Does Boris’s Megalomania Conceal a Smidgen of Libertarian Sentiment?

We’re publishing a guest post today by David McGrogan, a professor at Northumbria Law School and Daily Sceptic regular. He is gradually coming round to the idea that beneath Boris’s megalomaniacal lust for power there is a smidgen of libertarian sentiment.

He didn’t know we were at war, and wouldn’t have cared if he had. But I have made my peace with Boris.

This time last year, we had just been “plunged” (I feel duty bound to use this word) into the second full-on national lockdown, and my view of the Government had reached its nadir. It seemed to be hypnotised by opinion poll results which its own messaging had created, victims of a grotesque feedback loop whereby the fears of the population fuelled ever more fear-inducing restrictions. Either that, or the Government had fallen under the sway of a small coterie of scientific advisors whose own groupthink had rendered them incapable of anything other than worst-case scenario planning. Worse, certain high-profile members of the Cabinet seemed to be positively enjoying themselves: the sparkle in their eyes as they appeared on our TV screens hinted at deep wells of authoritarianism lying just below the surface of their placid faces.

But I am now convinced that, although we are not Sweden (the Lionel Messi of public health responses to Covid), we are in a better place than almost any other society. Yes, depressingly, in Scotland and Wales vaccine passports have been introduced and mandatory face-covering is still in place indoors. But life in England is pretty much back to, if not the old normal, then something close to it. We can go to pubs, restaurants, theatres and sports stadiums as we used to. Most of us haven’t worn a mask in months. Kids are in school. Students are on campus. Places of worship are open. Shopping centres are brimming with pre-Christmas energy. Better, we’ve stopped obsessing over the figures – “case” numbers have finally begun to lose the sway they once had over the public mood.

No, things are not as readers of this website would wish it. But compare our situation to that in France or Italy, where vaccines are near-compulsory and mask-wearing entrenched. Or Australia – zero-Covid hell. Or New Zealand, which has merrily embraced becoming a “two-tier society”. Or Austria, which has threatened to lockdown the un-vaccinated, Latvia (back under full lockdown), or Japan and South Korea (where everybody wears a mask every moment of the day they are not in their own homes). Imagine living in the U.S., where a doddering tyrant of a President clings onto Covid authoritarianism as his last best hope to display leadership (although some states have defiantly lifted all restrictions).

By the world’s standards, we have actually muddled our way through the pandemic with our “old normal” relatively intact. And this should, after all, be the bar by which success is judged. Negotiating to a position of living with the pathogen with one’s society unscathed is what pandemic management is all about. We seem to have almost got there. Most countries still appear to be largely stuck in the mindset that dealing with a pandemic means eliminating the pathogen and abolishing death, and, as we now know, in that direction lies nothing but madness.

Thank God that’s not us. And, while you’re at it, it may be worth thanking Boris, albeit through gritted teeth. He has revealed himself to be a very cynical politician over the last two years, adept at manipulating and responding to public opinion. At every stage, he seems to have judged the public mood to be going one way and leapt aboard, flinging principle in the dustbin en route. But what has been revealed since restrictions were lifted in July is that his inner sentiments are in favour of old fashioned, Cavalier-ish English liberty, as he has always liked to imply. In the white heat of March 2020, or winter last year, with the media baying relentlessly for lockdown and the scientists putting out a relentless tsunami of bleak forecasts, he allowed his hand to be forced. But now there is some wiggle-room he is erring in the right direction: toward personal freedom. We ought to be fair to him and give him some credit for that; we all know that if Keir Starmer was in charge things would look very different indeed.

Robert Caro, probably the greatest political biographer of the last 100 years, likes to say that “power reveals”. Once somebody has attained a position to do what they would like to do and to impose their decisions on others, you finally get to see what they are really like. The period 2020-2021 has revealed Boris to be almost nihilistic in his desire to retain power – a chameleon of principle. But it has also shown that there is a foundation of libertarian sentiment somewhere in the depths of his psyche. If I were being very optimistic I might even push the point and suggest that, since it is our electoral system that resulted in him being PM, our society shares that sentiment – at least more than many other countries – too. I wouldn’t have suggested any such thing in April 2020. But stepping out of my front door into an England that feels free once more, I can say it now.

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SJR
SJR
4 years ago

Life does seem more normal, except my empoyer has still not opened our offices and I’m still working from home.

That may suit some people but I miss the office, my office mates, and I am much less productive. I like the added flexibility of being able to work from home occasionally, especially if I have to do overtime, but I need the office work environment to work effectively.

