Mahmood Abolishes Non-Crime Hate Incidents
Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood has abolished non-crime hate incidents (NCHIs) after criticism that they were diverting officers into “policing tweets rather than the streets”. The Telegraph has more.
The Home Secretary has introduced new laws revoking the statutory code that dictates how police should investigate and record NCHIs.
Ministers have accepted police chiefs’ conclusions, in a review led by the College of Policing, that the current system was “not fit for purpose” and had undermined freedom of speech and diverted officers from fighting crime.
Next week, the College of Policing and National Police Chiefs’ Council will unveil a new “common sense” system to replace NCHIs, designed to ensure officers only investigate and record incidents relevant to their “core duties” of preventing and solving crime.
An NCHI falls short of being criminal but is perceived to be motivated by hostility or prejudice towards a person with a particular characteristic. The incidents stay on police records indefinitely, and can appear in background checks when people apply for jobs.
The move to scrap them follows high-profile cases such as that of Graham Linehan, the Father Ted co-creator, whose arrest for a series of posts on X was criticised by Donald Trump’s US administration as “a departure from democracy”.
Police forces have also recorded NCHIs against children, including a nine year-old who called a primary school classmate a “retard” and two secondary school girls who said another pupil smelt “like fish”.
The reforms have been set out by Lord Hanson, a Home Office Minister, who told the House of Lords: “The growth of social media in particular, and online polarisation, has drawn the police into disputes that fall outside their core duties.
“Police officers must be able to focus on catching criminals, cutting crime and ensuring public safety, and the present statutory code has not provided the clarity needed to support that focus. It must therefore be revoked.”
He said it would be replaced with a “more appropriate framework” to ensure any incidents recorded by police were “proportionate” and “firmly focused on the most serious” so that police were not drawn into matters where they should not be involved.
“It will do this by tightening the definition of an incident, raising the recording threshold, moving from recording all incidents that are a cause for concern to capturing only those that relate to core policing purposes,” Lord Hanson said.
Under draft guidance drawn up by the College of Policing, NCHIs would no longer be recorded on crime systems, which would mean they would no longer have to be declared as part of checks in job applications.
Incidents that could be recorded will also be more tightly defined to focus on crime. This means they should be “relevant to policing for preventing or solving crime, safeguarding individuals or communities or fulfilling other statutory policing purposes”, according to the draft guidance. …
However, free speech campaigners have warned that a new statutory code was needed to keep police tightly focused on tackling crime rather than spreading into areas they should not.
Lord Young, the Director of the Free Speech Union, said: “The problem with creating the new regime in guidance, unmoored by statute, is that guidance is inherently unstable. It keeps being added to, with different bureaucratic bodies sticking their oars in, and the police end up buried in red tape.
“Remember, the current mess – which everyone acknowledges is unfit for purpose – is a result of ever-more voluminous guidance.
“In my view, setting limits on what ‘non-crimes’ the police can record on their databases and potentially disclose in enhanced DBS checks is properly a matter for Parliament, given its profound implications for freedom of speech. It’s not something that should be left to unelected bureaucrats.”
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Oh FFS! The government and the Police should have no involvement in petty insults between people.
“He said it would be replaced with a “more appropriate framework””
Er, well, don’t we have LAWS? Are they not sufficient?
Common Law: everything is legal unless the Law says it is not. It is the greatest protection possible.
How much more “appropriate” can it get?
The problem has arisen because thanks to that Constitutional Vandal Blair, the Common Law has been superseded by Continental Code Law “framework” where nothing is legal unless the Law says it is. This means things not actually specified as legal are open to arbitrary, inconsistent interpretations including any authority declaring something illegal because there is no law saying it isn’t.
Code Law is the preference for all tyrannies.
Under Common Law “non-crime hate events” cannot exist; under Code Law they can, because PC Plod says so.
I’m very happy about this.
However, I’m not sure I love a system in which a minister make or revoke laws. Not so much the revocation, I’m thinking of how easy it is for another minister to come and reintroduce the law. Should are freedom of expression be subject to the whims of a minister?
“Should are freedom of expression be subject to the whims of a minister?”
Well, according to them, yes, of course it should. So should everything. Look at just about every “law” Labour have invented: easily implemented any way they like by Statutory Instrument.
It’s the New, Improved, 21st-Century Democracy 2.0™, enabling Government to respond flexibly and agilely to the endless crises of our Modern Busy Lives. Why wait for all that old-fashioned debate and Parliamentary stuff, when you can just Click Here and make something Illegal (or, on very rare occasions, legal)?
You’ll be asking for a Constitution and a First Amendment next…
Public Health Act 1984 abused to give us “lockdowns”. Enabling Acts….
“Police forces have also recorded NCHIs against children, including a nine year-old who called a primary school classmate a “retard” and two secondary school girls who said another pupil smelt “like fish”.”
