News Round-Up
- “Will school Scrooges put paid to children’s Nativity dreams?” – The pursuit of Zero Covid in schools is out of control – children deserve some fun and magic this Christmas, writes Allison Pearson in the Telegraph.
- “Patients to travel for NHS treatment” – Patients facing long waits for treatment will be moved around the country to spare beds and routine follow-up appointments will be scrapped, under NHS plans to deal with the post-pandemic backlog, reports the Times.
- “ Cases ‘flat’ until Christmas – but expert says ‘it will get worse again’ in New Year” – Although the U.K. is fairing better than many European neighbours in terms of rising Covid cases, Professor Spector warns there is “no room for complacency or some of the smugness I’ve heard from some politicians”.
- “Nicola Sturgeon says pubs will not have to join Covid passport scheme” – She confirmed to Holyrood that the Covid certification programme will stay as it is, having previously suggested it could be widened from December 6th to address increasing Covid rates.
- “I love my job, but I won’t be jabbed ” – The anonymous account of a care worker, published on Laura Dodsworth’s Substack account.
- “Why I’m not selfish for refusing to wear a mask” – Mixed messaging over face masks and their effectiveness is causing all kinds of problems – and we cannot live in a two-tier world, writes Kate Mulvey in the Telegraph.
- “The Left’s Covid failure” – Amplifying the crisis is no way to rebuild trust, writes Toby Green and Thomas Fazi in UnHerd.
- “Covid vaccine that creates T-cells ‘gives better immune response than current jabs’” – The CoVac-1 jab, developed and made by academics at the University of Tubingen in Germany, has strong phase one trial results, reports the Telegraph.
- “If forced vaccination doesn’t work, then what?” – “By now it is easy to see how societies fall into the trap of dictatorship,” writes Frederick Edward in TCW Defending Freedom.
- “Most in critical care unvaccinated? – No according to data” – When looking at data from NHS England, a Guardian headline suggesting most in critical care are unvaccinated is not borne out by the facts, reports Stats Jamie.
- “E.U. Covid passes set to expire without booster vaccinations” – The E.U. is poised to update Covid passes with booster vaccine information including an ‘expiry date’ on the present ‘Green’ status, which is based on two doses, reports the Times.
- “What explains Germany’s vaccine scepticism?” – “By the end of winter, Germans will be ‘vaccinated, recovered or dead’, according to the country’s Health Minister Jens Spahn. Yet as Germany battles another wave of Covid outbreaks with renewed restrictions, the outgoing Merkel administration is failing to inspire public confidence in the central Government,” writes Katja Hoyer in the Spectator.
- “Mask up, even in your own house, city orders” – Santa Cruz, California has enacted a mask mandate that controversially requires face coverings in private homes, regardless of vaccination status, reports RT.
- “Why are Covid cases in India decreasing, despite the low double vaccination rate?” – The festive season in India did not lead to any surges and the prediction of a third wave during October-November did not turn out to be right, reports the Conversation.
- “Once a prime minister’s authority goes, the end can be swift and brutal” – Boris Johnson’s difficulty is not his many endearing eccentricities, it’s the litany of broken promises, writes Philip Johnston in the Telegraph.
- “Kyle Rittenhouse was not acquitted for being white” – Americans of all races have benefitted from the right to self-defence, writes Kevin Yuill in Spiked.
- “J.K. Rowling: the making of a modern folk devil” – The never-ending rage against Rowling speaks to the hysteria of our times, writes Tom Slater in Spiked.
- “The toxic ‘trans actor’ debate is ruining our culture – and lives” – An actor ‘cancelled’ over a trans role has revealed the devastating impact it had on his health. Where will this idiotic puritanism end, asks Ella Whelan in the Telegraph.
- “YouTube policy: All criticism is harassment” – “YouTube is acting against the best interests of its viewers by suppressing dislike information; it is removing a voice from its users and it is protecting big power and big money,” writes Alexander Adams in Bournbrook Magazine.
- “Austria is planning compulsory Covid vaccinations for all” – Political commentator Connor Tomlinson tells talkRADIO: “This is terrifying. People like me will be made second-class citizens if this policy comes to Britain.”
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The good news of course is that this only appears to be happening in areas of the world where they release data to the public on what is going on.
One place is Scotland: Investigation launched into abnormal spike in newborn baby deaths in Scotland.
Another place is Canada, but only thanks to a courageous whistleblower (otherwise, we wouldn’t know):
From a post by John Smith: 2 hr ago
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/latest-devastating-news-on-the-vaccine
Such news will get out through word of mouth. It is impossible to keep this disaster buried for much longer. Likewise the news of mounting deaths of the vaxxed will surface sooner rather than later. Government ministers and other officials who have instigated or supported this catastrophe need now to be very worried. These evil people should and may very well end up in prison for the rest of their lives.
I hope that you are right.
Ever since the start of lockdown each time a significant number of people are negatively affected by a new lockdown measure or inappropriate medical intervention I’ve though
“Yes, this is It! They’ve gone too far”
Each of those negatively affected people will have networks of family, old schoolfrends, cricket club members, new or past associates at University, colleagues, clients/customers, casual encounters in pubs, shops, public transport (including planes, sometimes), internet forums, YouTube and other video sharing platforms . . . the list goes on.
