At Tommy’s Carols
The proposal to hold a carol service in Whitehall on Saturday at the instigation of Christian convert Tommy Robinson was met with a chorus of pre-condemnation from among others Theo Hobson, Giles Fraser, Fraser Nelson, several provincial bishops and any number of local pastors scared of… what exactly? Writing in UnHerd, the Reverend Giles compensated in telepathy for what he lacked in Christian brotherhood, declaring Tommy Robinson’s conversion to be “cynical”.
How many of these critics attended the event to see for themselves? I did, but I have to confess we were ourselves nearly put off; was it to be too “politicised”, wondered the Tradwife?
Needless to say, the event itself provided no justification for the media finger-wagging.
I have been to many such evangelical events over the years. The preaching from several ministers at this event was different. It was more declamatory, in the style of the great Methodists John Wesley and George Whitefield. The preaching was ambitious, drew on the gospel, and focused on Christ as King. It was a rough-edged call to Christian leadership.
Apart from the carols and the Wesleyan proclamations, there were many striking personal testimonies from those whose self-avowedly ruinous lives had been turned around through the intervention of Christ, in some cases miraculously so. Several confessed that they had been rescued from suicide. As the psalmist said: “Out of the depths I cry to you, O Lord.”
In one such testimony a young woman told us how the n-word had been used against her by Stand Up to Racism activists when she questioned their ideology; at Tommy’s carols she had been welcomed with love. There were contributions from sharp and fearless young commentators – Bob from Speakers’ Corner compered much of it, together with courageous young Bob from Turning Point UK.
How have we arrived at a point where to proclaim that ‘Britain is a Christian country’ is regarded as dangerous and leads to wailing protestations from bishops in the House of Lords? That Britain is a Christian country is a statement of constitutional and historical fact. Show me a tree that can ‘progress’ beyond its roots. National renewal is not going to occur without Christian renewal. Yet to say so is a heresy, not against the gospels, but against postmodernism and multiculturalism which some of us feel is now the bishops’ creed.
I became a believing Christian in 2007 and was received into the Catholic Church that Christmas. As part of the charismatic wing of the church, my wife and I have been called to associate with many churches of different denominations over the years. One of the things that I have noticed as a sign of a church that is going somewhere; it attracts and is led by young men. This is the grounded church at its most authentically apostolic. This is the kind of church we saw at the event. We will be hearing a lot more from these men in future years.
As the secular philosophers have led the country away from the sacrificial, the heroic, towards a settled doctrine of self-preservation and self-interest, we are washed up in a place where all we really believe in is ‘safety’. What is there for young men in that? Postmodernism ushered in this apathetic decline. The bishops are scared of what an unapologetic proclamation of a Christian country might lead to; it might get all rather ‘unsafe’. Yet as Karen Armstrong successfully argued in Fields of Blood, authentic religious faith leads people away from conflict, not towards it. If Tommy Robinson continues on his Christian journey, he’s likely to become gentler on the surface, more deeply convicted underneath and more willing to sacrifice himself for Christ.
The leadership of the Anglican church more and more comes to resemble the Green Party at prayer. That will convert no-one.
Tommy Robinson himself appeared only briefly at the end of the event. He admitted that he knew the Quran before he knew the Bible and in an aside, he proclaimed “masculine Christianity”. He has a good point. The church in England is very maternal – that can also be a strength – but there is too little there to attract young men who know their lives bear little resemblance to Catholic ideals and know that the way they are is held in disdain by the aspirant classes.
The answer is not to abolish the Catholic ideals but to stop the lying. We are all sinners, however much we prop ourselves up with the aid of secular ideologies or self-righteous religion. And that humble, even humiliating admission of sin is what we saw being proclaimed here by speaker after speaker. Christ pours out his love on the sinner.
In this controversy the ‘Parable of the Prodigal Son’ is being played out again; the shattered, dishevelled son is welcomed home by the father, while to one side, as depicted in Rembrandt’s great painting of the scene, stands the established and respectable elder brother; elevated, superior, thin-lipped, disdainful, yet in the end just as much loved by the Father.
