Biden Administration Telling U.S. States to Prepare to Vaccinate Children as Young as Five against Covid Next Month
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not yet decided whether to authorise the emergency use of the Pfizer Covid vaccine in children aged five-11, but reports suggest the Biden Government is already quietly telling states to prepare to begin jab roll-outs for this age group as early as next month. MailOnline has the story.
Recently, Pfizer submitted an application [to] the FDA to expand emergency use of its Covid vaccine to include kids between ages five and 11.
An unnamed White House official told NBC News that the Federal Government has been telling state governors that it anticipates the authorisation will come in the next few weeks, as soon as early November.
What’s more, an official in the Department of Health and Human Services told the news outlet that [the] Biden administration has already purchased 65 million pediatric doses of Pfizer’s vaccine.
That’s more than the two doses needed to fully vaccinate the 29 million children in the U.S. who would now become eligible.
According to clinicaltrials.gov, Pfizer’s study in younger children worked similarly to the way it did in older children and adults. …
[But] unlike the larger clinical trial conducted in adults, the pediatric trial did not measure efficacy by comparing the number of Covid cases among the vaccine group to the number in the placebo group.
Instead, scientists looked at levels of neutralising antibodies in young vaccine recipients and compared the levels to those seen in adults.
The companies expect data on how well the vaccine works in children between ages two and five and between six months and two years of age by the end of the year. …
Because of this low risk of severe illness, polls have shown that many parents are not inclined to vaccinate their children.
A July 2021 survey, conducted by CS Mott Children’s Hospital National Poll on Children’s Health at Michigan Medicine last month, found that 39% of parents said their children [had] already gotten a coronavirus shot.
However, 40% of parents also said it was “unlikely” that their children would be getting vaccinated.
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Let’s go, Brandon!
I didn’t get the reference. Now I do. Here ya go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t_MTWjlMe4
The link in my comment is to a comment explaining the reference….
Trump smacks down vaccine mandates, promotes ‘natural immunity’ on Fox News
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Did he whisper these instructions I wonder? Appalling disgusting nonsense. ‘The companies expect data on how well the vaccine works in children between ages two and five and between six months and two years of age by the end of the year. …’ 😂 it would need to be fucking incredible to do better than their own immune system, how do measure the difference between fuck all and fuck all?
And what diabolical moron offers its six-month-old sprog as a lab rat for a useless pseudovaccine?
I can only think there must be quite a lot of money in it for them, sadly.
Some are just naive and brainwashed, like Maddie’s mother.
Such trials should be restricted to the progeny of the scientific and political elite.
Jacob Johnson, he will be made by Carrie to toddle forward for this.
One means of getting ‘participants’ but no doubt there will be some ‘parents’ who willingly offer what should be their most precious possession to the altar of covid.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/pfizer-accused-of-jabbing-orphan-babies-in-covid-trials/
The problem they’ve got – and by they I mean the inhuman pieces of shit running this crime – is that the disease simply doesn’t live up to their preplanned ‘solutions.’ I wonder whose fault that is. Peter Daszak perhaps? Or is it that human immune systems are just a little bit better than they realised in the testing stages? Either way, they are now very demonstrably performing responses that don’t fit the problem. Which is starting to look ridiculous. Ebola would have been a better bet; Bill Gates looks slightly embarrassed at next Davos meeting.
I actually suspect something a bit weird happened…
I think an insider baulked at the idea and funded the spread of a benign near-SARS2 coronavirus around the world as much as they could around 2019, obviously some countries and age groups got covered less and some more.
But this effectively immunised a large amount of the world, i.e. those 80% asymptomatic people.
Or covid 22 is the real bug….
That would align with something Rayc said the other day on another thread. I don’t ordinarily pay much attention to his 77th stuff – but maybe we turned him and he has gone rogue and let stuff slip that he shouldn’t have – either that or he is priming us to see how we react, hard to know with those 77th types. But he said that even if covid19 hasn’t worked out as they expected (as per Crisisgarden’s post above and TheyLiveAndWeLockdown’s theory that someone on the inside baulked) it could just have been the testing ground for the next assault – a new more deadly virus straight out of the lab that no one’s immune system is prepared for, and having primed us with lockdown and mass state medical intervention this time around they know they can press those buttons any number of times now and we will succumb – we will have no choice. I would hate to think that is the plan – but plausible?
theory might be a little strong but it does seem to make some sense as to the difference between state’s panicked expectation and actuality, the large numbers of people who’ve tested positive but had no (or negligible) symptoms and also some anomalous testing for “covid” from 2019 samples..
or we got lucky and a benign corona virus went around the world undetected after emerging in 2018
With the fake ‘people dropping dead on the streets’ videos from Wuhan, the fact that the virus was made in a lab etc., it doesn’t take much of a stretch to imagine that the CCP sent out a low level virus, then did their best to cause a panic, then sat down on the sofa with some pop corn. If that’s the case then kudos to whoever in the CCP dreamed up the idea. The West failed this shit-test big time.
