Oxford Student Who Chanted “Put the Zios in the Ground” to Go on Trial in Two Years’ Time
Oxford University student Samuel Williams, who chanted “put the Zios in the ground” at a pro-Palestine rally in London in October, will not stand trial for another two years. The Mail has the story.
An Oxford University student is due to go on trial accused of allegedly making antisemitic chants at a pro-Palestine demonstration.
Samuel Williams, 21, is accused of stirring up racial hatred at a Palestine Coalition demonstration in Whitehall, central London, on Saturday October 11th.
He was charged last year and appeared before Southwark Crown Court today.
He spoke to confirm his name and plead not guilty.
He was given conditional bail and told a trial date was set for January 17th 2028.
Williams was previously told he was not allowed to take part in Palestine-related protests inside the M25 or in Oxford as part of his bail.
Williams was identified by the Daily Mail after the incident was caught on camera and shared on social media.
“Zio” is an offensive reference to Zionists, and some have interpreted the words as calling for death to Jews.
Speaking through a microphone at the march, the man on camera apparently told the crowd: “A steadfast and noble resistance in Palestine and in Gaza to look to, to be inspired by and – I don’t want to yap for too long – but a chant that we’ve been workshopping in Oxford that maybe you guys want to join in.
“It goes ‘Gaza, Gaza make us proud, put the Zios in the ground’.”
Williams was arrested at a property in Oxfordshire on suspicion of inciting racial hatred following an investigation launched by Scotland Yard detectives.
The philosophy, politics and economics student at Balliol College was also suspended by Oxford University.
Yet somehow Lucy Connolly was in court in under a month. Needless to say, unlike Connolly, Williams is out on bail.
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“Yet somehow Lucy Connolly was in court in under a month. Needless to say, unlike Connolly, Williams is out on bail.”
Yep, that summarizes it neatly.
Maximum leniency for crimes committed for approved, woke, marxist causes.
That’s an inherent feature of the system: If certain speech can be a crime, somebody must make a judgement call what speech is or isn’t such a crime and this will necessarily be a political decision other people can and will disagree with. There are really only to ways to avoid such decisions being essentially arbitrary, namely:
I’m in favour of 2.
Me too
Maybe we could stop conflating followers of the political ideology of Zionism with the followers of the religion of Judaism with the ethnic and genetic heritage of Semitic people? As I understand it, most of the Jewish faithful who moved to the state of Israel are not, in fact, of Semitic heritage and many Jewish faithful, regardless of ethnic heritage, do not support the political ideology of Zionism – which appears to cloak itself in both an ethnic and a religious identity in order to avoid criticism. It would be extremely helpful if, going forward, journalists could speak with extreme clarity about which group they mean and stop muddying the waters with confused terminology.
Clarity is good though I am not sure that everyone would agree with you regarding the origins of the diaspora that have gone to live in Israel in recent decades.
I wasn’t even aware that was controversial to be honest!
https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html
Try posting that opinion in mainstream forums – you may get some pushback. I don’t have a view.
It’s hardly an opinion. Just facts about mitochondrial DNA, however unpopular.
The summary seemed to be that maternal DNA was mainly European and paternal was from Near East. Guess it depends what you want to focus on. And it’s just one study.
Richards and his colleagues analyzed mitochondrial DNA, which is contained in the cytoplasm of the egg and passed down only from the mother, from more than 3,500 people throughout the Near East, the Caucusus and Europe, including Ashkenazi Jews.
This means that the claims (or speculations) wrt to Jews are based on information acquired from less than 3500 people. According to Wikipedia, about 7.3 million Jews are living in Israel. 3500 is about 0.05% of 7.3 million. Someone who makes any claims about a large group based on looking at 0.05% of its members can’t be taken seriously because these claims are based on his ignorance about the overwhelming majority (99.95%) of the people they’re supposed to apply to.
You fact is essentially: We don’t know anything about the mitochondrial DNA of Jews.
You gotta love the Japanese;
”Japanese tourists arrive in Israel proudly singing Hebrew songs and waving Israeli flags.”
https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/2026144846159958511
Is “Zio” actually an offensive reference to Zionists or is it just offensive to Zionists who would rather cast criticism of their ideology as ‘antisemitic’ – whatever that questionable term accurately means.
Those who interpreted the word ‘Zio’ as ‘calling for death to Jews’ are muddling two distinct groups, either from befuddlement or consciously.
I mean, to be fair, he probably has no clue that zionist =/= jew so I assume the distinction is lost on him, but I would hope that speaking out against a murderous political ideology is not automatically interpreted by the Courts as calling for violence against a religious group or an ethnic one. The burden of proof would be upon the state to prove his calls were motivated by hatred of an ethnic or religious group rather than a political ideology.
