Labour donor and green energy tycoon Dale Vince has sparked a backlash after linking the Bondi Beach massacre to Israel’s actions in Gaza, saying Benjamin Netanyahu “wants antisemitism to be a thing” and “acts to make it so”. The Telegraph has more.
The green energy tycoon – who gave Labour more than £5 million last year – said after the attack that Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, “wants anti-Semitism to be a thing” and “acts to make it so”.
At least 15 people were killed in an attack targeting Jewish families as they celebrated Hanukkah in Sydney on Sunday. The youngest victim was a 10 year-old girl named Matilda.
Mr Vince wrote on X on Sunday afternoon:
Kemi Badenoch, the Conservative leader, called on Sir Keir Starmer to condemn Mr Vince, claiming that if the Prime Minister did not comment it “implies he sees nothing wrong”.
She wrote: “Hours after the biggest massacre of Jews since October 7th, the Labour Party’s largest donor tweeted ‘Netanyahu wants antisemitism to be a thing’. A morally repugnant statement.”
Kevin Hollinrake, the Tory party Chairman, called Mr Vince’s remarks “disgraceful”. He wrote on X: “Any language that excuses or legitimises terrorism gives extremists cover and undermines our values. Labour must return all donations received from Mr Vince, refuse future ones, and make clear that terrorism has no moral ambiguity.”
He wrote on X: “Islamist terrorists often try to invoke whatever is the latest complaint about the Government of Israel, but the victims on Bondi beach were killed for who they are as they came together to celebrate Hanukkah – as Jewish people have been targeted through history. Time for Keir Starmer to cut ties with Mr Vince.”
Lord Goldsmith, a Conservative peer and former minister, said in response to Mr Vince: “Has antisemitism only been around for 75 years? No pogroms or Jew hate before then?”
On Monday, Mr Vince said his comments were “not intended to excuse or legitimise terrorism, or any form of racism” and that “what happened at Bondi beach is an atrocity”.
In a statement, he said: “My words are aimed at the intervention of Netanyahu who, in my opinion, overlooks the impacts of his own terrorism. If anti-Semitism is rising in the world today, then surely on any rational analysis the biggest single cause of that will be the genocide in Palestine. I condemn all acts of violence and all forms of racism.”
I’m just putting this out there on why they were targeted and I condemn ALL violence.
Rabbi Eli Schlanger, who’s among the dead in the Sydney shooting attack, is a known Rabbi to have supported the genocide in Gaza.
He has travelled many times to Occupied Palestine and praised the IDF for their war crimes.
At one point he says he celebrated with the IDF, danced, and made BBQ before they invaded Gaza.
Occupied Palestine should read the Palestinian lands. This disguised anti- Semitism fools no one, not anymore. There is no justification for the Bondi Beach massacre so any condemnation needs no qualification or further context.
I’m trying to think of a single positive thing that’s come out of Pakistan, that they’ve brought to the West, and I literally can’t. Actually, I could easily add Afghanistan, Syria and many more to the list. If anyone can think of just one way in which we’ve benefited from these people coming across to Europe, do share with the class. At least Indians bring great food, lol…
I’ve got a mate from Afghanistan. Thoroughly decent bloke. I have a bloke on my team from Syria – no idea what he does in his private life but he’s a top worker. But I totally agree with your general point.
There’ll always be outliers, this is indisputable. But the problem is we just don’t know the percentage split across the nationalities as to who’s a ‘goody’, or an asset, and who’s a ‘baddy’, a criminal or a drain on society. So because all we ever hear is predominantly bad stuff related to these nationalities I’m inclined to think the bad outweigh the good.
I don’t think we can call it ”cherry-picking” at this stage, there’s just too much ongoing bad stuff happening concerning these migrants. So I’m referring to them as ”outliers” just because the impression I get is that they’re a minority and we can’t keep accepting these people on the off-chance, like a toss of a coin, that they’ll be the good sort.
Mind, the ‘baddies’ could still be a minority but a significant minority, therefore the tipping point could be reached with them still in relatively small numbers compared with the native population.
I would agree with that summary. You could argue that a more rigorous immigration vetting process would weed out most of the undesirables – this may be true but sounds expensive. You could also argue that even if people are not “undesirable”, certain cultures are just not that compatible with our own. I don’t think we have any moral obligation to be “fair” to people who want to immigrate here – but we absolutely must be fair to everyone who is already here LEGALLY provided they commit no serious crimes or breach the terms of their visas. Those people must be treated as individuals not as part of a group.
