Government Wants to Make Covid Vaccination Mandatory for All Frontline NHS Staff
Reports suggest that Sajid Javid, who recently expressed hesitancy about “taking away people’s freedom” with vaccine passports, is keen to force all frontline NHS staff to get vaccinated against Covid. A decision on whether NHS staff, like care home workers, should be told to “get jabbed or get another job” is expected to be made later this month. i news has the story.
A formal consultation on making Covid and flu vaccination a condition of employment in the NHS is due to end on October 22nd, and the Health Secretary is ready to act swiftly to implement the change, i has been told.
Following a change in the law enacted this summer, staff in care homes have until November 11th to get double jabbed for Covid, after which point they will be legally barred from work without vaccination.
The Department for Health and Social Care (DHSC) has separate but similar plans to require all NHS frontline staff to be fully vaccinated – unless they have a medical exemption.
Javid is privately furious with the risk that unjabbed NHS staff pose to vulnerable patients when working in both hospital and in community settings. [Privatley? He seems to be fairly open about this.] …
He is understood to want to be “even more hardline” with health service staff than with care home staff, not least as they are directly employed by the state rather than by private providers.
While no one in Government wants to publicly pre-empt the consultation, it is understood that Boris Johnson is fully behind Javid’s belief that unjabbed health staff pose a risk to the most vulnerable
Javid also wants to offer extra reassurance to vulnerable patients that they can enter hospital and be sure that all those around them are double jabbed.
There is also a concern in government that unjabbed care home staff, who are barred from working with patients from next month, have been moving into the NHS.
The vast majority of NHS staff have been double jabbed. Latest weekly figures for England show 1,326,000 have had a first jab (92%), 1,277,000 (89%) have had a second jab. But 8% have not had any jab at all.
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Can the 8% of “unstabbed” NHS staff just leave and form a “free for all/no discrimination” service – might be a winner.
Especially if they did things like, I dunno, answered phones or saw patients?
It’ll never catch on
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You’re going too far.
Is that what they do in other health services?
Well I’m damned.
If only. And before they do, can they please let rip when they leave on the truth and what has really being going on…
I will not be resigning. They will have to sack me, and then I intend to sue them. Don’t make it easy for the fuckers.
Fabulous. Remind them, which I am sure you will, that if the ‘vaccine’ works and the vulnerable are ‘vaccinated’, then they are protected. If it doesn’t protect them, then what’s the point and you being ‘vaccinated’ won’t help.
Exactly.
The same applies to anyone who is threatened with “no jab no job”.
It’s the only way to attempt to stop this.
Already the unjabbed are beginning to break up snd form their own safe havens. Their are those who want to go back to commune living and those who want to create a society whereby we look after each other and provide help and barter services. There is a strong underlying shift even among those who will give succour to the very sick jabbed folk and those who see them as the enemy and will leave them to die.
We will see too, those who will run for the hills and those who will clean up the mess. Believe me, there is a HUGE cosmic shift going on in this world. The biggest clash of spiritual strength and satanic evil is upon us and those who will not see this are those who will suffer deeply.
Yes, there’s going to be plenty of work for care home assistants and sacked nurses in private homes, as people choose not to put relatives in them because they might not see them again. People are also clearly choosing to die at home. Those able to spend will spend on this.
Those who are poor will not see their very sick husbands and wives and parents in homes of course, as usual they will suffer,
Beautifully stated!
Unfortunately, they’ve got the weapons.
Based on the old system of a doctor and his nurses living and tending their small communities and in turn those communities provided him with a house, a car and a good living wage. When a national service was suggested very many ordinary saw it as losing their cottage hospitals and their ability to get to the ‘national’ hospitals. Once again they were not listened to and we ordinary folk are paying the price as predicted by our ancestors
I wish. But insurance? Licence? They’d be nobbled as soon as they began…
As Maajid Nawaz said, one way to create the NHS crisis that the goverment uses to make vaccine passports mandatory is to sack a large number of health workers who won’t take the vaccines.
If this was a dangerous pandemic, we wouldn’t sack health workers. We’d need all hands on deck.
