Dr Roy Spencer’s Backing of UK Met Office Temperature Record Draws Furious Counter Reaction
A bitter row has broken out following Dr Roy Spencer’s backing of the UK Met Office’s controversial temperature record amid accusations of Met Office bias and poorly sited weather stations.
Dr Spencer asserts that his simple bias reduction modelling of daily high (Tmax) and low (Tmin) UK summer temperatures over the last 65 years produces variations in average temperature “essentially identical” to those published by the Met Office. But there are those who point out that coming to the same conclusion by using two different ways to measure the same faulty data doesn’t alter the fact the data are faulty in the first place.
Ray Sanders, who has undertaken a forensic examination of almost all the Met Office’s 400-plus nationwide temperature measuring sites, is unimpressed, calling Spencer’s findings, “a load of twaddle”. Speaking to the Daily Sceptic, he added: “The whole point is that you can torture numbers as much as you want, but if they were no damn good in the first place they will never get any better.”
His criticism strikes at the heart of Dr Spencer’s work. Spencer argues that a measuring station can be placed in a non-natural, anomalously warm urban environment, but as long as that environment stays the same over time, “it can probably still be used for climate change monitoring”. He went on to state that it “might be” that there has been little additional urban heat warming in London over the last 200 years, something that seems highly unlikely given that the city has grown in the period from a low-rise centre with numerous surrounding small villages to a major metropolitan area full of everything from tall glass buildings to airports. Sanders says that Dr Spencer’s opinions on UHIs (Urban Heat Islands) are “risible”. Simply saying things were bad in the past so they can be compared to now – with the caveat of ‘if things haven’t changed’ – is irrelevant, he states.
Spencer’s model starts with a baseline of three sets of data from sites that are said to have a 126-year continuous temperature measuring record. They are the Central England Temperature Series (CET), a group of three stations, Armagh and Stornoway Airport. This is the first problem. The CET has shown a number of station changes in that period, while the Stornoway record was compiled at another site nearly three miles away until its re-location to the Airport in 1968. Spencer’s high/low calculations go back to 1960 so the Stornoway move, unhelpfully not identified by the Met Office, will likely affect his figures.
The current CET portfolio includes two CIMO Class 4 site with international unnatural ‘uncertainties’ of 2°C, a junk classification also shared by Armagh and Stornoway. In addition, Paul Homewood has discovered that the Met Office has retrospectively cooled the near past and boosted CET readings from the last 20 years. Sanders has done considerable research on all the junk stations and dismisses them as “truly crap sites of incredible bad provenance”. For good measure, he notes that the Armagh weather station used to be housed in a metal box bolted to the side of a building by a first floor window.
Once he has established his initial baseline, Spencer incrementally adds further stations which adjusts the overall composite average. Each time a station is introduced he adds or subtracts its average difference (the bias) over the overlapping years until it lines up with the baseline. Further and better particulars can be obtained from his original article here. This method assumes long-term biases at each station stay mostly the same over time and using that assumption seems to produce the same warming trends as the Met Office. The uncharitable thought, ‘garbage in, garbage out’ springs immediately to mind.
Something that does not seem to have been considered in Spencer’s work is the effect of the change over the last few decades of measuring devices from liquid in glass manual thermometers to automatic electronic systems. This is a largely unaddressed issue in meteorological science but it is highlighted in recent work compiled by Dr Eric Huxter. Looking at the daily Tmax published by the Met Office throughout last May, he found that on average about 0.89°C was added to the maximum recording by temporary and most likely unnatural blips that would not have been picked up by slower-reacting glass bulb devices. Dr Huxter has told the Daily Sceptic that he is confident that electronic devices are biased to recording higher Tmax temperatures, especially given siting issues.
Since the Met Office picks up its daily Tmax from the one minute record, one way to remove some of the distortion would be to average the high over a longer period. Thus the national record declared at RAF Coningsby on July 19th 2022 at 3.12pm falls from a 60-second spike of 40.3°C to a five-minute average of 39.96°C. Over 10 minutes, a possible time frame for movement in liquid in glass bulb thermometers, the fall is 0.5°C. Still hot of course, but not BBC-ready ‘record’ headline hot.