The Bible warns strongly against the misattribution of the work of God to malign forces. We came away from Tommy’s carols impressed, uplifted and encouraged. The bishops probably already know they have been wrong-footed by this joyous occasion.
But don’t take my word for it – join us next year in Trafalgar Square!
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I find it quite ironic when people like Theo Hobson and various bishops are overcome with apoplectic indignation at the sight of Tommy Robinson’s Christianity.
They play out the story of the Pharisee and the tax collector (Luke 18:9).
”What is this horrible thug doing amongst us righteous Christians…?”, I almost hear them say. “We are good people! We fly the rainbow flag, we support multiculturalism, we condemn colonialism and we are even pro-choice! Tommy Robinson has no place amongst us!”
Don’t forget Gaia the earth goddess hanging in our cathedrals.
Very unsettling and distracting to see it suspended directly over the communion table and choir, and rotating constantly all through the services in Hexham Abbey for four weeks.
The Church of England, closely followed by the Church of Wales, is turning into a promoter of pagan and anti Christian doctrines. They epitomize the move towards virtue signalling so that every conceivable practice is acceptable so there are no victims; when in fact the Archbishop of Canterbury downwards is supporting vile anti biblical practices.
Why can they not accept that people like Tommy Robinson can have a Damascene moment and go forward to newly found faith? Where is their Christian faith?
As a Christian who was actually driven out of the Baptist church for PRAYING ALOUD FOR TOMMY ROBINSON (yes, really), I was glad to hear that Tommy had converted to Christianity in prison, guided by the Catholic chaplain back to the Catholic religion of his Irish mother, as shown by the rosary beads he wore upon his release from prison. It is important, however, to remember the huge difference between Christians who worship a Human Woman, in violation of the Ten Commandments and in violation of Jesus’ teachings, and Christians who don’t. Here is just one example of some of the many fundamental differences: Biblical Ten Commandments followed by Faithful Protestants 1. I am the Lord thy God. Thou shall have no other gods before me. (Exodus 20:3) 2. THOU SHALT NOT MAKE UNTO THEE ANY GRAVEN IMAGES. (Exodus 20:4-6) 3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. (Exodus 20:7) 4. Remember the Sabbath day and keep it Holy. (Exodus 20:8-11) [Note: It does not say you must attend church or Catholic Mass] 5. Honour thy father and mother. (Exodus 20:12) 6. Thou shalt not murder. (Exodus 20:13) 7. Thou shalt not commit adultery. (Exodus 20:14)… Read more »
The Catholic Crucifix is also a Blasphemous Violation of the Ten Commandments and Jesus’ teachings, depicting a GRAVEN IMAGE of Jesus nailed to a cross.
Protestants celebrate THE EMPTY CROSS.
Mary is not God and should not be worshipped as Isis was before her.
Thank you for boldly telling the truth!
She isn’t.
I fear that you have been reading the wrong books and thus your allegations are incorrect. In my Catechism of Christian Doctrine published by the Catholic Truth Society the Ten Commandments begin thus:
“I am the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, and out of the house of bondage.
1. Thou shalt not have strange gods before me. Thou shalt not make to thyself any graven thing, nor the likenessof any thing that is in heaven above, or in the earth beneath, nor of those things that are in the waters under the earth. Thou shalt not adore them nor serve them.
2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.”
I think that this information comprehensively disproves your false allegation.
No, it does not! Read what you yourself have written !
You Catholics all over the world are BREAKING THE 2ND COMMANDMENT against GRAVEN IMAGES, crawling on your knees before STATUES of a Human Woman, kissing her icons, chanting her name thousands of times, carrying her statues around in parades, praying to her instead of Almighty God, and placing GRAVEN IMAGES of Jesus, whom you mistakenly call “God”, on your crucifix, and in her lap! And calling her “Co-Redeemer” with Jesus! Sheer Abomination, like worshipping The Golden Calf !
Shame on you all for BREAKING GOD’S COMMANDMENTS and WORSHIPPING A HUMAN WOMAN instead of Almighty God !!!