Some articles are making the rounds saying that China are preparing for the Winter flu season, increasing hospital capacity etc., Will the West fall for the exact same trick only two years later? You bet’ya.
In other news a US alternative investment company called Blackstone (not BlackRock – that’s the huge one everybody knows about) are requiring vaccination proof in order to go into the office. Was in the financial press today.
Wasn’t Bill Gates caught months ago menacingly warning us about “the next one”?
Either way, I think it’s almost inevitable that there will be problems with bio-terrorism and biological warfare etc. this century.
Well plan or no plan the ground is prepared
Or the “vaccines” are the real bioweapons. This doesn’t seem remotely unlikely, as none of these dubious biological agents prevent infection with or transmission of the Sars-cov-2 coronavirus. The baseless blurb that they prevent serious complications of Covid-19 is just that, baseless blurb. In highly vaxxed Israel, it is the jabbed who are now faring much worse than those who wisely avoided the “Covid death shots”, as Dr Zelenko so very aptly describes them.
I think you’re on the right track, we’ve all (unstabbed) recently had colds, usual couple of days with sniffles and a thick head, my sibling and her partner (both at least double stabbed, although I suspect possibly triple) really unwell for the last week and continue to be so.
No, unjabbed in my house caught bad cold.
poison death shots
Ha! What a legend he is. So funny the way the Rabbinate in Israel reacted to his calling them that.
Rabbidate?
Thank you.
I just love the way he refers to it as anyone else would “the vaccine” (except us, of course)
I know. A casual ‘poison death shot’ every time. he’s great.
That’s what I got – in summer 2019. Like they seeded it.
The latest 21 year old double jabbed student athlete to die of Covid is a big alarm call. I do not believe he would have died of Covid alone.
Things could get very bad soon.
I hope I am wrong.
This will come here too, sooner or later.
My children’s primary school have their flu vaccinations scheduled for the first week of December.
Watch the authorities try to rush through COVID vaccination for primary school children at the same time. I guarantee they want to. They will say that the “vaccinators” will already be in the building and it makes sense to do both at once.
The JCVI will be opposed of course but we have seen that the government doesn’t give a t0ss about “the science” if it disagrees with their desired policies.
I feel like it’s going to be impossible in the current climate – they barely managed to roll it out to teenagers credibly and it’ll be even harder to justify for younger children. Of course, I can rule nothing out at this stage but I think it will be politically very tricky for them. If they do, and try to combine it with the ‘flu spray when no research has been done into interactions, then all bets are off and we’ll be looking at pulling our youngest out of school; I literally don’t want her to be anywhere near an institution that would deem that acceptable.
I agree with your first sentence but then this year I have thought that many times and turned out to be wrong.
My local primary school did theirs last week. I cannot see it being rolled out in the UK before the new year
One thing is clear from my research: For children, influenza is far more deadly than COVID-19. Deaths for children from influenza are still incredibly rare … just not as rare as deaths from COVID.
And the “flu shots” don’t really “work” either, but that’s a post for another day.
I was just about to ask, why the hell are they giving kids flu jabs? I don’t remember any child ever getting flu when I was at school. Big pharma has already got its claws well and truly into the kids and their parents, normalising the abnormal. Disgusting.
Going back an awful long time but flu just wasn’t an issue when I was a kid. We got the odd ‘bug’ or cold but maybe we didn’t get flu because we were allowed to catch what used to be the usual childhood illnesses and we weren’t vaccinated with everything in sight!
And second shots for the progeny of the foolish.
They are getting desperate but i`m optimistic that most parents will not oblige.
My sons school just sent out an email saying please fill in your covid forms if you want the vaccine for your kids. “Very few forms have been received”
😄👍🏻
And the deadline is tomorrow
But “vaccination teams overwhelmed by demand” – The Guardian
When tikTok powers off servers and Hello magazine reduces it’s print-run I’ll suspect the NHS is busy
Yeah, they had loads of the stuff left over at the end of the days they were in my school – which they then offered to over 50s as boosters! 🤡 Overwhelmed by demand!
So it’s exactly the same dose given to adults.
Very disturbing for when shot two comes amid created winter hysteria.
My children are both adults but I still find that is great and heartening news.
They’ll soon change their tune when they get that passive-aggressive letter from Mr Zahawi! 🙄
That cheers me immensely,
.
Good point.
It basically translated “let’s go brandon” into anglosaxon
Ha! Right.
What happened to the court case on Monday 11th where HMG were supposed to explain to the judge why the CMOs over-rode the JCVI on vaccines for 12 to 15 year olds?