Any kind of regular immigration process which isn’t just “landed illegally on some beach, so, must get benefits immediately and ILR ASAP” would probably greatly improve the situation.
What would also help would be to be a lot more aggressive wrt immigrants committing serious crimes, especially so-called refugees. These should be deported to their country of origin without any regard for what might befall them there. People seeking protection ought to conduct themselves in a way which demonstrates that they’re actuallly worthy of being protected.
That’s still really much too nice for “I couldn’t help raping this woman because of $something_culture!” A better reaction would be, “Ok boy, you harmed us because of your culture, we’re now going harm you because of our culture. Thoroughly.”
As number published by MigrationWatch demonstrate, the people you’re referring to as “baddies” are a tiny minority (less than 1%) of the groups they are assigned to.
Aha. And because said rabbi was a supporter of whatever is going on in Gaza, it’s understandable that 15 people were shot dead, including a 10 year old child.
Is that your thinking?
No, that is not my thinking.
15 people were murdered which is a crime.
The others may have died because Rabbi Eli Schlanger and his support for the war crimes against Gazans made him the main target.
One has to wonder that if there had been no “mowing the lawn”/aka genocide, in Palestine/The West Bank whether or not this latest atrocity would have happened.
But of course, sorry – I forget – 60.000 plus civilian deaths doesn’t mean genocide.
It just means 60,000 plus dead souls – for what?
And Ralph Nader – Jewish – estimates that over 150,000 are dead.
Then there’s the maimed traumatised to consider.
Never mind, just think of all those beach front properties – where you can look and marvel at all the oil and gas being extracted off shore.
I do.
And so do a lot of those of the Jewish faith who criticise Israel/IDF.
Jeffrey Sachs for example.
Try reading what he has to say with an open mind – if you’ve got one, – like many on here.
The psycho son was already known to Aussie Intelligence. It’s like these sorts of things follow a particular formula. Usually it’s the old: ”yeah they had their asylum claim rejected and were due to be deported but they disappeared and we couldn’t be arsed looking for them.”
”So the Father arrived in Australia in 1998 on a student visa, the son is an Australian born citizen. The Son was known to authorities as he had been part of an investigation in 2019…. how many more times are we going to hear stories like this”;
This is what they were doing and the ‘associates’ he was on about. They didn’t look like it was their first rodeo handling those shotguns;
”Some reports are emerging about the Bondi Beach terrorists.
This is the terrorist camp in Kotli, Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, where Bondi Beach attackers Sajid Akram and Naveed Akram were trained. They visited Pakistan three times in two years and underwent 30-day training here.
The camp was destroyed by India in May 2025 during Operation Sindoor.”
”BONDI Beach gunman Naveed Akram had pledged allegiance to Islamic State, authorities believe.
Akram, 24, was investigated by Australian spy agency the ASIO in 2019.
The ABC reported that the ASIO had investigated the 24-year-old shooter for six months in 2019, after the arrest of an Islamic state terrorist.
Akram was examined for “close ties to a Sydney-based Islamic State (IS) terrorism cell”, according to the ABC.
The Joint Counter Terrorism Team (JCTT) believe Akram’s father also pledged loyalty to IS.”
This does not endear Mr Vince to me….rather the opposite
People are entitled to criticize the government of Israel but most certainly not for mass murders someone unrelated to it committed in Australia, and decent people wouldn’t need to be told about the difference.
This comment has been edited to remove a word play related to Vince’s totally deplaced “anti-semitism” statement and it wasn’t meant to express my affection of disaffection for him. Rather that
Labour must return all donations received from Mr Vince, refuse future ones, and make clear that terrorism has no moral ambiguity.
or, more generally worded, people and organisations should really cut their ties to him because his statements are seriously beyond the pale.
Mrs.Croc
3 months ago
There is no excuse for what he said. If labour don’t cut all ties with him, then we will know what they truly are.
By the way, no more subsidies for his Jew hating empire please.
This shooting does look very much like another false flag.
No police although the station is about 100 metres away.
15 people killed in 11 minutes of shooting ?
How the hell were these two allowed to continue shooting for 11 minutes in a country where every police officer is routinely armed ?