If this had been a real pandemic hospital admissions would have been higher, as would deaths from this virus (rather than with) and they would have used the hospitals they built and wasted all our taxes on. The CDC admitted a long time ago that deaths from Covid were only about 6% of the true figures being put out. If we take the same figure and do the maths, well hardly worth a mention. And flu never disappeared the NHS were told to not test for it (according to a nurse who has spoken out) so how many Covid deaths were actually flu which always kills many every year.
They definitely were not testing for flu at my partners hospital, all testing capacity used on covid tests.
Don’t think it is as simple as that; PHE/SAGE/HMG/MHRA are mired up to their necks in a demonstrably – and growing daily – false, lying narrative. “They” are far too deep in this shitehole – it is all about “saving face”and careers now but they have not got to the point where they have, for them, a viable “get out” route so these decisions to sack people in vital settings appear to be sheer desperation. The same appears to be the case with the rhetoric from Biden, Macron and Merkel, she of departing non-wisdom.
Signs of the cult of CV19 lockdown hysteria cracking in Aus/NZ but suspect too soon…unless the Ashes tour in Aus is used as a veneer of an excuse to strip back some of the draconian powers and actions “enable a sporting icon to go ahead”……..another Trojan horse effect.
Don’t see a corporate/public sector CEO level/Head of Quango level mea culpa anytime soon and most definitely not this side of late Spring 2022.
Given the difference between vaccine immunity and natural immunity, I would much prefer anyone treating me to not be vaccinated.
The NHS email I got confirming I had antibodies after a nasty bout of covid seemed to imply that natural immunity creates a wider variety of antibodies than vaccines.
Since I haven’t been jabbed, both of these antibody types were produced by my immune system, but vaccines only generate antibodies for the spike protein.
So they know that there’s a difference between covid induced immunity and vaccine induced immunity but they’re not allowing for that in their pro-vaccine policies.
of course. Anyone who knows anything about immunology knows this. we have ONE immunes system but many and varied immune responses – broad is best. Pfizer scientists say this and the world censors the story. But yes, it’s obvious and true and undeniable.
Except by the natural immunity deniers.
You bet they know. Here’s a great moment could on video:
https://youtu.be/Uj2Ia9GlIM4
Excellent – thanks for sharing, WC.
I wonder how long that will be up on YouTube.
They don’t really have pro-vaccine policies – they have pro-vaccine passport policies as a staging post to digital ID etc
Exactly, especially given that the infected injected carry a viral load up to 251 times that of the non injected.
Can you help me with a source for that? I want a couple for when I fill in the HMG consultation on ‘Plan B’ vaxxports – I asked yesterday in the following link what people made of the supposed rebuttal of the 251% claim by the study authors:
https://staging.dailysceptic.org/2021/10/05/no-good-reason-to-introduce-vaccine-passports-right-now-says-sajid-javid/#comment-603492
Thanks!
The viral load was 251 times (not 251%) what had been typical of the original Wuhan strain. It was from a study of vaccinated Vietnamese healthcare workers who appeared, judging by the particular strain they had, to have infected each other. The high viral load may indeed be characteristic of delta, the real significance of that study was:
Thanks so much for the correction and insights. Apparently there was commentary on this from Dr Peter McCullough here from his 1 October show beginning around the 43m mark: https://media.blubrry.com/voiceofanation/ins.blubrry.com/voiceofanation/COVID_Q_A_with_Dr_Peter_McCullough_5.mp3 https://www.americaoutloud.com/covid-q-a-with-dr-peter-mccullough-5/ Same show but slightly off-topic in this thread but of interest: (A) on child vaccination: @40:28 30 he references a Paper dd. 30 August by Tracy [sp.] Hoeg, Univ Calif. Davis at Sacramento: SARS-COV-2 Messenger Vaccination associated with mild carditis or heart damage in children ages 12 to 17 – a stratified national database analysis, conclusion: a child with the vaccines is more likely to get heart damage and be hospitalised than get hospitalised with COVID-19 itself. Also @41:09 Ronald Kostoff Paper “Why are we vaccinating children against COVID-19”? (B) reminder re: HMG consult on Plan B Vaxxports, comments by 11.45pm 11 October: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/proposal-for-mandatory-covid-certification-in-a-plan-b-scenario “Under Plan B, in certain settings: mandatory vaccine-only certification could be introduced for all visitors aged 18 or over; members of the workforce aged 18 or over in these settings could then be required to test regularly, if they are not fully vaccinated.” Frankly all the published studies and data from plausible sources one can still only find online and which never seem to get… Read more »
This is exactly the sort of thing where we need an alternative society. Now if we could have a fool proof system where people who had been forced out of care or the NHS could be asked by friends (or people recommended to them as friends) as a private favour, with these people quietly reimbursing the carers/nurses for their trouble by various means (providing them with a service of their own perhaps?), maybe the talents of carers and nurses could avoid going to waste completely.