Dr Roy Spencer is a brilliant sceptical scientist who is behind the valuable UAH satellite temperature record – an uncorrupted series that since 1979 shows less global warming than (frequently-adjusted) global surface datasets. He is one of the authors of the excellent climate report published recently by the US Department of Energy that has helped push back the notion of ‘settled’ political science. He is also an authority on urban heat island corruption. In a recent peer-reviewed paper with fellow Energy Department report author Professor John Christy it was calculated that the UHI effect accounted for about 22% of the observed summer warming across all US stations since 1895. For some of the suburban and urban locations – stations that Ray Sanders might refer to as “crap” – the UHI warming bias was no less than 65%.
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Spencer has done some great work in the past and has drawn attention to the problems with recording temperatures. But the temperature record of earth remains a jumble of adjusted and manipulated data that has been fiddled about with more times a prostitutes knickers.
And that jumbled and adjusted data is then averaged with a precision of 100ths of a degree C. Then that data is put into extremely expensive publicly funded super computers to ‘calculate’ average temperatures 20, 30, 50 years in the future. And all driven by individuals with University degrees.
It’s a true miracle to produce precision output from imprecise input, which averages will always do.
Averages can always produce a decimal point not present in the input. 7 + 4 =11, average 5.5.
‘ Ladies of the night’ don’t wear such garments, (so I’m told by a friend of mine).
Funny—–Here is the row of prostitutes knickers that are proof positive of global warming.
Its all pants.
The only reliable temperature record of the Earth is that produced by geologists.
And recordings are made at a staggeringly few sites around the globe with vast areas unreported. The gaps are filled in by making them up hiding under the name of ‘gridding’.
Yep I know——-I have been looking into this stuff since about 2007.
Thank you for all your calm careful analyses. BBC panicking this morning in case the colder weather over Christmas spoils the Met officer’s latest “Hottest year yet.” announcement! Hope it does.
This would tend to indicate that any differences between the two years will be marginal at best. Perhaps the figures could be presented with a clear statement of the accuracy (error bounds) of the temperature calculations.
Sir, surely you jest?
Accuracy, errors, the former is infinite the latter infinitesimal. How dare you suggest that the AGW mob could be wrong!
If your bathroom scales consistently read 2 kg low they are inaccurate but may be used as an indicator of whether you are loosing or gaining weight over time. But the key word is consistently.
If you change your scales, or vary when you use them during the day, or sometimes place them on carpet rather than hard flooring then your ‘consistently’ is shot too.
So… use the UAH satellite figures and make sure replacement satellites overlap to establish a consistent dataset. We have 46 years of data so large ‘trends’ should become more and more obvious – if they exist.
Your example is apt. Suppose each day you weigh on different bathroom scales each with different degree of accuracy, some read too low, others too high.
Then average the readings.
Unfortunately there is no guarantee that an ‘average’ will be accurate… and the ‘average’ may wander around too much and swamp any true trend with noise.
Which is where we are with Climate Change, the signal is drowned out by the noise – although some people will pick which data they think support their cause.
So they can keep doing their $cience…
money talks
Good scientific thinking!
The problem is that Politics has inserted itself at the centre of the “science” and turned it into “official science”
So can we assume the Dr Spencer’s satellite temperature record and the Met Office’s match each other. I got the impression that UAH records and terrestrial ones do not agree.
Satellite sensing uses proxies in the atmosphere to calculate temperature – they are not thermometers. So right there they will have a margin of error.
The terrestrial temperature record was used initially to calibrate the RSS readings. So the error in the ground readings was baked in to the RSS readings.
However the RSS readings did start to diverge from the ground readings, so a “correction” was made to bring them back closer to the ground readings. They do still differ – RSS temperatures are cooler than surface station temperatures.
The whole problem with “global temperatures” is they require, thermometers, mathematucal formulæ, computer programmes, correcting algorithms, and periodic adjustmehts for anomalies such as a mismatch between computer model output and realtime data, aka reality.
“The whole problem with global temperatures” is that all temperature is LOCAL.
I think it is very sneaky of Santa to slip a lump of ice into each child’s present in a feeble attempt to reduce the arctic ice cover.
Merry Christmas to all my fellow disbelievers.
Dr Roy is right, the so-called junk sites might produce junk data for the purpose of weather forecasting, where *absolute* temperature accuracy is important, but a thermometer in a shoe-box in the middle of a motorway is adequate for obtaining *changes* in temperature, as long as the average traffic conditions don’t change.