No doubt studies have been made but let’s hazard a guess at a multiplier effect of × 100 to share their digruntlement with.
But public attitudes never seems to change despite perhaps complaints arriving from many different directions simultaneously.
There will be a wider public who do not know the parent personally but will have seen them pregnant and wonder why they are not pushing a pram.
Very good point, many people do have a prurient interest in the progress of other people’s offspring.
Agreed. Also look at all the young, healthy sports people who are either suddenly dying or have a sudden onset of cardiac problems. Yes, not every single one will be vaxxed, but the marked increase this year when compared to previous years is one hell of a red flag to sweep under the carpet and ignore. But these babies….this can not be covered up in any way, shape or form. Absolutely disgusted to hear this and tragic beyond words!! 🙁
Quite a serious thing, killing children, isn’t it? If they knew what they were doing, they could be facing charges, I should think.
Quite. And they intend to jab kids directly, all the way down to 6 months of age, so god only knows what impact that will have. And still those all important ‘cases’ rise….The lunacy and denialism is off the charts!! 🙁
If they didn’t know they could still be charged, Reckless Endangerment they call it in the US, don’t know about here, manslaughter perhaps?
I doubt it. Maybe one or two get caught out on some specific issues. Even if the big fish were to face justice, this sorry episode in our history was made possible by all the little fish, and the sheep. The vast majority of people will go to their deaths thinking that the early 2020s saw a deadly disease sweep the world, which governments did their best to control, and thanks to the vaccine roll out eventually Covid faded away. From a civilizational point of view it would actually be healthy if adverse reactions to the vaccine reaches such a level that it simply cannot be ignored and there is a reaction from the public. Sucks for the people that get affected of course. Only yesterday I was told on a different blog (turbulenttimes), which doesn’t focus on Covid but when it does is ‘wrong side of centre’ (the host is not full blown Covidian; comments are about 30% sceptic, 40% covidian), that ‘didn’t I know, this virus killed 0.25% of Florida’s population’. I pointed out that roughly 1% of the population die every year from all causes – crickets. These people are entirely focussed on controlling deaths from Covid… Read more »
The news is getting out but TPTB smear it as lies and the idiots continue to believe the illogical and increasingly deranged narrative. Worryingly the more the narrative collapses, the more TPTB look like they will double down on their totalitarian dictats.
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Do you suppose the BBC realise that are still peddling such unreconstructed, reactionary, sexist, transphobic HATE or has that scene been censored from The Life Of Brian (if that’s where it comes from).
I think the term back in the day was Gender Bender, probably cooked up by The News Of The World.
Ah yes, back when they used to censor things. Oh wait…
Gb Resistance interviewed an undertaker beginning of the month who claimed he has seen far more babies in the morgue of his local hospital.
https://youtu.be/AHJytwL7dQk
Mike Yeadon was there?
I did find this paragraph rather peculiar: Control and warning limits are designed to flag up to public health teams when neonatal, stillbirth or other infant deaths are occurring at unexpectedly high or low levels which may not be due to chance.
“Warning! Baby deaths are too low and not within our “normal” parameters. Must increase baby deaths to within acceptable limits.” Because not enough dying babies is somehow a *bad* thing and worth flagging up???? Feck………
There were worrying scenes at the Madejski Stadium after Sheffield United midfielder John Fleck collapsed on the turf and needed urgent medical attention.
https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-united/sheffield-uniteds-john-fleck-leaves-stadium-in-ambulance-after-collapsing-during-match-against-reading-3468992
Without the vaccine he would have collapsed much earlier in the game, I expect we will be told tomorrow.
But you’ve already told us something tonight.
Christ another one! it’s becoming a full time job keeping track of all these collapsing athletes.
Combine that with suspended non vaxxed, won’t be much of a League left soon.
“The political correctness, the virtue signalling, in regard to wearing a mask, has successfully pitted person against person, group against group, while the criminals who have orchestrated yet another trillion dollar bail out, in addition to destroying our biosphere and ecosystems, are left unscathed. Their profits (from the theft of labour and the natural world) continue to soar in record numbers. As ruling class global power consolidates, we are subjected to dangerous discourse. A class war is averted, as factions grow between we the citizenry, who must unite against the ruling class. A ruling class hell-bent on destroying what traces of our humanity remain. Hell-bent on the capturing of, and the continued plunder of, an already devastated planet, that graciously sustains all life.”
https://www.theartofannihilation.com/mandatory-masks-in-the-age-of-climate-emergency-planetary-biodiversity-crisis/
Class based or not, the Government did set out to create conflict. When they introduced mandatory masks in shops they included many opt out clauses (for those who knew). This was for two reasons. 1. If someone collapsed seriously ill as the mask exacerbated their COPD the government could not be sued since they could say “Nobody said it was 100% compulsory, all you had to do was identify as ‘exempt’, we even allowed you to wear a lanyard to avoid the stress of discussing your situation.” I base this partly on observing that Security and management of supermarkets were already fully briefed about exemptions and their responsibilities under the law to respect it. That sort of Corporate Training does not happen overnight. 2 (back to your argument Kate). One of the the results of permitting easy exemption ( muttering the word into Securitys shell like was sufficient) was intended to create fighting in the supermarket aisles as disgruntled maskees shouted at barefaces ‘Wot about me kids! Wot sort of example you setting’ ”How come you’re so special you don’t have to wear a mask like everybody else?” “Look at me like that! You f*ckin’ want some y’ponce?” The ensuing… Read more »
Apologies for the duplication above, no idea why it happens now and then, certainly not copy’n’paste.
