What Will it Mean in the Future to be English?

All the recent flag-waving has sent me back to one of the best attempts to define the concept of national identity: Ernest Renan’s famous essay ‘Qu’est-ce qu’une nation?’ (‘What is a nation?’), originally delivered as a lecture at the Sorbonne in 1882. This 24-page oration is a masterpiece of Cartesian reasoning, taking the reader point by point through what a nation is not to a definition of what it is in ways that throw light on the nature of English and British identity.

For Renan, what defines a nation is not its race, language, religion, economy or geography.  He does not say that these are of no significance, just that they are not essential elements of nationhood.

First, he has no truck with 19th-century biological ideas of race. He has only contempt for those who go around, as he put it,  measuring people’s skulls and then grabbing them by the throat, saying ‘you are one of our race, you belong to us’. As for ‘race’ in the common 19th-century non-biological sense of a group of people with similar historical and cultural identities, he finds that perfectly acceptable and, as we shall see, at the heart of his concept of a nation.   

Second, language both is not and should not be a determining factor. Speaking not long after the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71, in which Prussia captured Alsace-Lorraine, Renan was keen to combat German claims that because people in an area spoke German this meant it ought to become part of the new German Empire. He does not deny that language can be a unifying force, just that by itself it is not enough.

Third, practising a particular religion may have been obligatory in most previous societies, but from the perspective of France’s Third Republic those primitive days were now long past. Religion is therefore no longer at the centre of national identity, though once again he did not deny that it might be part of a homogeneous culture contributing to nationhood. 

Fourth, least important of all, is the idea that a community of economic interests might shape a sense of national identity. “A customs union is not a country,” Renan argues. One cannot imagine him relishing the ever more intrusive customs union that is the current EU. 

Finally, although Renan can see how geography may in some cases have influenced the shape of nation states it is not geography by itself that turns a piece of territory into a nation. A nation, he argued, is ‘a spiritual family, not a group of people determined by the configuration of the ground’. 

Renan’s overall conclusion therefore is that it is none of these five things but human beings who are everything in the formation of this ‘spiritual family’ or ‘soul’ he calls a nation.   

But what does the nation as a ‘soul’ mean? To Renan it means two things.

First, it refers to the past. A nation must be based on ‘a rich legacy of memories’ arising from a long past of shared efforts, sufferings, sacrifices, achievements and glories. Members of a nation must know about and revere the ancestors who created the world they have inherited, but also not ignore the regrets that nations usually have about things done badly.

Second, it refers to the present. For a nation to exist its members must consent to being a part of it and have a wish to live with each other as members of one community. What is needed is what Renan famously called un plébiscite de tous les jours (a plebiscite daily renewed). It is this phrase that has sometimes been seized upon by globalists suggesting that the whole idea of a nation is imaginary, fake, a chimera. It does no such thing. It is simply a reminder that any social entity is fragile and requires continual effort to ensure it is constantly renewed.

What do Renan’s two elements of nationhood – the ‘rich legacy of memories’ and the need for a daily plebiscite – tell us about the sense of English and British national identity as we find it today?

They tell us how far we now are from being a nation in Renan’s sense of the word. To Renan a nation must have a population linked to its ancestors, a pride in its past, a strong sense of belonging and a willingness to give the nation priority when it clashes with other loyalties. Despite still being hugely important for many people, all these qualities have been systematically undermined during the past 40 years through a combination of forces, including:

  • mass migration on a scale never previously known, bringing into the country huge numbers of people from cultures very different from our own, giving us in particular a Muslim population of 6% predicted to rise to 10% by 2050 and 20% by 2100;
  • the promotion of the idea of multiculturalism, which has been rapidly turning us into one of those plurally monocultural societies well-known for their bad track record for cohesion and effectiveness;
  • the dominance of a radical progressive elite that prioritises individual rights over communal needs, identities of race, colour, sex and sexuality over the nation, and the interests of ‘oppressed’ minorities over those of the majority; and
  • universities and schools that see the past as a bad place.