I think we can see how damaging mass home working has been for a lot of companies and services, especially government departments. The DVLA being a massive example.

bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  SJR

Life does seem more normal… Really? Kannst du schon sagen was es ist? Came across this graphic recently cbelow… and even though this chart defo has a US bias…as we’re all in this destructive LOCKSTEP removal of the OLD NORMAL with the other G7 reset nations… its pick where you think we are time wise along the sine wave of Build Back Better. I’d say in ze draconian deutsch voice of zer WEF overlord Herr Schwab ve zhould expekt zer cybor attack quite zhoon… nicht whar my fellow undesirables? Got some 24c gold bars stashed under the bed… and a small farm holding far from the madding crowd off the beaten and satellite tracked path? Good…. The journey we’ve been on fellow skeptiks isn’t one of bimbo blonde bumbling BoJo confusion. Think of it more as globalist sponsored coordinated psychic waterboarding. Shock, restrain… release – repeat. Shock, restrain… release – repeat. Shock, restrain… release – repeat. You get the drift? And each time we move up and down the line of for the greater good communal change…further and further away we go from ever remembering what was free and easy normal. Yes my dears you’re in an highly abusive personal… Read more »

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

I agree, unfortunately. Lets hope something comes up to halt this.

porgycorgy
porgycorgy
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Interesting graphic – always best to put a source for further study?

karenovirus
4 years ago

Good to hear a positive point of view but expect a hard time from readers of your article.
If we are relatively ‘free’ compared to some places it is out of happenstance and perhaps bozo playing Sturgeon and Drakeford back by not playing their game, at last.
I have no problem with politicians playing fast and loose with principles provided it achieves the desired result; bozo did not bring us to this position by liberal instincts, he doesn’t have any viz online harms act.

ChaunceyTinker
ChaunceyTinker
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Johnson is a self serving career politician as I tried to point out to people at the time of the leadership election. He only supported Brexit at the last minute when he saw an opportunity for his own personal advancement, and even then he asked other people what side he should be on.

mojo
mojo
4 years ago
Reply to  ChaunceyTinker

He followed his wife’s (Marina Wheeler, a strong Brexiteer) advice.

helenf
4 years ago

Sorry, but I’m a lot more cynical. I think Boris is just biding his time until COP26 is over. Then he’ll start tightening the screws again. The one thing he has proven himself to be is a liar, and I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him. I’d love to be proven wrong, but I think it’s a real mistake to let your guard down as far as this government is concerned.

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

I agree. Let the clowns get on with it in Glasgow, once they’ve all taken their private jets and 85 car cavalcades and gone home, Johnson will start wavering again…..and off we go again!

The delegates to COP26 don’t have to prove their vax status or use a covipass to go anywhere, I notice. All 25,000 of them.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

“Let the clowns get on with it in Glasgow”

Why let them? They shouldn’t have even been allowed into Scotland without 10 days quarantine. These people should be fined and put into prison for breaking Covid regulations … that was good enough for everybody else, yes?

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

But the local hired help do. And wear their muzzles.

karate56
karate56
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

I agree with you entirely and have no doubt that as soon as his climate bollocks is finished he’ll be back to implementing vaccine passports. In my mind, normal is seeing people going about their business without useless shit on their faces, not seeing irrational fear in people when unmasked people dare to come within a yard of them, not being threatened constantly to have an injection that does shite all and children not having to exist as if they are some kind of evil pathogen pool. I’m afraid the threat of loss of liberty is constantly all around us, you can simply feel it. Being unvaccinated I have a perpetual feeling that a news announcement is imminent, announcing that I can’t do the things free people have been at liberty to do for decades just because I wont be injected with an experimental form of a pack of Lockets. From a personal perspective, I irrationally look at case numbers and deaths each day because they’ve been weaponised to destroy freedom. With each rising statistic, however false it is, you absolutely know it is a tool to control you, whether this comes from Johnson himself or the health bodies that… Read more »

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  karate56

The Covid scam rumbles on and on and on. Is it not time for those who want it to stop to get properly organised? Yes. But then that would be “playing into their hands”.
So we are just somehow hoping ‘vaccine uptake’ is going to fizzle out… but what will happen to the rule that ‘the unvaccinated’ must quarantine for 10 days upon arrival to the UK? Anyone who doesn’t take the second, third, or fourth ‘vaccines’ will eventually be labelled as ‘unvaccinated’. What percentage of the UK population will be ‘unvaccinated’ by, say, November 2022?

20 months of this nonsense and, let’s face it, there’s no sign of it stopping. And little makes sense – what happened to ‘pingdemic’ – where did that disappear to?

karate56
karate56
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

By nature, most people are supine and want all this to go away. It wont. Its a mixture of fear, stupidity and submission for everything to be back to the old status quo.
All I can input is my own form of defiance – when people demand I have an injection (its not a vaccine) or wear a mask, tell them to get fucked.
I’ve said it until I’m blue in the face to people about what I think is going on but family and friends simply bury it and don’t want to know.
It will take people to be inflicted with more state sponsored misery to get them to respond – such an example are my parents being asked to have a 3rd injection of god knows what. They will, at last, refuse.
However, I fear no amount of fucked up dystopia will result in the cowed population waking up, even after their 4th, 5th, 6th, enforced injections. They want an easy life, no matter the cost.

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  karate56

Take heart, there are at least twenty two million unvaxxed people in the UK.

The government are either statistically incompetent, or, more likely are fixing their numbers to demoralise us.

That is about a third of the population.

https://t.me/s/JohnDeesAlmanac/639

http://www.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/~norman/papers/inconsistencies_vaccine.pdf

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

And many of them are BAME.
That’s probably the real reason for Johnson’s libertarian hesitancy.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Reminded me of the ONS ‘hesitancy survey’ some months ago. Image attached.

