If You’re Not Going to Label the Huntingdon Train Attack as ‘Terrorism’, at Least Change the Law so Mass Casualty Attacks are More Serious Than Murder

Last October, a light rail station five minutes from my home in Israel became the scene of a Hamas terror attack. Two militants opened fire on passengers, then turned to knives, killing seven and injuring 17. A young mother died shielding her nine month‑old son. Since that night, the shadow of that violence lingers every time I pass the station. The attack was unmistakably terrorism – planned, ideological and designed to spread fear. But as mass violence is increasingly evolving to include random or psychotically driven attacks, our laws and language must evolve for this new reality.

Just days ago, on November 1st, another train attack unfolded in the UK. On a London-bound service, Anthony Williams, a 32 year-old British man of Caribbean descent, moved through the carriages, stabbing passengers. Eleven people were hospitalised, nine with life-threatening injuries. Counter-terrorism police were initially deployed, though the authorities have since ruled the incident non-terrorist.

This decision sits uneasily with public sentiment. A knife attack on a crowded train instinctively registered as terrorist, especially only weeks after the Manchester synagogue attack. This discomfort stems from the UK’s legal definition of terrorism, which restricts charges to acts driven by ideological, political or religious motives. Without ideological motives, even the most frightening attacks are prosecuted as ordinary crimes, like murder or attempted murder.

In contrast, certain US terrorism statutes – such as those covering attacks on mass transportation – can trigger federal terrorism charges based on where the attack occurs, rather than requiring an ideological motive. Had the London train stabbing occurred on a US train it could fall under federal terrorism statutes that focus on attacks on mass transit, regardless of ideology. On August 22nd aboard Charlotte’s light rail, Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska was attacked by African American Decarlos Brown Jr. He was suffering from schizophrenia and slashed her throat from behind. She bled to death alone. Footage of the attack gripped the nation. Her murder becoming a rallying point for national political debate, particularly from the Right, and drew condolences from the White House. Despite no ideological motive, Brown was charged under the post-9/11 federal statute covering terrorist attacks on mass transportation and now faces the death penalty.

While the UK still demands ideological motive for terrorism prosecutions, recent tragedies have influenced tentative steps to address mass-casualty attacks outside that framework. A July 2024 assault in Southport England, where Axel Rudakubana stabbed nine young girls at a dance class – killing three – was not classified as terrorism. This sparked debate: if mass-casualty attacks exploit fear as effectively as political terror, should the law not respond with similar severity? Jonathan Hall KC, the UK’s Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation, proposed reforms. In March 2025 he outlined a new offence targeting large-scale random acts of violence on public transport or crowded places. This measure would stiffen penalties for non-ideologically motivated attacks that far exceed ordinary murder charges. This would empower prosecutors to frame atrocities like the London-bound train stabbings as assaults on public safety – not mere isolated crimes such as attempted murder, which fail to capture their scale of terror.

Beneath these incidents lies a troubling reality: mass violence is often linked to severe, untreated mental illness. Decarlos Brown Jr was not a stranger to the authorities; his schizophrenia diagnosis was well-documented. At the time of his attack, he was in a psychotic state, voicing delusions about being controlled by “material” in his body. Likewise, the London-bound train attacker was reportedly heard telling passengers “the devil is not going to win” during the rampage.

A higher prevalence of mental illness is reflected in certain ethnic communities. In the UK, black people are 3.5 times more likely to be detained under the Mental Health Act and are more likely to have had a psychotic disorder in the past year. Similarly, black Americans are three to four times more likely to be diagnosed with schizophrenia. Many of these cases were triggered by drug use. Despite the data, Britain continues inching toward cannabis legalisation, even though modern strains are far more potent and linked to increased psychosis. Perhaps lawmakers remember fondly the hashish from their youth and are unacquainted with the ‘weed on steroids’ strains of the modern day. If the legalisation proceeds, there will be more violent crimes committed by psychotic people.

It’s a grim picture, wherever you place blame – a society where mass violence is not only the domain of jihadists but increasingly being carried out by the mentally unwell.

All three train journeys – the one in Israel, in America, and England last week – were characterised by horrific violence, shattering the public’s sense of safety. As threats evolve, so too must the law. Justice must rise to meet the magnitude of harm. The UK’s legislative reform proposals signal a new era, where mass violence spreads fear as effectively as terror, even when no ideology guides the blade.

Anna Stanley is an open-source investigator specialising in extremism. She previously worked in intelligence roles for the UK Foreign Office and police. Find her on X.

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EppingBlogger
5 months ago

The name given to offences is largely immaterial when the judicial system is dysfunctional and penalties are seen as too low even before early release.

For their part the elites don’t want to be strict with criminals, unless they are middle class white. They refuse to deal with the causes of increased crime including schizophrenia often caused by cannabis use.

Mogwai
5 months ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

I don’t think staff at McDonald’s get paid enough to suffer this. The Khant’s London, selling itself again. They look like a ‘stop and search’ might prove fruitful;

”Migrant Somalis force their way into McDonald’s in Dalston, East London & assault an employee.

Deport them all.”

https://x.com/DaveAtherton20/status/1985290413348172123

huxleypiggles
5 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

The whole bloody lot need lining up and shooting.

Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
5 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Hard to disagree, these people are not “us” they are from a much more barbarous culture.

Mogwai
5 months ago

Well I’ve not heard of anyone dying so I do hope all of the victims make a full recovery, though you can expect the psychological after effects of something like this staying with them for a lot longer. I can imagine some being retraumatised just getting on a train again, especially if there’s people onboard who resemble the attacker;

”SCUNTHORPE United player Jonathon Gjoshe is in hospital after the mass stabbing on a train in Cambridgeshire the club said.
The 22-year-old defender is being treated for non-life threatening injuries confirmed the football club in a statement.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/37203630/scunthorpe-united-star-stabbed-knife-attack-huntingdon-train/

Jack the dog
Jack the dog
5 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

The government needs to do two things.

Legalise non lethal items like pepper spray, and really important, Recognise that the police cannot protect citizens adequately, allow the use of violence for self defence, with a presumption that excessive force may be justified in a panic situation, plus alliw self defence as an acceptable justification for carrying non lethal weaponry such as pepper spray, truncheons, pocket knives, empty jack Daniels bottles, socks full of coins. Etc.

The current laws were written for happier times and like most of the rest of the state apparatus, no longer fit for purpose.

GroundhogDayAgain
5 months ago
Reply to  Jack the dog

Violence is already allowed in self-defence, especially on your own property.

If could even result in the death of the attacker and the law should be on your side, although I’d definitely want it on video to be safe.

It crosses into illegality if you take it way too far, if you drove them off and follow intending to inflict injury, or if you went there with a weapon intent on violence.

But if he’s in your house, and you happen to stab him it’s likely to be accepted as a defence. If you stab him 20 times however…

Westfieldmike
Westfieldmike
5 months ago
Reply to  Jack the dog

Batons are illegal, an offensive weapon. However, a handle with a short heavy length of wire is not. I am buying one on Amazon. £14. Also, combat gloves with plastic knuckle protection are also available. I bought mine on ebay. You can punch as hard as you like without damaging your hands.

Jack the dog
Jack the dog
5 months ago
Reply to  Westfieldmike

Thanks for that.

However my point is that, as the police are manifestly unable, and possibly unwilling to defend us citizens the carrying of non-lethal items specifically for self defence must be made legal. At present according to black belt barrister, self defence is not a legitimate reason to carry anything.

It is totally unacceptable that while the bad guys swan around with knives and even firearms, citizens are left essentially defenceless.

Art Simtotic
5 months ago

Mass violence is often linked to severe, untreated mental illness…

…A higher prevalence of mental illness is reflected in certain ethnic communities.”

Join the dots.  

huxleypiggles
5 months ago

We cannot go on excusing these barbarians on “mental elf” grounds, we either export or top.

JFDI.

Western Firebrand
Western Firebrand
5 months ago

Many of these cases were triggered by drug use

Ironically, it’s in the aftermath of the “celebrations” of Halloween, our secular society rationalises away and fails to understand the dimension opened by false religions and substance abuse. We must therefore try to excuse these atrocities, in accordance with a mistaken belief that we have become more enlightened and that those who perpetrate them have somehow been failed by the rest of us.

huxleypiggles
5 months ago

I haven’t got a clue !

Western Firebrand
Western Firebrand
5 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

There’s a spiritual aspect to these things – in some ways I’d rather not know about.

Gezza England
Gezza England
5 months ago

Peter Hitchens has been pointing out the dangers of cannabis especially now it has changed from what the Islington liberal set took at Uni.

Boomer Bloke
5 months ago

This is not new, it has occurred under several governments of different stripes. And nothing has changed. We saw from 2 tier Kier’s rapid action against the demonstrators and purveyors of hurty words on social media last year and ongoing that there is a way when there is a political will, including emptying the prisons of rapists and other criminals. But only when the miscreants are white and angry (but not always middle aged and male). I do not know what to suggest, but I do not think that the solution involves more laws or voting harder.

ChrisA
ChrisA
5 months ago

Whatever he’s charged with is irrelevant as our pathetic legal system doesn’t actually punish, he should be dropped from a low height and left to swing, after having his hands cut off. Maybe then the next psycho crack head will get the message and not do this type of thing, with the only expectation being a nice free bed and board for a trivial number of years.

Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
5 months ago
Reply to  ChrisA

Psychosis is not prevented by exemplary actions, it’s not rational.

Once we left people like this to rot in asylums, care in the community was supposed to be kinder but all it has done is to subject society to many dangerous people amongst us.

I have no easy answers for the mentally ill, but for those with a different kind of murderous illness then we should not stay our hands.

Freddy Boy
5 months ago

Latest statement to lessen the risk of repeats of this type of horror from Clown Show Central is – To ban alcohol on trains 😳

Jackthegripper
Jackthegripper
5 months ago

How a crime is described is irrelevant, it’s the sentence handed down that matters. Fix the judiciary not create a new law.

Westfieldmike
Westfieldmike
5 months ago

We need a correct definition of terrorism. Any act of this magnitude is terrorism.

Grace124
Grace124
5 months ago

How long before we find out that Williams was a serious cannabis user?