Church of England Halts Plans for Gay ‘Weddings’
The Church of England has halted its plans to introduce ‘wedding’ services for same-sex couples after the bishops finally accepted long-resisted legal advice that it is not possible to do so without the approval of two-thirds of General Synod. Plans to allow clergy to enter a same-sex civil marriage have also been scrapped owing to the legal complications, ongoing divisions on the issue and the confusion that bringing in the reform by itself would sow. The Times has more.
Bishops will halt plans to allow gay couples to have dedicated blessing services in church and the ban on priests marrying same-sex partners will be extended.
The Times understands that, after years of deliberation, bishops have reached long-awaited decisions on two key unresolved problems involving gay rights in the Church of England.
They have decided not to grant special permission for a trial of dedicated blessing ceremonies for gay couples or for priests to be allowed to enter into same-sex civil marriages, insisting that any changes should require the lengthy rewriting of church law.
They will be “painful decisions to accept” for many, but are necessary to ensure “proper processes” are followed when considering changes to church doctrine, the Bishop of Blackburn, the Right Revd Philip North, said.
The church’s governing assembly, the General Synod, voted in February 2023 to allow priests to bless gay couples, but only during the course of regular church services. The blessings, which came about at the end of that year, will still be permitted.
In November 2023, the synod voted to back a trial of special “standalone” or “bespoke” services, which were likely to take the form of a special ceremony dedicated to the gay couple, who could invite guests and choose readings and music.
There were fears from traditionalists, however, that such services would closely resemble same-sex weddings, which remain banned in the church.
Bishops will say the services should not be permitted even in trial form unless canon law is rewritten. This would, however, require a two-thirds majority in the three houses of the synod, deemed unlikely with its present make-up.
Gay priests can enter into same-sex civil partnerships if they remain celibate, but are barred from civil marriages. They face a “rebuke” for having a gay marriage and are barred from new roles, while married gay people are barred from ordination to the priesthood.
With the church allowing priests to bless worshippers in same-sex civil marriages, there were calls for priests to be allowed them. However, bishops will rule that being in a gay civil marriage should remain a bar to ordination or being licensed for a new role. …
The Times has seen the documents behind the bishops’ decisions. One warns that allowing gay priests to have same-sex weddings under civil law while they remain banned under church law could lead to “legal challenges and increased confusion”. Permitting the change would need simple rather than two-thirds majorities in synod.
Another warns that blessing services for gay couples “may be seen by some to communicate ecclesial endorsement of a couple’s relationship as a whole, including its sexual dimension”.
Worth reading in full.
This is a victory of sorts for conservatives in the church, who will be relieved that further divisive changes will not be rammed through at this point. The forced departure of Justin Welby as Archbishop of Canterbury last year over safeguarding failures – Welby being the main driving force behind trying to get this question ‘solved’ before he retired – was key in the momentum collapsing, combined with the retirement of a number of stalwart liberal bishops.
While relieved, though, conservatives will also be frustrated that the reasons for dropping the plans now – essentially the legal situation and the voting calculus in Synod – are no different from what they were eight years ago, before huge amounts of church money, time and emotional energy were expended in divisive ‘conversations’ at every level of church life. A number of bishops and others in senior leadership, led by Welby, had chosen to ignore this reality and attempt to find a way, any way, to push through the changes they wanted. The consequence is a church more divided than ever, with pain on both sides, local churches reeling from acrimonious splits and further demoralisation and disengagement in the pews.
Will the church now be able to move on from this lost decade of division? There are signs liberals were already resigned to this outcome, so it’s possible an uneasy truce will now settle, with liberals going back to quietly ignoring the rules in practice while refraining from making big noises about trying to change them.
It’s possible we will see a new attempt at Synod to push through allowing clergy to enter same-sex marriages, which can be done with simple majorities, albeit involving complex changes to multiple laws and canons simultaneously. But clergy are already allowed to enter a civil partnership, provided they are ‘celibate’ (well, that’s what they tell their bishop). And same-sex blessings as part of ordinary services are already allowed, having been (controversially) brought in in 2023, so provision has been made there as well. You may wonder why something can be done in a Sunday service that can’t be done in a standalone service. The reason, according to the church’s lawyers, is because a standalone service will look too much like an actual wedding, when – and this is the fudge Welby used to get his blessings through – the blessings are technically limited to blessing the ‘couple’ and not their ‘relationship’ in all its aspects. This is the device that (supposedly) allows the bishops to get round the church’s longstanding prohibition on gay sex. (Even more technically, the approved prayers do not involve the priest blessing the couple but invite God to bless the couple himself, should he so choose; yes, this is the level of fudgery they went to to get these ‘blessings’ past the lawyers and through Synod.)