Sometimes I catch it and delete the duplication but the edit function only lasts 10 minutes after posting.
14 minutes. Unless it’s changed.
(Might be 15, come to think of it)
Very well observed, karenovirus.
Yes, they definitely set out to cause conflict – see also the fact that there were fines for not wearing a face nappy if you didn’t know what to say when challenged, but althogh the guidance said that companies shouldn’t ask for proof there were no penalties for those which did (which was loads of them).
It was all designed to encourage bullying of the unmuzzled. I’m sure it also wasn’t a coincidence that billboards close to large supermarkets had NHS/PHE branded posters early this year with maskivist bullying messages – e.g. one outside the local Tesco which had one of those horror-film sepia pictures of a muzzled face with the caption ‘every covered face makes a difference’. This completely untrue claim was most probably a creation of the nudge unit.
Israeli PM Naftali Bennett Sets Goal To Vaccinate 50% Of Children Aged 5-11 By End Of 2021Israeli PM Naftali Bennett on Sunday, 21 November, said that the nation’s goal is to vaccinate 50% of children aged between 5 and 11 by the end of December. According to the Times of Israel, Bennett had previously announced that the country will begin to vaccinate children starting Tuesday, 23 November. This came after the Jewish state gave approval for inoculating the younger children with Pfizer-BioNTech jabs.
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/rest-of-the-world-news/israel-pm-naftali-bennett-sets-goal-to-vaccinate-50-percent-of-children-aged-5-11-by-end-of-2021.html
Imagine giving 260 Israeli boys lifelong heart damage, in many cases fatal, FOR NO REASON AT ALL.
This is a crime against humanity. We’re all very clear on that and we will not forget.
The maniacal obsession of governments with jabbing citizens who are at no serious risk from Covid, with a “vaccine” that is demonstrably ineffective against Delta should have set alarm bells ringing that his was not about a virus or health ages ago. Well, not in the atrophied and dopey brains of the Covidians, of course! :-/
why not send everyone under 50 a packet of lemsip?
Be far cheaper and more effective.
Extract from a letter sent to the NZ Medical Council from a retired Doctor in Tauranga. “… the still birth rate has rocketed. Usually there are 114 still births per year for the entire country but in just two weeks Hastings alone had 9 still births in vaccinated mothers who were following your advice to get the vaccine. You are responsible for the death of those babies. You have blood on your hands. I suppose you are also in denial regarding the deaths of teenagers. We have 2 siblings dead after the vaxathon in Christchurch – a girl aged 15 and a boy aged 17. Plus a 17 year old boy in Northland and a 13 year old in the South Island – both dead the day after their vaccination -and a 14 year old boy in South Auckland who died 2 hours after his vaccination. Also the 17 year old girl whose death should have stopped the roll out but was instead blamed, prior to any autopsy report, on the pill – which she had been prescribed some time prior so therefore the GP would have checked for clotting risk factors at that point in time. I know a… Read more »
I hope God shows them no mercy. They should rot in hell for eternity.
Now It’s not my intention to disrespect your personal beliefs, but how the £&^* can you sit there & type that & believe in a “God” that can let this happen?
This religious stuff is making my blood boil, its the 2nd time tonight.
A fundamental misunderstanding of UK religion. As Margaret Thatcher once said, the most important part of Christianity for her was freedom of choice. Since we have this freedom of choice, it is us doing it to ourselves. If the God that the Christian majority in the UK believe in didn’t give us this freedom of choice, we would be slaves. And without the possibility of vice there would be no need of virtue, effectively a meaningless world. Some think the fact that life is not one long dopamine hit for everyone means there can be no God. I obviously disagree.
Yes, I once had the misfortune to have a friend who was a born again Christian, he tried to convert me, our friendship was even shorter than his newly found religion. We pay’s our money & makes our choices.
I find it difficult to differentiate between covidian worship & any other religion, all have no evidence of existence & rely on pure faith. Meanwhile, lots of people die from a man made substance & god looks the other way! My meaning, truth & inspiration comes from the natural world, not myth.
I find the differentiation some people try to draw between atheism and other religions somewhat disingenuous. Plenty of myths in the various atheist religions. Just think of the case of the belief in Piltdown Man by British scientists. I don’t expect to convert you, but I suggest it is better if we all have a fair view of those of other beliefs rather than a caricature of people’s position – which of course comes through full and frank exchange of views. Certainly I am interested to understand your position, though unless it proves anything it is unlikely to change my mind. Certainly I would not want to fall out with someone because of their beliefs, though I understand there are people (some in the Labour party?) who hate everyone who disagrees with them.
