Miliband Orders Solar Panels on All New Homes and Blocks Gas Boilers
Solar panels will be fitted on all new houses and gas boilers will be blocked in new homes under a sweeping £15 billion green ‘Warm Homes Plan’ unveiled by Ed Miliband. The Telegraph has the story.
The Energy Secretary on Wednesday launched a £15 billion green energy plan to fit solar panels, heat pumps, insulation and double glazing to five million homes for people on low incomes – all at taxpayers’ expense.
Housebuilders will also be blocked from installing boilers and gas fires in new homes under building regulations to be announced later this year.
Miliband’s ‘Warm Homes Plan’ is one of the Government’s flagship green energy policies, with the budget around four times the size of the BBC’s annual licence income.
A new body, the Warm Homes Agency, will also oversee spending from the fund, making it one of Britain’s biggest quangos.
About £5 billion of the £15 billion will be spent on upgrading low-income homes – deemed to be any with a total annual income below £35,000. An estimated 14 million homes fall into this category.
Another £2.7 billion will be spent providing grants via councils and housing associations with another £1 billion for heat networks.
Some of Miliband’s greatest ambitions are focused on heat pump installations, which will massively accelerate to 450,000 a year compared with 60,000 last year.
Some of that will come from £2.7 billion set aside for Boiler Upgrade Scheme grants, available to all irrespective of income, between now and 2030.
However, this is only enough for 360,000 installations in total – a fraction of the 450,000 per year by 2030 sought by Miliband. …
According to the Warm Homes Plan, there will be no overt “boiler ban” but new rules from the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government later this year will set emission standards too tough for most gas appliances.
The UK adds about 210,000 new homes a year – most of which will now have to be fitted with such low carbon heating, with heat pumps being the likely candidate.
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If you doubted Milibrain’s insanity before, now you have your cast-iron proof. Way, way, way beyond deranged
Insanity? He’s just creat a £15 billion fund. Do you have any idea how much power that gives to the administrators of that fund?
That is what corruption in the modern world looks like. It’s carried out in plain sight and completely legally.
And this is how we’ve got to where we’ve got to. If a significant number of the proletariat believe intelligent, but incredibly dishonest, people are simply incompetent then these same people will carry on being ‘incompetent’. If enough people understood that there’s absolutely no accidental idiocy in the decisions they make then these parasites would be forcibly removed from office. Covid proved that the chances of that happening are a concrete zero.
Yep. Be an archos. There’s no solving it. Fight Club.
I would seriously question intelligent
He is the phony planet saver in cheif but actually the entire Political Class are in on this eco socialist SCAM
If I was offered 100% of the cost of a full heat pump installation (pipes, radiators etc.), I would refuse and pay for a gas boiler myself.
I don’t want one, and I refuse to be blackmailed into getting something I don’t want!
I would rather have a house too hot and turn the heat down, rather than not warm enough and be unable to make it any warmer!
And where is all the electricity going to come from? Where are all the specialised tradespeople going to come from? Where are all the solar panels and heat pumps going to come from?
Miliband is a fu@king mental patient with a god complex, he should be in a straight jacket not the cabinet !
Well the hardware will come from China as the Western world energy costs are too high to produce them anywhere else.
Wonder what pressure was put to get that Embassy through😉
Whereas many gas boilers are currently made in the UK so more job losses?
Nuclear.
Retraining heating engineers
You sound as crazy as Milliband. Heat pumps do work. Gas isn’t infinite. It will run out.
Non of the so called renewables are renewable
A wind turbine can never make enough energy to replace itself ergo, without hydrocarbons heatpumps are not viable let alone infinite!
Hydrocarbons will run out.
Laughable. No one I know with a heatpump is satisfied with its performance.
Gas, like oil, is produced by the Earth itself. It is unlikely to run out.
Gas and oil are the remains of dead creatures? Really?? They all died on the same pockets of land? There is liquid remains, millions of years after they died? Really?? Why don’t we get oil around dinosaur fossils?
Gas and oil are not a result of dead animals. They are produced by the Earth by mineral processes. This is why oil wells have been known to refill.
I know people very satisfied with their heat pump. The earth is finite.
https://mahb.stanford.edu/library-item/fossil-fuels-run/
Nurse, nurse quick get the straight jacket, Milibrain is out and about again. Where are the billions for this scheme coming from – yes an increase in taxes, so energy bill down (but it won’t be really) and taxes up by even more. When I bought my current home, it was built to regulations for disabled people, so wider doors and, bizarrely, small washbasins to allow wheelchairs to negotiate the toilet. Also, the bath has a hot pipe regulator inaccessible under the bath, so the water can’t scold a child. I asked the agent about these and if I could change them. Not before sale, she said but once you own the house, you can put in a proper basin and rip out the regulator. Presumably, new houses will still have a gas supply, so you can have a gas hob for cooking, so if you want to install a proper way of heating your house and getting proper hot water, a decent plumber will do it for you. No one ever talks about cooking?
