Cutting CO2 Emissions Remains Conservative Party Policy, Says Environment Network Head

Earlier this week I asked the rhetorical question of how the Conservative Environment Network would respond to Kemi Badenoch’s pledge to ditch the Climate Change Act and Net Zero targets.

The CEN, you will recall, has been campaigning for years to eliminate all UK emissions of greenhouse gases by “mid-century”.


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RTSC
RTSC
6 months ago

Well colour me surprised.

And there was me thinking thinking that Badenough was going to inject some commonsense into Government if she became PM.

I am so disappointed that the “Conservative” grifters who are making a fortune out of the scam aren’t willing to give it up.

FerdIII
6 months ago
Reply to  RTSC

Sam Hall is just another idiot. Paid well I assume. His bank clinging and clanging for each pronouncement against plant food. Brain dead and corrupt. The important point is that the Con-vict party will never confront the Net Zero, Green fascists.

kev
kev
6 months ago
Reply to  RTSC

Another rhetorical question, and based on the assumption that their claims were to be somehow correct (which they’re not).

If we were to eliminate ALL of our CO2 emissions, what processes do we have in place to stop other people CO2 leaching into “our” part of the atmosphere. Will CO2 molecules obey government diktat and stay put?

Maybe being an Island surrounded by water, that water will stop other CO2 molecules “polluting” our pristine atmosphere!

There is one additional problem though, no-one has ever been able to tell me what the optimum level of CO2 should be, or even what the optimum temperature should be. Just CO2 and global temperature are too high, but by how much?

soundofreason
soundofreason
6 months ago
Reply to  kev

what the optimum level of CO2 should be, or even what the optimum temperature should be

Pre-Industrial – whatever that means.

Pre-Roman? Pre-Pyramids? Pre-Lucy?

Now make up the model which tells you what those figures were then.

kev
kev
6 months ago
Reply to  soundofreason

Yeah but ask for an actual figure, so what was it pre-industrial or pre-Roman? All you get is verbal abuse and called names, because they don’t know, they only have their soundbites, not facts!

I don’t know either, but neither do I believe there is such a thing! Nor do I claim to know!

JXB
JXB
6 months ago
Reply to  soundofreason

The optimum if you are a plant is about 1 200 ppm.

JXB
JXB
6 months ago
Reply to  soundofreason

We know – or geologists know – what the numbers were “pre-industrial” throughout Earth’s history, much, much higher than now and on average 2 000 ppm.

And pre-industrial temperatures in Roman times about 2C higher than now.

soundofreason
soundofreason
6 months ago
Reply to  JXB

I’m pretty sure Romans were ‘industrial’. It’s a big part of what made them so successful.

OMG +2 degrees C! How did they survive in that hellish heat? (sarc)

Sarony
Sarony
6 months ago
Reply to  JXB

It appears to have escaped the zero nuts that the Romans were growing grapes up as far as York.

johnnythefish
johnnythefish
6 months ago
Reply to  soundofreason

Pre-Medieval Warm Period, perhaps?

kev
kev
6 months ago
Reply to  RTSC

Grifters will grift, and it pays very, very well, and for now allows you to “appear” to hold the moral high ground because of a useless and corrupt MSM that refuses to do its job and challenge the outrageous claims of the climate industrial complex.

If she’s serious then she will need to scrap this and a whole slew of related NGOs and Think Tanks, admit there is and never was a climate crisis, Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant but an absolutely critical gas for all life on Earth and almost certainly needs to be at much higher levels than currently. Build gas, coal and nuclear power stations like there’s no tomorrow and halt ALL so-called renewables and any legislation regarding boilers, cars and anything else related to the absurd idea of a carbon neutral economy, what we would/will have is an utterly destroyed economy, a 3rd world one.

MajorMajor
MajorMajor
6 months ago

And cutting the number of Conservative MP’s in parliament also remains the electoral policy for the Tory party.

Tonka Rigger
6 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

So it would seem…

stewart
6 months ago

Gosh, what a shock. Conservatives talking out of both sides of their mouths. Never seen that before.

This does highlight, however, the biggest challenge in dismantling climate policy and that is the massive network of grift that has been created.

There are thousands of people who are living and profiting off the climate change con and who are going to fight to keep it going with everything they’ve got.

And, btw, the moment you hear someone mixing up CO2 and clean environment you know they are either (a) a fucking idiot, (b) a grifter or both.

RTSC
RTSC
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

The same applies to the criminal migrant con. Thousands of people in the Establishment and their hangers-on are profiting very nicely from it, as taxpayers’ money is funnelled towards them.

Finbar
Finbar
6 months ago

Tbf. I don’t think you can take anything the [main] parties say until they’re actually in power. It seems we now know they basically lie to get into power and do what ever the heck they want to do anyway as though they have a mandate to do it. I currently hope the other parties won’t do this but my worry is it’s not just the main party politicians… We wait and see…

RT
RT
6 months ago

Given their past record of breaking manifesto promises I wouldn’t have believed her even if she had said they would do all the things Paul Homewood listed above.

Marcus Aurelius knew
6 months ago

Never let a good crisis go to waste. As with crises real, so with crises imagined.

So, we know that the crisis is that of grifters, many of whom it seems are “democratically elected”.

