Britain and California. Similar Immigration. Very Different Theology
Matt Goodwin has done it again. Published a book so obviously true, so buttressed by official data, so impossible to refute on the merits, that his critics have been reduced to counting footnotes and sniffing for artificial intelligence. The New Statesman and the usual cordon sanitaire of establishment gatekeepers have responded to Suicide of a Nation the way they always respond to uncomfortable facts – with procedural objections, character assassination and the quiet hope that if they shout “AI hallucination” loudly enough, nobody will notice that the underlying numbers come from the Office for National Statistics.
They will not succeed. The numbers are not Goodwin’s invention. They are Britain’s reality. The proof is 4,000 miles away.
California.
Goodwin’s central projection, anchored in ONS census data, is that Britain’s foreign-born population has already reached nearly 20% – higher than America during the Ellis Island wave. By 2100, the foreign-born and their immediate descendants will constitute roughly 61% of the country, while those who can trace generations of roots on these islands will collapse to just 39%.
He further projects that the Muslim share will rise from roughly 7% today to over 19% by century’s end, meaning close to one in five people in Britain will be following Islam. Cue the smelling salts at the Guardian.
Yet California crossed Goodwin’s demographic threshold in 2000 and, unlike Britain, it is not consuming itself from within. Non-Hispanic whites are already at 35%. The foreign-born share sits at 28% – a third higher than Britain’s current figure and nearly double the Ellis Island peak. California has been the demographic future that British politicians argue about in the abstract for a quarter of a century. It is not a forecast. It is a functioning society with a tax base, a government and a GDP.
That GDP is $4 trillion. The entire United Kingdom generates $3.2 trillion, with 67 million people to California’s 39 million. Median household income in California runs around $91,000 (roughly £68,000). In Britain, it hovers around £36,000. This is not a marginal difference. This is a gap that should cause every commentator who conflates demographic change with civilisational collapse to sit down quietly and think.
As an Englishman who divides his time between Hampshire and California’s Central Coast, I can tell you the gap is not statistical abstraction. It is visible in the infrastructure, the ambition of the young and the quiet confidence of a society that has not yet been told it is finished.
So Why isn’t California a Smoking Ruin? It’s Not Race. It’s Religion!
So what explains it? Why does the demographic transformation Goodwin describes as Britain’s unfolding catastrophe produce the fifth-largest economy on earth in California?
The answer is not race. It is never race, despite what Goodwin’s critics imply he is arguing and despite what certain readers on the wilder shores of the internet prefer to believe. The answer is religion and the social architecture that religion constructs and transmits across generations.
California’s immigrants arrive from Latin America and Asia. They are Catholic, evangelical, Buddhist or secular. They carry a Judeo-Christian socio-economic operating system – reverence for women, obsessive investment in children’s education, the family as the primary unit of social resilience, a religion that allows for the secular and a bone-deep belief that the next generation will do better.
A Mexican grandmother in Fresno and a Korean shopkeeper in Koreatown disagree about almost everything cultural. Yet they agree, implicitly and completely, that girls go to school, that the law applies to everyone, that the host society’s institutions are worth joining rather than replacing.
Rotherham Wasn’t a Coincidence. It Was a Doctrine
Goodwin asks, with characteristic directness, whether Britain really wants to import the political, social and religious cultures of Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan – societies he observes marked by deep ethnic divisions, low institutional trust and fundamentally different ideas about justice, family, sexuality and women’s rights.
It is the right question. The Jay Report answered part of it. Rotherham. Rochdale. Bradford. The common denominator across every grooming gang scandal was not poverty, not deprivation, not the generic social failure that progressive commentators reach for when they need to explain away organised evil. It was a specific imported doctrine that sorted girls by religion and left British girls unprotected – deliberately. That is not deprivation. That is doctrine.
The British state, for decades, agreed to look the other way rather than say so.
There is no California equivalent. Latin American Catholicism – for all, in my humble opinion, its faults – does not produce a theology of female categorisation by faith. It does not generate parallel community structures that operate outside the law while demanding its protections. It does not fill prison wings. California has gang violence. It has cartel networks. It has serious, structural crime problems. What it does not have is an imported religious framework that provides ideological cover for crimes against women and children while simultaneously demanding that the host society celebrate its presence as enrichment.
The Only Thing Keeping Bradford Safer Than Baltimore is the Difficulty of Buying a Gun
On crime more broadly, the comparison cuts in an unexpected direction. California’s homicide rate is approximately 5.6 per 100,000. Britain’s is 1.1. This appears to vindicate the declinists. It does not.