I was wondering that too
Pfizer planning to vaccinate entire city in study….
Pfizer announced a plan to fully vaccinate an entire Brazilian city to study the long-term effects and safety of its COVID-19 vaccine in a “real-life scenario.”
The one-year study will simulate a situation in which everyone aged 12 and older is fully vaccinated with the Pfizer-BioNTech serum. It will closely monitor how long vaccine effectiveness lasts and how it works against new variants, according to The New York Times.
The study will take place in the Brazilian city of Toledo, where 98 percent of the population is vaccinated. It will be conducted by a hospital, a university, local health officials and Brazil’s national vaccination program, the Times reported.
So this is happening at the same time as ‘safe and effective’ is being touted for children??
They’re just using the Microsoft model of not testing their products before release and relying on the end users to find problems.
Strange, since the pharmaceutical industry is completely independent from Microsoft.
Oh, wait.
Surely they’ve already got Jerusalem? Too many independent thinkers turning up there?
Brazilians getting any choice on the second dose here?
Israelis found 150 hospitalisations for myocarditis per million in male 16-19 year olds (Table 3 in the referenced paper). JCVI expected vaccination of 12-15 year olds against COVID to save 90 hospitalisations per million. https://twitter.com/ClareCraigPath/status/1448316929849143297#m
Is it just me but was I the only person who wondered if Robert Webb had been jabbed, developed heart problems [after surgery 2 years ago, and then had to pull out of strictly – is it a jab reaction?
Did Webb previously screw up his health with celebrity nose talc?
I know a friend of a friend who i was really surprised to find out had just got out of hospital for heart surgery but was big fan of Columbia’s main export in the past.
It did cross my mind!
I don’t want to believe that there’s something sinister going on.
But these people just keep pushing an illogical agenda that flies the the face of scientific evidence.
Yep. They certainly need to stop making it look like there is…
It doesn’t have to be far-fetched to be sinister. At the least, it’s arse-covering. That’s sinister enough. Fauci knows very well that there’s no justification on medical grounds for this – he’s not stupid.
Meanwhile in France Macron extends ‘temporary’ vaccine passports until July 2022. Nothing to see here folks…
I vividly remember a comment from my French teacher, long ago: ‘Il n’y a rien qui dure autant que le temporaire.’ Nothing lasts longer than the temporary.
That smirk !!!
HYSTERICAL OVERREACTION(S)
Always been thus from the start.
The end point is to measure an increase in anti bodies? Not actually whether it prevents the illness then.
Same as Moderna and their EUA for boosters.
https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/moderna-boosters-at-the-fda
What a load of theatre.
I respect the fact that Pfizer has created a vaccine that likely has save tens/hundreds of thousands of at risk people.
that being said, jabbing children is all about the cash register. The 17-18 year olds snooks never have been jabbed. Then it was the 12 plus, who face greater risk from lighting. And now 5 year olds? Stop! This isn’t Ebola or even seasonal flu (far more dangerous to children). Stop this, now!
Pfizer are a corrupt outfit that have been convicted of civil and criminal offences all over the world, why anyone would trust them with a ‘warp speed’ vaccine that would make them $billions is beyond me.
Especially when they were granted immunity from prosecution no matter how many people their product killed or injured.
“I respect the fact that Pfizer has created a vaccine that likely has save tens/hundreds of thousands of at risk people.”
Everywhere in the world where the vaccines have been introduced there has been a simultaneous rise in “deaths with COVID”.
I don’t accept your premise at all. I think Pfizer has created a medical intervention which has at best has made no impact at all and at worst has caused significant excess death.
This indeed is true when one looks at real world data, of which there are heaps.
But that is too embarrassing, and so the drug pushers resort to the refuge of scoundrels – they use computer modelling to try to prove counterfactuals, i.e. this is what would have happened if we hadn’t done X.
But computer modelling, torturing data with corrupt premises to try to prove a counterfactual is disgraceful when there is a vast amount of real world data proving the opposite.
Even Pfizer admitted that, evaluating the real world data from Israel, the vaccine effectiveness after a few months was “not statistically significantly different from zero.”
They admitted that, of course, to persuade the FDA to approve the booster.
Except it obviously isn’t true is it. See examples above, or indeed pretty much any real world data from any country.
They didn’t admit this, because it isn’t true either.
I.e. 6% a month down from 95%. Also, in this context they mean efficacy against infection, not protection against hospitalisation and death, which seems to remain higher.
Source: Reuters 15 Sep 2021
If you can prove Pfizer did say this, provide the reference.
95% efficacy? You referring to relative risk reduction? And referencing Reuters? You might as well reference the BBC.
Dear Miles
While I admire the punnyness of your screenname, I’m afraid your comment
makes little sense.
OP claims Pfizer ‘admitted’ something, yet provides no reference for this.