Probably not. Unfortunately. A number of new builds in our area do not have mains gas though I think there is a supply that could be connected to the houses at a cost.
So no redundancy…
Nope. Electric everything.
Already all electric developments have run into grid supply problems where the developers have been told there will not be sufficient supply anytime soon.
‘all’ , nope.
Yes, they need Three Phase electricity (generally cables are for one phase only) to meet the demand and that requires new cables and wayleave agreements from all the landowners where cables run underground – millions of agreements from millions of property owners and if just one refuses, they are scuppered.So they will have to change the law on that.
Induction hob. Better than gas.
Gas can use any kind of pan including glass. You try aluminium or glass with induction.
had to replace my pans.
Not in my opinion.
No internal pollution. Heat faster. More controllable. Miss the flame, though.
I have heard that new houses no longer have a space in the kitchen for a cooker as air fryers and micro wave ovens are supposed to be the future!
This will kill housebuilding in the UK.
other commentators may refer to this and other government announcements as idiotic or mistaken but they are not; they represent the intentional policies of the socialists who value the opinions of the elites over the people.
Just like during lockdown by pseudo socialists.
Is a genuine socialist better than a pseudo socialist?
How do you tell the difference? Do you have to cut them in half?
Asking for a friend.
That’s £3,000 per home. Solar panels, heat pumps, double glazing and insulation for £3k?
Pure fantasy.
That’ll delay the target of building 1.5 million new homes…
It’s going to be one of those government schemes, announced to much fanfare, where they haven’t done the basic planning and run out of money within a couple of years.
…and then follow the sunk cost fallacy to pour even more borrowed cash into it.
Must have got the brains trust of Diane Abbott and Rachel from Accounts to do the sums.
Quite correct the real cost would be at least 6 times more assuming you can llsolve the practical and logistical problems.
Insane.
Just listened to President Trump’s Davos speech – he didn’t mention any European names but did call people buying wind turbines idiots who have fallen for the green scam – looking forward to Milliband’s response….
Who?
Well, he will tell him, obviously, that it is worthwhile to have a few shivering pensioners, and destroy the entire gas appliance industry and bankrupt a few heating engineers for the UK and him to be able to bestride the world stage, leading the way in net zero carbon elimination. I cannot uptick you for some reason, missing uptick button.
I find tick buttons on iPhone often won’t work.
I find, if you sneak up on it, it seems to work!
Re missing uptick button. I’ve had this problem recently but found if I either log in again / or refresh the page, it eventually reappears.
Err, now I’ve written that, the page has changed and I see that some posts now have the uptick button…and some don’t 🤔😵💫 Gremlins in the works.
We had a workshop on the feasibility of Windmills powering communities, not nations, communities, and ended up laughing. (It’s due to the cubic law of fluid flow.)
This was in 1974, in a Physics undergraduate workshop.
Arts and Humanities graduates think Intelligence is a valid substitute for Knowledge and Experience. That isn’t very intelligent thinking.
And then reality smashed the door down…
…and so the price of second hand houses fitted with boilers will increase and the numbers of new build houses will decrease because they are more expensive.
The law of unforeseen consequences will bite deeply.
Not really unforeseen are they? Such as people bleating on about our obscenely high energy prices. Borrowing £££ to pay healthy people to sit on their backsides, Brexit, mad Net Zero policy, Ukraine (sort of), increasing benefits bill, uncontrolled immigration: all predicted to cause inflation. But no, it’s a mystery.
Brrr… The green Lukewarm Homes Plan.
You mean the expensive cold homes plan?
Suppose the house goes on to be sold to someone on a higer income, will Millitwatt claw back the taxpayer cash in some way?
Well, if the house is inherited then Reeves will put a stop to that!
Heat pumps simply cannot replace gas boilers in most applications. Unless the building has a very high coefficient of insulation they’re pretty much pointless. The man is an absolute imbecile.
Retrofitting is expensive and unlikely to work. If housing is built to have a heat pump it will probably work but how much more expensive will those houses be.
And I argue obscene borrowing to afford a house leading to both parents working full-time, if more, leads to a lot of problems in society. The last thing we need is house prices increasing even more.
We can all agree on that. 100 million immigrants, in my grandsons lifetime, at current rates, is the demand problem driving the supply shortage.
Labour are making a big song and dance about net immigration dropping. It doesn’t need to drop, it needs to be almost zero for a few years whilst we get our heads above water.