What to do?

DiscoveredJoys
DiscoveredJoys
6 months ago

I was pleased with the proposed policy changes emerging from the Conference – I might even be persuaded to vote Conservative if I believed a Conservative Government would deliver.

But obviously ‘delivery’ would be subverted and denied by the ‘wets’. So no vote from me.

mickie
mickie
6 months ago

To say that the ConTories are demented and live in Cloud Cuckoo Land would be a gross underestimate. They still do not accept that it was they that got us into the mess we are in – and I don’t suppose they ever will.

Norfolk-Sceptic
Norfolk-Sceptic
6 months ago
Reply to  mickie

For all those Arts and Humanities graduates (from both universities) in Parliament, if the BBC says it’s true, there’s no going back.

BevGee
BevGee
6 months ago

“He starts by wrongly conflating carbon dioxide with a “cleaner environment…” They all think CO2 is Carbon Monoxide.

Boomer Bloke
6 months ago
Reply to  BevGee

As opposed to what it actually is, plant food.

mrbu
mrbu
6 months ago

I’m not sure what Sam Hall means by our “strengths in […] finance”. We’re broke, thanks to the last government and the present one.

WillP
6 months ago

Sick of these Tory halfwits. Getting down with the globalist kids on trendy renewables.
That they still spout centrist gibber is proof of their inadequacy to to be in government.

“Brexit was a mistake” said our local candidate at the hustings. Ie anyone who voted for it was stoopid.
“Trump said to inject disinfectant” said Anna Firth on GBNews

How did these nitwits get near the party?
As for Kemi, she is merely their figurehead.

Sarony
Sarony
6 months ago
Reply to  WillP

The nitwits got near the party and into Parliament thanks to arch-liberal David Cameron. It was he who took away the power of local constituencies to choose their candidates and gave it to CCHQ secure in the knowledge that only Cameron clones would be chosen.

I remember reading that any potential candidate who supported Brexit was filed in the nearest waste paper bin. Cameron was the true destroyer of the Parliamentary Conservative Party.

I say this till I’m blue in the face: The only way to get proper Conservatives back into Parliament is to hand the choice back to the local constituencies. That’s if there are any party workers left. Thousands decamped following Cameron’s diktat.

happycake78
happycake78
6 months ago

Of course it does. It remains party policy because it’s a WEF policy. It’s as simple as that.

lulu-b45
lulu-b45
6 months ago

Another climate nutcase. Just ignore him and he might go away

shred
shred
6 months ago

Kemi may as well sign on for Reform. The Cons are incurable.

Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago
Reply to  shred

Why? She is the Globalist WEF Manchurian Candidate, and they will do anything to put her illegally into No. 10.

Heretic
Heretic
6 months ago

Thank you, Paul Homewood & the Daily Sceptic, for telling the truth to the people, showing how it’s all just more Lies & Tricks & Sleight-of-Hand from the Tories.

JXB
JXB
6 months ago

It is clear the Conservative Party, as usual, are being “economical,with the truth” (aka lying) by implying they have changed their stance on climate change and Net Zero.

The truth is they haven’t, they are just going to obfuscate and repackage it. They still “believe” in climate change, still want us all in BEVs, still want to “reduce emissions”, to save the Planet.

They really are a bunch of duplicitous, lying toads.

But hey ho! Good news: Kommi Bloodknock has promised next Conservative Government will abolish stamp duty… just like George Osborne promised the next Conservative Government would abolish inheritance tax.

Anyone who still believes this shower needs urgent psychiatric appraisal.

Norfolk-Sceptic
Norfolk-Sceptic
6 months ago
Reply to  JXB

Many STEM deficient people won’t understand that they ‘really are a bunch of duplicitous, lying toads’.

Cotfordtags
6 months ago

I drive around Wrexham on a regular basis on the A483, which those who know the road is one of Drake Ford’s follies. For a distance of about a mile the speed limit on this dual carriageway is reduced to 50mph to reduce pollution. I accept in the 1970s that cars driving at 55mph were at their most economical, but today’s modern cars are better. My car is not particularly new but at 50mph needs 2200rpm in 6th gear but at 70mph runs at 3000rpm. So I actually use 3% more fuel at the lower speed and, presumably produce more pollution. Another example of the idiots pushing this false religion and their idiotic solutions.

Norfolk-Sceptic
Norfolk-Sceptic
6 months ago

New concrete policies will only create more Carbon (Dioxide) emissions.

Arum
Arum
6 months ago

Yes we’re not going to be allowed that dreadful cement any more are we? Have to use recycled

sskinner
6 months ago

Below are 2 maps from OWID showing per capita CO2 emissions (left) and Life Expectancy (right). Well who’d of thought? The countries with greater CO2 ’emissions’ have greater life expectancy.

OWID-Per-Capita-CO2-and-Life-Expectancy
SimCS
6 months ago

So “Cutting CO2 Emissions Remains Conservative Party Policy”. Yet no evidence exists why they need to be cut!

DontPanic
DontPanic
6 months ago

But she never said a word about dismantling net zero laws. In fact I’m pretty certain she said climate change was still happening. Hardly surprising from political parties with very few scientists but plenty of lawyers and professional politicians