London, as ethnically and religiously diverse as any American city, has a homicide rate of 1.2 per 100,000. The violence gap between California and Britain is not demographic. It is ballistic. America has guns. Britain does not. Strip the firearms out of the American data and the civilisational gap largely disappears.
Hold that thought. Make it darker. Between 2018 and 2025, nearly 200,000 illegal migrants crossed the Channel. An estimated 700,000 to 900,000 are already here. Every one of them moved through criminal smuggling networks the state cannot disrupt and dare not name.
Now imagine that those networks, and the broader communities of unvetted arrivals they service, had access to the same hardware available to Chicago or Compton. Imagine Bradford or Bayswater with Kalashnikovs as freely available as they are in parts of Baltimore. The relative safety of the British street owes more to its gun laws than to its immigration policy – one the Government chose deliberately, the other it lost control of entirely. Britain is not managing the consequences of its immigration failure. It is merely being spared the most lethal of them, for now, by the difficulty of acquiring a firearm.
Trump is Doing What Starmer Cannot Even Say
Meanwhile, in America, Trump’s enforcement crackdown is producing numbers that make the Home Office look like a lost property office.
Border crossings are down 93% year on year. Fentanyl trafficking at the southern border has been cut by half. ICE has made more than 7,000 gang arrests and removed over 1,400 known or suspected terrorists. More than 2.5 million illegal aliens have left the United States, including an estimated 1.9 million self-deportations and over 622,000 formal deportations.
One may dislike Trump’s aesthetics, his social media feed and his obnoxious and toxic behaviour. Yet these results are not nothing. Britain has no equivalent mechanism, no political will to build one and a Home Office that has spent the better part of a decade mislaying people it promised to remove. There are an estimated 700,000 to 900,000 illegal migrants already present in Britain. Nobody in Whitehall appears to know where they are. Nobody appears particularly bothered.
Britain is importing something different – a theology with a different view of women, a different view of law, a different view of whose side God is on. The number one boy’s name in England is no longer Noah. It is Muhammad. In California, the most popular names include Santiago, Sebastian and Jesus.
That is the difference. That has always been the difference. The girls abused in Rotherham, Rochdale, Oxford and Telford were not victims of men named Noah or Jesus. They were victims of a specific theology. Britain’s political class knew. It said nothing.
The Footnote Police Can Stand Down
Goodwin’s critics want to talk about footnotes. The public wants to talk about what is actually happening to their country. Suicide of a Nation is imperfect, polemical and written at speed. So was Thomas Paine’s Common Sense. The establishment hated that too.
California got lucky in the cultural composition of its transformation. Its immigrants brought Judeo-Christian values, family structures and economic ambition into a society whose institutions were compatible with all three.
Read Suicide of a Nation. The footnotes. The AI allegations. The pearl-clutching from the New Statesman. Then think carefully.
Some say Goodwin is dangerous.
He’s not dangerous. He’s accurate. In Britain today, those are the same thing. A country that spent 30 years pretending Rotherham wasn’t happening does not get to lecture anyone about intellectual rigour. It just doesn’t. And on that bombshell…
Clive Pinder is an English writer and broadcaster who splits his time between Hampshire and California. He has lived long enough in both places to know that the truth is rarely popular and never early. He writes at clivepinder.substack.com.
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I’m not sure it can be simplified quite like this but some of it seems plausible.
Take a look at the GDP per capita of Pakistan, Turkey and Mexico.
From what I read, I would not like to live in certain parts of California (though to be fair the same goes for the UK).
Trump is “toxic and obnoxious” apparently. Maybe. I find Keir Starmer “toxic and obnoxious”. Actually name any political leader and the odds are I will find them obnoxious.
Every time I hear Keir Starmer speak I understand Trump derangement a little better.
I have to switch it off. It’s an assault on my nervous system.
With respect to politics I exist almost entirely inside a DS and Lockdown Sceptics bubble. I can’t remember the last time I heard Starmer or any of the others speak.
Lucky.
It’s intentional – limited time and to preserve my good mood. Probably I am burying my head in the sand.
Yes I know – even the sight of the creature… and that voice.
I think he should be renamed Sir Trigger.
California, like rest of USA, does not have a welfare state. While some welfare exists, like food stamps and Medicaid, it is nowhere near as generous as in the UK.
Immigrants who go to the US don’t go for the welfare, they know they will have to work, but immigrants coming to the UK come for the welfare automatically available by Statute the minute they cross the border – legal or illegal. They know they don’t have to work – ever – to live like kings in comparison to life in the shithole they left.
Yes that’s a good point
Britain is also not built by immigrants as these islands have been settled by the same people for at least 1,600 years. The US is built by immigrants that came from Britain and other European countries. We are not in need of immigrants.