Jesus NEVER TOLD YOU TO WORSHIP HER !!!
And Jesus NEVER TOLD YOU TO WORSHIP HIM, EITHER, but always deferred his disciples to his FATHER. Read your New Testament, instead of listening to priests.
And shame on you all for making graven images= STATUES of Jesus, even placing gigantic graven images of him on top of mountains, like the one in Brazil.
Pope Francis’ Consecrating the World to Mary Culminates Fatima Celebration| National Catholic Register
The Pope “CONSECRATING THE WORLD TO MARY” ???
Are you Catholics out of your minds, goading Almighty God into Righteous Wrath against you?
Wake up, and just STOP.
Heretic, I bear no ill wish towards you.
But I am a Catholic and shall remain a Catholic.
I think many Christians, particularly Baptists, simply seek anything in the scriptures that requires Mary to be given high status and worshipped as God. It’s basic theology, but no cause for ill will. People must follow their own heart and conscience. All will be revealed in the fullness of time.
I am a Baptist and this is news to me.
Glad to bring it to you.
You can carry on worshipping THE GOLDEN CALF,
until Judgment Day.
We Catholics don’t “worship” the Blessed Virgin Mary. We certainly venerate her, but that is a completely different thing from worship.
False! Honest Catholics admit that you DO WORSHIP MARY, in all the ways I’ve already listed above.
OK – give me some links to where “honest Catholics” have said that.
Oh – and if you could do so without using CAPS LOCK I’d be grateful.
Giles Fraser’s piece in Unherd was amusing. He would, he said, deny Robinson communion if he came to his church. A priestly gatekeeper. All the funnier because the professionally religious accused Jesus of ‘stirring up the people’ and ‘perverting the nation’. Search the scriptures, they say, no prophet is to arise from Luton Galilee. Fraser noted Robinson’s previous convictions. How strange this is. The Gospels record that Jesus tells the convicted criminal executed alongside Him that today he will be with Him in paradise. During the years of the Blair-Campbell regime, a journalist described the Church of England as New Labour in its knees. These clergy promote the secular salvation of multiculturalism. The vicar of Holy Trinity Tooting handing out leaflets at this carol service depicting the nativity scene as a multicultural event: Jesus photoshopped as a client king of this 21st century worldly power; as if He had accepted the offer to gain His kingdom on earth as a gift, and thus without the Cross, in the wilderness temptation. These bishops flutter into activity, like moths shaken out of a decaying garment, over a carol service being stolen from them, but the Church of England has been nothing but… Read more »
Brilliant comment, especially this gem:
“These bishops flutter into activity, like moths shaken out of a decaying garment…”
I think you need to read and think for your self a bit more. Your comments are a good example of how Protestantism so often ends up sowing division and leading souls away from faith in Jesus Christ.
Sorry I realise my comment made in haste was itself somewhat uncharitable!
It happens to us all. So annoying to bash out a quick response in the heat of the moment, then regret the tone, or heaven forfend, a typo or speeling mistake!
I prefer honesty.
Why on earth are you apologizing for stating your own views?
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Get a grip. He was entitled to say what he did, but as a Christian he regretted his lack of charity and chose to apologise, or as St Paul put it: all things are lawful for me, but not all things are expedient.
Yes but we do need charity and I feel if you actually spent some time discussing your views with any serious Catholic you would find that maybe you’re misunderstanding us and missing out on the richness of Catholicism.
Hear, hear.
There’s a lot of money to be made by financial donations from the Christian right in the US.
Could be a good income stream for him.
Not sure what the “football lads” will make of their Tommy becoming a God botherer.
Ah yes, just as there was a lot of money to be made by financial donations from AMERICAN CATHOLICS in the US to the CATHOLIC IRA TERRORISTS who murdered so many British Citizens in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland…including the attempted assassination of Protestant Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in Brighton.
