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transmissionofflame
4 months ago

Apropos of nothing, I remember reading in the Arabian Nights all about African slaves held by I guess the Arabs. Are they going to be paying reparations too?
Expanding on this theme, weren’t the Neanderthals the original inhabitants of Europe? We then got colonised by Africans. I’m calling for reparations for anyone with Neanderthal DNA. You heard it here first.

MajorMajor
MajorMajor
4 months ago

Indeed.
And for centuries the Ottoman Empire kidnapped people from Eastern Europe and enslaved them – please can I have some compensation too, as I’m from that part of Europe.
As an example with British connections, see the story of Florence (Lady) Baker. She was sold as a slave in 1859. Only she was lucky enough to be “bought” (and then of course freed) by a decent English gentleman.

Heretic
Heretic
4 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

What a fascinating historical snippet— I’d never heard of Lady Florence Baker before, so thanks for drawing attention to her remarkable life.

stewart
4 months ago

The Romans colonised Britain. I feel a bit of trauma coming on when I think of the brutal treatment my ancestors suffered under the Romans. Who do we apply to for reparations? The Italian government? The Pope?

MajorMajor
MajorMajor
4 months ago
Reply to  stewart

I share your trauma. Especially when you mention reparations.

Dinger64
4 months ago

Ireland took thousands of young, usually male, slaves from the west coast of Britain during the 3rd and 4th centuries, at 16 years old St Patrick was one of them!
Reparations Mehole Martin?

Mogwai
4 months ago

Speaking of human rights for dangerous criminals, I totally agree with Frank Haviland here. What I find incredulous, and more than a bit messed up and hypocritical, is that there are more MPs in favour of decriminalizing killing a baby up to full-term than there are in favour of bringing back capital punishment for the most heinous of crimes. Make that make sense. I’m glad Rupert Lowe brought this up in Parliament, but he got the response that you’d fully expect from the morally bankrupt goons; ”I have written previously in favour of a reintroduction of the death penalty in Britain, and before you accuse me of being an unmitigated blowhard, let me say from the outset that I am genuinely sympathetic to both sides of the argument; it is a deeply problematic issue. While, as an atheist, I am not persuaded by religious opposition, I am absolutely on board with the imperative to eradicate bias, human error, and bad faith actors from the proceedings. Nonetheless, for the most egregious crimes—particularly the murder of children—I maintain that purely on moral grounds, those who deny victims their fundamental right to life should immediately forfeit their own. By robbing victims—and their families—of birthdays, milestones,… Read more »

JDee
JDee
4 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

What religious opposition? From Judeo Christian perspective the death penalty was instigated with Noah after the flood story, as a deterrent to the anarchy which had lead up to the flood. In particular it needs to be handled by the state to stop blood feuds , and so it’s not something to be requested by the victims family. I agree there are certain cases where there is absolutely no doubt and the penalty can be safely applied, and in doing so it maintains human dignity because it properly punishes those who absolutely deny it. The command is do no murder not, not to kill

Heretic
Heretic
4 months ago
Reply to  JDee

We need to remember that the Ten Commandments handed down by Moses were first for Hebrews only, not to commit adultery with or murder their fellow Hebrews, for example. They were free to do all those things to Gentiles, as Moses himself proved when the first thing he did as an adult, by way of showing his gratitude to the Egyptian Princess who had adopted him as a baby and raised him in royal luxury, was to MURDER AN EGYPTIAN MAN, after Moses saw the Egyptian slap his own Hebrew servant. Moses then helped the Egyptian’s Hebrew servant BURY THE EGYPTIAN’S BODY IN THE SAND.

JDee
JDee
4 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

You are wrong about it only applying to how they treat each other. Do I dedect some anti-Semitism there? Cain was condemned for murder before any Jewish law existed. The law to Noah was before any Jew or Jewish law existed. Why are you making it about the Jews with a negative spin. I am not sure what you mean by ‘free to’. We are all potentially free to transgress any law, and then it’s a case of do you get away with it or not. King David Israel’s greatest ever king was also a murderer and an adulterer. So what do you mean he wasn’t free to if it was against fellow Jews? You completely miss the point of the Jews being chosen and hate them for it, because you think it is meant to mean they are better, when it most emphatically doesn’t. They were chosen as a people to bring forth the Christ and the cultural context for his work to make sense, and the fact that they seemingly made every effort not to is part of the story.