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banjojo
banjojo
4 years ago
Reply to  JohnK

Don’t you hate the word ”hesitance”? Why not ”REFUSAL”? Because it suggests coercion?

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

They don’t even have to be “statistically competent” to fiddle the numbers though; anyone can do it!

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  karate56

I think you are right – people DO just want an easy life and will do what it takes to go along with it without questioning anything too much – even when it is shoved right in their faces, shrugging their shoulders and saying “what can I do about it?”, as if they have no say over what happens to their life – an attitude which I just cannot get my head around.

At least your parents will refuse the 3rd jab. Mine will take it and I will have to stand on the sidelines, watching, as it kills them which it will inevitably do, having done all I possibly can to try to educate them about what is going on.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

It might not. If they got through the first two with no bad reactions, the third might be ok too. Early to say.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

They are still alive Sandra, but I would be lying if I said that the first 2 jabs had left them unscathed. My mum in particular was badly affected by her jabs and I am very wary indeed of the effect the booster combined with the flu jab will have on her.

Gefion
Gefion
4 years ago
Reply to  karate56

Watching people clamouring for their vaccination/booster so that they can go on holiday is depressing. I’m surrounded by people like that – they just want an easy life, as you say…

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

don’t forget the clot-shot boosters last less and less time.

Was 6 months now 5…
in 20 months the booster clot shots will have zero effect.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  karate56

Burlington Bertie has posted an outstanding video link to the article below about healthcare workers in Australia being suspended.

It shows how lawyers around the world are still on the case both from a Common Law direction and Human rights.

Well worth watching in full if not nailing to the header at Daily Sceptic.

From pointing out that no bureaucracy can ride roughshod over laws and conventions just because of an ’emergency’ (cf shooting prisoners of war) to mentions of specific instances in the UK where affidavits have been served on schools (who knew that Dorset has withdrawn from school vaccines ?apparently) and where specific legal actions are right now going ahead.

Just a pity it takes the law to get going.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

Considering that the G20 No COVID for us, we’re important! G20 meeting took place before English COVID restrictions where lifted, there seem to be little reaons why the COP26 conference could not also take place while the general population is prohibited from this or that our cherished leaders happily do themselves.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

Never apologise for being right.

Once his Davos cronies are done lecturing us on the need for austerity (then flown home on their private jets) he will impose social credit score apps on England. They’re already going through their trial phases in the Celtic Fringes to iron out the wrinkles.

The first thing added will be “booster” clot-shots, to Save our Christmas, then will come carbon credits (sin tithes) in order to fly.

Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

Lets face it you wouldn’t be able to throw him very far. I’ve never known anyone with a personal trainer to pile the pounds on like he has over the last 12 months.

mojo
mojo
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

Totally agree. His father was also a liar and destroyed his marriage due to lies and philandering.

Mark
4 years ago

Some truth in this, though it won’t be very popular I suspect.

But it’s irrelevant as far as I’m concerned because Johnson was directly, personally responsible for the worst peacetime policy disaster in modern British history. Politically, that’s unforgivable and irredeemable.

The buck stops, in the UK, with the Prime Minister

Tee Ell
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Well I was going to comment but you’ve already said it.

It may be true, but it’s irrelevant musing if he never acts on it.

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

It’s probably today’s clickbait! 🙂

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Elected officials are useful idiots.
They don’t call any shots. Not any shots that matter anyway.
At best they get to decide HOW they are going to do what is expected of them.
If they go off the reservation, they’re out in no time.

7941MHKB
7941MHKB
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Agreed.

But at least Covid+Lockdown has been a genuine disaster.

The faux “Climate Crisis” is 24 carat, weapons grade bullshit and Boris’s crazy promotion of it to please Princess Nut-Nut, will cause damage to us all, an order of magnitude greater than Lockdown.

First and foremost his beloved (and allegedly ‘cheaper’ – Ho bloody Ho. Just look at the companies’ accounts!) Ruinable Energy. The “solution” that doesn’t work to a “problem” that doesn’t really exist.

Hopeless
4 years ago

I just hope you’re right.

The problem we have is that what we had before all this now seems to be in the gift of politicians, their medical lackeys, the supine media, and the rest, topped off by a poll-believing public who seem to desire enslavement and dictatorship.A SoS for Health can threaten peoples’ withdrawal of “freedom” on the grounds of medical interventions. Charlatans and experts of all stripes queue up to justify themselves, their positions and no doubt financial rewards as well.

There is apparently no power that’s independent of the Nero de nos jours to gainsay a sudden reversal to the insanity before. Parliament, the Law, the Churches, the Professions and the Fourth Estate are without desire to resist or prevent these things from recurring. We don’t even have the prospect of an election in the near future.

I don’t have a very Panglossian view of the future. More Manichean on the dark side, with a blackhearted liar to exemplify it.