The upshot is that the Church of England will continue, for the time being at least, officially to hold to traditional biblical teaching on marriage – while liberals will continue quietly to flout it and make use of the ‘blessings’ fudge they got in under Welby. What happens in the future will depend on whether conservatives grow or diminish in strength over the coming decades – whether they lose their ‘blocking minority’ in Synod, or conversely even become a majority. With the church on other issues – such as reparations, race and climate – seeming to do everything to repel people of a conservative disposition, there is a risk the church will be increasingly abandoned to the liberals. On the other hand, it tends to be the more (theologically) conservative churches that are thriving and growing. So perhaps there is hope yet for the C of E.
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Another issue involving a very small minority of a very small minority which somehow is the most important issue of the day, unlike say the rape of thousands of children by Pakistani rape gangs.
Or the public debt avalanche that is coming done on us.
” (Even more technically, the approved prayers do not involve the priest blessing the couple but invite God to bless the couple himself, should he so choose; yes, this is the level of fudgery they went to to get these ‘blessings’ past the lawyers and through Synod.)”
That sentence by Will Jones goes straight to the heart of the matter.
In the Old Testament, God destroyed the ancient cities of Sodom & Gomorrah BECAUSE they were practicing SODOMY, which was named after the city, and means Unnatural Sexual Relations between Males with Males, Females with Females, and Humans with Animals.
How is that not clear? Next it will be people insisting on marrying their HORSE in church. Or their child. Or street parades with banners saying “ADULTERY PRIDE MARCH”.
Humans can sin as much as they want, pleasing the Devil, but they have NO RIGHT to DEMAND that God bless their sins in His Own House.
A marriage can only exist between one man and one woman.
Anything else is not a marriage, just some kind of fakery/mockery. In fact, I suspect that the primary motive for gay marriage is an attempt to render the notion of marriage meaningless.
And, to your point, if two blokes can get married – why can’t three? Or two blokes and a woman?
And the existence of a formal one to one relationship is not always required elsewhere, such as in some other religions in which one male and multiple females in a relationship (polygamy) is tolerated. Muslim branches have a cap of 4 (in the Quran), and of course in the wild there isn’t one, nor is there any in farming etc. Bulls generally have multiple ones, e.g.
https://www.tramatch.com/en/blog/what-different-religions-really-say-about-monogamy-and-polygamy and many other places on this issue.
Polyandry is still practised by Hindus in India, usually with one woman marrying multiple brothers to keep the money and land in the family.
It’s gross and disgusting, like polygamy, which is not marriage but just male & female concubines, like a harem. As if the horrific birth defects of offspring in “Pakistani Cousin Marriages” isn’t enough of a burden on the NHS, polyandry among Indian brothers will make genetic abnormalities even worse.
Keeping it in the family: Inside the Indian tradition of polyandrous marriages | The Independent
Why can a marriage only exist between one man and one woman? You write that as if it was undisputed fact, whereas of course it is your belief/opinion.
It’s interesting that while the UK has a state religion, many people do not get married in church (in fact I can’t remember the last church wedding I went to – all the recent ones have been in barns, for some reason). For many marriage is a civil matter and does not involve the intercession of a higher power (such as the Archbishop of Canterbury). Since the government allows marriage between same-sex couples, it is apparent that a marriage can exist between a man and a man, or indeed a woman and a woman.
Because I am a Christian and I believe that the institution of marriage was created by God.
Therefore I don’t believe anybody is authorized to redefine what marriage is.
I’m not a Christian so don’t believe this.
But would be interested to know what you think about marriage of the clergy. I believe there are different interpretations by denomination.
Marriage is an abstract concept whose definition differs in different circumstances.
No, it can’t. The Satanic Globalist governments of the West allow many things that are false concepts.
Well obviously it can. It’s a matter of definition. God doesn’t issue marriage certificates.
So you’ll be fancying your horse, then, and wanting to marry it in church? With a government-issued certificate, of course.
Oddly the government doesn’t issue such certificates. But the government does exist.
The General Register Office, which issues marriage certificates, is part of the government.
It doesn’t issue marriage certificates for people wanting to marry horses as you suggest.
Not yet, maybe, but I’m sure they’re working on it.
How about a friendly Camel instead?
Or a Pot-Bellied Pig? They reportedly have nice temperaments, and will never nag you.
I don’t think they are! Although I bet a disproportionate number of senior civil servants own horses.
Ha-ha! Nice one! 🙂
If the government were to create law a allowing recognized unions between people and horses called marriage, this would be perfectly possible, because the government is master of the government definition of this term.