I think it fair to assume ‘put them in the ground’ is far more likely just rhetorical and means: bring the belief in the political ideology of Zionism to a lasting and final end, not to kill them all which would not be practical or ethical. It is ironic however as we can see so many supporters and sympathisers of Zionism intent on eradicating all Palestinians. ******************* Is Zionism a Dangerous Groupthink? The Shocking Truth Revealed Abstract This essay argues that Zionism, originally a nationalist project of Jewish self-determination, has developed into a paradigmatic instance of mass formation. Drawing on the theories of Gustave Le Bon, Elias Canetti, Hannah Arendt, and Mattias Desmet, the analysis situates Zionism within the long tradition of collective psychological formations that arise under conditions of existential anxiety, atomisation, and loss of meaning. The current intensification of Zionist mobilisation—political, military, and cultural—reveals all the hallmarks of a mass formation in its climax phase: totalising narrative, moral inversion, suppression of dissent, and self-destructive radicalisation. ⸻ I. Defining Mass Formation The concept of mass formation has deep intellectual roots. • Gustave Le Bon in The Crowd (1895) described how individuals, when subsumed into crowds, abandon rationality and moral… Read more »
two tier justice in action. Lucy Connolly and others held on remand in jail, then within weeks or was it days sentenced. This rampant hate filled anit semite, gets to go free for 2 years. But hey everyone is equal under the Law, except when its one of the Labour Party’s pet children
PPE Student? He could be a Prime Minister in 20 years time.
Dear God – no!!
Assuming that there is sound on that video, how can he plead not guilty?
He’s hoping for a woke jury that will refuse to convict.
There will be no jury just a bent judge to release him.
On the same basis that you can be filmed sledgehammering a woman police officer like a baby seal and still be found not guilty? 🤷🏼
Or smashing a young police officer’s nose and still be walking the streets.
Probably because “zionist” is not a reference to either an ethnicity or a religion, it is a reference to a politcal ideology and political ideology is not a protected characteristic. I find it far more offensive and “anti-semitic” to assume that zionist, jew and semite are interchangeable synonyms. They are not.
It was incitement to kill – IWHT illegal whover is mentioned.
Rumour has it he muttered “for all I care” as he passed over the loudhailer. Unfortunately, nobody seems to have caught that bit… 😒
Samuel’s grandparents must be so proud of what their children have spawned.
This idiot disgusts me so much, I am willing to pay for his plane fare to Gaza, so he can put his money where his big ugly mouth is!
I was going to say that any chance of a career shot for the next two years, with that hanging over him… but, upon reflection, he’s probably a shoo-in for something with the Green Party.
I was thinking the same thing, that it would hang over him and he would not be able to sleep at night for worrying about it, but I suspect he’s such an obnoxious tit he will dine out on it for the next two years..
The process is the punishment… that gives him two years to regret being a hate filled eejit.
I think you’re crediting him with a degree of self-awareness which he does not possess.
More proof of the two tier justice system.
And that is 2 tier justice in a nutshell, well pal karma’s a bitch, and you’ll get yours.
The judge will be likely deceased in 2 years.
The difference apart from two tier justice that we have these days is that Connolly pleaded guilty and this cretin pleaded not guilty.
The more important difference is that he got out on conditional bail while Connolly was to be kept on remand until here eventual trial “some time next year maybe.” She was supposed to be punished no matter what and he wasn’t. One can only guess at the actual reason but that it happened because the ruling party tendencially sympathizes with the notion of “Gaza putting Zios in the ground elsewhere” while it absolutely rejects the idea of mass deporting people who immigrated illegally into the UK is probably not far off.
When the government has the power to prosecute people for wrongspeech, wrongspeech will always be something which isn’t compliant with the policy of the government in question, whatever that happens to be.
Lucy C was jailed as an example to anybody who might think of expressing an opinion.
Maybe. But the real problem is that there’s an offence called incitement of racial hatred. Literally, this means nothing and because of this, it can be interpreted to mean anything the government wants it to mean. With a law like that in effect, nobody can safely say anything in public because there’s simply no way to know what a prosecution attorney might consider behaviour that’s likely to stir up racial hatred before such a prosecution attorney has come forward to make that particular claim.
Laws people cannot respect because nobody can tell what they precisely mean mustn’t exist in a supposedly free society.
Possibly readers of Daily Sceptic should familiarise themselves with how zionists treat Jews before assuming this young man is “anti-semitic” or hates Jews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5vDZMKZWzg
That’s a video showing how police in Jerusalem dealt with a certain group of people who protested against getting drafted into the military for religious reasons. There are doubtlessly also religious leaders in Israel who think military conscription is perfectly fine, possibly invoking the biblical conquest of Israel by the Jews as an example and the question who is or isn’t right here can only be decided by God himself.
Apart from that, this show laws of Israel being enforced in Israel and that laws are enforced against Jews in a country whose population is almost ¾ Jewish is not anyhow noteworthy. Of course they are.
Very stupid to chant this but how many innocent 1000’s have the Zios actually put in the ground in Gaza the West Bank Syria, Lebanon in their vision of realising Zion? The zionist controlled press don’t mention this.