Give Children Flu Vaccines to Protect Granny at Christmas, Says NHS
Children should be given flu vaccinations to protect their grandparents at Christmas, NHS bosses have said – despite the lack of evidence that flu vaccines prevent infection or transmission. The Telegraph has more.
Flu rates are currently more than three times higher among children than pensioners and there are fears that the virus will spread to older generations during the festive season.
Despite warnings that this flu season could be the worst on record and peak at Christmas, fewer than half of children aged five to 14 have been vaccinated, the latest figures show.
Health chiefs warned that while children were much more likely to get flu, older people were far more likely to be taken to hospital if they caught it.
Caroline Temmink, the NHS Director of Vaccinations, said: “As families gear up for festive celebrations together, it’s now or never to get protected against flu in time for Christmas.
“Children are super-spreaders and with flu infections rising fast in younger age groups, getting kids vaccinated is one of the best ways to prevent serious illness, especially for grandparents and loved ones who are vulnerable.”
Latest data show that the daily percentage of tests positive for flu is 46.9 among those aged five to 14, against rates of between 12.5 and 14.5 in those aged 65 and over. …
Schools across the country have resorted to Covid-style lockdown measures to contain the spread.
Headteachers have ordered ‘firebreak’ school closures and cancelled singing in assemblies.
Three schools shut for several days in recent weeks while several introduced measures to tackle the spread, including cancelling nativity plays.
However, Government officials have now ordered schools not to do so except in “extreme circumstances”.
Read the report in full here.
If nearly half of flu tests in children are positive despite nearly half of children being vaccinated, what does that say about the effectiveness of the vaccine? Caroline Temmink doesn’t say, though last month the Government claimed the vaccine is “currently 70 to 75% effective at preventing hospital attendance in children aged two to 17 years”. There is no mention, however, of how effective it is at preventing infection and transmission – the only thing that matters when you’re trying to save granny, who in any case is herself presumably vaccinated in the hope of preventing serious disease. Even Anthony Fauci admitted (in a 2023 paper) that flu vaccines fail to prevent infection because the flu virus is “quickly transmitted to other hosts, within a narrow window of time before adaptive immune responses are fully marshalled”.
This year’s supposedly high rates of flu are (so far) mainly an illusion created by the wave happening slightly earlier, as can be seen in this chart. Most likely the overall shape and total numbers will be similar to other years by the end of the season.
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As Granny will probably have had a flu injection, can anyone explain how a child having this ineffective vaccine is going to do anything for anyone.?
The key question they never answer.
Don’t whatever you do apply logic to this, it’s far more important that everybody gets worked into a hysterical panic.
The health service is owned by Pharma, they earn by pushing drugs for them, they are no better than the Mexican Cartels
You might ask why the 2012 paper showing that the medical advisory organisations worldwide had criminally ignored the correct concentration of circulating vitamin D that we all require to protect ourselves against diseases like flu and ILIs (not to mention cancers). Could it be that the medical journals that are owned by big Pharma don’t want competition for their snake oil?
Spot on. But pharma and the doctors administering jabs at c £10 a pop don’t make as much money if people use this logic.
Flu Vaccines are ineffective and dangerous. “You need a DB RCT (Double Blind Random Control Trial) to see the benefits. There is a reason they don’t do the DB RCTs to prove the vaccine works. Can you guess what it is? Could it be because they don’t want to expose the fact that the vaccines don’t work. Of course, today they can argue that they are not allowed to test whether the vaccine works or not because they can’t have a true placebo group because it would not be the standard of care. Convenient, isn’t it? So based on the rules, we’ll never be able to use a DB RCT to determine whether the vaccine works or not. They like it that way. No complaints from the drug companies on that one! The best piece of advice I can offer is always demand to see the all-cause risk benefit data before you consent to getting a vaccine, any vaccine.” https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/why-you-should-not-get-the-flu-vaccine?publication_id=548354&post_id=119758137&isFreemail=true “randomised (real) placebo-controlled trials give you a good idea of the incidence of influenza (in the older trials, by a rise in antibody titres and or a viral positive culture isolate). When you pool the data together, you are not… Read more »
100%! big-pharma will never fund a double blinded RCT using proper placebos because the results will be fatal to their ongoing fraud that is germ theory, propagated via the pseudo-scientific practices of virology.
No idea why there’s a down vote. Whoever you are, why not engage in a discussion instead?
How much more disgusting can these people get, they are truly, the lowest of the low, shoving their damned chemicals in children in the sad and sorry excuse for a health service that cannot perform the most basic health functions. Striking always for MORE MORE Money, telllng children they are in the wrong bodies, cutting off breasts of young girls, feeding them more drugs.
Then allowing men into Nurses changing rooms to perv at them, and saying the women are in the wrong.
Get rid of this travesty of a health system and privatise it, let us choose and let us protect our children from these drug pushers
The graph certainly shows Reform performing well.
They clearly picked a good colour and the association is working!