Can they please explain why any other person’s medical status is any concern of mine?
It’s not, But your status is their concern.
Four downvotes? I would have thought my sarcasm would be familiar to most DS followers by now!
There’s a distressing amount of knee-jerk groupthink here. Decrying Branch Covidians for being sheep and NPS and then piling on to negatives is rather sad.
Inflation strikes….. you now have more votes down 🙁
Here’s some twat that needs some serious ‘downvoting’:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpCxpmegbnE
Downvoted.
It may have been meant satirically, but even so, it was awful.
S.45E Public Health Act 1984 says that NO medical treatment – specifically including jabs – can be made mandatory.
Unfortunately, although the CoViD19 laws are based on this they don’t comply with it. Under the 1984 act all aspects such as quarantine require a magistrate to authorise interventions.
Playing the Devil’s Advocate (somewhat literally): “They’re not mandatory, they’re merely a new condition of employment.”
There’s that word again; ‘mandatory’. Mandatory is legalise – it’s not law. It can’t be enforced. They use it because they know they can’t ‘make’ anyone take it and they can’t legally sack anyone – it’s all coercion. The best option is for these employees to refuse stating their reasons and if they’re sacked, sue them for every penny they can.
Manda-TORY! Says it all, really.
I’m possibly just being thick, but I couldn’t find the Act of that exact name – though I did find this:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/22/section/45E
Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984: Power to make regulations
If correct, then OK – I’m better informed – but no wiser! Has anyone got a ready reckoner that tracks through that impenetrable skein of secondary legislation!?
Can the idiots in charge rebut any of the accusations in this article?
https://www.uncommonwisdom.online/post/it-was-always-a-con-the-covid-debacle
Nope. The data from Israel (https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.39.2100822) very clearly shows ZERO benefit from vaccinations against either infection or transmission. This is unscientific garbage.
I was criticised by some here for calling this attitude – and those who act on it – “inhuman”, and for insisting that these acts should not be forgotten and the likes of Javid should not be forgiven for them.
But I stand by that.
The likes of Johnson and Javid should not be allowed to walk away from these acts, that are destroying the careers and lives of decent people, in years to come when the heat is out of the issue and they (inevitably) call it “old news” and insist we “move on”, because other issues dominate the headlines and the political disputes of the day.
Because assuredly that is what will happen. It’s what the supporters and enablers of the Iraq outrage did, mostly successfully.
If and when they ever make an honest and full repentance, and are out of office and out of any position to inflict further harms of this kind, then they can be forgiven personally. Until then, never forget and never forgive. Forgiveness prior to that would not be an act of Christian virtue, but a betrayal of those whose lives they have destroyed to further their political careers.
Blair got away with his crimes. The establishment protects its feeders. No one will pay for the covid hysteria, except us of course.
Most likely. But that’s not sufficient reason not to adopt the correct attitude towards the perpetrators.
Sir John Chilcott, RIP
I won’t forgive because my inalienable rights that people have fought and died for are not to be throttled up and down to manage demand in the health service
Not long ago, we promised we would never forget them. and that we would never allow the same to ever happen again
I will NEVER, EVER forgive and forget those responsible for these crimes against humanity, against the world.
What has been set in motion is growing misery, suffering, destitution, hunger, homelessness, burgeoning and spiralling debt and probably even civil conflict perhaps leading to war.
Never Forgive. Never Forget.
EVER.
They should be tried for treason – and receive the suitable punishment for that crime. You know what I’m talking about.