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago

No, sorry, I’m not buying it. The buck stops with Johnson. Everything that has been brought about in this total shitshow has been, ultimately, his responsibility. At any time, he could have taken a different path, but chose not to. I still see lots of people wearing masks, even outside, even on sunny days, even on wet days when the rain makes the cloth stick to their face, or the paper mask fall apart. I still see people sanitising their hands and wiping down shopping trolleys. I still see signs in shop windows advising that “to keep everyone safe” they are continuing to limit numbers inside the shop, or asking everyone to continue to wear a mask. Only a month ago, I saw a sign in a shop which asked anyone who couldn’t or didn’t wear a mask to wait outside until the shop was empty, and only then could they enter to be served. This was to allow the masked to have a choice as to whether or not they entered the shop, and risked breathing the same air as someone without a mask! And you think all that is “normal”? Not by my standards it isn’t. And we… Read more »

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Boris Johnson’s bodyguards all seem to like him.

COP26 shows what a fake pandemic ‘Covid’ is – has Nicola Sturgeon been asked why people can now just waltz into Scotland without any 10-days quarantine in some slum hotel at their own expense?

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Please don’t apologise for being right. There’s no need to respect idiotic statements, or the supine, useful idiots that make them.

ChaunceyTinker
ChaunceyTinker
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

I’ve been trying to warn people about Johnson for years.

“Who Is Running The Country?”
http://participator.online/articles/2021/08/who_is_running_the_country_20210801.php

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  ChaunceyTinker

http://participator.online/articles/2021/10/more_concerning_data_on_covid19_jab_effectiveness_and_safety_20211030.php interesting too The official line has been that the injections protect the jabbed from serious risk of being hospitalized and dying, but 2 data analysts in the UK who have taken a critical look at the data have been challenging that narrative this week. Professor Norman Fenton is a mathematician, he is currently Professor of Risk Information Management at Queen Mary University of London. He appeared in an interview that was posted this week on a Youtube channel called Thinking Slow. During the interview (40 minutes long), he says that there are a significant number of deaths coming between the first jab and 14 days immediately after the SECOND jab, this time window is very significant because the jabs are not considered to start being effective until after this period; and so he says that in official statistics people who die in this window are sometimes counted as UNvaccinated deaths. Quote (@6:33): some agencies actually count a person as un-vaccinated if they die within 14 days of the second dose, or after just one dose, … in the context of death attribution this doesn’t make sense at all. In my mind this is very alarming because it opens the possibility I think that mortality data… Read more »

porgycorgy
porgycorgy
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Yes, absolutely. And he IS JOHNSON, as you very correctly say. It’s time he was referred to consistently by his surname. He is NOT our friend.

Paul B
4 years ago

It’s completely unforgivable, using billions of our money to lie and terrify us, neglect, obfuscate, censor, coerce, and on and on.

The man should resign, the simple fact that everyone else was worse isn’t really a defence.

The facts were plain to see for anyone who wanted to look around the time of the Diamond Princess.

Will
Will
4 years ago

I hope this article isn’t “famous last words”. There were fewer kids having their LFTs after half term. It is a private school where we live and work so we have to be seen to play the game… I suspect even more will opt out on Thursday. I think people have had enough, they know the vaccines don’t stop infections so it is time for everyone to get on and take their chances.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago

And that sort of thinking, ladies and gentlemen, is why bad politicians are reelected… over and over again.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Bingo. “Oh, but all the other puppets for the Party of Davos are mouthing worse things than this puppet. He gets my vote!”

Its the same hand up every arse.

Mark
4 years ago

By the world’s standards, we have actually muddled our way through the pandemic with our “old normal” relatively intact. And this should, after all, be the bar by which success is judged. Negotiating to a position of living with the pathogen with one’s society unscathed is what pandemic management is all about. We seem to have almost got there.

This is a bit like saying we “almost escaped being killed”.

And while international comparisons are important, they are hardly exculpatory when almost the entire world has stampeded into a disastrous mass hysteria, exploited by some of the darkest corporate and political forces in existence.

Just returning to a temporary partial recovery of immediate liberties (except for the un”vaccinated”, of course, in many aspects) is of little comfort, when you consider the appalling costs paid and still to be paid for, the deadly precedents set, the nauseating habits acclimatised.

Stephensceptic
Stephensceptic
4 years ago

I think this is right. Johnson is a deeply cynical, power hungry politician. I am not sure that a single word he says can be believed. Am not even sure he believes any thing that he says himself. As David Starkey said of him back in March 2020: he wants to be liked, he is lazy and he has no values other than self interest. It is hard to believe that at COP26 he is doing anything other than playing to a crowd. Possibly with crossed fingers. This man is definitely not Churchill; a truly great man with the moral courage to oppose the establishment group think of the day that thought Hitler was benign. However, the overall outcome as a direct result of government action here on Covid has been less bad than in many other places. I do not believe, by the way, that governments have “saved” lives anywhere. It is simply a question of how much bad effect they have managed to avoid creating. At my own workplace (a shared building) there used to be a sign in the foyer requiring everyone to wear a mask. It seems to have been taken down. Zero fanfare. No announcement.… Read more »

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Stephensceptic

What chance bozo and chums thought the game might be up and decided to see what people do (social distancing and the rest), follow us and then claim to have led us there themselves?