The problem is that Christians don’t know who their flock is anymore. The bishops will reject until their dying day someone as ‘dreadful’ as Tommy Robinson but will happily do fake baptisms for any number of migrants to allow them to stay in this country, even knowing that many of them despise Christians and Christianity and that some present a high danger risk to women and children once they are out and about in their parish. I will admit to rolling my eyes at the carol concert I attended today when the carol booklets were handed out and each page had both carols and a small begging piece for various residents of Palestine, who were on hard times – nothing about Christians around the world who might be suffering, especially at the hands of the co-religionists of the people they were begging for. As an atheist (I was at the concert to support a friend), I am pleased I can’t be tarred with the hypocrisy of religion.
Well said! I read years ago that the world focused only on Palestinian Muslims, completely forgetting the Palestinian Christians whose ancestors lived there for 600 years before Islam was even invented, and who have been persecuted, oppressed and driven out by both Palestinian Muslims and Jewish Israelis.
This is similar to Egypt, where Coptic Christians are allowed only to collect Muslims’ rubbish and clean Muslims’ toilets and sewers… by hand. And in the Indian Subcontinent, where Christians are the Lowest Slave Caste, persecuted by Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs & Buddhists. As one charity said,
“Every brick in Pakistan is made by a Christian Slave”.
I entirely agree with you Cotfordtags and my old self would probably also just ‘roll my eyes’, but until we all stand up for our point of view on these things, the people that produced the carol sheet will think that we all agree with them
If I possibly can, I make sure that I challenge stuff like this, not just Palestinian support, and on a very small scale admittedly. For example U3a newsletters, hobby or society magazines, local news mags and “newspapers” that casually support the “climate crisis” and all the rest of it. Even, would you believe it, a cemetery preservation society newsletter that expressed support for Black Lives Matter!
It only takes an email and surprise, surprise they nearly all back down immediately. I have even had an apology for a snarky comment about Trump in an unrelated article about industrial archaeology.
We should go forth and evangelize!
I thought this was a nice piece written about Tommy’s conversion to Christianity, which I didn’t even know anything about until the other day. I think there’s lots of Doubting Thomases around who think he’s faking it; ”There are figures in public life who become symbols rather than people. Their names turn into shorthand, their stories flattened into slogans, their humanity edited out. Tommy Robinson is one of those figures. For many he exists only as a headline or a warning. For others he represents something raw and unresolved in modern Britain. I write from the second camp, not out of blind loyalty but from a deliberate choice to look beyond the caricature. What has always struck me about Robinson is not perfection but persistence. He has endured public humiliation, legal consequences, imprisonment and relentless hostility. Most people buckle under a fraction of that pressure. Some retreat. Some harden into bitterness. Robinson has done neither completely. Instead he has continued to speak, to argue and to show up, even when the cost has been high. Resilience is not a fashionable virtue, but it remains a necessary one. Much mockery has been aimed at his account of meeting God in prison.… Read more »
May I also point out that there would have been no singing of carols or any kind of hymns by the congregation in CATHOLIC CHURCHES FOR 1400 YEARS, because the congregations were BANNED FROM SINGING IN CHURCH by the Council of Laodicea.
Catholic congregations were forced to be MERE SPECTATORS at church services, as they still are today, especially in Orthodox services, where they are often expected to stand, watch & listen to the priests performing their rituals and chanting in Old Slavonic or Latin or whatever, which ordinary people do not understand.
It was the great Protestant Reformer Martin Luther who wrote simple hymns for the congregations to sing, because every hymn is like a sermon in itself.
Tommy Robinson’s conversion is moving, and his willingness to bear public witness to it is impressive. God bless him.
If woke bishops, or other people, are calling Tommy Robinson’s embracing of Christianity cynical then they’re pretty much saying he isn’t a “proper” Christian. This is unbelievably arrogant of them as there’s only 4 people who can ever know if Tommy has genuinely repented of some of the things he’s done in the past, accepted that he needs to be saved and only Christ can save him. These 4 are Tommy Robinson, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Hear hear. Although as an ex catholic I do wonder what “sacrifice himself for Christ” actually means. Seems a bit of a word salad to me.