The signs that we are a nation beginning to lose some of Renan’s defining characteristics are a daily part of our lives. A survey of 15-18 year-olds shows 42% reporting that they had been taught at school that their country was racist. A survey of 18-27 year-olds shows only 41% feeling proud of their country and only 11% willing to fight for it. School census data earlier this year show white British pupils as a minority in one in four schools, with 72 schools without a single white British pupil and 454 schools where they make up less than 2% of the population. Whole areas of some cities now feel very different from other parts of the country, are run by people who put the Islamic Ummah before the nation, form their own political party, set up sharia councils, organise fun runs that exclude women and girls and  only offer halal meat at school meals.

Despite more and more people speaking out about these matters the term ‘racist’ (apparently as a matter of Labour Government policy) continues to be thrown at anyone departing from the orthodox narrative that ‘all shall be well and all manner of thing shall be well’. This was shown most strikingly by recent attacks on the Reform UK MP Sarah Pochin who, while using words carelessly that understandably caused offence, nonetheless made the valid point that there is something deeply concerning about a report showing that over 50% of all advertisements on British television channels include a black person when at the last census only 4.2% of the population in England, 0.8% in Wales, 1.2% in Scotland and 0.6% in Northern Ireland self-identified as such. Virtually no one rushed to the defence of her main point, with the honourable exception of the Associate Editor of the Daily Sceptic.

The report’s significance was that it highlighted how television is already presenting us daily with an image of where the country is predicted to be by 2063 when, on current trends and according to Matthew Goodwin’s recent estimates, those identifying as ‘white British’ will be in a minority. To describe as ‘racist’ anyone protesting about being daily reminded that they are living through the largest movement of peoples since the collapse of the Roman Empire, as the Prime Minister did, is displacement activity of the most pathological kind.

The Independent’s response to Goodwin’s study was to carry an article headed ‘Who cares that Britain is on course to be minority white?‘ The answer as seen through Renan’s characterisation of nations is loud and clear: the indigenous English and British (whatever their ethnicity) are fearful that the “rich tapestry of memories” about this country and the knowledge of all the “ancestors” who have lived in these islands will have been replaced for a majority of the population by a multiplicity of heritages.

Sadly, if immigration had been kept within strict limits, and a programme of integration pursued, Renan’s concept of a nation, which rejected anything based on ethnicity, would have permitted many new immigrants not just to become British through the grant of citizenship but also to feel English – as earlier ones already have and many current ones still do – through an identification with England and its customs and history. But what might work with small minorities making an important contribution to the country will not work with the levels of immigration successive governments have imposed on us. Even if major reductions could be achieved, much of the de-indigenisation predicted by Matthew Goodwin is already built into our future and may be irreversible.

Are we likely to be able to rebuild a Renan-type nation or save those bits of it that remain? Probably not. A policy of near zero immigration from countries with radically different cultures, a national plan to promote more integrated communities and a school system that fosters pride in national identity instead of undermining it – all these might help, but even if we had a government committed to doing all this, is it conceivable that currently we could find the people needed to put it into practice? I am not hopeful.

Dr Nicholas Tate was chief executive of England’s curriculum and assessment agencies 1994-2000 and adviser to French ministers of national education 2000-2005. He is currently Adviser to the Mathias Corvinus Collegium (MCC) in Hungary. He is the author of Seven Books that Everyone Once Read and No One Now Does.

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EppingBlogger
5 months ago

The answer to the headline question: slavery if we do not act very soon.

MajorMajor
MajorMajor
5 months ago

Looking at the process of the deanglification of England, the sad thing is that, by and large, this took place without significant resistance from the English.
There was no foreign occupation, it was British politicians that were in charge. It’s clear that they are responsible but who voted for them? Why were there no mass protests? Why did the population accept these leaders?
How is it possible that nations, sometimes occupied by foreign powers can survive and retain nationhood (Greece, the Baltic states, Poland, etc) whereas others meekly accept being diluted to the extent where their very existence is threatened?
Mysterious, isn’t it?
If the English don’t want to disappear, why are there hundreds of labour MPs in parliament and only a handful of Reform?