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Stephensceptic

 This man is definitely not Churchill; a truly great man with the moral courage to oppose the establishment group think of the day “

Yes Churchill was a Georgist, the most anti-establishment political party there is.
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7941MHKB
7941MHKB
4 years ago

I suspect that if Boris had been in politics 80 years ago he’d have been worse than Chamberlain or Lord Halifax. Perhaps more like Lord HawHaw.

Like Churchill?

My arse.

NeilofWatford
4 years ago

Too generous by far.
Kids forced to wear masks.
Care workers sacked.
No entry to major events without testing or vax certs.
Restricted international travel
Etc etc.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

Yep.The totalitarian tiptoe has got its slippers on so you can’t hear it…But it’s very much there!

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

the treatment of the elderly in care homes – the midazolam deaths – the way deaths were certified where anyone who died of anything was used as a covid statistic – the corruption where friends/relatives of govt ministers allegedly were awarded government PPE contracts, the on-off threatening of the vaccine passports, the inhumane quarantining, the unnecessary jabbing of kids without parental consent etc etc I could add so much more it is hard to know where to stop. What part of any of that is at all in any way libertarian????

Julian
4 years ago

Fuck off.

Doesn’t feel free to me.

Still in the grip of the Big Lie.

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Seconded.

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

My first thought seeing this article was “is this the clickbait of the day?”.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Is the right response. Not “I’m every so sorry for disagreeing with your drivelling propaganda…”

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago

I don’t feel OK about him but I suppose whenever the formalisation of vaccine passports ever comes up he can be quoted (and possibly this was not an accident):

“…the double vaccination provides a lot of protection against serious illness and death but it doesn’t protect you against catching the disease, and it doesn’t protect you against passing it on.”

I have btw published an article on the origins of the vaccine passport business this morning.

https://www.ageofautism.com/2021/11/id-2020-re-visited.html

crisisgarden
4 years ago

It does seem such an obvious gaffe that I wondered at the time whether he was deliberately letting the cat out of the bag to kill vaxports. Then I came to my senses and thought no, it’s just a gaffe and he and the media will just pretend it never happened.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Apparently he also ‘gaffed’ in the same week that ‘recycling doesn’t work’ but that’s another story.

1984imminent
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

A bit like Matt Hancock or whoever it was saying “masks are ineffective at containing the virus”; then, lo and behold, soon after we were coerced into nappying up. Let’s not forget the many things from Saint Boris’s orifice which were swiftly followed by a U-turn: “schools are safe”, “we can turn this virus around in twelve weeks”, “normalish by Christmas”, “significant normality by Easter”, “it would be inhumane to cancel Christmas”, “freedom on 19th June”.

I do agree that in general we are FOR THE MOMENT in a slightly better place than other parts of the world, and I’m hoping and praying the government keeps their nerve on the strategy of “let it rip, but shhhh… don’t tell anybody”, but I doubt if Saint Boris is really calling the shots on this; he is a puppet who recites whatever script is put in front of him, and says whatever his masters (unions among others) make him say.

Rogerborg
4 years ago

MiniTruth requires you to correct that mis-recollection, citizen. No such thing will have ever been said.

When Colonial Supreme Scientist Fauci, for example, declared that he had always said that three clot shots would be the minimum required, were you one of the terrorists who raised your dirty paw and said “But… I don’t remember that” ?

mikec
4 years ago

He ‘only” partly shut down my business, thankfully he ‘only’ cost me £22k in lost earnings. Thank god he’s a libertarian….. he’s a clown who followed a plan gifted to him by the CCP, he’s finished and I think he’s knows it. On top of the COVID debacle when I voted blue I didn’t really want green and he’s depending on a good showing as his legacy. I’m surprised how desperate the backbenchers must be to cling to power, they ditched May for far less.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  mikec

Johnson is no libertarian’ – he’s a nasty thug who helped his mate Darius Guppy to have a journalist beaten up.
Do you all think it’s swell and dandy to have a ‘Prime Minister’ who’s happy to see people get a “couple of broken ribs”?
Yet here we are hoping he’s going to “be a man and resign”. Who are you kidding?

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Yes Boris is Boristarian, whatever suits him at that exact minute. There’s no plan, no backbone and no character behind him.

At the moment he’s placating Carrie’s narcisism with our earnings.

Mark
4 years ago

We ought to be fair to him and give him some credit for that; we all know that if Keir Starmer was in charge things would look very different indeed.”

It’s obviously true that things would have been far worse with the Labour “zero covid” fuckwits in charge, whether Blairite or Corbynite. But “libertarian” Johnson is busy reinforcing the repressive leftist speech control measures that suppress dissent from political correctness, that we have built up during ten years of “Conservative” government. He is enthusiastically pushing upon us disastrous and disastrously stupid green totalitarian panic measures – again building on commitments and actions built up during ten years of “Conservative” rule.

Until we stop letting “Conservatives” like Johnson take us for a ride, we will continue to get “Conservative” election victories but never any conservative governance.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I’m not so sure things would be worse under kneeler. In opposition, I suspect that Conservative values would still be bowed to by the Cons and, as a result, there would have been some parliamentary opposition and thus limitation of the worst!