OP’s claim is at odds with (as far as I can make out) all published data and all public statements made by Pfizer on this matter.
I provide an example of the public statements actually made by Pfizer regarding said matter, sourced from a generally well-regarded and generally neutral news agency.
Are you saying Reuters is making this statement by Pfizer up? Big news if so. Can you provide alternative statements by Pfizer supporting OP’s claim? It would be pretty easy to do so if true yes?
Dear Aunty Jen
This is a thread about administering unlicensed gene therapies with well-documented side effects to 5 year olds in order to prevent a disease to which they are not at risk; you don’t happen to have an opinion about that do you?
Didn’t think so.
Generally neutral!
What you have said ‘They didn’t admit this, because it isn’t true’ is an outrageous falsehood, and you are effectively calling me a liar for quoting them directly and 100% correctly. This is what Pfizer said to the FDA: The State of Israel Ministry of Health (Israel MoH) conducted an observational study to assess the effectiveness of BNT162b2 against various SARS-CoV-2 outcomes from 20 June 2021 through 17 July 2021. The study population consisted of residents of Israel (ie, the Census population) ≥16 years of age. Using previously-published methodology, VE estimates were assessed against hierarchical laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 outcomes: all SARS-CoV-2 infections (symptomatic and asymptomatic), symptomatic COVID‑19 cases, COVID-19-related hospitalizations, COVID-19-related severe or critical hospitalizations, and death.Further, effectiveness estimates from 20 June 2021 to 17 July 2021 showed that VE against SARS‑CoV‑2 infections and against symptomatic COVID-19 progressively declined as time-from-vaccine increased, with individuals ≥16 years of age vaccinated in January having only 16% effectiveness against symptomatic COVID-19, which was not statistically significantly different from zero. Do you recognize the words I quoted in there? Of course you do. What did Pfizer say on September 17? That VE ‘vaccine effectiveness’ after a few months ‘was not statistically significantly different from zero’.… Read more »
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Possibly the most enjoyable exchange I have read in this comments section.
Did I quote them accurately. You bet I did.Here’s the reference. See page 9.https://www.fda.gov/media/152161/download Excellent, thankyou. Yes, it was a bit lazy of me, and let’s set the record as straight we can. So, you claim: Even Pfizer admitted that, evaluating the real world data from Israel, the vaccine effectiveness after a few months was “not statistically significantly different from zero.” And the reference you now provide, says of the Israeli MoH data page 9: In this evaluation, among individuals ≥16 years of age, BNT162b2 effectiveness against SARS‑CoV-2 infection was only 39.0% (95% CI: 9.0%, 59.0%) and against symptomatic COVID-19 was 40.5% (95% CI: 8.7%, 61.2%) between 20 June 2021 and 17 July 2021. (i.e. a) 39% VE 4-7 months after 2nd dose) This was considerably lower than published effectiveness estimates from an earlier time period. Specifically, between 24 January 2021 to 03 April 2021 VE against these same endpoints was ≥95% for all age groups. 6 (i.e. b) 95% VE 0-3 months after 2nd dose) Further, effectiveness estimates from 20 June 2021 to 17 July 2021 showed that VE against SARS‑CoV‑2 infections and against symptomatic COVID-19 progressively declined as time-from-vaccine increased, with individuals ≥16 years of age vaccinated in January… Read more »
More on vaccine waning:
‘protection from pfizer against COVID hospitalisation was 91% up to 4 months, but after 4 months it fell to 77%‘
CDC study out 17 Sep 2021
UK readers will be interested in the two recent studies on VE waning:
‘protection after two doses of the Pfizer vaccine decreased from 88% at one month to 74% at five to six months; protection for AstraZeneca decreased was from 77% at one month to 67% at four to five months‘
Quoted from summary here
‘VE against hospitalisation at 15-20 weeks is 75-90% with the AstraZeneca vaccine and over 90% with the Pfizer vaccine. Finally, those aged 80 years and older who received the Pfizer vaccine within a 3-week interval between doses showed a greater degree of waning compared to the broader 65+ age group who had a 20+ week interval between doses though further analysis is needed to understand this difference’
source
Dear Arthur
You say “Everywhere in the world where the vaccines have been introduced there has been a simultaneous rise in “deaths with COVID””
This isn’t remotely true, as anyone can tell by looking at almost any country in the world where the AZ, Pfizer or Moderna vaccines have been rolled out.
This is a very feeble attempt to deceive people. Did you think readers here would fall for this?
Also, it would help your (false) premise if you posted a comparison of deaths against vaccinations, not of cases against vaccinations.
Examples of COVID deaths vs vaccinations, clearly showing the opposite of what you claim:
77 again.
Oh do FO.
I’ve no idea what this means, but I’d guess you are trying to stifle freedom of speech with a logical fallacy?