Heretic
Heretic
5 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

Not once has the Reform party or Nigel Farage ever stood up for the right of the Indigenous English People to exist and live peacefully among their own English Tribe of White People. Remember how he called Tommy Robinson “scum”. Remember how Nigel chose yet another Ethnic Indian Subcontinental Muslim to financially control the Reform Party. Even Tommy declared that he didn’t want to live in a white country (little danger of that), and joined a party controlled by yet another Ethnic Pakistani Millionaire born and raised in Pakistan. Even the Scottish National Party’s Alex Salmond castigated his own Scottish staff for saying the Indigenous Scots should come first on social housing lists in Scotland, and he forbade them to ever even say the word “Indigenous” in his presence again.

Only Truthtellers like Enoch Powell and Nick Griffin and other brave ones stood up for the right of the Indigenous English, Scots, Welsh & Irish to exist in their own ancestral homelands, and they were ruthlessly vilified for it, their whole lives and careers destroyed.

Heretic
Heretic
5 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

And have you seen the “Poppy Cascades” of thousands of red poppies knitted by church ladies for Remembrance Day, pouring like a Ghoulish Blood Sacrifice from the church towers down to the ground? It’s nauseating and demonic, like some occult blood ritual celebrating the deaths of millions of military veterans. “Rivers of Blood”, like the Tower of London moat filled with red poppies like blood. It’s horrific.

One veteran of a foreign war told me that when you’ve seen active service in a real war, with blood & guts spilling all around you, flowing from your brothers-in-arms, dead and dying, and from your own wounds, you don’t want to watch horror movies anymore, or see fake “Rivers of Blood”, because you have experienced it in real life.

Grim Ace
Grim Ace
5 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

Yep. The National Front and the BNP were right, weren’t they? And we ‘nice’ British people ignored them and derided and insulted them – because we were taught and told to by the system.
The BBC and the establishment have been peddling their preferred version of the world (global communism) for decades, and we have sucked it up.

Heretic
Heretic
5 months ago
Reply to  Grim Ace

Yes, and even the BNP drove Nick Griffin out, and are now reportedly controlled by Closet Leftists, as “Controlled Opposition”.

Remember that Muslim man who turned up at a police station years ago seemingly on his last legs, saying that a BNP gang had kidnapped him, drove him to a woodland, beat him to a pulp and left him to die?

The newspapers were full of it, but when the man’s allegations were discovered by thorough police investigations to be false, and his injuries self-inflicted, the media didn’t want to know, and didn’t report it.

transmissionofflame
5 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

Many are too thick to realise

MajorMajor
MajorMajor
5 months ago

Well, then that’s the end of England.
Ultimately, if a nation cannot stand up and protect itself, then other stronger, more powerful nations can subdue and assimilate them. It wouldn’t be the first time in history.

transmissionofflame
5 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

A great shame. Criminal. Sinful. Indeed not the first time.

Heretic
Heretic
5 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

I was thinking that when I read about the Ethnic African filth who stabbed all those train passengers, but spared one woman because she crouched down before him and begged “Please don’t kill me”. You can imagine how that must have bloated his ego, to see the white woman kneeling before him and begging for her life, instead of bravely having a go. If ten of them had piled onto him, they would have overpowered him at once, and punched him up for good measure. Easy to say in hindsight, I know, but we should teach our children, even our girls, to defend themselves, especially when attackers are usually going to kill you anyway. “Attack is the best form of defence”, as they say.