Ooh risky business asking ‘good Christians’ any sincere questions on here. Past experience has shown they’re a humourless lot who get offended at the drop of a hat. And, boy, are there some cracking examples of what passes for ‘good Christians’ on this site!😁
The only ‘good Christian’ I have known was the most vain, money-obsessed, promiscuous woman I have ever met and even boasted to me about having an affair with her parish priest and being thanked by the gift of a gold crucifix of which she was very proud. She seemed to value it far more highly than the priest. She made a habit of seducing married men because she said they were ‘safe’ meaning they would not ask her to marry them – something she had a horror of. She described herself as ‘a life affirming Christian’ meaning she believed she could commit adultery and fornication with impunity. As soon as her biological clock started ticking very loudly she married a very wealthy man from her church and popped out a daughter – very much a last chance baby. They now live in luxury on the Cote d’Azur and are pillars of the local very well-heeled ex-pat Anglican Church. To this day I have never seen any signs of genuine Christian virtues such as modesty, humility, kindness or honesty in her. She is the reason I don’t trust Christians and would never want to become one. That and all the paedophile… Read more »
Of course it can, but not in the Christian church!
You’ll be buggered, is what you’re saying.
Yes, and next they’ll be demanding to get married to their horse, as some depraved women have already done.
I believe that everyone is worthy of respect but I am incredulous when I hear a man introducing another man as his husband. This is now quite common but I cannot recall a woman introducing her female companion as her wife.
Put the Christian principles to one side, just for a moment: why have communities from every (long lasting, self supporting) religion, race, creed had the institution of marriage?
It’s to protect the children, the community’s future.
QED
Yet, the Church of England thinks it isn’t worth keeping the definition for the traditional marriage.
Why weren’t civil partnerships popular with the progressives? It wouldn’t have the same destructive result, that’s why.
And that is the crux of the matter!
From someone who’s studied the Bible for over 50 years (me),
So what the CoE is saying is …
‘We wanted to bless homosexual marriage, but the rules won’t let us’.
The CoE began with sexual immorality (Henry VIII’s serial polygamy) and will end with it.
Disestablishment next …
Don’t you mean Henry VIII the TEN-YEAR-OLD BOY seduced by the cougar paedophile Catherine, the sexually immoral woman who chased him for years after his brother died? When she finally persuaded him to marry her, in violation of the Old Testament law, he was only 17, and she was 24.
It is the Catholic Church that will fall, when humanity realises they’ve been worshipping an IMPOSTOR BABY THIEF for 2000 years.
Unfortunately Christian marriage is conflated with civil marriage. These are two different although similar things, conflating the two is a disaster, although these have often been run in parallel due to human weakness. One is an institution previously requiring a certificate, but increasingly not which guarantees certain financial rights between a consenting couple, enforced by a government. The other is meant to be an in the image of God reflection of the relationship and differential roles within the Trinity, in the image of God he made him, male and female he made them . It requires no certificate just the belief faith and ongoing commitment of the couple in trying to reflect the image of God
The problem for liberals in the CofE is that the Bible is very clear on the subject of marriage. Marriage between a man and a woman goes right back to Genesis and was affirmed by Jesus. There is no ambiguity. Any church that has its basis on scripture (i.e. Old and New Testaments), which should include all protestant denominations, ought to be true to Biblical teaching on marriage, relationships and sex. Christian marriage is a special joining of a believing husband and wife, invoking God’s blessing upon their union. It is a sacrament in that it represents something more than just a token action. Secular society may borrow the term, and decide to redefine its meaning, but will always fall short of the rich mystery of the original. Further problems arise when churches corrupt Biblical terms for leaders and ministers (i.e. simply those who serve). For instance all Christian believers are “priests” and “bishops” are men who serve as elders in local churches. The New Testament qualification for the latter is that they are married – “the husband of one wife”, as the Church models local leadership through plurality of respectable heads of households and families. The situation regarding wider… Read more »
Why doesn’t the Church of England just split in two and let the conservatives keep the official Church and the gays have their own breakaway new version with female clergy, gay marriage etc and the official Church can go back to the way things were in the 1950s and before?
That way the ultraconservatives everywhere and especially in places like Africa will be happy.
And the liberals will have their own church – free and independent – if they want it that badly I am sure they can find a way to finance it since they are in the minority, it shouldn’t cost much – Jesus and his disciples met in private homes and on hillsides – you don’t need enormous cathedrals to gather together and pray.
The current situation is such a mess it is actually comical and the official Church is looking more and more ridiculous.
The C of E like Parliament is close to extinction. Infested with Liberal / Woke leadership. God on high, send us a Trump like figure to banish these heretics.
I can’t understand why anyone attends C of E church services.
As far as I can tell, they have nothing whatsoever to do with Christianity and everything to do with imposing left-wing social engineering.
Meanwhile Rome is burning. How sad with a diminishing attendance at all church services, this issue becomes the focus. Perhaps a soupçon of attention on drawing more Christians to church would not go amiss. One simple thought, for young parents, attending church brings people together, if only for an hour or two. It is a much needed opportunity, in today’s disconnected world.