If I can see it, smell it, hear it or touch it, I believe in it.
I have no reason to prove someone else’s claims, that’s for them to do. But as a lifelong naturalist (I’m no spring chicken) i’ve seen enough of nature to understand how unforgiving & callous it is, if a god does exist & is responsible for this “nature” then I still don’t want anything to do with it.
Besides, it is well documented that religion was inspired by our ancestor’s worship of the natural world.
Atheism is not a religion – it is a lack of belief in any religion.
Whether Covidianism is a religion is a moot point – it doesn’t have a deity which is the central part of most religions, but it does display a lot of the characteristics of the more cultish type of religion – e.g. complete acceptance of the approved ‘truth’ and a complete refusal to consider any other viewpoint.
You say “no evidence”. What would you consider as evidence?
If particle and quantum physics had been revealed to an ancient prophet of God, would that be considered as evidence?
https://lettertotheatheists.com/ezekiels-crash-course/
If the core concepts of biology… the structure of DNA, the four DNA bases, the process of translation, and then transcription by ribosomes, biological concepts of selection and mutation, error correcting and genetic recombination… were all found in the story of one man, would that be considered as evidence?
https://lettertotheatheists.com/blueprint-for-life/
If not, I’m curious to know what your evidence threshold would actually be.
I feel unqualified to answer your question, if it’s answers you seek, I suggest you ask someone like Richard Dawkins.
Personally, he doesn’t do it for. My truth & evidence comes from what I can see & touch. In any case, it’s your/their claim, therefore it’s for you to prove. I can prove a tiger exists, your turn.
Oh yes, Richard Dawkins who talked about a smooth gradient from nought to one (light sensitive membranes) as if it was comparable to the gradient from one to two.
Same with me. The testimony of others, plus my own experiences.
PS there’s no proof, just cumulative probability. A philosopher told me…
If you have a problem with Dawkins, take it up with him, personally I find his ‘liberal’ ideology distasteful.
His hate mongering for me. Still, he’s not afraid to crticise Islam, at least he’s got the courage of his convictions.
The Christian God (together with the Islamic one and all the others) has allowed mankind to do far worse to itself than covid/lockdown/vaccines (thus far, since the fat lady still sings).
I use my freedom of choice to not believe while others opt to do so. Short of posters using this site to promote their religigious beliefs it is perfectly acceptable that they make oblique reference to them in furthering their point of view on the topic at hand.
If someone, mention no names hadn’t told me to be Christian, this whole thing wouldn’t have started, each to their own, but I’ve had enough of being told what to believe & do 😉
Someone told you to be Christian?
Best thing you can do is use your reason, and go on using it to your dying day.
I did.
https://staging.dailysceptic.org/2021/11/23/news-round-up-259/#comment-643021
Oh, nature.
That reminds me, you (or someone) mentioned “well documented”.
One of the biggest problems we have today is the conflation of science with history (or herstory). History constructs a narrative rather than testing things in a laboratory. So many of these stories (including natural history as I alluded to with my Piltdown reference) turn out to be wrong. It is important to distinguish science from history, politics, big pharma advertising campaigns etc.
I don’t see a connection with Piltdown man & evolution. You know what they say about history? It’s all bollocks. When I say nature, I mean the stuff of birds & bees. I’ve seen enough of the likes of Starkey et al & the nonsense written in the guardian etc to know their version of archaeology/history is mostly fiction or at least embellished pseudo-science. I believe what I can see with my own eyes, I take what others tell me with a pinch of salt, but I’m happy to be proved wrong, just do so with evidence, not faith.
Believe me, I’ve seen a lot of nonsense written in the Guardian!
The point about the Piltdown “man” is that British scientists (who admittedly may not have been atheists) were apparently more willing to believe this fraud than foreign scientists as they liked the idea of the earliest race of men in Europe originating in Britain. I tend to be a bit cautious of appeals to history, as we have seen, even with scientists, biases can creep in.
Meanwhile, with current affairs, if you are really interested in evidence, I was reading some interesting stuff about the ongoing miracle of the Guadaloupe image in Mexico. I think it is things like this that are quite important to Christian belief (although obviously there are many other things). And conversely Christians can on occasions be the biggest sceptics on reports of miracles unless and until they see sufficiently strong evidence (see for example The Song Of Bernadette book if you’re interested).
Ok , I’ll be the snitch.
It was Annie in response to A_s regretting the secular consumption obsessed way that Xmas is celebrated these days.
In fact I would say it is probably inevitable. People’s discourse is bound to be influenced by their own particular culture. Right now, I will welcome all support to end the lockdowns etc. be it conservatives, socialists, Christians, Jews, atheists or whatever else. Striking at the London demo a few months back to see Socialist Worker people marching along with pro-lifers.
Well here is Antifa Australia luminary Eggboy engaging in worthwhile discussion with Rebel News Reporter Avi Yemini during a Melbourne anti lockdown gathering.