Fight and fight and fight to the death, and do not surrender!

mrbu
mrbu
5 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

My feeling is that there was no resistance because it crept up on the majority of the indigenous British population. The UK has experienced discrete periods of immigration over its history, such as in the aftermath of the Norman Conquest (maybe a special case), or influxes of Jewish people fleeing persecution in Europe, likewise the Huguenots. Even after the Second World War, with foreign labour arriving to help stop gaps in the labour market and help rebuild the economy. Those immigrants seem by and large to have arrived in small enough numbers to be absorbed into the local communities and take on a sense of belonging here. But in more recent decades we have seen a growing stream of immigration, focussed initially on urban centres, and going largely unperceived by the British people as a whole. It is only in the last few years, with the stream turning into a flood, the proportion of immigrants entering illegally increasing, and in more obvious ways such as in the backs of lorries or dinghies, and then being accommodated outside the major urban centres, while failing to adopt British culture and speak English, that the British people have cottoned on to what is… Read more »

JXB
JXB
5 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

British politicians, not English ones and in fact even they haven’t been in charge since we were signed up to rule by EEC/EU, international bodies, committees, and “International Law”.

Heretic
Heretic
5 months ago

1) The ancient Greek philosopher Plato said that democracy only works in societies that are SMALL & ETHNICALLY HOMOGENOUS.

2) Why do all these articles question the right of the English Tribe of The World’s Smallest Ethnic Group = Ethnic Europeans = White People to exist? It seems a Globalist obsession.

3) Why do they never ask “What will it mean in the future to be Scots? Or Welsh? Or Irish? Or Indian?”

Grim Ace
Grim Ace
5 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

Don’t care about the Indians. There are billions of them and they are everywhere. Which is annoying. As for the Scots, Irish and Welsh. They are my British brethren and I care foe their existance, too.

Heretic
Heretic
5 months ago
Reply to  Grim Ace

I think Scots Patriot Leo Kearse would agree with you, because in one of his very funny videos, he said that in the old days, when he ventured south beyond the border and saw an England flag, he would feel a bit apprehensive and unwelcome. But now, whenever he sees the England flag flying, he feels happy and welcome, because he feels he is among “brethren”.

And so he is!

Grim Ace
Grim Ace
5 months ago

I disagree with the author ‘Sarah Pochin who, while using words carelessly that understandably caused offence,’ . I don’t care a jot if anyone was or is offended. This is my people’s country. It belongs to them and their children and grandchildren. I want most immigrants who have come here since 1997 to go.
There is a civil war baked into Britain now. There will be much suffering and woe, as there is in any civil war. And one side will win. The side that is most ruthless. Sadly, our political class, and immigrants don’t yet realise this.
We have lived in peace for far too long, and have become lazy about what it takes to protect what you have. This once peaceful land with a coherent, white population is now suffering from the importation of millions from the disorderly parts of the world. Daily our people are assaulted and murdered. I am surprised we have not yet reacted to this.
Remigration. Deportation. You know it makes sense.

transmissionofflame
5 months ago
Reply to  Grim Ace

Yeah I think his snide attack on Pochin is despicable.

Mogwai
5 months ago

5mins of Suella Braverman talking about this very topic;

“I would never describe myself as English. To me, there is something precious about that element of identity, and Englishness is something to do with heritage, with ancestry, with ethnicity, dare I say…

I think there needs to be a lineage that connects me to the English people, which isn’t there. And I don’t see that as a bad thing.”

”Suella Braverman is great.

She recognises a sensible distinction between the ethnicities native to the British Isles, to whom Britain belongs, and a legal status we can afford those from abroad who the indigenous majority consider friends and family.

Anyone who denies that English ethnicity exists is lying and trying to manipulate you.

Any relationship requires mutual recognition. If you deny that one group exists, you make those relationships impossible. If you champion “minorities” and then deny the “majority” an identity of their own, you are trying to exploit them.

Suella’s honesty and clarity is refreshing.”

https://x.com/Con_Tomlinson/status/1986041339968921990

Tonka Rigger
5 months ago

Dilution, subjugation and eventual extinction at this rate. Same as us Jocks, there aren’t many of us at all really.

