Two-Tier Taxes

What we increasingly observe from today’s taxation system is a financial form of ‘anarcho-tyranny’: punishing the habitually law-abiding in ever harsher ways for petty infringements, whilst letting the habitually law-breaking get away with whatever they like. Think of fining a doddery pensioner £500 for accidentally dropping a sweet-wrapper, whilst letting criminal gypsies get away with burning entire mounds of toxic waste. Do comparable two-tier standards now exist in the UK taxation system too? Yes, just somewhat more invisibly than a giant flaming waste-pile burning next to some static caravans on an illegally occupied school playing-field.          

I recently spoke to someone anonymous who had the misfortune of working for HMRC in London during the 1980s, before quitting in disillusionment. He – or she, or xe, I’m revealing nothing – called the entire operation both “mind-bendingly boring” and “staggering” in its “inefficiency and lethargy”. But there was one aspect of the work which did prove intriguingly efficient: the unwritten rule of determinedly not investigating any Pakistanis or Indians for tax-fraud if the inspectors could possibly help it. This was just “too much hassle”, because:   


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MajorMajor
MajorMajor
4 months ago

As the current government has no clue how to “grow the economy” (and in any case, it is doubtful that a leftist government would even want to do that), the only thing they have left is to squeeze as much out of businesses and taxpayers as they can.
Furthermore, the only thing the government is actually capable of doing is legislation: more and more rules, regulations, red tape, reporting, paperwork, bureaucracy.
In the meantime, you pay your plumber cash and he charges you a bit less.

Hester
Hester
4 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

They are burning the oil fields, they know they are finished so they are going hell for leather to cause as much disruption, pain and Communism on the country that it will take decades to reverse. Just look at the damage Blair did, destroying the constitution which served the Country for millenia, bringing in Judges, the ECHR to preside over us, Quangos, filling the institutions with hard Labourites, he is our very own Karl Marx, Starmer is his monstrous child, determines to destroy the productive class, and bring in a class of welfare recipients who will do what they are told in return for strictly, kebabs and the odd shag with something that can walk and chew at the same time

Mogwai
4 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

The internet keeps receipts, and you never have to look far to find an example of their sheer hypocrisy. ( 2022 );

”Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak have broken the law and repeatedly lied to the British public.

They must both resign.

The Conservatives are totally unfit to govern. Britain deserves better.”

https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1513863475759566853

JohnK
4 months ago

The £zero tactic was not limited to the HMRC. Years ago, I owned a car that had zero road tax (when it was variable depending on official emission values) – but I had to pay the DVLA £0 online every year, on pain of not paying at all.

Purpleone
4 months ago
Reply to  JohnK

‘Government’ and ‘competent systems’ are not things you usually see together. Testing should have highlighted the zero point before it got anywhere near production systems…

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 months ago
Reply to  JohnK

Other people spending
Other people’s money on what
Other people tell them are
Other people’s problems.

Recipe for disaster.

Hester
Hester
4 months ago

If everyone just makes a hash of the system, it will screw them up, involve much time of their part, working from home in trying to sort it out, and eventually they will give up. They cannot jail everyone. Let’s remember who pays for these would be Masters, we do. Why do they take our money from us? So they can give it to their client class, the lazy, the multiple children breeder who otherwise could not support their lifestyle, the criminal who has broken into the country, and of course such that they can have higher salaries than us, from our work, so they can have gold plated Pensions which we are not allowed, from our work, such that they can work short hours, from home, from our work. Its time that the Private Industry worker, the responsible individual who has provided for their own retirement, its time we all noticed who the real enemy is. If we all say NO, if we jam up their systems to control us, if we work together to resist their tyranny and theft then this Government and the Parasite class will fall. But if we just keep toeing the line, working harder… Read more »

TomAngel
TomAngel
4 months ago
Reply to  Hester

This can only work if everyone is mobilised. But it’s somewhat essential that we do . Is there a centralised movement to orchestrate this?

Ravin Mad
Ravin Mad
4 months ago

Beware! One of the benefits of MTD to the HMRC apparently is going to be their ability to cross reference anyone’s digital records, so both sides of a cash deal (between sole traders say) will need to agree not to put something through their books or there’s a bigger risk of being found out. That’s if you trust them not to grass you up for suggesting it.

EppingBlogger
4 months ago
Reply to  Ravin Mad

Gordon Brown accelerated the payment of tax by companies as well as private individuals so he collected at least an extra year’s worth in his time as Chgancellor. Of course, he spent it all as well as borrowed more.

With quarterly accounting settled in we can be sure HMRC will want payments on-account every quarter.They insist businesses and the publ;ic account accurately and promptly but they don’t.

See my posting above re College of Policing. See also the huge revisions made to data issued by ONS. Try asking your local council about how many houses have been built – I expect they will direct you to a report published long after the previous year end; no quarterly or prompt results from them.

Look up when your councils’ financial audits were signed off over recent years. Very many were years in arrears.

Gezza England
Gezza England
4 months ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

Look up when your councils’ financial audits were signed off over recent years. Very many were years in arrears.

What do you mean ‘were’ – many councils still are year behind in providing accounts. Imagine trying that as a proper business.

shred
shred
4 months ago

Last year’s budget bunged pay rises to government employees and unions, with welfare increased in line with inflation, while taxes were raised to pay for it.