Is that what a sceptical thinker does when shown data?
Not going to try and offer an alternative explanation for that data, dispute its accuracy or relevance?
It does seem odd you chaps have chosen to rally round this clearly indefensible point. Don’t you think it diminishes your credibility in the minds of this community?
“Feeble attempt to deceive… did you think readers here…would fall for this?”
We’ve all been looking at the graphs of first 14 day jab effects for many months now, and we know it’s the case. You haven’t got to grips with the data at all, as your refuted accusation just proved.
Where’s the apology, by the way?
Ok, maybe you can show me the ’14 day jab effect’ in say Germany, USA or Sweden? Can you explain what this effect is?
Words and pictures please, as you can tell, I’m a slow learner.
You might have noticed that I’ve put those graphs up already, and it is obvious to all readers here that the bizarre claim that ‘everywhere’ vaccines have caused huge increases in COVID deaths is clearly untrue. Do you think defending this claim makes you more or less believable?
You are correct – I posted the wrong chart, cases instead of deaths. But here is the chart showing the rises in deaths with COVID in Israel correlating very clearly with the rises in vaccine doses, proving my original point.
It doesn’t prove your point though does it.
It shows deaths and vaccinations show a rough correlation in Israel. Which is not the point you were making.
Your point was EVERYWHERE in the world has seen this pattern. It was a foolish point to make as it’s easily refutable. Should have just stuck with a few examples don’t you think?
Unsurprisingly COVID deaths correlate with COVID cases in every country.
The UK
data
Germany
data
The USA
data
and Sweden
data
I see a lot of deaths after the vaccine in all of those countries.Not as closely correlated as in the case of the Israeli booster doses, but lota of deaths nonetheless.
Go on, show me the charts for Gibraltar, with 100% vaccine coverage, Iceland and the Seychelles. Cases as well as deaths. Show me how well the vaccines worked there.
A lot of deaths after the vaccine? In Sweden? In Germany? We can all see these graphs you know.
Gibralter, Iceland and Seychelles you say? All major population centres, I can see why these would be your go-to cases to prove a point.
Ok well let’s have a look shall we.
Iceland, er doesn’t have hardly any COVID deaths at all? And any that it does have are not correlated with their vaccine roll out? That’s the example you want me to look at to prove your point that vaccines cause the COVID deaths everywhere?
iceland
Er, pretty sure I can see the deaths in the UK start to tick up from Dec last year….at the same time as the vaccines were introduced.
And Sweden too. Remember the old people were vaccinated first in each of these countries, and the old people are frailest and most likely to die from COVID (especially if their lymphocyte count is suppressed for 2 weeks post jab)
A brave retort. Now await your haughty fact check!
To confirm – you are saying you see the Sweden COVID deaths start to increase at the same time as vaccines are introduced?
Anyone with eyes can see this is not true from the graph.
Shown here with a red line marking the start of vaccine roll out.
The Swedish spike in COVID deaths starts early Nov, then peaks mid Jan then rapidily falls, never climbing back up to any degree. Vaccine roll-out starts Jan 3rd.
I suppose the vaccines could have gone back in time and caused the deaths before they were administered?
This is either delusional or an extraordinarily brazen attempt to fool readers here.
Sweden data
‘I can see the deaths in the UK start to tick up….at the same time the vaccine were introduced’. It’s true roughly around the same time the UK’s vaccines started, there is an increase, but looking in more detail and with a wider timeframe it’s clear the vaccines are not the likely explanation. See graphs. If you align vaccine doses, cases and deaths by date you see: 1) Spike of cases starting early Dec and through the roof by mid Dec, cases peak Jan 9th and rapidly fall. 2) Deaths already high in Nov, pause, then start climbing Dec 17th, peak Jan 22nd and rapidly fall. I.e. the expected 2ish week lag between cases and deaths. Then stays down until summer wave slight rise. 3) Vaccine doses start rapidly increasing Jan 4th, then stay high bouncing up and down for first 6 months of 2021 The green line marks the vaccine roll-out 4-Jan, showing deaths were already rapidly increasing at this point having started increasing 2 weeks earlier – entirely in line with the case explosion. Deaths then very rapidly fall as the cases rapidly fall – even as vaccinations stay high for next 6 months. Vaccinations do not explain… Read more »
That’s right, “cases” (or positive test results?) were about 12,000 on 8th December, and shot up to over 60,000 by 5th January.
“Vaccinations” – of the most vulnerable – started on 8th December. I don’t know how many people were “vaccinated” over the coming weeks, but I do know it was the most vulnerable who were being injected. Yes’ respiratory mortality peaks at that time of year anyway – which, by the way, is a good reason not to do it at that time if these “vaccines” reduce immunity in the 2 weeks after “vaccination” (unless they are trying to hide an increase in mortality in the seasonal peak). Anyhow, dr. Mike Yeadon, who worked in the pharmaceutical industry for many years, says this high January peak was almost certainly connected to the “vaccination programme, and that is good enough for me.