Still, no-one has actually done anything about it so far.
Not even a protest outside Michie’s house.
Indeed, but sadly the death penalty is no longer the ultimate penalty, even for treason. It was scrapped by, guess who, Tony Blair in 1998 under the Crime and Disorder Act. One of the first things he did. Hmmm. Strange that.
I donmt think Jesus told us ti forgive the Devil.
Inhumane would be a better word.
Barring those responsible from politics for life if it’s cockup, imprisoning them for life if they are found guilty of knowingly being complicit in crimes against humanity etc., if that’s what is meant by not forgiving them, would not be an issue for me.
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The “vaccines” are the tool to get us there, while funnelling money to Davos and its creatures.
Presumably there are maternity units now delivering babies conceived since their parents (working in the NHS) had received both jabs.
So we can soon expect the jabbers to give us the ‘informed consent’ information that lets us know that the ‘vaccines’ are safe.
Or maybe, because reports are emerging in Spain of a ‘Downs-like but not Downs’ condition similar to chromosome 21 abnormality, there will be a misinformation campaign by the Government blaming mothers for the damage to their babies.
Look how long it took the Thalidomide victims to get any kind of justice for the harm caused to them
Part of the pushback here is new unions. A new union for nurses started in Queensland, and is now gaining membership across Australia.
NPAA.
Excellent
“… it is understood that Boris Johnson is fully behind Javid’s belief that unjabbed health staff pose a risk to the most vulnerable…”
It is a belief – blind faith – because there is no scientific evidence supporting the contention. Perhaps Javid should take a look at the Testimonies Project video.
But do either of them actually believe it, really? Or is it just an excuse? They’ve become addicted to ‘doing something’, as in many countries – it’s only a few such as Norway and Denmark which seem to have pulled back from this stance.
And it’s now so blatant that they know they can get away with ‘doing something’ even when the ‘something’ clearly cannot ever achieve what they claim is its purpose.
Of course they don’t believe it. They are evil liars.
Surrounded by bodyguards.
Thousands of front line health staff refuse the vaccine because they have seen first hand the damage it can do.
Masky Mark McClown, High Pontiff of The Western Lands, has decreed that all mining minions must have their first jab by December 1.
Not sure how that will work out. But MMMcC has been rather quiet lately about the health system, having been very firm on the line that nurses etc had to be vaxxed once at least by mid September.
The Health Minister has reportedly claimed 90 percent of them took the jab. I’m skeptical. If the government had achieved that sort of success with nurses it would be all over the front page of The West Australian for a week.
Just following the script now. Make sure they are understaffed in already understaffed hospitals so when the next virus comes the PTB can point at overwhelmed hospitals that absolutely necessitates Plan B in the Build Back Boris priorities.
And as usual, not a word about Natural Immunity proving to be more durable, effective and safe than any experimental cocktail.
I think I’m going to have to stop paying anymore attention to this total shitshow. Time to focus all my attention to preparing for the Winter and the upcoming orchestrated clusterfuck in the economy, food, petrol, electricity, bank and debt bubble bursting and the next crisis.
+1.
And also as usual not a word about preventive and early palliative strategies involving cheap and freely available (in India etc – not here) otc medicines like Ivermectin and use of supplements like Zinc Sulphate, NAC, Vitamins C and D, Quercetin etc etc. Check out Dr Peter McCullough’s written materials and his podcast:
https://www.americaoutloud.com/category/podcasts/the-mccullough-report/
This drive to leave the infected untreated bar some paracetamol at home until the ill are so poorly it’s a toss up whether they live or die, popped onto ventilators that kill them, while all along treatments were and are available, must go down as the greatest genocide of this 21st century so far.
The next one may be the “vax” itself. We shall see….
One thing we may all be assured of: to quote an old internet meme, “They bill you to kill you”.
Javid is privately furious with the risk that unjabbed NHS staff pose to vulnerable patients
Is he an idiot? Does he not understand the basics? Jabbed and unjabbed can both transmit and catch the virus. Is it possible to have a Health Secretary who grasps this simple point?