Katabasis
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

Some portion of the media would have been relentlessly attacking the government in that scenario too.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

That is a possibly alternative scenario whereby things might have been somewhat better. But no thanks to the aforementioned fuckwits, in any case.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Difficult to tell. While I agree that Starmer would almost certainly have wanted even more draconian regulations, it’s possible that the Tories would have taken the role of ‘opposition’ in parliament more seriously and actually challenged some of it (as various Republicans are doing in the US). Obviously it would also have been influenced by the size of any parliamentary majority.

The right-wing media might not have been so compliant against a Labour government, either.

crisisgarden
4 years ago

I just don’t think this is in Johnson’s hands and to imply that it is misses the power shift that has happened over the past two years (or much longer, depending on where you want to start your timeline). Nor is it in the hands of Biden, Macron, Ardern, Trudeau or any of the other ghouls who have found themselves nominal leaders of their respective nations. Something else is very obviously going on, centred on the United States. It’s obvious they’re not acting in the interests of their populations, I don’t even think they’re acting in their own interests. Something has forced them to act irrationally, despotically, oppressively. Why? they didn’t need more power, more control, more wealth. They had those things already. Something else is going on and I would put (soon to be worthless) money on a rapidly unfolding economic catastrophe and the desperate need to change the financial scenery without the audience noticing.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Psst… I’ll let you in on a secret… there’s a virus which is knocking out some hospitals.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Which hospitals? Can you name them? In what ways are they being knocked out?
The latest numbers show that there are currently 6905 patients in UK hospitals who have had a positive COVID test. That is an average of about 5.5 COVID patients per UK hospital.

If a hospital has been “knocked out” by such a small amount of illness, it must be the NHS that’s to blame, nothing to do with an ongoing “pandemic”.

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rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Sure, here you go: NHS Trusts with full critical care wards in week up to 10 January this year:

  1. Maidstone and Tunbridge Wells
  2. Portsmouth Hospitals
  3. Sandwell and West Birmingham Hospitals
  4. University Hospitals Birmingham
  5. Airedale
  6. Calderdale and Huddersfield
  7. Royal United Hospitals Bath
  8. Harrogate and District
  9. Dartford and Gravesham
  10. Chesterfield Royal Hospital

And yes, it does not take much to overwhelm a hospital because ICU capacity is usually near 90% during winter season. The reason for that is economy, the hospital’s job is not to sit there with lots of empty bets and staff twiddling their thumbs until some unvaccinated idiot arrives. Not to mention the little difficulty of finding enough staff at all to do the sitting. Since this mode of operation pretty much worked everywhere before the pandemic, the current
crisis very much has everything to do with the pandemic.

Do you have any other questions?

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

No, they’re waiting for vaccinated idiots, too.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

Correct, there is on average 10x fewer vaccinated idiots getting hospitalized than unvaccinated idiots, though. But of course, this proportion is going to change when we run out of the unvaccinated sort. What will not change is the fact that the unvaccinated idiots have made the hospitals’ situation 10x worse than it needed to be at some time.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Why are vaccinated people being hospitalised with Covid AT ALL?
Why are they catching it AT ALL?

It’s not really a vaccine, is it?
It doesn’t stop people being infected with COVID
It doesn’t stop then transmitting it
and it doesn’t stop people being admitted to hospital with it, or dying from it.

What exactly is it then?

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Well, that’s a load of sh*te. This is statistical trickery, using Jan as a start date (vast majority unvaxxed), and classifying anyone under 14 days from clotshot II as ‘unvaxxed’. A more honest analysis would start with the situation now (Oct figures), and then work back month-by-month in order to gauge any progression or trend. But I suspect you know that.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

You have rather moved the goalposts since your original post talked about “hospitals” and now you are talking about ICUs which, by your own admission, are nearly always close to 100% full – because if you have capacity there why wouldn’t you move the most seriously ill there to keep a closer eye on them.

You still haven’t named any hospital which has been “knocked out”. Even during the height of the pandemic last spring the hospitals coped, evidenced by the fact that the Nightingale hospitals were mothballed having hardly been used and as you can see from the chart above, hospital patients with COVID are now around one sixth of the peak in February 2021.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

You certainly spend a lot of time conversing with idiots. Why do you bother?

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Hmmm, I’m sure Royal United Bath is still there, at least it was last time I drove past – maybe it’s been cratered since, though I’m sure the local news would have mentioned it.
Knocked out? Don’t make me laugh. Occasonal and transitory ICU overload in an NHS that has been gradually diminished over 20 years or more is not unusual. Furthermore, many reports of overload were soon shown to be false (eg Manchester, Nottingham). Meanwhile, Summer 2020 was about the quietest period in NHS history, just as waiting lists were piling up to gargantuan levels.
Current NHS pressure is the result of chronic mismanagement, panic and stupidity from those making and imposing policy.
Any other questions? Yes. How is it that someone who has investigated the investigational (experimental) genetic therapies and found them to be potentially (now actually) dangerous, with no idea of long-term effects at all gets to be an idiot, while someone who buys the obvious lies and propaganda we’ve been subjected to for 20months (=3 weeks to flatten the curve) is a fount of all wisdom?
Tw*t.

imp66
imp66
4 years ago

Chris, I’ll say it for you: “TWAT! “.