That sort of single issue solidarity is a lot more convincing than S/W Lesbian Collective having a stall next to the Muslim Council of Britain at a Pride In The Park festival.
“to see Socialist Worker people marching along with pro-lifers“
This seems to be a relatively new development. The first time my wife went into our city centre to promote lockdown/vaccine scepticism, she was given a mouthful of foul-mouthed and personal abuse by the long established Socialist Worker professional protester there, for saying she disagreed with his paper’s campaign to “vaccinate the third world”. Apparently that made her a “f***ing fascist”.
As those in power push further and harder, the resistance broadens.
I hope they burn in hell for all eternity.
Mashallah
Be careful what you wish for.
Not my decision, it was Allahs.
Jacinda Kate Laurell Ardern (b.26 July 1980) is accused of crimes against humanity and must be tried for her crimes. Her cell therapy policies have murdered men, women, pregnant women, and children, including new-born babies and stillborn, and her lockdown policies have murdered thousands of people through denial of healthcare and mental health abuse.
“The Left’s Covid failure” – Amplifying the crisis is no way to rebuild trust, writes Toby Green and Thomas Fazi in UnHerd. An interesting discussion of the issue raised here a couple of days ago in Dr Sidley’s piece “Why is the Left So Enthusiastic About Covid Restrictions, Given that the People they Harm the Most are the Poor and Vulnerable? At least these lefties don’t either deny the simple reality under discussion, or resort to infantile escapism along the lines of “there’s no such thing as left and right anyway”, or “left and right are irrelevant and it’s “divisive” to talk about them”. That’s particularly absurd in response to a piece discussing the observable and observed reality that the left has largely (though not entirely) drawn up behind covid panic, whereas the right has been much more divided on the issue, and much more willing to oppose it in organised political groups, such as Republican state governments in the US, or “far right” parties in Australia, Germany, Austria and elsewhere. If you don’t like it, fine. But don’t just deny it. Think about it, try to work out how it happened, and work out how to strike at its roots.… Read more »
“That’s a source of our strength.”
Ahhhhh!
The guy at Bidens side looks admiringly at his boss until the moment he says
“that’s a source of our strength”.
He does not look convinced.
But there is no such thing as left and right. Or at least they can mean many different things. A “right winger” in Israel would be different from one in Saudi Arabia or Britain or the so-called United States (where apparently they would be anti-monarchist). “Centre right” people in Britain might consider they have nothing in common with the (apparently resurgent) far right in Austria.
In any case, the main division at the moment appears to be between those who wish to curb the influence of big business – and particularly big pharma – and those who collaborate.
And in any case, the response to individual policies is more important than the particular label one might give them. If someone will end lockdowns and vax apartheid that is perhaps more important at the moment than whether they are “left” or “right”.
“But there is no such thing as left and right. “ Odd then that people find it so easy to talk about them and broadly agree about whom they are talking about. “Or at least they can mean many different things.” This is a rather different point. For sure they can mean different things – there are several fairly consistent usages that are prevalent. The key is to try to apply one fairly consistently, and most disagreements occur when people are applying different usages and have not defined their terms. One good discussion of this in the US context was posted here some months back by Julian. Pretty sure we’ve discussed it before: Is the political philosophy of the left or of the right more compatible with the public good. As Scalia rightly pointed out at the outset: “if there was ever a topic that cried out for a definition of terms, it is this one“. Accordingly I have repeatedly done so here (though it’s unfortunately not practical to do so on every occasion the topic is raised). I usually assume the third of Scalia’s meanings, which imo is the original one and the only one with any real universality:… Read more »
I’m a Georgist so tend to annoy both left and right.
“Endearing eccentricities”
Please pass the barf bag.
“fun and magic”
So that’s what Christ Mass is about? No wonder we’re losing this war.
To be honest, Xmas has always been about tacky cheap decor, bloated bellies, tv repeats & disappointing gifts, for me, so I wouldn’t miss it.
Try becoming a Christian.
Imagine a clenched fist &……….Keep the sky fairys for yourself. My truth & inspiration comes from nature.
Ouch, harsh.
How can anyone believe in a God that allows these atrocities to happen? I personally find it highly offensive.
It’s the same mentality covidians have for vaccines & their attitude towards those that demand their right to think for themselves. It makes me an angry atheist.
How is it any of your business what someone else chooses to believe as long as it doesn’t impact on you?
The days when Christianity was in a position to threaten you or me are long gone.
Save your anger for those who would compell you to be vaccinated because they ‘believe’ that will make them safe.
My best mate supports a rubbish football team because he ‘believes’ in their legend. He is wrong but that doesn’t make me angry.
Spaghetti monsters as well. You want to look at that nature again. Some interesting stuff. Not by chance (in fact it couldn’t possibly be according to statisticians).
You make no sense, thankfully Alfred Russel Wallace et al do.