The figures for Gibraltar were quite horrendous.
And to labour the point. Germany.
Again, the death increases clearly match the cases increases, and deaths start falling within 2 weeks of the vaccine roll out, i.e. NOT increasing as vaccine rolls out.
Not falling initially due to the vaccines mostly likely, but the case decrease that began 3 weeks earlier on Dec 23rd.
Blue line showing the start of vaccine roll-out.
Clear evidence that vaccine roll-outs in Germany did not cause large increases in COVID deaths, and on the contrary, strongly supporting that vaccines reduced death over 2021.
data
But have they though? – in fact they have ‘saved’ the lives off thousands of people who have been denied early treatment and told that covid is untreatable. They have solved an artificial problem in a dishonest paradigm; I’m not convinced that anyone has been saved by these concoctions.
I agree with you and Arthur. Any ‘prevention of serious illness and death’ appears to be sheer coincidence, following the rise and fall of a given wave. The fact that we never hit the lows of summer 2020 suggests that ‘something’ is in fact making things worse. What gets me is that no one is questioning why the simplest way of determining whether this chemical concoction does anything of use (well, obviously it is of great use to pfizer execs and shareholders) was not used before the mass roll-out. It has been known from the very beginning that a very specific group would be the only ones to benefit from a vaccine. Had that group, as was originally indicated, been the only ones to receive the vaccine and we had then seen a decrease in hospital admissions and deaths in that group only, with admissions and deaths remaining at equal levels in other groups, this could have been taken as some confirmation of efficacy. Simply pointing out that most people are now not ending up in hospital/dying disingenously ignores the fact that most people didn’t all along. Trying to push this stuff onto every living creature as quickly as possible… Read more »
‘Simply pointing out that most people are now not ending up in hospital/dying disingenously ignores the fact that most people didn’t all along.’
Bingo.
Oh Miss Miss I think I know this one!
Assuming you mean the UK, is ‘something’….a massive Delta COVID wave, then loosening of their social distancing restrictions?
Accompanied by huge drops in deaths as their vaccine programme ramped up?
Bit of a puzzler to be sure.
Seriously, this is weak stuff.
Oh put your hand down Aunty Jen. And stop suggesting that the vaccines are useless against the Delta variant. You’ll cause all sorts of hesitancy!
Umm. Delta didn’t get here until April/May remember? And the vaccines ramp up in those most likely to die was in Feb/March.
Must try harder and pay more attention in class.
Gold star for you.
Indeed it was! Late Feb was first delta. Winter 2020 was indeed just a ‘massive COVID wave’. I assumed you meant summer 2021 – which was delta + social distancing loosening?
Just to confirm then, so you are saying the UK vaccine ramp up in Feb/March was….making people die?
Could you point them out on this graph then?
Because looks to me like deaths really ramped up in Dec and Jan, then rapidly decreased in Feb? So…that would suggest vaccines were…helping?
Where is your apology? Bluster, not argument.
Sorry, apology about what? If you mean Proveritate’s false claim that they were quoting and representing Pfizer accurately, see response:
https://staging.dailysceptic.org/2021/10/14/biden-administration-telling-u-s-states-to-prepare-to-vaccinate-children-as-young-as-five-against-covid-next-month/#comment-610115
What do you think about Proveritate subtly promoting Pfizer’s case for booster shots? Even the FDA are more sceptical about it than Proveritate, bit suspicious isn’t it?
Greater risk from lighting?
Keep them in the dark, then?
ALERT: How is Pfizer getting away with claiming the vaccine “works” based on antibody levels? As the FDA has issued to healthcare professionals and consumers, “antibody tests should not be used to evaluate a person’s level of immunity or protection from COVID-19 at any time, and especially after the person received a COVID-19 vaccination.”
Antibody levels are what is called “false surrogate endpoints” — numbers that are not measures of health, disease or outcomes of any intervention. We never vaccinate children or healthy people until a vaccine has been thoroughly tested and has years of evidence showing it to be SAFE and EFFECTIVE and the benefits outweigh the risks. These actions by the Biden administration and pharmaceutical companies are a gross violation of scientific standards, not to mention ethics.
https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/safety-communications/antibody-testing-not-currently-recommended-assess-immunity-after-covid-19-vaccination-fda-safety
When this is all over public confidence in medicine will be so low that it’ll take years of truth and reconciliation for doctors or pharmaceutical companies to ever be trusted again. A dark age beckons.
Science in general..
Vaccines really are dangerous, not just these rushed mmRNA covid efforts but all vaccines.
The WHO had a vaccine specialist meeting in December 2019 and they openly admitted that the safety testing is next to useless and that effective long term safety monitoring does not exist.