Why was it a civilian not a police officer attempting to disarm one of the shooters ?
How come Mossad agents were on scene in a matter of hours ?
I think people should keep their own council until we have more facts because this stinks to high heaven.
RTSC
3 months ago
I’m sure The Guardian and the BBC (which is oh so unbiased) will be loudly and persistently condemning these provable and disgraceful comments, which were made yesterday, not allegedly 49 years ago) …. for weeks.
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A most dangerous individual
This sounds a bit like a wife beater who claims the latest beating was self defence because she fought back.
Not for nothing is Dale Vince an anagram of Evil Dance.
Not my favourite person…
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Au contraire mon brave he has gone up majorly in my estimation just as Kemi and all the Netanyahu apologists have plummeted even further.
I’m just putting this out there on why they were targeted and I condemn ALL violence.
Rabbi Eli Schlanger, who’s among the dead in the Sydney shooting attack, is a known Rabbi to have supported the genocide in Gaza.
He has travelled many times to Occupied Palestine and praised the IDF for their war crimes.
At one point he says he celebrated with the IDF, danced, and made BBQ before they invaded Gaza.
There was no genocide.
Occupied Palestine should read the Palestinian lands. This disguised anti- Semitism fools no one, not anymore. There is no justification for the Bondi Beach massacre so any condemnation needs no qualification or further context.
I’m trying to think of a single positive thing that’s come out of Pakistan, that they’ve brought to the West, and I literally can’t. Actually, I could easily add Afghanistan, Syria and many more to the list. If anyone can think of just one way in which we’ve benefited from these people coming across to Europe, do share with the class. At least Indians bring great food, lol…
I’ve got a mate from Afghanistan. Thoroughly decent bloke. I have a bloke on my team from Syria – no idea what he does in his private life but he’s a top worker. But I totally agree with your general point.
There’ll always be outliers, this is indisputable. But the problem is we just don’t know the percentage split across the nationalities as to who’s a ‘goody’, or an asset, and who’s a ‘baddy’, a criminal or a drain on society. So because all we ever hear is predominantly bad stuff related to these nationalities I’m inclined to think the bad outweigh the good.
I don’t think we can call it ”cherry-picking” at this stage, there’s just too much ongoing bad stuff happening concerning these migrants. So I’m referring to them as ”outliers” just because the impression I get is that they’re a minority and we can’t keep accepting these people on the off-chance, like a toss of a coin, that they’ll be the good sort.
Mind, the ‘baddies’ could still be a minority but a significant minority, therefore the tipping point could be reached with them still in relatively small numbers compared with the native population.
I would agree with that summary. You could argue that a more rigorous immigration vetting process would weed out most of the undesirables – this may be true but sounds expensive. You could also argue that even if people are not “undesirable”, certain cultures are just not that compatible with our own. I don’t think we have any moral obligation to be “fair” to people who want to immigrate here – but we absolutely must be fair to everyone who is already here LEGALLY provided they commit no serious crimes or breach the terms of their visas. Those people must be treated as individuals not as part of a group.
Any kind of regular immigration process which isn’t just “landed illegally on some beach, so, must get benefits immediately and ILR ASAP” would probably greatly improve the situation.
What would also help would be to be a lot more aggressive wrt immigrants committing serious crimes, especially so-called refugees. These should be deported to their country of origin without any regard for what might befall them there. People seeking protection ought to conduct themselves in a way which demonstrates that they’re actuallly worthy of being protected.
That’s still really much too nice for “I couldn’t help raping this woman because of $something_culture!” A better reaction would be, “Ok boy, you harmed us because of your culture, we’re now going harm you because of our culture. Thoroughly.”
That would indeed greatly improve the situation. We may or may not live to see these approaches attempted.
As number published by MigrationWatch demonstrate, the people you’re referring to as “baddies” are a tiny minority (less than 1%) of the groups they are assigned to.
I didn’t say it was “justified”.
Aha. And because said rabbi was a supporter of whatever is going on in Gaza, it’s understandable that 15 people were shot dead, including a 10 year old child.
Is that your thinking?
No, that is not my thinking.
15 people were murdered which is a crime.
The others may have died because Rabbi Eli Schlanger and his support for the war crimes against Gazans made him the main target.
Read my other comment ref ‘genocide’. Yours and others have a false premise to begin with.