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  imp66

Ta

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Way back when there was a widely publicised report about Blackpool’s major 700 bed hospital being overwhelmed with Covid patients.

A nurse whistleblower then said yes, the ICU was full of Covid patients, all of ten beds, none of them on respirators which was then the norm for the seriously ill.

That story quickly disappeared.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Blackpool’s main hotel WAS overwhelmed with dingy divers though.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

“Blackpool council has accused the Home Office and Serco of deliberately acting to frustrate the justice system after placing asylum seekers in a hotel, despite objections that the accommodation was wholly unsuitable. About 140 people, mostly families, have moved into the Grand Metropole on Blackpool promenade.”

There we are again, all money going to Serco.
Why not just go the whole hog and have Serco in Parliament, every MP an employee of Serco.
What’s that? They already are?!!

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

And do tell us Sherlock, does it follow that EVERY hospital that struggled with a full ICU ward was just like Blackpool?

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Here’s another secret: That’s always supposed to happen next month unless we now … prohibit people from walking outside of the homes between 9pm and 6am or some other perfectly random shit someone presently wants to be enforced for some reason. It has actually been this way throughout all of this so-called pandemic. It was always inevitable next month.

Besides, if the health system has a dire lack of capacity, spending billions of $currency on something else, eg, imported Chinese facemasks or millions of PCR tests performed on healthly people does seem a very strange way of dealing with that. Almost as if someone wanted the so-called problem to continue to keep employing it for something.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

No, it hasn’t – some hospitals’ ICU wards were actually full for a period of time. And in some big cities around the world the morgues could not keep up with processing of the “input”, as another little reminder.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

I assumed you were referring to the always-predicted-to-happen-next-month collapse of the health care system. During the winter wave, some ICU patients in the UK had to be rerouted to different hospitals, however, that’s – as far as I know – standard practice in winter.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Sheesh well I did not know that. It all makes perfect sense now; thanks for setting me straight.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

But don’t tell anybody here or else you will get disliked!

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Yep. Covid is theatre to distract from “an unprecedented economic endeavour” to quote the Canadian report which leaked the intentions of our rulers a year ago.

https://thecanadianreport.ca/is-this-leaked-memo-really-trudeaus-covid-plan-for-2021-you-decide/

I wonder how they will get on with depriving us of private property?

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

James Corbett debunked this; declared it a fake. But he does think that a big false flag is imminent in order to maintain the crisis/emergency powers etc long enough to bridge the gap to the new systems.

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

Link please! Cannot find anything myself on this.
Because for a fake it is remarkably accurate.
I have some problems with Corbett because he is so prolix and wordy. It takes ages to get through his videos.

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

https://www.corbettreport.com/qfc080-deagel/

I found this, but oddly, do not find his debunking of deagel or the canadian leak very convincing.

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

Yes, I almost never watch his videos, only ever read his articles. You seem to have found the one about Deagel; his debunking of the purportedly leaked Canadian govt minutes/letter is linked to under that I think.

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

Yep found it, but he does not provide any convincing reasons for refuting these leaks. I now have my doubts about Corbett! Maybe I need a tinfoil hat for Xmas.

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

Just watched about 5 minutes at around the 33 – 37 minute mark where he looks at it, and during which he mentions one of the reasons why he agrees with fact checkers that is fake, which is that the strategic committee that the letter is supposedly about doesn’t exist. But yes, other than that he doesn’t bother to examine in detail for the video. I agree that there’s no reason to think he’s infallible, I just find him reasonably sound on stuff that I do know something about and/or have read in other reasonably sound places.

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

Without getting too conspiracy theorist, it is not unexpected that there would be some leaks from government sources, given the unprecedented attack on our historic and constitutional rights.
So where are they if not these?

And why should a leaker, who is predicting future plans, be completely right?
As these plans will be fine tuned as events progress.

And if you were risking (possibly) your life to get something out, would you give the name of your “strategic committee” when that will locate you and put you at risk?

I find Corbett’s behaviour here a bit suspect. Wheels within wheels.

I do not have much interest in the Deagel population forecasts but – Corbett gives no convincing reasons as to why the older predictions should not be taken at face value.
Deagel predicted that a pandemic and financial meltdown would destroy decadent western civilisation which had no resilience to shock treatment.
Looks pretty accurate on the face of it, and this prediction was made what, eight years ago?

Population of the UK 15 million by 2025

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

The “Strategic Committee” he may be referencing may not be real, but the scenario he outlines, wherever it comes from, does seem to have a worrying reality to it:

“We were told it was in the individuals best interest to participate. When several committee members pushed relentlessly to get an answer we were told that those who refused would first live under the lock down restrictions indefinitely. And that over a short period of time as more Canadians transitioned into the debt forgiveness program, the ones who refused to participate would be deemed a public safety risk and would be relocated into isolation facilities. Once in those facilities they would be given two options, participate in the debt forgiveness program and be released, or stay indefinitely in the isolation facility under the classification of a serious public health risk and have all their assets seized.”