Add that to the fact that they have never tested the effect of injecting multiple vaccines at the same time or the impact of the ever increasing number of shots given and we can all see why so many people are ‘anti-vax’.
SHOCKING VACCINE ADMISSIONS FROM INSIDE THE WHO
https://www.bitchute.com/video/wOXtTS4djENX/
Be interesting to know how many anti-vaxxers this episode has created. I had no opinion on them either way prior to 2020, now I don’t want me or anyone I know to ever take one for anything ever again.
Ditto
unfortunately the vast majority of the public think they are brilliant and will happily stick their arms out every time they are coerced, sorry, asked to. Most people don’t think for themselves or do their own research. If they did we might not be in this mess.
I was broadly in favour of them before, in cases where they conferred a high level of immunity, for a long time, against a genuinely dangerous disease – but even then, only for appropriately-targeted demographics, and following rigorous testing – and with proper informed consent, with no coercion.
The Covid “vaccines” meet none of these criteria – they appears to be at best useless and at worst contributing to illness and death, there is widespread and vicious coercion of nearly the whole population, the likes of which we’ve never seen before, and they certainly haven’t gone through rigorous testing.
I would definitely be more sceptical of all vaccines now, as many in the medical profession and supposed expert government advisors have repeatedly demonstrated over the past 18 months that they cannot be trusted.
“According to clinicaltrials.gov, Pfizer’s study in younger children worked similarly to the way it did in older children and adults”
So as in older children and adults it:
I’m sorry but I’m not persuaded this is a good medical intervention for my children.
I’m sold, where do I get mine?!
It is clear they are after the kids now for their “agenda” as they are simply bulldozing through regardless of need,safety and efficacy (i.e. lack of). However the parents must do some due diligence and use their common sense and say absolutely no to allowing their child to be injected with something that they don’t need and may well seriously harm them. There is lots of information out there now and if you don’t know where to look, plenty of people are talking so you only need to listen.
“Everyone having the jab, noone against the jab, noone outside the jab.” Definition of Vaccism
Jabbing guarantees citizenship! Do you want to know more?
The jab is the gateway to the social credit passport.
Absolutely, it’s the prick that does the trick!
Plenty are but a distressing number aren’t. If my school is anything to go by the (slightly depressing) ratio is 30/70. I despair – it’s not exactly like we’ve had to go to the dark recesses of the internet to see these things are harmful, is it?
Peter Doshi of the BMJ wrote an interesting article looking at some of the ways in which Pfizer manipulated their vaccine trial in order to get a result they could spin as positive.
One of the most obvious was that they deleted a large number of people from the study that had been vaccinated, they did not include them in the final report, nothing to see here, move along.
https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/04/peter-doshi-pfizer-and-modernas-95-effective-vaccines-we-need-more-details-and-the-raw-data/
The scale of deception is staggering but nothing out of character for Big Pharma; What’s more interesting is the political headroom these people have been given to work in. I think this is merely what happens when you waiver the liability of crime syndicates masquerading as pharmaceutical companies. They’ll hit the rocks very soon I’m sure of it – didn’t Pfizer CEO sell his stock just before they got ‘approval’?
In any other sphere of operation and in any other era there would be only one word for that practice – fraud.
And no public discussion for FDA approval of this data, as was promised.
Because it should have been asked, publicly.
All part of China Joe’s sneaky plan to divide the American public so that is no appetite for retaliatory action when China invades Taiwan.
Don’t throw that thread in, I’m already in a tangle! 🧶
This is how you start a new religion. You get a parent to sacrifice his child. Except the stakes get higher and higher.
Abraham was asked to kill Isaac but was stopped in the last minute. He just needed to show he could do it.
God sacrificed Jesus to a horrific death, to save us all as.
For this new religion, it’s vaccine Russian Roulette. Everyone has to gamble their children’s lives and several kids will die.
These psychos have done their homework.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch is the globalist god
You gotta have some kind of figurehead to hang your depravity on, this guy seems a perfect candidate. All hail Moloch! 🐂
I’ve said it before but it bears repeating:
Satistically speaking, this disease poses no risk to children, and thus the risk from inaction is zero. When there is zero risk from inaction, then any risk from intervention is completely unacceptable. This is axiomatic. It is a self-evident truth. There’s no wriggling out of it.
Now, the only ‘argument’ these evil bastards can fall back on is the ‘transmission’ argument, but even granting that children are a stastically significant driver in transmitting the virus to others (which I do not grant), when did it become acceptable practice to sacrifice children?
Moreover, invoking the ‘transmission’ argument once again contradicts the narrative of ‘vaccine efficacy’ in ‘minimising serious illness.’
