House of Lords Votes to Scrap Non-Crime Hate Incidents – Piling Pressure on Starmer

The House of Lords has voted to scrap non-crime hate incidents (NCHIs) in a move that puts pressure on Sir Keir Starmer to end their use. The Telegraph has the story.

Peers voted by a 227 to 221 majority to bar police forces from recording, retaining or otherwise processing any personal data relating to NCHIs.

The amendment to the Government’s policing bill would only allow incidents to be recorded where it was required to prevent or detect a crime.

The proposal was put forward by Lord Young, Director of the Free Speech Union, and Lord Hogan-Howe, the former Met Police commissioner, who is chairing the Government’s independent review into cutting the number of police forces.

It coincides with plans by the College of Policing and National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) to recommend scrapping NCHIs, following warnings that recording them undermines freedom of speech and diverts officers from fighting crime.

Police chiefs want to replace them with a new “common sense” system, where only a small fraction of such incidents would be recorded under the most serious category of anti-social behaviour.

It follows high-profile cases such as Graham Linehan, the Father Ted creator, whose arrest over a series of posts on X was criticised by Donald Trump’s State Department as a “departure from democracy”.

The plans by police chiefs are set to be handed later this month to Shabana Mahmood, the Home Secretary, who has signalled her support based on that officers should be policing “streets not tweets”.

An NCHI is defined as an incident that falls short of being criminal but is perceived to be motivated by hostility or prejudice towards a person with a particular characteristic.

However, Lord Young said: “Examples include a man accused of whistling the theme tune to Bob the Builder whenever he saw his neighbour, a woman who said on social media she thought her cat was a Methodist and two schoolgirls who told another girl she smelled like fish.

“It’s hard not to laugh, but for the people who’ve had NCHIs recorded against them, it’s no laughing matter. If you apply for a position or a voluntary role that requires you to carry out an enhanced Disclosure and Barring Service check, an NCHI can show up on your record.

“That’s why I say NCHIs have a chilling effect on free speech. People are rightly concerned that if they say something that another person takes offence at, it can permanently blot their copybook and may prevent them getting a job as a teacher or a carer, or volunteering at a charity like the Samaritans.

“There’s also the broader concern that the amount of time the police are spending on investigating and recording ‘non-crimes’ is undermining public confidence in the police.”

Worth reading in full.

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JXB
JXB
1 month ago

Why not just repeal the Not A Crime, Crime Act?

Oh? There isn’t one? But then how is it “the lawful duty” of a police officer to enforce it?

If only we English had invented The Rule of Law, Equality and Equity before the Law, evolved Common Law and had a standard constitutional reference document – we could call it Magna Carta perhaps – and a Bill of Rights – we could call it The Great Bill of Rights 1689, maybe.

Heretic
Heretic
1 month ago

Fantastic work by Lord Young and Lord Hogan-Howe, and all those who voted for this !!!

It once again shows the genuine value of the House of Lords, though the closeness of the vote is rather shocking, and indicates that 221 members of the House of Lords are either Communist Traitors or Third World Ethnics trying to stitch up The White Man and promote The Great Replacement.

ComradeSvelte
ComradeSvelte
1 month ago
Reply to  Heretic

Exactly, what utter insidious morons voted to retain this utterly dumb bit of woke crap?

Marcus Aurelius knew
1 month ago
Reply to  ComradeSvelte

Half the House of Lords, that’s what

RTSC
RTSC
1 month ago

It was good of them to demonstrate that they’re insidious morons though:)

Marcus Aurelius knew
1 month ago

I feel a surge in popularity of Father Ted

V Detta
V Detta
1 month ago

Well done Lord Young- next fight is the Anti Muslim Hostility nonsense…..

RTSC
RTSC
1 month ago

Well done Lord Young and Lord Hogan-Howe.

Robert Liddell
Robert Liddell
1 month ago

Well done Lord Young. What a work ethic he must have!
Astounding, though, that as many as 221 Lords voted against his motion. What are they thinking about?

Smudger
30 days ago
Reply to  Robert Liddell

Lord Young is a formidable champion of free speech. He has won a battle. But, he has though, far more confidence than I in the machinery of state and the democratic vote winning the war for us.

varmint
30 days ago

Governments think they should be deciding what we “hate” and presumably what we “love”. We are only to have government approved speech and thought. This is supposed to be a victory is it? It only scrapped through by 6 votes.