He’s clearly not an idiot – probably actually one of the most intelligent of the current cabinet – and it’s therefore very, very difficult to credit his claims.
“difficult to credit his claims?”
Not if you understand the real agenda.
Doubt he’s stupid enough not to understand exactly what’s going on
They hate unjabbed people and want to eradicate us from the face of the earth because we undermine their evil narrative
Not only ‘unjabbed people’. In Israel your ‘passport’ expires six months after your ‘last jab’. Millions have just had their passports cancelled, though they compliantly had two jabs, and are now classed with the unvaccinated scum.
In this game of snakes and ladders, this is a pathway that you can’t get off without serious hardships, but which many can’t stay on without serious harms.
It has nothing to do with health: compliance is what they demand.
Pfizer told the FDA that, after a few months, the effectiveness of their vaccine was ‘not significantly statistically different from zero’. This admission, based on observations from Israel, was designed to push the FDA into authorizing the third shot in the USA. They want the whole world to become cash cows for the rest of their (now shortened) lives.
And then, when the vaxxes prove definitively useless and they’ve eliminated their favourite scapegoat, what next?
Frontline staff working in hospitals are NOT employed by the state. Hospitals are trusts who contract their services to the NHS, if they were state employees then there wouldn’t be a three month delay when changing between hospitals. Also if it includes urgent care centres, then these are employed by private companies. What about agency staff?
You can change between hospitals?!
The education system is in disarray, the police service is broken, the care system will be broken very soon due to the mandatory vax policy, just the health service to be fully destroyed now and then it will be on with ‘the great reset – build back better’. I would say everything is going according to plan so far.
Doesnt seem to matter to them that it doesnt stop anyone spreading anything, what if they have some other infection? My mother got MRSA in hospital and we just had to hand sanatise.
Still better off washing with soap and water
Create a crisis in the NHS, activate plan B. It’s obvious!
“has been told….it is understood……”
source or be damned. Oh, wait, it’s the InDepends……
and don’t forget folks, this is a classic nudge unit tactic to keep “us” dazed, confused, angry etc….
Simply detach and recognise that this is another of those nudges judicially released by TPTB to their mates in the Fourth Reich and recall how, merely 18 months ago our front line health worker were being clapped and saucepanned (what was their vaxx status back then?)
Javid was double jabbed and caught Covid and probably passed it on but of course nobody mentions the passing on bit. How is the Health Secretary less of a danger in a hospital than I who have had no jabs and will never take experimental drugs?
“Javid was double jabbed.”
Yeah right.
with a vip shot aka saline
I understand that there is a difference between mandatory and compulsory. The difference being that compulsory you have to do it where as compulsory is it’s recommended you do it.
If any legal persons out there what to correct me I’d appreciate it.
Edit please
They are going to wreck care homes with staff shortages with this nonsense, then they will further wreck the NHS, and they will blame the problems on covid and on the unvaxxed, and have ready-made excuses for more restrictions, more vaxxing, more passports, more testing. It’s a dream scenario for them.
All working nicely to the depopulation agenda.
How long before ‘you can’t access healthcare unless you’ve been juiced’?
Err… it’s already happening… look around you!
Sweden halts Moderna injections for those born 1991 or later, citing side effects including heart muscle inflammation, according to public health authorities:
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/nyheter-och-press/nyhetsarkiv/2021/oktober/anvandningen-av-modernas-vaccin-mot-covid-19-pausas-for-alla-som-ar-fodda-1991-och-senare/
it’s so nice of them to still want to kill anyone over 30.
Indeed. Very considerate of them. And Pfizer is absolutely fine with no risk of heart inflammation, apparently.
I simply don’t believe the numbers below. A friend who works for PHE told us in March that they were nearer 40% for NHS staff juiced. Mind you, the thumbscrews have been turned.
Two faces which would benefit from a good hard slap. Smug gits.
First they came for the unvaccinated…
And next, no hospital treatment without the jabs.
I will agree with you on this – in fact. it’s already happening.
Some if these NHS people must actually know what they are being forced to do.
I hope they know some good lawyers..
Care workers were an easy target. I can’t see doctors going without a fight. Interesting last year they had the lowest flu vac uptake of all in the hospital.