Thanks for reading and your comments. For the record I too find Starmer ‘toxic and obnoxious’ and Zack Polanski even more so. Proving political affiliation is no barometer for moral code.
Well, I think there’s a distinction to be made between the manners and rhetoric and what they actually do. I don’t much worry about the former – it’s the latter that matters to me. To that extent, I am broadly in favour of much of what Trump has DONE (other than the questionable escapade with Iran) and very much not in favour of most of what Starmer does and what Polanski proposes.
As for moral code, I just think it’s a fantasy to believe that anyone who seeks this kind of power would have much of a moral code. If their power was properly limited, that would not matter so much. I certainly would not RELY on any of them having much in that area.
Apart from the fact that I don’t think Goodwin has made excessive use of AI, so what if you disagree and think he has? Use AI to try to refute his book and see how far you get. Put some effort in and maybe you’ll make some sales. Even better, you might give other people who disagree with Goodwin some tools to enter into debate rather than just screeching insults.
Thanks for reading. For the record nowhere did I endorse or find relevant the claims against Goodwin’s use of AI, which he himself admits to. Used judiciously it is a useful research, editing and productivity tool.
Goodwin is right.
The UK is heading towards a Caliphate.
California is now Mexifornia in large areas.
Both policies and impacts on the state/country are wrong.
There solved it.
Can we just all agree Islam is not nice and messes countries up?
I mean the evidence is pretty strong. And before anyone points me towards Dubai or Abu Dhabi, what makes those places ok is precisely the non-Islamic bits, the bits they’ve copied from developed non-Islamic western nations.
I see Islam a bit like marijuana. If people want to indulge in it, fine. Live and let live. But let’s not pretend it’s generally good for you. And if everyone makes it a big part of their lives, we’re stuffed.
It not just Islam, it’s the tribal societies that embrace it. Tribalism brings its own problems – rivalries and conflict, authoritarianism, instability. Add the two and the mix is not compatible with organised, non-tribal, democratic (formerly) societies like ours.
Honestly, I’m not sure. I really think it’s Islam.
Tribalism in and of itself isn’t inherently bad, I don’t think. I can think of plenty of examples that I have no problem living with. Like strong even fanatical support of sports teams. Even religions. Take scientologists or mormons. Pretty wacky, but overall seem pretty harmless.
If I think about it, my attitude to groups – or tribes – is kind of similar to that of individuals. If they go about their business and leave me alone, I have no problem with them.
This is not something that can necessarily be said about Islam.
Tribes as in ethnic rooting – not competing darts teams. Look at Africa, the history of the Red Indians. Religions? How about the English Civil War, two centuries of sectarianism – and have you heard of Northern Ireland, at all, at all?
At independence India fell into bloody civil war. Pakistan was created West and East, both Muslim populations.
In the 1960s civil war broke out between West and East, because West Pakistanis were majority Punjabi, East almost all Bengali. The East got independence to become Bangladesh.
So it’s not just Islam, although it’s bad enough on its own.
“… California’s Central Coast, I can tell you the gap is not statistical abstraction. It is visible in the infrastructure, the ambition of the young and the quiet confidence of a society that has not yet been told it is finished.”
Which California is that? Not the one where businesses are fleeing or closing, the rich are fleeing, anyone who can afford to do so is fleeing, highest taxes, highest motor fuel prices, high crime rates?
Interestingly, Steve Hilton, David Cameron’s Chief of Staff, & the chap Stuart Pearson the political guru from The Thick of It, is based, may about to become its next Governor.
He’s British by birth, Hungarian by descent, American by choice, with a Google main board director wife bringing home the bacon.
If he manages to upset the odds & hold on to his early polling lead it’ll be interesting to see how much more successful California becomes. I think they’ll be a huge return of their natives.
That’s if you think a governor can significantly redirect a gargantuan, bureaucratic monster like California. Personally I doubt it. But I really hope I get to be proved wrong.
60-40 for Newsom in the last 2 elections – seems like a mountain to climb
I didn’t realise Hilton was a covid sceptic.
Suicide of a Nation is No.6 on Amazon’s chart this week. It’s also available through other retailers, including Waterstones and direct sales from Matt Goodwin’s tour (90 went in Weymouth last week when he spoke at a Reform Party meeting).
So an awful lot of people are buying and reading it.
The lid is off: the genie is out of the bottle and the Establishment is not going to be able to stuff it back in, however much it tries.
It’s the difference between Roman Catholic poor migrants and Muslim poor migrants: the former has a culture whose social and personal ethics correspond with western life and cultural assumptions, the latter do not and want to establish colonies of their own ethos.
This is a very helpful article.