Ok, nature (and particularly life) could not have come about by chance. Amino acids combining to form protein by random chance? statistically impossible. And that’s just one stage of many that would have to happen for the world we see today to come about by random chance. Doesn’t prove, for example, a Christian world view on its own, but the point is that atheists have beliefs which, for them, must not be challenged. I understand that some atheists get very angry when their molecules to man by random chance belief is challenged (Brian Cox?). The random chance as explanation for everything that is a key plank of the atheist religion is effectively a religious belief, and there are many other examples of atheist beliefs. Believe 6 impossible things before breakfast? Probably we are all capable of it, and certainly some atheists are.
Don’t go there!
I’m not a devout atheist, it’s just a word from a dictionary to put my position in context. ‘I’m not a believer’ Call it what you like, but don’t play semantics with the fact your proof of Jesus Christ is as shaky as the foundations of virology.
You say it’s “statistically impossible” (interesting choice of words, but I won’t go there either) for life to randomly spontaneously exist. But your best answer is some imaginary omnipotent entity that is everywhere all the time that can see or touch?
I don’t spend my time before breakfast thinking of impossible things, just what I see in front of me, like the remarkable difference in similar forms of nature. If God is as clever as you imagine, he himself showed incredibly poor imagination.
To be clear, the main reason for Christians to believe in their beliefs (and Christians are very strong on reason) is miracles, both in their sacred text and through history, including in modern times. It is interesting that many atheists (certain towns in South Wales?) are happy to believe in “aliens” (intelligent extra-terrestrial life visiting Earth and the like) but reject modern day miracles (Smith Wigglesworth, Guadaloupe etc.) which often have far stronger evidence for them. Look, I understand you have your beliefs (or views or whatever) and of course you’re entitled to them. But you understand we have our reasons too for our beliefs, which we can make a strong case for from the evidence. At the end of the day though, we’re not going to solve what people have been arguing about for hundreds of years on an internet forum. And in any case, there’s a battle with the collaborators in this lockdown shambles to be fought.
I want to believe in sasquatch, sadly like god there’s only anecdotal evidence they ever existed, you keep your beliefs to yourself & i’m good with that. You tell me to become like you, I’ve got a problem with that.
Oh, you mean Annie? I think she was talking about Christmas.
In any case, surely everyone wants people to become like themselves. Certainly if someone asks “how can you believe…” etc. they are asking for an answer!
Oh, you mean Annie?
How else do you think this conversation started? Did you think I just suddenly thought i’ll attack religion?
You do you & i’ll do me, we’ll both be happy.
I meant that to Christians, Christmas means more than tinsel and tacky gifts. If you aren’t a Christian, you can’t know what Christmas really means, because Christmas is a Christian festival. If you want to hate Christmas because it means no more to you than tinsel and tacky gifts, that’s your choice. You can ignore the alternative, and much good may it do you. Bah, humbug.
And if you want to pile insults on somebody for being a Christian, go right ahead. After all, it isn’t as if being a sceptic meant respecting other people’s beliefs or points of view.
Islam teaches that the beauty and perfection found within nature cannot have been created randomly or by chance so that proves Allah must have done it.
Not sure how they got there because Allah revealed everything to Mohamed but ideas about natural selection did not emerge for several hundred years after those all encompassing revelations.
Oh yes, I read about Wallace. At the same time as he was posting a letter to amateur naturalist and philosopher Charles Darwin in 1858 (he of the poisonous ‘favoured races’ bunkum), quite a powerful affirmation of the miraculous (and comment on Charlie’s hypothesis) was occurring in France…
Guilt by association, is it? Or just religious hate towards the logical destruction of their faith. I don’t have heroes or gods I just study nature, no naturalist in his right mind dismisses Darwin’s work because of the typical values of his time, Christians hardly have an innocent anti-racists history!
Oh I don’t think Charlie himself was particularly malicious. Naive perhaps. But his cousin Galton had some dangerous views, and there were always likely to be consequences to Charlie’s philosophy. “Favoured races” are of course his own words. Interesting though, that the evidence that Darwin thought might turn up to support his theory has failed to materialise. Interesting also that cells are far more complicated than the simple structures imagined by Victorian amateurs.
I’ve never accustomed myself with Darwin’s family or personal values. But he’s right about favoured races, his theory of natural selection is robust, skin pigmentation has a cost benefit biological function. Intelligence also has an ecological function, survival of the fittest, those best evolved for their environment, intelligence is merely a mutation to out compete others, racism in itself is subjective emotive nonsense of civilization it has no merit in nature.
For me though, his ideas about natural selection don’t tell us anything that farmers who breed animals and vegetables didn’t know already.
Richard Dawkins who you mentioned was apparently unaware that “favoured races” was part of the title of his work speculating on the origins of species. But whatever his intentions, and whether he was right or wrong (unproven is a generous assessment for me), such ideas have reaped a bitter harvest. Galton, influenced by his cousin Darwin, was a pioneer of eugenics, which has done so much harm and is arguably a factor in the current shambles. I would argue that, whatever we may do with the information, and whatever we may conclude, it’s something we should be aware of, even if only as an example of unintended consequences.
Competition!