Mogwai
4 months ago

When what constitutes an actual ‘crime’ has been redefined over the years, this is what you end up with; ”According to Home Office data, only six per cent of victim-based crime resulted in a charge last year. So, yes, reports of domestic burglary may be down – but in half of the country, not a single burglary has been solved in the past three years. In more than 160 parts of London, the Met Police failed to solve a single neighbourhood crime over the same period. For some crimes, the police have stopped bothering altogether. Two months ago, the police announced they won’t investigate bike thefts at train stations if the bike has been left for more than two hours. It’s effectively waving the white flag to thieves. That’s why ‘crime’ is down. It’s why you also get the same fake ‘crime is down’ stats in New York City or Chicago. Crime isn’t down. Police simply aren’t responding, investigating, or taking reports, and in many cases, people are no longer bothering to call the police. Crime, under the Starmer regime, is simply the new normal. It’s all part of being enriched by Pakistan. Snatch theft, for instance, rose a whopping… Read more »

Old Arellian
Old Arellian
4 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Not strictly to do with this specific post but following on from stuffed dummy Starmer failing to walk and talk at the same time – his [hysterical] stumble walking into the G20 grift gathering – No 10 are apparently asking broadcasters to remove the footage!!!!!!! As Guido says: sounds like North Korea.

Dinger64
4 months ago

“The greatest threat to the economy? The Employment Rights Bill”

No, the Labour, Greens, liberals and Tory parties!

Tonka Rigger
4 months ago

“Almost five years after the crisis, Hallett and her crew have run up a monstrous tab and come up with a giant nothingburger…”

Gosh, really? I certainly didn’t see that coming.

NeilParkin
4 months ago
Reply to  Tonka Rigger

Took five years to find a carpet big enough to sweep the whole sorry mess under.

Heretic
Heretic
4 months ago

May I add this to today’s Round-Up: Troubles legacy legislation not a national security threat, Benn says – BBC News “New legacy bill passes next stage at Westminster” “Last week, nine senior former military officers raised concerns over the bill and warned that “lawfare” had become a “direct threat to national security”.” It IS a “National Security Threat” !!! THIS is the whole crux of the matter: “THE MEASURES WERE AGREED IN A JOINT FRAMEWORK WITH THE IRISH GOVERNMENT.” WHAT ???!!! Why on earth is our own UK government COLLUDING WITH A FOREIGN POWER to prosecute our own British Army veterans, just to please that FOREIGN POWER? This is TREASON. There is no public demand for this lawfare. No British citizens want our own British Army veterans to be hounded by money-grubbing lawyers and bent judges and “investigation committees” staffed by Catholics motivated solely by REVENGE. Ireland is a HOSTILE FOREIGN POWER, which fomented and encouraged IRA CATHOLIC TERRORIST ATTACKS on the sovereign territory of the United Kingdom for decades, partially funded by Catholics in foreign countries, in which thousands of British citizens were murdered and grievously wounded, including elected British politicians in the 1984 Brighton Hotel Bombing, a direct… Read more »

Tonka Rigger
4 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

Good, in a way. The more the government turn the Armed Forces against them, the better. 👍

All we need now are senior Officers with the backbone to do what needs to be done.

Heretic
Heretic
4 months ago
Reply to  Tonka Rigger

You do have a point, but it will be no comfort to those brave military veterans who are now, and will continue to be, if this outrageous bill passes, dragged through the courts for decades to come, in order to satisfy the Endless Vindictive Bloodlust of Catholic Terrorists.

This bill must be thrown out, and Boris Johnson’s Legacy Act restored in its entirety.

Unlike most other politicians, HE KEPT HIS PROMISE to the Armed Forces of the United Kingdom, and he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for it.

Tonka Rigger
4 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

It doesn’t have to continue for decades, there is a solution.

Heretic
Heretic
4 months ago
Reply to  Tonka Rigger

Yes. The House of Lords can throw it out, without amendments or anything. Just chuck the whole thing in the bin, and restore Boris Johnson’s Legacy Act.