying to prevent – dialogue, discourse, dissent etc pre dates the Internet, iPhones and digital era etc and therefore will never be crushed. We came here because we knew something was wrong and sought like minded people (for which I will always be grateful to Toby) but whether or not anyone agreed, in each and everyone of us was an innate belief in the the wrongness of this and a fight for the truth and freedom, bodily autonomy, honesty and truth.

Londo Mollari
4 years ago
Reply to  baboon

The dark web has a role to play here, just like hand written Samizdats in the old USSR.

Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  baboon

Can you run a website from an IP? Humans like words computers prefer numbers…

Still I guess they will ban your IP eventually.

Katabasis
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

That will be when they filter the boot boy work down to individual ISPs to cancel services. And then – eventually – individuals will be banned from signing up to ISP services directly so they can’t even switch.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

More of the same manufacturing of consent for the totalitarian online harms bill from the daily fail.

TikTok yobs film themselves harassing female police officers in ‘deeply disrespectful’ new trend
Each & every day they plant another nudge in the headlines. Note the support in the comments section. Sorry ladies, but we’ve been told for decades how women are equal (& I really believe that, i do, to my wife’s dismay) but if you’re equal you can look after yourselves you don’t need pity or sympathy or special protection, appealing to my male chivalry is sexist 😉

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Yes chivalry worked 2 ways, it wasn’t just an expectation on male behaviour.

Jo
Jo
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Remember, though, how the police picked on women in the protests – I can’t see much difference here. Just bullying cowardly behaviour. Why didn’t they ask them about their ethical standpoint and moral compass? Much more relevant. Watch as a society as we sink collectively into the gutter.

Paul B
4 years ago

A summary of todays headlines could easily be “yes (nutter/covidiot/MP/zealot/”scientist”) we told you that 18 months ago”.

Sheesh, strap in for a long winter guys.

Dr Y
Dr Y
4 years ago

I feel the new recognition of the harms of the AZ jab are nothing more than a nudge in itself.

As far as I can tell, all boosters are now Pfizer and moderna. By focussing on the rare (but significant) harms of AZ, surely it’s just a way of pushing people towards acceptance of the “better” mRNA jabs?

Dr Y
Dr Y
4 years ago
Reply to  Dr Y

Oh and in case it isn’t obvious… I don’t think mRNA is “safe”. It certainly isn’t effective.
I am unjabbed and potentially about to be sacked for this depending on legislation re NHS workers.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Dr Y

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/06/210611174037.htm

It’s not safe at all

Cells contain machinery that duplicates DNA into a new set that goes into a newly formed cell. That same class of machines, called polymerases, also build RNA messages, which are like notes copied from the central DNA repository of recipes, so they can be read more efficiently into proteins. But polymerases were thought to only work in one direction DNA into DNA or RNA. This prevents RNA messages from being rewritten back into the master recipe book of genomic DNA. Now, Thomas Jefferson University researchers provide evidence that RNA segments can be written back into DNA via a polymerase called theta, which could have wide implications affecting many fields of biology.

Katabasis
4 years ago
Reply to  Dr Y

That’s a very good point.

Clubkauri
Clubkauri
4 years ago

https://voicesforfreedom.org.nz is coming up with a 403 error.
Rumour in NZ is that the gov has forced it offline. Haven’t looked to see where it’s hosted yet.
Can any poms still access it?

refusenick
4 years ago
Reply to  Clubkauri

Nope

Katabasis
4 years ago
Reply to  Clubkauri

Inaccessible for me.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

The “problem” to me is the globalists create untaxed trade between nations, but massively tax trade between people in nations. This just exports jobs and transfers wealth to these job exporters.

A lot of these problems root cause is this.

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Anglo American wants to implement a global one, including for UK staff. If that isn’t thrown out in court, the rule of law is finished.

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

This one’s for the Phantom Downvoter.

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RickH
4 years ago

 A Deal for 114 million jabs from Pfizer and Moderna will futureproof the whole country against coronavirus beyond the winter, says Sajid Javid.”

Isn’t this pre-promising and pre-purchase a bit familiar.

“Well the last load of shite didn’t work, so let’s do it again”.

Something in the back of my mind about the definition of insanity ….?

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Moderna’s idea of future proofing is just increasing the dosage further.
It’s already making the zombies produce 3x more spike protein than Pfizer, to no effect.
Einstein’s definition of insanity comes to mind.
For the seller and the buyer.
If we presume good intentions.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Watching a tv series called ‘Dopesick’ about the opioid crisis. One of the pharma’s ruses was to define any pain following addiction as ‘breakthrough pain’ and advise physicians to ‘increase the dose’. The sad part for the US was that so many doctors were prepared to be incurious about the sales reps’ spiels and brochures.
Now, they’re incurious about the vaccines (but they’re a ‘nice little earner’).

JayBee
4 years ago

https://brownstone.org/articles/is-youtube-now-presuming-to-be-in-charge-of-science/
JT on YouTube’S soon to be verboten terms.
Good read in conjunction with the Nudge article ATL.
Germany has its very own Fauci, Dr. Wielder, again forbidding himself ANY criticism, see reitschuster today.

isobar
4 years ago

I know that polls aren’t everything, but there is an interesting graphic in this article which shows that the majority of Brits are against the new rules.

‘Keep calm and carry on with your Christmas plans’: Oliver Dowden attempts to end confusion over festive advice – but furious hospitality firms say ‘damage is already done’ after days of mixed messages spark wave of cancellations

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10270831/Oliver-Dowden-attempts-end-confusion-festive-advice.html

I am Spartacas
4 years ago

Inside Australia’s Covid internment camp” – Hayley Hodgson, 26, moved to Darwin from Melbourne to escape the never-ending lockdowns – only to find herself locked up in a Covid Internment Camp without even having the virus. Here, she talks to UnHerd about her experience.