Where we’ve been, where we are & where we’re going & the notion of racism is ecological inter/intra specific competition. All this politicized “woke” cultural nonsense weakens us, it contradicts all that our own survival depends on
I agree, our dilemma now is about passing on our genes, at this moment in time our competitors (the psychopathic globalist elite) are best suited to the current environment they’ve created. Because the likes of you & I have been made impotent by societal considerations. They are using our very own civilized politeness against us, to benefit their own genes!
We can’t escape the force of natural process. We either get tougher & harder (or at least shun liberal ideology) or die. We can only do that by changing the political environment. One thing I suspect both of us, religion & nature share, which is their greatest weapon against us, is the traditional notion of family! Which they are trying their best to destroy.
The attacks of the past half century or so on family and culture (and particularly this latest one) have been an absolute disaster for the working class.
Hitler sent a fact finding mission to the USA to investigate their very active eugenics programs (early 1930s).
They concluded that the US programs were too extreme and would not be acceptable to the German Nation. The watered down version presented to Hitler proposed merely sterilising the physically or mentally infirm, rather than murdering them outright, as this would still achieve the objective of ‘purifying’ the German bloodline within a generation.
Euthanasia as applied to The Jews was, of course, thought of in an entirely different way by both the nazis and the German people.
Pub quiz time
Which was the first European country to make eugenics illegal?
Which was the last European country to abandon the practise?
Victorian Pioneers is more apt; they would only be ‘amateurs’ in the sense that they were wealthy enough not to require a salary.
as with gentlemen cricketers or archaeologists of the time.
The first time I came across slavery was as a 4 year old at Sunday School being told the parable of Pope Gregory the something attending the slave market in 7-8th century Rome, as you would.
After enquiring about some blond haired blue eyed children for sale he was told that they were Angles (as in Anglo-Saxons)
Oh no he says “Not Angles but Angels“.
This was supposed to demonstrate his holinesses holiness, I thought it made him sound like a dirty old man but race didn’t seem to come into it.
Least we found out the phantom down voter is a religious zealot,
Magi anyway.
Given this comment in yesterday’s news roundup comments:
” Recent research shows chronic inflammation markers shoot up post 2nd jab along with the risk of acute cardiac syndrome and the effect lasts for about 2.5 months.”
Would it be unreasonable to speculate that news of yet another sportsman collapsing (John Fleck, playing for Sheffield United last night) was connected to these “vaccines? I am barely surprised anymore when I hear about these collapses, and yet in the past, you might not get one in a whole year, unless I am imagining things. Someone posted that there have in fact been more of these incidents among sportsmen in the United Stated of America so perhaps I’m not imagining it. What is the truth of the matter?
Oh, and there have been incidents of spectators collapsing as well, haven’t there?
They’re just simple, harmless one-syllable jabs. They cause no harm at all to anyone and they’re 100% safe and effective. Go back to sleep.
Safe and effective safe and effective safe and effective zzzzzzzzz
According to some muppets on Twitter to paraphrase: if any ‘antivaxxers’ use this incident to disparage the vaccine then we are scum.
So unless you are antivax scum, Hugh, I suggest you chalk this one up as another unrelated coincidence and move on eh?
But in all seriousness anyone with half a brain foresaw Erikson being the tip of a terrifying iceberg, but let’s face it, this could be happening at 10x the rate and it still wouldn’t move the needle. There are none so blind as will not see and all that.
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I fear we’re passing the point of political or civilised solutions. I suspect only physical violence, en masse, will work now, and then expect to start hearing a lot about “domestic terrorists” from the illegitimate regime that runs Britain.
Which of course leads to speculation of what the last 20 years of policy has all been about! Join the dots & its an alarming picture of how 21st century neoliberalism is all about genetic suicide! Globalism, centrism, mass immigration, gay rights, trans rights, even women’s rights, destruction of family, corporatism blah blah blah…… The list all amounts to one goal, killing! Them killing us.
So grab your pitchfork…. I see Canada is disarming it’s subjects.
JUSTIN TRUDEAH IS COMMING FOR OUR GUNS RIGHT NOW!
The evidence is for after the revolution, so we can hang them in a civilized manner after sentencing.
Yeah, the state’s not overstepping the mark at all here. I think the state should also tell people how much to drink and smoke, how much red meat to eat and when, and when to go to the bathroom. All of this should be forced with brutal legislation and enforced with full state surveillance in every home. Go, land of the free!
I wonder how they will enforce this. Will anyone who closes the curtains be suspect?
Is this story for real? Sounds nuts.
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I find it odd the only people that have ever recovered from HIV/Aids are those that refused any treatment or therapy, a mystery?
There is an explanation for lockstep, the answer is to be found with big pharma.
The problem is no one is going to wake up in the morning & admit they were wrong, we have to take back control, not wait for them to give it back.
The lying corrupt pharmaceutical industry and their many proxies aren’t anyway.
Pharmaceutical contracts & neoliberalism causes the corruption.
I wonder, how much is it simply a profiteering racket and how much something else?
Anti-mandate Uprising in Guadeloupe .
This looks brutal, and if it escalates further, it could (with luck) end up being Macron’s Waterloo.