What it outlines seems to be the “Great Reset” via debt forgiveness plus compliance with the vaxx requirements – those people can live lives free of restrictions – but for those who won’t do it they get put into solitary confinement indefinitely – or until they agree to do it.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

Which powers bozo just last week extended for a further 6 months without even a vote, just a smirk from the Speaker, reminiscent of Bercow at his worst.

He can reimpose full lockdown with tip of his tippy tappy via Twitter.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

The depriving people of their property part is the bit I just do not see how they persuade people to go along with. If you have worked long and hard to buy your house/car/lifestyle etc and the “workarounds” you have been using over the last 20 months no longer work as your property is to be taken from you – how do they get people to accept that?

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

If it gets to that stage we should see some real resistance. But they are already raising interest rates, after enticing people to take on massive mortgages at historically unprecedented low rates. The repossessions should drop into the banksters mouths like ripe plums.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

A power struggle is the real issue. It’s largely exacerbated by the following:

  • Fourth industrial revolution (automation)
  • Grotesque and increasing economic inequality
  • Sino-American war
  • Paranoia
Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Yes, the biggest financial bubble ever is bursting/has burst and the PTB are doing everything they can to distract from and disguise this collapse, which if seen clearly, not bailed out by stratospheric levels of covid/emergency spending etc, is in fact the ruination and end of the fortunes built on infinite speculation, which have been preying on the productivity and gullibility of the vast majority. There is nothing there in those fortunes, no substance. But this covid crisis behaviour, lockdowns, etc, allows them to pretend that all is intact, and to make the transition to a new system, with new bets.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I believe this is correct. Tom Woods believes similar – see Technocracy News site.

Catherine Austin Fitts also has similar views.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Yes. It was Ernst Wolff’s speech in the Summer that convinced me of the idea – his is the most lucid account of what we’re seeing that I’ve encountered. Under his interpretation, the fourth industrial revolution / creeping technocracy can be seen as a ruse, designed to terrify and confound the proportion of the population not terrified by the virus. It strikes me that very early on in the crisis, I was completely aware of the roadmap to tyranny we now find ourselves on. I don’t think this is because I was especially prescient, my opinion was being shaped by alternative media. I’m not saying that the technocratic aspirations of our favourite arch criminals aren’t real, I just feel like it’s possible it may also have been its own kind of manipulation.

Nessimmersion
4 years ago

The optimism about masks with the statement “Most of us haven’t worn a mask in months. Kids are in school.” is rather contradicted by the article above on https://staging.dailysceptic.org/2021/11/01/thousands-of-english-schoolchildren-forced-to-wear-masks/ by Toby.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

Yes – the man obviously hasn’t been to a supermarket to do the family’s shopping. I know it varies, but round me it is still (approx) 75% in masks.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

95-100% here in Finland wearing face masks in the shops. Discarded blue face masks litter the streets and roads of Finland.

RTSC
RTSC
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

Down here in rural Dorset, mask-wearing is increasing again. I estimate 50%+ in supermarkets; 30% in town centre.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

And have been eleswhere in the country for weeks.

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

Yes, the college where I teach is expecting students to be wearing face masks for 3 hour exams this week

TheGreenAcres
4 years ago

The litmus test will be to see what happens once Flop26 is finished.

RickH
4 years ago

A total twat dressed up in tattered glad-rags by a wish-fulfilling acolyte is still a total useless twat.

Noumenon
4 years ago

Is this the libertarian equivalent of original sin?

Is Boris Schrödinger’s libertarian?

iane
iane
4 years ago

Well the author is obviously using some good weed!

Katabasis
4 years ago

This is an appallingly naive article.

The wifebeater has given his wife temporary leave to go to the shops on her own. A “freedom” granted that can (and will) arbitrarily be removed at any time. What a libertarian!

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

Sorry, but I don’t feel the same way about Johnson as the author. I lost faith in the imbecile in March 2020, since then I have descended into complete loathing for the anti-human obnoxious cretin.

Is that clear enough?

Jo Starlin
4 years ago

Professor McGrogan. You have been staunch throughout, and I salute you. But, no. The man is a maniac.

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago

Meh.

Lets just say this is truth… then he is pathetically weak at best.

But I dont think it’s the truth

alw
alw
4 years ago

Was in Sicily recently. Very few abiding by mask rules.

Evison1
4 years ago

Thanks. I’ll remember to put this little hagiography into my application to the Young Conservatives.

AN other lockdown sceptic
AN other lockdown sceptic
4 years ago

Comrade Johnson a libertarian. That’s comedy genius that is. Never forgive, never forget.

Steve-Devon
4 years ago

He like so many of the world leaders has sold his soul to the mRNA vaccine devil (mainly Pfizer), Pfizer are virtually calling all the shots on this, they are sidelining all alternative vaccines and treatments, they are telling countries what they can and cannot do. Whatever our Dear Leader is doing or not doing it seems to be all dependent on him delivering the requisite number of mRNA vaccine injections.