Unbelievable.
Your Mother was a ‘amster, and your Father smelllled of elderberries!
Lucky that the Pythons followed “guidance” from the future in that film: the Plod turn up en masse at the end to put a stop to the silliness and Crack Down on the vile Non-Crime Hatred being perpetrated by the Freeeennnnnch.
Erm… to be fair the historian/narrator had just been bloodily murdered.
Slightly OT, I know, but related to how people are perceived online. There are some apps that I don’t want to pay for or provide details to (not this site, obvs, happy supporter of the FSU). In order to use them, I put up with the pain of occasional thirty second ads, none of which seem to relate to me. Two which do interest me are government ads to encourage people to teach in later life. One features an Asian lady who moves from front line nursing to teach a classroom of nurses, none of whom is white Anglo-Saxon, the other is a bricky who goes on to teach a classroom of lads and lasses, all of whom are white Anglo-Saxon. Why the pigeon hole casting from the government?
Indeed! Terrible. I’d be happy if my brickie turned up as a woman in a niqab, just so long she is wearing steel toecapped boots and a safety hat.
https://vimeo.com/1133088833?fl=pl&fe=cm
This is how to make a complaint to your Council. I share your concern, btw.
Thank heavens we have so many proud Muslims able to fix this broken Christian country.
A stupid piece of legislation has been undone. And she is trying to take credit?
No.
Three Cheers to Lord Toby Young!
…the college of policing will unveil a new ‘common sense’ system instead….
We don’t need anything additional thank you – just apply the laws as they stand
Something worse will follow in the form of a more appropriate framework, of that we can be sure. Not fooled.
Absolutely. When I read the headline “Mahmood Abolishes Non-Crime Hate Incidents”, I thought, “…but not really. Something keeping them will be in the fine print somewhere.”
The only NCHI which matters is now in place, complete with ruling Tsar.
“the College of Policing and National Police Chiefs’ Council will unveil a new “common sense” system to replace NCHIs, designed to ensure officers only investigate and record incidents relevant to their “core duties” of preventing and solving crime.”
This is bad. Just about anything can be justified as “preventing and solving crime.” The standard should be first to show that a crime has been committed.
By applying the existing laws…
It’s a tad Minority Report, isn’t it…
Good to know that not committing a crime has been abolished.
Does this mean we are now required to commit crimes?
The list of absurdities grows. Next they’ll be telling is women don’t have wombs… Oh.
The legislation stating not committing a crime is a crime has been abolished.
Silly walk, anyone?
“Lord Young, the Director of the Free Speech Union, said: “The problem with creating the new regime in guidance, unmoored by statute, is that guidance is inherently unstable. It keeps being added to, with different bureaucratic bodies sticking their oars in, and the police end up buried in red tape.”
Brilliant!
“Shabana Mahmood created history in July 2024 by becoming the first Muslim woman to serve as the UK’s Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice, swearing her oath of office on the Holy Quran”
I was told months ago by a reliable source that this devout muslim was appointed by Sir Kier and Lord Hermer as the slayer of Farage (even GBNews cannot resist her charm). I wonder what Zia Yusuf is going to do about it.
Mahmood may have declared the era of Non-Crime Hate Incidents is over but is it? It’s well known that unconscious bias training courses were stopped by a previous Government. However, in the Foreign Office they still go on as before. What happened was the civil service renamed the courses so as to deceive the Government. Will the police do the same sort of thing and continue as before?
Thanks Shabana, now sort out the boat people.
Whoa, be careful now, the boat people will find that suggestion as being offensive and against their human rights. You could be clapped in irons, to be sure.
Make sure you are wearing thick socks at all times to cushion the inevitable restraints. In fact, it should be against the law not to wear thick socks – in the best interests of the ‘governed’ people, of course – in case a little faux pas should be perceived as having occurred and punitive actions being instigated.
A rose by any other name etc etc – I can’t see the proposed changes / amendments / revised dictatorial rules making much difference. It will still amount to ‘authorities’ interfering with and curbing free speech.
How about now re-classifying shoplifting as theft instead of permitted behaviour for the protected classes.
As we all know, free speech died in this country the day Lucy Connelly went to prison for saying hurty words online. If the government were serious about not policing ‘non hate’ crime it would issue her and others a full pardon and an apology for its over reach into people’s online activity.
“…. the College of Policing and National Police Chiefs’ Council will unveil a new ‘common sense’ system to replace NCHIs,”…. Heaven forfend. These two baleful bodies have been responsible for the lunatic policies governing police conduct. They should be abolished.
Why do we even have them, and who funds them?
But if it’s not a crime, then why are the police involved at all.
Their job is to counter crime not to waste their time trying to predict it!
An another poster said above… it’s all a bit ‘Minority Report’ isn’t it…
A great film by the way – well worth a watch