My sympathy & respect goes to all those heroic dissenters who have said no more. We can only hope the French repeal Article 66-1 of the Constitution of the French Republic & Macron gets what he rightly deserves.
Amen to that.
cheeky
It’s a long, long way to Waterloo, then!
His Place de la République will be closer, maybe?
He can receive the Marie-Antoinette treatment anywhere, as far as i’m concerned. But the point is that this is looking like a full-on insurrection in Guadeloupe, and it is reigniting the movement for independence. Politically, this would absolutely finish Macron (we can see why the French media are desperately downplaying the events there).
I wonder if he will declare war on the “rebels”? (Nothing about it on “Ceefax”, I just checked. They are quoting China’s World Health Organization though).
The only French language site i know that is giving more or less regular coverage to Guadeloupe is this one:
https://lemediaen442.fr/
Re: “I wonder if he will declare war on the “rebels”?”
The island has a long history of uprisings. The problem is that it is economically dependent on mainland France. The only way independence would work is if all French Antilles became independent simultaneiously and supported each other. If you’re interested, this Atlantic article goes into the history:
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/04/france-macron-guadeloupe-slavery-colonialism/557996/
Yes, “France ‘officially’ abolished slavery”.
That’s about it, I’m afraid. I wonder if Manual Chevron “takes the knee”… Now what was that about dying standing rather than living on our knees? Bad times.
I heard something a few days ago about him sending more police. Maybe that was it.
Best of luck to the people’s of Guadeloupe and Martinique.
Let’s share this as much as we can everybody.
Thanks.
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I’m sure I’ve seen you in The Conservative Woman ( hate that title! ) comments section as well….
Somebody hinted on here a few days back that Austria were no longer going ahead with mandating the jabs, but I’ve read nothing to the contrary. However, I’m still deeply doubtful it’ll happen anyway given the enormous amount of push-back there will be but also, come Feb, there will be even *more* data and real world evidence demonstrating the complete lack of efficacy ( as well as many more recorded harms by then ) of the jabs, ergo, how it’d be a total waste of time mandating them. Especially if they lock down the people they are happily scapegoating for the spread and rise in cases! Insane f*ckers!!
I’m pretty sure that a mandatory approach isn’t yet legal, due the ‘emergency authorisation/conditional approval’ status of the jabs. Perhaps Austria is expecting the EU Medical Agency to fully approve something, sometime, and allow the immunity clauses from liability to fall?
Shouldn’t they have to wait until at least 2023 when the medical trial date is set to finish?
It’s also extremely difficult if not impossible to do in practice.
What about tourism, business travel, foreigners, Austrians living abroad and continued testing options for them, unvaxxed choosing to go to prison (unvaxxed in a prison then is their nightmare) instead of paying, is it 1 fine only, or 1 every 6 months, or 1 at deliberate intervals etc.etc..
This is a nudge to make the unvaxxed Austrians panic.
Nothing else, for the time being.
Still a lousy thing to have hanging over you for at least the next three months though. Always there, gnawing away at the back of your mind. Torture.
8,000 spaces in the already overcrowded Austrian prison estate.
2 or is it 3 million unvaxxed.
Well that’s what I was thinking. So goon squads are going to go round 2 million households and pin everyone down to jab them, like something out of a lunatic asylum on steroids??? It’s fucking bluff and desperation. The naughty children, who do not do as they’re told, must be put on the naughty step for ‘time out’ and serve as an example to any other defiant dissidents! Utter wank!
Deaths among Children are 44% higher than the 5-year-average since they were offered the Covid-19 Vaccine according to ONS data
Correlation does not of course equal causation but there seems to be a mountain of coincidences forming in relation to the Covid-19 vaccines. Is this just another coincidence, or are these injections to blame?
https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/11/24/child-deaths-increasing-since-offered-covid-vaccine
Highly recommend Omar Khan’s Uncommon Wisdom blog: https://www.uncommonwisdom.online/
TY hasn’t included him in roundup recently. He doesn’t say much that we truth seekers don’t know already but his writing style is genius. Wise, articulate, funny and inspiring.
Anti-vaxxers invade London City Hall: Moment security guards remove Piers Corbyn and shrieking mob of science sceptics from Peoples’ Question Time event after audience member brands Covid a ‘hoax’ and ‘complete scam’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10237243/Anti-vaxxers-invade-London-City-Hall-Moment-security-guards-remove-Piers-Corbyn.html
Best rated reader’s comment on this article (347 upticks, 140 downticks at time of posting)
‘They are not science sceptics, they are sceptical about the way science is being used as a religion where we are expected to accept everything and question nothing.’
Unusually the pro freedom crowd could win a bit of support on the Mail Comments pages.
I expect it’s because they are all hard at work while the lockemdown mob are hiding at home from the Covid.
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/scottish-governments-vax-passport-sending-peoples-private-data-amazon-microsoft-report
Who would have thought…?!
While septic heads are full of head chaff, the police state is consolidating power: https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1463282056490852357
The real news about Liberty:
https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1463282056490852357 https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/43874/documents/1015