It’s what he’s been told to do. PPEs from Oxford aren’t very intelligent.
Yes, the insulation is crucial. Terraced houses, are most suitable for retrofitting.
My 5 year old gas boiler struggles to get the temperature up to 20C if the outside temperature is around zero. In that recent cold snap, it took four hours and thank goodness we’ve got a coal fire. This is a 150 year old stone building without any cavity wall. Not only won’t heat pumps get a terraced house warm, they probably don’t have the space for them out the back.
We had a problem with the electricity supply a couple of years ago and I was chatting with the engineers as they replaced some cabling. They said the main problem was that the existing cabling really wasn’t suitable for the demand on our street. I asked how it would cope if we all had EVs and heat pumps. Just shook his head and said “Not happening – the local substation can’t cope, let alone the old cabling”.
Of course, this article is mainly about new builds and I have no problem with the owners been offered the option of solar panels, subsidised a little bit maybe but not a stupid levels.
All those lucky illegal immigrants get to live in all those lovely new homes with there solar panels and wonderful heat pumps and of course the most expensive electricity in all of Europe (it must be good)…
While I am not an overly religious man, I pray fervently that I live long enough to see this:
What happens if someone on a low income doesn’t want the home they rent to be “upgraded”? I’m quite happy with my gas boiler and definitely don’t want a noisy inefficient heat pump or having to move into temporary accommodation for weeks while my home is gutted to fit larger pipes, radiators, more insulation etc. If I’m given a third of the total cost of making it “energy efficient” as a tax free lump sum I’ll be delighted and everyone’ll be better off.
Isn’t it time someone put him out of our misery?
can’t build new hospitals or even get the roads mended but net zero idiocy; hey no problem funding that!!
We just replaced our old boiler with a new Worcester one: 12 years parts & labour warranty. It’ll out live Miliband’s career by about 17 years.
Yep, insane Millibrain will be gone in ’29 (one hopes sooner)
Solar panels on your roof top cannot provide enough energy to heat your house. They don’t work at night or when the sky is overcast. But, they probably could provide some energy for heat in the summer when you don’t need it. There is simply not enough sun shine (or physical panels on a roof top) to charge batteries for storage of energy too. Solar panels can only be regarded as an add on to other forms of energy. They are an expensive loss leader of dubious value.
True, but better having them on roofs, than in fields and on lakes – that really is madness
How much is the Labour party getting in donations from the suppliers of these goods. We know they get money from wind and solar operators. Corruption pure and simple
Family income less than 35000 will exclude lots on benefits
That man is mentally ill, communist, idiot.. He must be removed from any adult roles.
This communist government is hell bent on destroying rhis country. They are doing severe damage (as National Socialist Labour governments always have done). Out. Out. Out.
And with added remigration, repatriation and deportation.
Besides the insanity and total waste of money, this scheme will push the price of houses up making them even more expensive and unaffordable. And more expensive houses means more stamp duty to pay.
Don’t worry folks. The Labour Party will cease to exist after 2029 and all this numpty’s plans will be reversed. Vote Reform UK 🇬🇧
The biggest ideologiacl moron in Politics, but c’mon, we only have ourselves to blame for falling for the climate crisis eco socialist SCAM by voting for these traitors that are impoverishing us with the the highest electricity prices in the whole world so they ca lick the a..e holes of the UN and WEF Technocrats.
I presume that the requirement to fit heat pumps is intended to kill the new housing market even more than it is now. We can’t have the housing market out of kilter with the rest of the socialist economy.
“Miliband ORDERS” ????? What is he the CLIMATE and ENERGY EMPEROR NOW?
Yet another indirect tax rise. Obscene house prices requiring both partners to work full-time is the cause of many other problems in society. Just read that an increasing proportion are starting school with many basic skills missing like toilet training and feeding. The last thing we need is yet more pressure on house prices.
So let it be written, so let it be done!
Britain is so so no longer a free country!!
The destruction of Britain, taken a step closer to complete failure. In 75 yrs, I have never witnessed a political party destroying their own country and its people. Who do these puppets take their orders from?
This is why all need to get behind the National strike, we all know this lunacy has to stop before we finally go bankrupt as a country, council propertys by nature are shoddily built and insulated and usually let to low income people, so will leave more people in fuel poverty and you cannot put heat pumps on tower blocks, this eejit needs sectioning!!.
I was listening to an episode of “Yes, Minister” recently, where Sir Humphrey suggested that, when drafting an official report, it was best to put the most contentious content in the title, where it would attract less scrutiny. Miliband’s clearly followed that logic with his “Wam Homes Plan”. How will homes that rely solely on heat pumps be warm in the winter?