These utter lunatics literally have no good argument in favour of injecting children with a novel and experimental ‘vaccine’. Not one. So how the hell are they getting away with this?
Beautifully put and I have absolutely no idea. The world doesn’t even make the slightest sense any more!
Judging from yesterday evening, the world is doing fine. Just its reflection in many mainstream media outlets has become very odd.
What do you expect from people who argue that objectivity is nothing but an inherently racist social construct? Rational behaviour? This is a bunch of lunatics convinced that the world will become whatever they claim about it, ie, convinced that they can work magic (roughly identical to causing things to change in response to words of power).
As to How are they getting away with this?, the answer is clever propaganda.
It’s like a language based cargo cult
I don’t know about others, but I’m watching this “story.” A U.S. college football player – almost certainly vaccinated – was rushed to the hospital late in a game last Saturday. He spent six nights in the hospital although he apparently didn’t suffer any observable and play-related injury during the game. Obvious question: Did this young athlete suffer a cardiac-event related to myocarditis related to his vaccination? No details have been “disclosed” except for the fact this player will not be allowed to participate in sports the rest of the year (which is what doctors order for those with diagnosed myocarditis). Now remember that these athletes are being forced (or certainly coerced) into getting vaccinated. Also, every person keeping up with COVID topics knows of studies that show an elevated risk of myocarditis especially among young males. More significantly, EVERY athletic official must know of these studies by now. When do serious health events typically happen for those with myocarditis? Answer: When athletes’ heart rates are elevated due to strenuous athletic activity and exertion. Which is exactly what happens in games and practices. When officials – charged with “protecting” student athletes – ignore such risks and knowingly place others at… Read more »
A few details from article: “(Coach) Fleck declined to reveal any specifics about what happened to the third-year player, who left the field late in the fourth quarter Oct. 3 at Purdue without any obvious sign of trouble. Fleck praised the effort and expertise of the medical staff for quickly determining Potts needed to go to a hospital after the initial evaluation on the sideline became a “really scary” situation.”
This was not a typical football injury.
You’d have thought that all prominent individuals would be given saline wouldn’t you? The desperation to inject literally everyone is one of the most baffling aspects of all this. Unless chaos and disorder is the aim.
I believe Christian Eriksen’s on pitch heart attack in the Euros was related to a Covid vaccine.
The ‘fact checkers’ say that it wasn’t, but Eriksen has yet to state himself that he hadn’t received a vaccine before his heart attack. Why not? Surely he’d want to clear up any ‘anti vaxx’ sentiment.
PHE state “Vaccine effectiveness is estimated by comparing rates of disease in vaccinated individuals to rates in unvaccinated individuals.”
Using that definition, and their own data reported today, for those in their forties, case rates are now more than double in the vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated .
Taking the adult population as a whole, the rate per 100,000 in the vaccinated is now considerably higher than in the unvaccinated.
And every week it is getting worse.
Findings from Qatar confirm the same, that vaccine efficacy against infection turns, and stays, negative after 4 months from the second dose.
Your mention of Qatar rang a bell.
About 2 days ago I was reading the official advice that the OMT gave to the Dutch Min. of Health of 11 October 2021. It was quoting various sources indicating efficacy against hospitalisation remained high – the Lancet (right), the CDC (riiiigghhht), indicating continuing high efficacy, but Israeli data showing decreasing efficacy. It then mentioned Qatar, but all it said was “the picture is less clear”. I remember when I read that thinking what point are they trying to make. The first 3 references were clear, the one to Qatar didn’t in any way indicate the point being made – for or against efficacy. Now I see why…
😂 ‘The picture is less clear’ is exactly the kind of thing one of the BBC’s ‘Health Correspondents’ would say when inconvenient facts intrude on a nicely cultivated propaganda fantasy.
I’ve put Aunty Jen in detention for being precocious and unfocused.
Such negativity, you BTL lot! Come on, guys, get with the program. Otherwise I’ll sic President Duterte on to you. The human rights zealot has just said that individuals hesitant to receive a Covid vaccine should be injected whilst asleep: “If they don’t want to (get the Covid vaccine], let’s go to their house. Let’s vaccinate them at night … and vaccinate them while asleep” (Gold Coast Review).
Duterete didn’t clear the streets of Manila of its drug problem just to have a load of unvaccinated vermin take over.
As he might have said – ‘Get the shot …. or get shot’
This poor old man must step down. Everyone knows children are at extremely low risk 99.997%. Why would you give a child this Tx when their risk of serious adverse event or death is greater? That makes no sense.
Whenever I see an article about Biden I keep hoping it’s going to saying the stupid, evil old bastard is dead.
No such luck again…
Quite frankly any parent subjecting their child to this obscenity masquerading as a Vaccine needs certifying. The idiots behind it all need stringing up. It is plain sick and totally unnecessary. How many children will die from not Vaccines?