Yeah, those flu vaccines are working so well that no school has been affected by outbreaks of flu. Ah, hold on…..
so let me get this right. We need to vaccinate the people less at risk in order to protect those most at risk who by definition, should have already been vaccinated. We’re back to the stupidity of phase 2 of the Covid years.
I never really saw the difference between colds and flu.
I had flu in the 1999/00 season. I wouldn’t want it again. Colds are one thing, flu quite another. That said, 3 days later, all fine.
I’ve had ‘flu a couple of times in my life. No need to exhort people to stay at home if they have ‘flu. Getting out of bed to go to the toilet is hard enough. Likewise: when it’s gone, it’s gone.
Was it actually Influenza? Buggered if I know.
I can imagine that if I got something like that when I’m old and frail it would kill me. Better that than dementia.
Couldn’t agree more. I’ve been poleaxed twice:1973 after travelling around England for university interviews and 1978/9 working in retail. As you say, inflenza or something else? So glad I’ve never had the jab.
No one ever explained why supermarket workers weren’t dropping dead in droves during spring 2020.
They should be ashamed of themselves. Leave the kids alone.
Ahead of last winter’s “flu season,” the Two Old Geezers explaining why flu vaccines don’t work as “just 11% of ‘flu’ cases are caused by influenza…”
https://staging.dailysceptic.org/2024/10/29/just-11-of-flu-cases-are-caused-by-influenza-no-wonder-the-vaccines-dont-work/
“…The second problem is that no one knows the precise burden of influenza morbidity or mortality, as no surveillance system is capable of routinely distinguishing influenza and influenza-like illness, and no one carries out routine autopsies to identify a microbiological cause of death. So, guesswork rules.
These simple biology facts are seldom mentioned by physicians and the media.”
Only to be expected after throwing £200+M on an “inquiry” that never investigated Covid “vaccines” (their test results, efficacy and side-effects), the “science” behind mask mandates and the real world versus the modelling of Neil Ferguson, among many other things.
I just hope granny doesn’t get dosed with midazolam and morphine this time round.
This is the flu jab which in the US has been shown to have an effectiveness of minus 27 percent! Is that what will save granny?
Yes, I heard that last year’s influenza vaccine actually increased your chance of catching flu and presumably increase the chance of killing granny.
This year’s vaccine round where we live seems to be having the same effect. Why, even someone I know who is vaccinated to the hilt has begun to question whether it’s the right thing to do. She got the vaccination and on the way out the person who had stabbed her explained that it probably wouldn’t work as it was based on last year’s flu. She promptly got a really bad dose of flu which is still lingering and is wondering why she bothered. Her family have been telling her not to do it for years and maybe now she’ll listen…
Notice how there’s no mention of the false positivity rate of the test, or the fact that the so-called ‘viral strain’ doesn’t exist outside of a computer database!
Is Wes Streeting going to release a moronic Christmas single?
Don’t kill your gran at Christmas time
Leave her all alone
Don’t kill your gran at Christmas time
She’s safer on her own
You’ve not seen her all year
Now’s not the time to be bad
Don’t kill your gran at Christmas time
Leave her lonely and sad
Don’t invite her round for dinner
To share in the good cheer
You may well give her flu
And she’ll be dead before new year
Don’t give your gran a kiss
It might be the kiss of death
Don’t even try to hug her
She could die just from your breath
Don’t kill your gran at Christmas time
You’ll end up missing her a lot
Don’t kill your gran at Christmas time
Get a dodgy flu shot
Don’t give him ideas!
Dear Will, I’ve just been shown this headline of the Health Service Journal (HSJ) known as the NHS mandarins gazette (paid by the taxpayers). I thought you might find interesting.
Six-fold variation in staff vaccination rates revealed
By Matt Discombe 5 December 2025
Fewer than one in 10 frontline NHS staff have been vaccinated at some trusts, despite public appeals from NHS England ahead of this winter.
Could more flu cases have anything to do with people having a damaged immune system?
There’s no good evidence that there are more cases, it’s just an earlier season likely to follow the usual bell curve. It’s all misinformation by “experts “.
Wow
Hard pass.
Where is the trial that proves someone would have contracted flu if they had not received this mRNA flu shot?
Careful with that type of sensible idea 😂
Sorry 😔
Influenza is seasonal and there has been some research to suggest sudden drops in temperature are part of the reason.
Just wondering if the sudden cold spell we had a few weeks ago is part of this pattern
No child’s immune system should be interfered with unless there are highly compelling reasons and a threat to their own life. Are these doctors deranged? The jab barely works in any case.
It is well known in the USA flu shots are less than 40% or less effective. and that they put vaccinees at higher risk of getting the flu. Why doesn’t the UK know this?
How do you test for flu? How and where did these children get tested?
Not listening. They tried this last time and we are still recovering from lockdown.
i wouldn’t believe any of these idiots again
I find it worrying that nearly half of kids have had the flu vax. That’s parental neglect / abuse. Just say no.