Dr Roy is also right about so-called “fabricated” data, which is where missing data is estimated from nearby station data as a weighted average of that data. Thus, everything is derived from actual station data.
There are non-climatic artifacts in some Met Office station data from changes in technology, but most of the examples I have seen involve cooling when the technology changed, not warming.
Ultimately this is a conflict between constructive and destructive tendencies. Scientists like Dr Roy seek to obtain the right answer from imperfect data. Somehow publicity is given to those who seek to deny that an answer is possible from the imperfect data, presumably because they don’t like the answers obtained.
Creating the perfect from the imperfect, is known as alchemy – which has a bad reputation, Gold just won’t emerge miraculously from lead.
When NASA engineers used imperfect data to calculate approach velocity and braking force for their Mars lander – it crashed into the surface.
The imperfect data was the inadvertent mixing of mesurements which were metric units with measurements which were US Customary Units (imperial).
Oddly the right answer – approach velocity and braking force – were not forthcoming from the imperfect data.
I would suggest the real problem with the fabricated data is that the missing data is estimated from other missing data as all the nearby sites have closed as well.
That is false, there are always “nearby” sites in the relatively small UK, when considering monthly averages, 1884 is probably deemed to be the date from which the estimation is reliable enough.
That is bunkum, especially when the “nearby” sites have radically different microclimates, have been picked for completely different purposes (e.g. measuring airport runway temperatures), or are long closed or, indeed totally imaginary.
And please explain how a 0.02 degree increase in temperature, not even measured over a complete year and using data including from junk status with predicted inaccuracies of up to 5 degrees, is now supposed to be a “climate record”?
Whilst your at it, are you not aware that “climate” is supposed to be measured over at least 30 years? The rest is just weather.
Common sense, a far more valuable resource than all computer models put together, would tell you that urban environments have grown hotter over the years. More traffic, more powerful cars idling, air conditioning, larger buildings, desktop computers, larger towns and cities with far more people all mean that people generate more heat than ever before. But this isn’t climate – it’s too localised.
The readings from Heathrow Airport could be quite valid as that has not changed since being a farmer’s field in 1940 has it? Oh, wait….
It sounds like the wooden child’s toy, trying to fit the square shape into the round hole. It won’t but hey, if we put the piece of wood through the right lathe with gouges, chisels etc, low and behold, it suddenly fits. Still the same bit of wood but massively manipulated to produce the outcome they wanted. Same with the GIGO temperature stats.
Another dumb cluck attempting to take the position previously occupied by the Venerable Prof Ferguson (who not once in his illustrious career got his numbers correct). The only mystery is, how on earth did he (Ferguson) managed to fool so many people at an international level for so long, which he apparently did?
Quite easy, Sue.
Ferguson did precisely what he was paid to do. Concoct bogus, tendentious figures to scare the plebs into compliance with the Uniparty’s and Big Pharma’s authoritarian control, generating obscene profits.
Ferguson had been producing ludicrously inflated prognostications of deaths from various viruses, prions etc for decades. That is why he got the job.
The official meteorologists of the world have no credibility because we know that the leading body, the WMO, was one of the lead organisations in the UN that started the climate alarm ball rolling and set up the IPCC to be the scientific spearhead of the campaign. The most damaging thing they have done has been to refrain from issuing wind drought warnings. That must be the one kind of extreme weather that they have not used to beat up alarm about warming. Trillions of dollars spent worldwide on wind and solar have delivered more expensive and less reliable power with catastrophic damage to forests and farmlands. That could have been averted if the net zero enthusiasts had taken account of the implications of wind droughts.. The combination of wind droughts and the cost of grid-scale storage guarantees that there will never be a transition to wind and solar because these “unreliables” are not fit for purpose to power a post-industrial society. Dirt farmers are alert to the threat of rain droughts, but meteorologists never issued wind drought warnings and the wind farmers never checked the reliability of the wind supply. https://rafechampion.substack.com/p/the-sinister-threat-of-wind-droughts This is old news in some circles in… Read more »
I just want to say that I really look forward to your articles; this year has been a turning point in the climate emergency madness and you’ve played a major part in questioning the group think.
very Happy Christmas and Happy New Year.
When the London sky was full of SO2 and smoke the daily high temperatures would have been depressed. With the clean air acts UHI affects would have included raised daily high temperatures.
I wonder, has Dr Spencer considered the impact of mobile phone networks may have on temperature record outcomes where electronic devices operate?