Worlds largest prison viewed from space …

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RickH
4 years ago

Britain has become the new Sweden as other governments race to implement tough policies, writes Fraser Nelson in the Telegraph.”

Complacency.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Yep – from Bozo’s No 2 fan (TY of course wins)!

John Dee
4 years ago

So, Javid’s buying Pfizer and Moderna jabs, not Oxford/Astra Zeneca?
Nothing to do with their higher selling prices meaning more money to spread around the Great and Good, I don’t suppose?
Or, is the AZ product not as good as the government was hyping it not that long ago? I suppose we little people will never know the truth.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

I remember reading some time ago (possibly here) that because the AZ vaccine uses chimp adenovirus as its route into the body, and the vaccine relies on this being novel to the person being injected, that an AZ “booster” would not work. Certainly the woman in charge of the Oxford/AZ product played down the need for universal boosters.

Of course we know that a Pfizer “booster” based on the original Wuhan strain of the virus won’t work either against Delta or anything beyond, but perhaps Pfizer are less bothered about whether their products actually work.

Amari
Amari
4 years ago

It’s the GATESTONE Institute, not “Gladstone”

John
4 years ago

Instead of omicron it should be called omni-con

Mark
4 years ago

BHP union members WIN fight against vaccine mandates – Rebel News

Some good news (reported here earlier by GregoryNo6), and with a comedic twist, as the mainstream pro-totalitarian unions shamelessly try – and fail – to take credit for the win.

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Thanks for that, Mark. I should have known that taking a story from the ABC at face value was risky!
Congratulations to the RED Unions.

HelzBelz
4 years ago

More idiocy from husband today: What is happening in Australia (quarantine camps) is justified because they have a low number of cases to preserve Mandating injections are OK because the virus is having such a catastrophic effect on economies (this is an extension of the same argument he used for preventing the unclean from travelling) He has no answers to why any of this is justified for a virus from which the majority of us will recover, that the economic consequences are nothing to do with the virus but are entirely political. As Brian Gerrish would say, a perfect example of someone who has been re-framed, re-programmed and completely unable to think for himself. Very depressed today – where I live in middle class suburbia, the relatively well off are all on the community FB page asking where they can get their boosters and isn’t it great that they’re so easy to get hold of. A work colleague posted up on FB some copy paste thing that’s going round about how he doesn’t know what is in the injections but that doesn’t matter, we should all take them to get back to normal. They just don’t get it. How can… Read more »

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

Your other half is either one of the vulnerable (ie soft-headed) 30% or so, or of the generally compliant 50% or so who go along:

Desmet: “The most important thing in this situation – you have to know that there are always three groups in mass formation – a group who is really into the process of mass formation, who is really hypnotised – about 30% – then a group who is not hypnotised but who goes along with the narrative….and then there is a third group who tries to speak out – usually about 20% of the population. And, you know, actually the most important advice that I can give in this situation is that this group has to continue to speak out!”

Foreign Agents #10 – Covid and Mass Hypnosis w/Dr. Mattias Desmet

(He’s not talking about actual active hypnosis, but rather about a process similar to hypnosis whereby a group of people find meaning in an obsessive focus on a particular issue as a collective cause. In 1930s Germany it was nationalism and jews etc, today it is covid obsession and zealotry.)

HelzBelz
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I think there is an ‘in between’ category – Dr Ros Jones alluded to this on a Talk Radio interview with Kevin O’Sullivan recently. It sits somewhere between the hypnotised and the going along to get along as per Desmet. I’m referring to the comfortable, compliant middle classes that are making a virtue out of ‘doing the right thing’ i.e. following all the rules, muzzling up and getting all your injections often and for ever more, if that’s what it takes. They are not hypnotised by fear of the virus but genuinely believe that they are making the right decisions for themselves and for the good of society. That they are the good people and that everyone who disagrees is a bad person, making the wrong choices – even though these ‘righteous’ don’t actually believe the choices of ‘the others’ are particularly harmful to anyone. They so fully believe in their own righteousness that they can’t ever imagine that they would be on the wrong side of public opinion or the law and being rounded up / quarantined / put on the trains themselves. Husband used to be an individualist, but over the last 2 years has fully signed up… Read more »

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

Yes I know lots of people in that “in between” category, and some who are doing it because they think they are making the right choices but respect my decisions to not go along with it.

HelzBelz
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I speak out all of the time – but nobody listens any more. They just change the subject or in the case of husband, refuse to speak.

Either they can’t handle the truth or my communication style / skill is a bit shit!

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

Yup, refusal to engage, infuriating.

Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
4 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

No one ever really listened in my experience as most people very quickly became entrenched in a particular way of thinking. A few (and I mean a few) eventually realised that Covid wasn’t going to kill us all wholesale as we were told it would but even most of them cling to the precautioanry princlple.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  HelzBelz

You articulate the mindset of Brits well. This presentation from Marc Malone has some really good information about how to overcome this. These people have been initiated in to a cult. Marc explains the mechanics which makes this happen in the first place, and then about how to reverse the process. In the end, part of the solution is that we have a nice comfortable, welcoming, positive environment for them to defect to as they come away from the delusion of the cult, but there is plenty more than this to put into place. One thing I have been thinking is how Stand in the Park is a great idea – but once a week at ten am on a Sunday morning is way short of what is required here. We need to step up the meetings and the organisation BIG TIME. We still have some rights. We can still approach people and give them the tools to unlock the truth and lift the curtain. We are not doing anywhere near enough REAL LIFE 3D activity to overcome this. My suggestion is to change the time of Stand in the Park to six pm every night and at weekends –… Read more »