Heretic
Heretic
5 months ago
Reply to  Tonka Rigger

That reminds me, when I was teaching English donkey’s years ago in South Korea, one of the young Korean teachers there said that she had gone on “her dream trip to Scotland” with some Korean friends, for which they had all saved up for a long time, but when they got there, they were shocked to find the streets and shops filled with people from the Third World, mainly Muslims and Africans. She said that she and her friends asked each other “Where are the Scots, and the tartans, and all the wonderful Scottish things we came so far to see?”

Tonka Rigger
5 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

Those things are away from the cities, in the small towns in the Highlands (mainly for the tourists, it must be said).

Inverness, as the “Capital of the Highlands” was an exception to the city rule, but they’ve just announced that 300 single, male “asylum seekers” are to be housed in the disused Cameron Barracks. Literally right next to military married quarters accommodation. Where the spouses and children of soldiers live.

Swinney, that balloon with a face drawn on it, is elated. Unsurprisingly.

Heretic
Heretic
5 months ago
Reply to  Tonka Rigger

What a shocking betrayal of our own Warriors, even endangering their families while they are away, unable to defend them!

It is deliberate, open Treason by those who were elected to protect the interests of the Indigenous Scottish People, and Swinney and his ilk should be arrested.

How on earth can the British Army top brass condone such deliberate endangerment of the families of serving troops? It is a shameful betrayal.

transmissionofflame
5 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

Yeah my first and probably last trip to Glasgow this summer I saw more brown than white people. In the Highlands they were mainly Scottish – and sheep. Crofters. Hard life. Lovely scenery.

transmissionofflame
5 months ago

“This was shown most strikingly by recent attacks on the Reform UK MP Sarah Pochin who, while using words carelessly that understandably caused offence”

What words were these, author? Don’t be snide, repeat what she said that you don’t like and tell us what’s wrong with it.

Offence is taken, not given.

Sorry mate I think you are part of the problem.

Answer to the question posed by the article- nothing. We will cease to exist.

Claphamanian
Claphamanian
5 months ago

What does it mean in the future to be Croatian or Lithuanian? Answer: just the same as it does now. Now mass immigration; no forgetting of history; no denigration of culture. And achieved with only with 3.8 million and 2.8 million people respectively.

Steven Robinson
Steven Robinson
5 months ago

Thank you, Nicholas Tate, for speaking up, even though, like me, you feel that the rot is irremediable and protest futile.

Tim
Tim
5 months ago

Excellent article.

The overriding value of a nation is the ability to rally support against an existential threat. In the past, the British sense of nationhood has never been stronger than when fighting great wars against dangerous enemies.

Now we are faced with the greatest invasion in our history, in which the indiginous population could be replaced, and our culture, heritage and liberties lost, and the majority of our people refuse to see it or even welcome it. They have been lulled by 80 years of European peace into believing that the threat from overseas has been permanently extinguished.

Cosca
Cosca
5 months ago

I wonder if the surviving Whites of the world will eventually have to flock together somewhere?

If they do they’ll have to arm themselves to the teeth and then fight forever against the forces who are determined to make Whites extinct, including traitorous fellow Whites.

JXB
JXB
5 months ago

A Nation forms around a society of people, and that society is determined by culture: shared language, values, morals, manners, heritage, outlook and laws. Culture is not determined by race as anyone with half a wit can see by looking round the World and noting the variety of languages and cultures within ethnic groups.

Nor is culture about hair braids and curries.

Culture is government of the people, by the people and for the people. (To borrow from John Wycliffe.)

Culture particularly allows self-government of the individual, and if all individuals in a society are self-governing according to the same cultural attributes, then the collective as a whole is self-governing. This brings social cohesion, unity, harmony, stability, peace and prosperity… and one identity.

It should be clear, that different cultures from different societies which have different governments. Putting different cultures under one “roof” is a recipe for conflict and eventual warfare. Whose culture/government dominates?

The British culture is unique and the most successful in the World to date. Therefore it cannot be “enriched” only adulterated, debauched, its society fragmented and brought into conflict. Which of course we now see daily on our streets.