This year the need for tax increases on businesses, investors and savers were blamed on another of her holes, which she knew didn’t exist, but was really to pay for more government employees in HMRC and Net Zero costs and a hefty bribe to big breeders on the welfare game and to maximise numbers essential for the postal voting religion.

soundofreason
soundofreason
4 months ago

The reference to certain groups banking with particular banks and that causing problems for HMRC reminded me:

I was very peripherally involved in the closing of BCCI (Bank of Crooks and Criminals International). The criminality of the bank’s owners was only matched by the crooks from the big consultancies who strung out the post close-down audits until there was no money left.

RTSC
RTSC
4 months ago

All part of “The Great Reset” and the WEF agenda for complete control.

Having recently watched an HMRC briefing on the introduction of MTD, I won’t have to comply for several years because the income from my small BtL is well below the (current) thresholds for compulsory usage.

So I reckon I have 2 -3 years before I serve notice on the tenants that I intend to sell the property and they will have to either buy it, or vacate it.

Jon Garvey
4 months ago
Reply to  RTSC

But as I understand it the law will tell you to sell it them less the rent they have paid.

EppingBlogger
4 months ago

The College of Policing [Limited Companies House number 08235199] was founded in 2012 by the Home Secretary (Theresa May) as a company limited by guarantee. She said at the time “Its role is very straightforward: it is to provide professional standards for policing and to help police officers and staff meet those standards throughout their careers. It is to seek out best practice, as supported by firmly-established evidence, and to encourage officers to adopt it. And it is to ensure that officers and staff understand and comply with the highest ethical standards.” It took over a number of training and development roles that were formerly the responsibility of the National Policing Improvement Agency (NPIA). The National Police Library was also transferred from the NPIA at that time. Accounts and annual report to 31 March 2024 were not published until 2 July 2025. It is 176 pages long. The report by the Comptroller and Auditor General was heavily qualified because accounting records were deficient. The Registrar of Companies had published a notice to strike off the College of Policing (ie to dissolve it) on 3 June 2025 for its failure to file accounts. Despite this the CEO stated in his report “I confirm that the… Read more »

JXB
JXB
4 months ago

The welfare-state has always cost more than the amount of wealth generated in the economy could provide in taxes to cover it. The result then from the beginning was borrowing to cover the short-fall. Borrowing consumes more taxes to service the debt which requires more borrowing to replace the tax receipts servicing the debt. The more something ie taxed, the less of it you get. So taxing economic activity more reduces it thereby reducing tax receipts. This inevitably means more borrowing and higher taxes. Added to this the welfare-state has grown exponentially in scope and cost. Tax and borrow has had to keep pace. In addition more labour resource is required to administer it = non-wealth generating. Add to this printing of money to repay principal sum borrowed and pay the increased government activity. Putting increasing amounts of money which is not created from wealth generating production, but from borrowing and printing into the economy = inflation. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer. Asset prices keep pace with or even are ahead of inflation and often bring a return. The wealthier someone is, the more capital they have in assets. Inflation then makes rich people richer. Wages lag… Read more »

Gezza England
Gezza England
4 months ago
Reply to  JXB

The Great Donald has hit the nail on the head by stating that immigration is ruining our economies – along with Net Stupid Zero – but of course he is stopping it and putting it into reverse. Where do we have anyone to do that here other than Tommy Robinson? It certainly isn’t Farage who naively still talks about integrating the scum we have here not deporting them.

huxleypiggles
4 months ago
Reply to  Gezza England

Farage is Uniparty.

huxleypiggles
4 months ago
Reply to  JXB

As I have posted more than once, our government has declared war on the people of this country and particularly the wealth creating Patriots.

psychedelia smith
4 months ago

MTD is simply a ruse for our sock puppets to further hammer small businesses and further erode and destroy the economy for the benefit of Blackrock and the rest of the predator class who are poised to hoover up the wreckage.

huxleypiggles
4 months ago

Seconded 👍

huxleypiggles
4 months ago

I was told ‘we avoid investigating Asian businesses because it’s impossible to get any records out of the banks they use, we can’t work out who earns what because it’s spread across numerous family members, and if we start an investigation we get accused of racism and they claim they can’t understand what we’re saying because they can’t speak English’. Of course none of this was written down… all the tax office staff wanted was an easy life, so they put the screws on the easiest people to pursue. Asian businesses were simply too much trouble to chase.”

This was standard procedure in DWP. I was heavily involved in Fraud cases. Bloody hell the things the Indian subcontinent got away with.

Basically, DWP is a wholly corrupt organisation.

transmissionofflame
4 months ago

I recently spoke to someone anonymous who had the misfortune of working for HMRC in London during the 1980s,”

40 years later and they still feel the need to remain anonymous? Surely they are protected by whistleblower laws?
This fake anti racist anti white virus is deadlier than COVID

TomAngel
TomAngel
4 months ago

This is the most blatant drive to digitise our lives . The Brit card is least of our worries . Say no to digital ID. But how? They are forcing it upon us. How do we fight this ?

JeremyP99
4 months ago

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/11/29/working-families-18k-worse-off-benefit-claimants-budget/

Fuck’s sake. Why work?

“Families on modest incomes will be £18,000 worse off than jobless parents claiming benefits following Rachel Reeves’s abolition of the two-child cap in the Budget, an analysis has found.

A family with three children that has at least one parent claiming the average rates of Universal Credit (UC), combined with other benefits, will receive up to £46,000 by next year, according to the Centre for Social Justice (CSJ).

That compares with the £28,000 take-home earnings of a family where one adult is working full-time, and another part-time, on the national living wage.”

Pembroke
Pembroke
4 months ago

So from what you’re saying is it looks like my next business should bank with The Bank of Islamabad, or similar rather than Barclays or Nat west?