One has to wonder that if there had been no “mowing the lawn”/aka genocide, in Palestine/The West Bank whether or not this latest atrocity would have happened.
But of course, sorry – I forget – 60.000 plus civilian deaths doesn’t mean genocide.
It just means 60,000 plus dead souls – for what?
Over a year ago The Lancet suggested that there were 180,000 dead Palestinians in Gaza.
It will be even more now.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-19/gaza-death-toll-numbers-killed-israel-strikes-buried-body-parts/104259532
And Ralph Nader – Jewish – estimates that over 150,000 are dead.
Then there’s the maimed traumatised to consider.
Never mind, just think of all those beach front properties – where you can look and marvel at all the oil and gas being extracted off shore.
And you should also wonder whether this “mowing the lawn”, as you call it, would have happened without October 7th 2023.
Which of the two photos below is genocide?
Well it’s no different for the dancing and celebration in the streets of palastine when they watched the Jews get butchered.
What war crimes?
It sounds very much as if you are condoning some violence.
But nobody cares what he thinks.
I do.
And so do a lot of those of the Jewish faith who criticise Israel/IDF.
Jeffrey Sachs for example.
Try reading what he has to say with an open mind – if you’ve got one, – like many on here.
But not you.
The psycho son was already known to Aussie Intelligence. It’s like these sorts of things follow a particular formula. Usually it’s the old: ”yeah they had their asylum claim rejected and were due to be deported but they disappeared and we couldn’t be arsed looking for them.”
”So the Father arrived in Australia in 1998 on a student visa, the son is an Australian born citizen. The Son was known to authorities as he had been part of an investigation in 2019…. how many more times are we going to hear stories like this”;
https://x.com/jomickane/status/2000597890771882010
This is what they were doing and the ‘associates’ he was on about. They didn’t look like it was their first rodeo handling those shotguns;
”Some reports are emerging about the Bondi Beach terrorists.
This is the terrorist camp in Kotli, Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, where Bondi Beach attackers Sajid Akram and Naveed Akram were trained. They visited Pakistan three times in two years and underwent 30-day training here.
The camp was destroyed by India in May 2025 during Operation Sindoor.”
https://x.com/kingkapoor72/status/2000539091297812594
”BONDI Beach gunman Naveed Akram had pledged allegiance to Islamic State, authorities believe.
Akram, 24, was investigated by Australian spy agency the ASIO in 2019.
The ABC reported that the ASIO had investigated the 24-year-old shooter for six months in 2019, after the arrest of an Islamic state terrorist.
Akram was examined for “close ties to a Sydney-based Islamic State (IS) terrorism cell”, according to the ABC.
The Joint Counter Terrorism Team (JCTT) believe Akram’s father also pledged loyalty to IS.”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/37636520/bondi-beach-gunman-pledged-allegiance-isis-terror-cops-probed/
… except there isn’t, and never was, a genocide in what they call ‘Palestine’.
This does not endear Mr Vince to me….rather the opposite
People are entitled to criticize the government of Israel but most certainly not for mass murders someone unrelated to it committed in Australia, and decent people wouldn’t need to be told about the difference.
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This comment has been edited to remove a word play related to Vince’s totally deplaced “anti-semitism” statement and it wasn’t meant to express my affection of disaffection for him. Rather that
Labour must return all donations received from Mr Vince, refuse future ones, and make clear that terrorism has no moral ambiguity.
or, more generally worded, people and organisations should really cut their ties to him because his statements are seriously beyond the pale.
There is no excuse for what he said. If labour don’t cut all ties with him, then we will know what they truly are.
By the way, no more subsidies for his Jew hating empire please.
I really don’t like the look of Dale Vince.
This shooting does look very much like another false flag.
No police although the station is about 100 metres away.
15 people killed in 11 minutes of shooting ?
How the hell were these two allowed to continue shooting for 11 minutes in a country where every police officer is routinely armed ?
Why was it a civilian not a police officer attempting to disarm one of the shooters ?
How come Mossad agents were on scene in a matter of hours ?
I think people should keep their own council until we have more facts because this stinks to high heaven.
I’m sure The Guardian and the BBC (which is oh so unbiased) will be loudly and persistently condemning these provable and disgraceful comments, which were made yesterday, not allegedly 49 years ago) …. for weeks.
When you see a haircut like that on an old man you know instinctively that he is a complete priapus; and I don’t mean the god.