Matthew Syed Asked a Simple Question at a Pro-Palestine Protest – and it Turned Ugly

At a pro-Palestine protest, Times journalist Matthew Syed asks a simple question about Hamas – and is met with abuse, denial and open antisemitism. Here’s an excerpt:

Let me transport you into the heart of London — Trafalgar Square, no less — in a nation that likes to pride itself on tolerance, the rule of law and mutual respect. There is a circle of people on the lower tier of the square, under the shadow of the National Gallery, surrounding a few hundred more holding placards proclaiming support for Palestine Action, a proscribed terror organisation.

I approach a group of three women – perhaps in their fifties, brown-skinned, British accents – and one of them recognises me: “You are that journalist Matthew Syed.” Yes, can you talk? They assent so I ask what I take to be a fair-minded question to elicit their position and why they are here. “Who do you blame for what is unfolding in Gaza? Do you think Hamas bears any responsibility?”

For the avoidance of doubt, this was the extent of my question. I didn’t say anything else about Hamas: that their founding charter is committed to the killing of Jews; that they have consistently said that they wish to commit October 7-style atrocities again and again; that they are funded by Iran, which wishes to expunge Israel from the pages of history; that the mullahs have sometimes insinuated that Muslims have a duty to kill Jews wherever they are found — perhaps, who knows, the inspiration for a man called Jihad, born to a Syrian father who described the Hamas attackers as “men of God on Earth”, attempting mass murder in Manchester.

No, all I asked was: “Is Hamas partly responsible?” Here’s what happened next, as their friendly faces turned to, well, something else. “Go away,” one said. “Go away. You are a bad faith actor. We don’t want to talk to you. Just f*** off. It’s a really boring old line. You are disgusting.” “I am disgusting?” “Yes, you are disgusting. You are not a journalist. It’s very clear what your position is here.” Now, their voices were getting louder: “Piss off.” “Thanks for your time, I appreciate it,” I said retreating, but they were not finished. “What are you doing here anyway? You are prejudiced. Hopefully nobody will ever buy a book you write. You are a charlatan. You are a f***ing racist.”

Those surrounding us started to join in. “Well said, sister.” “Yeah, well said!” Others in the enclosure began to applaud. I noticed a tall man with a Palestinian flag a few metres away and he pointed at me, although I wasn’t sure why. A younger woman approached and said: “I have seen you all afternoon trying to get a rise from people.” “I only asked if Hamas is partly responsible. Is that so very provocative?” “You are here to cause trouble and you are going to get trouble,” she said.

I wish I could tell you that this was a one-off but I spoke to at least two dozen people and, with two exceptions (including a lovely black guy from North London who conversed intelligently and politely), the motivation for being here was obvious, potent and implacable. The hatred of Jews. I heard conspiracy theories (October 7th was a false flag operation), blood libels and the pervasive view that the Manchester atrocity was not a heinous attack but righteous comeuppance for an evil people. My sense is that many felt liberated to say what they really thought by the proximity of like-minded others; the classic symptom of mob mentality. …

Perhaps you will say that these people are not representative of the UK, but with protests in London and Manchester in the aftermath of Thursday’s attack on the holiest day in the Jewish calendar, and the dozens of other marches that have taken place since October 7th, it is difficult to overestimate the potent and increasingly assertive nature of antisemitism.

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Jeff Chambers
Jeff Chambers
6 months ago

You’re not surprised, though, are you? These “Pro-Palestine” marches are in reality marches for the Second Holocaust – which is what Hamas and its backers and supporters are planning.

It’s time we started calling these demonstrations what in fact they are: Second Holocaust marches.

JXB
JXB
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Chambers

Next week the marchers will be following a different band.

MajorMajor
MajorMajor
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Chambers

I’m not Jewish. In fact, I’m probably as neutral in this conflict as any human being can be, biased as we all inevitably are.
But as far as I can see, being “pro-Palestine” is just the cover story for being antisemitic.
Very few people will openly admit that they hate the Jews because of course, hate is a bad thing and a hateful person is a bad person.
But if you can “sanctify” your hatred, if you can pretend that actually you are full of compassion and love for some noble cause – then, all of a sudden you have turned yourself into a righteous, loving, good person.
There is nothing new about this.
The absolute majority of feminists, for example, are driven by resentment and hatred towards men. But that looks bad on them, so the cover story is the advancement of women’s rights.

Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

To be fair, I’d say the vast majority of feminists also hate fellow women. You can see this from the causes they openly support. If you support the trans garbage/identity politics, then by default you cannot possibly state you stand for women’s sex-based rights. Same goes for the “refugees welcome”/pro-open borders lot. They blatantly ignore the crimes against women and girls taking place as a result of mass immigration. I get the impression most are Socialists, which would explain things.

sskinner
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Feminists for Iranian women for example?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8xaBlu2f4Q
Celebrity Feminists are Silent on Iranian Women’s Protest | The Daily Signal

MajorMajor
MajorMajor
6 months ago
Reply to  sskinner

Oh, the feminist anger is always directed to societies with the highest levels of gender equality. A men’s club? Outrage! A clear manifestation of patriarchal oppression.
Curious silence towards the Muslim countries. Women not allowed out without a male relative? Oh, that’s just their cultural preference.

Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  sskinner

Aye, as we were saying….”Feminists for Palestine”.
These deranged individuals don’t represent any sane, self-respecting women;

“Just when I thought I couldn’t feel more sicked by society’s dehumanisation of Jews, I see things like this.
On October 7, the anniversary of when hundreds of Jewish women were killed, raped and taken hostage, the ‘feminist library’ at a British university is holding a night for Palestine and for ‘remembrance and resistance.’
The feminist library is hosting a night celebrating the murderers of Jewish women.”

https://x.com/nicolelampert/status/1974793719166497085

MajorMajor
MajorMajor
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Correct. The vast majority of feminists also hate fellow women.
In fact arguably in a lot of cases they hate fellow women more than men, because their feelings towards men are mostly rooted in envy and resentment, where towards fellow women it is mostly spite.
By the way, I work in a predominantly male environment whereas my daughter in an almost exclusively female one. Ah, the things she tells me… Toxic doesn’t even start to describe it.

GroundhogDayAgain
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Chambers

One need only recall the jubilant celebrations on the streets, even before Israel made their military response. They were already cheering on Hamas.

Likewise, with the murder of Charlie Kirk. At another Turning Point event on that same day, a colleague of his is shown on camera discovering what happened and announcing it to the crowd, many of whom simply laughed.

The be-kind generation is a nasty piece of work. They consider themselves to be moral, but they’re just plain nasty.

Jonathan M
Jonathan M
6 months ago

They say ‘BeKind’ with their lips, but their eyes say ‘or else…’

Claphamanian
Claphamanian
6 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Chambers

And after these ‘anti-colonialists’ have achieved their aims with Israel, who’s next?

Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
6 months ago
Reply to  Claphamanian

Everyone, until they run out of enemies and then turn in on themselves.

Rusty123
Rusty123
6 months ago
Reply to  Tyrbiter

Which they already do, religion of peace my arse!!

Covid-1984
Covid-1984
6 months ago
Reply to  Claphamanian

They won’t, don’t worry about it. Israel will always prevail.

JXB
JXB
6 months ago

 “Go away. You are a bad faith actor. We don’t want to talk to you. Just f*** off.”

I have noticed on videos on X both from the US and UK, anyone attempting to engage is met with the same response – the same phraseology -and refusal to talk.

That means it is organised, a central (somewhere) direction, and the group is primed to avoid a two way exchange as they have no intellectuel basis on which to build a lucid, cogent argument – just slogans, chants, name-calling.

NeilParkin
6 months ago
Reply to  JXB

Its not possible to examine the logic of their argument, because they didn’t use logic to come to their conclusion.

Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
6 months ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

There is no logic in hatred, and that’s essentially it. They don’t feel favoured, not realising that favour is only given when built onto something worthwhile.

stewart
6 months ago

I am going to call bullshit on this.

If what you really want is a proper answer to that question from a group of people who clearly pro-Palestine, you don’t open with that question.

You ask them sone open ended questions that give them an opportunity to express their ideas and then whe. You’ve got a bit of rapport going to you ask the more confrontational question.

Of course if you open with a question that clearly aims to challenge their ideas, you’re going to get a reaction.

It is the sort of clumsy interaction that you would expect from someone with no social skills. Or someone clearly out for a reaction.

JXB
JXB
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

If a person cannot respond when their ideas are challenged, it proves they are just mindless blobs, with no ideas of their own, just slogans and pejoratives which they have been trained to repeat like parrots.

RW
RW
6 months ago
Reply to  JXB

This makes them pretty much a completely ordinary person. Normally, if you challenge someone’s ideas, that someone will get angry and defensive. Even giving people completely well-intended advice already risks triggering such a reaction as advice always implies some form of criticism.

German saying I either invented or heard somewhere: Ratschläge sind auch Schläge.

Ratschlag is German for advice. It’s composed ot Rat which means advice in itself and Schlag which means blow. A poor translation could be People hit with advice will feel hit.

JXB
JXB
6 months ago
Reply to  RW

 Normally, if you challenge someone’s ideas, that someone will get angry and defensive. “

Not in my experience – unless mindless blobs.

transmissionofflame
6 months ago
Reply to  JXB

You must associated with a better class of person than I do 🙂

Rusty123
Rusty123
6 months ago
Reply to  JXB

Agree with you, it was a simple enough question, clearly not wanting to answer proves how indoctrinated they are, “oooh no, they cannot possibly be to blame”, pathetic.

Jeff Chambers
Jeff Chambers
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

“Do you think Hamas bears any responsibility?” seems like a fair question. And the reason why the women got so defensive is because they’re Second Holocaust supporters, and are worried that they might let that fact slip out in their answers.

pgstokes
pgstokes
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

In the circumstances it seems to be a reasonable question. Why didn’t they want to provide an answer?

Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
6 months ago
Reply to  pgstokes

Because they don’t have one.

transmissionofflame
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Well, they knew who he was and knew presumably his positions, so I am not sure that any approach from him would have worked.

EppingBlogger
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

What delicate souls you make them appear. I suggest they are nasty and ignorant.

AbsolutelyNot
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

You can be pro-Gaza but against Hamas, which is a position I actually respect, so it is a very valid question.

Tyrbiter
Tyrbiter
6 months ago
Reply to  AbsolutelyNot

Indeed, the problem that most Gazans have is that any visible rejection of Hamas is likely to lead to a 9mm brain haemorrhage.

RW
RW
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

I second that. This is not a neutral question but one which clearly assigns blame to an organisation the people on this protest very likely consider to be on their side, at least somewhere. Think going to a bunch of football fans whose team just lost a match because of a disputable penalty and asking them “Would you agree that your club is just shit and hence, really deserved to loose?”, just worded in a less obviously rude way. As the reporter was a communication professional, I think he wanted to provoke the exact reaction he got.

NB: I have no sympathies for the people on these marches and if I had any say on the matter, I’d ban them on the grounds that they’re just a public noise nuisance.

Tonka Rigger
6 months ago
Reply to  RW

It was an open-ended question: “Do you think Hamas has any blame?”

The option to say “No, because xyz” exists, after which respectful dialogue can enter the chat.

All these people, and so many others in so many other protest groups need, is that tiny opening into which they can jump feet-first with their “righteous outrage”.

RW
RW
6 months ago
Reply to  Tonka Rigger

An open-ended question would have been “What do you think about the situation in Gaza?” Even “Who do you think is to blame for the situation in Gaza?” has already an offensive tendency to it because to people on pro-Palestine marches, the answer is obvious: Israel. Hence, people who pretend to be asking for that imply that there’s a reason to doubt what everybody on the march is completely convinced of and the Times guy knew this as good as anybody else before asking.

David101
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Maybe so, but it still demonstrates the true colours of the ostensibly peaceful “pro- Palestine” protestors. The question wasn’t even that specific, and had a degree of open-endedness. They could have responded with nuanced argument, or just “no I don’t think they’re responsible”, but instead they responded by spewing mindless invective… To respond in such a way demonstrates that, in much the same way as Joseph Goebbels brainwashed the German people into supporting the Nazi Party, these people are in a trance-like state of worship of the Gazan terrorist state in its campaign of violent conquest.

Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  David101

To be honest, I thought it a clever question and entry into a discussion he asked. Reason being that it immediately gave them the opportunity to demonstrate that they are not all about the Israel/Jew hate and the glorification/support of terrorists, but they failed to take it, thereby confirming further what we’ve known all along.
I’d have much more respect for somebody who said they were not supportive of what Israel were doing but at the same time condemn Hamas and acknowledge how it all started in the first place.
But ever since these hate marches began, have you ever seen anyone amongst them holding a sign, outwardly condemning Hamas? Calling out the fact that Hamas overtly terrorise their own people? I haven’t. I don’t think such people exist who attend these gatherings. They aren’t interested in facts that contradict their narrative or acknowledging any nuance, they’re all about legitimising their antisemitism.

David101
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Even the people who aren’t total buffoons about the whole thing, are often not looking at it from a Middle-Eastern perspective. Our journalists and editors here in the West have the luxury of sipping coffee in an air-conditioned office and framing the whole conflict in terms of morals, what is “right” and what is “wrong”. Middle-Eastern nations, including Israel, on the other hand do not have that luxury, as perennially embroiled in conflict as they have been for the better part of a century. They are forced into thinking only in terms of war strategy and the best means of protecting their own people from external attack.

In other words, from Israel’s point of view, there is no “right” course of action – only what is necessary.

RichardTechnik
RichardTechnik
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

I disgree. No bullshit. Had Matthew Syed asked anything more indirect than that he did he’d likely have elicited some meaningless directionless torrent of hate. That what these people are there for – thats their main driver

Tonka Rigger
6 months ago
Reply to  RichardTechnik

I think it’s just another opportunity to virtue-signal – “Look how good I am because I’ve entered this protest”. It’s a sense of belonging, coupled with a wee bit of edginess, which is very seductive.

John Kitchen
John Kitchen
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

They don’t call themselves pro-Hamas do they? So why should his questioning take it for granted that they are? The intention is to try to find what they really believe. And now we know.

RW
RW
6 months ago
Reply to  John Kitchen

That people on pro-Palestine marches believe that someone asking them leading questions about Hamas they cannot possibly answer without either betraying their convictions or incriminating themselves is an agent provocateur isn’t exactly surprising.

@yorkshirekate
@yorkshirekate
6 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Which opening question would you have used?

RW
RW
6 months ago
Reply to  @yorkshirekate

“What’s your opinion about the situation in Gaza?” would suggest itself. But he couldn’t have done that without the government of Israel and its minions going totally bezerk about this obvious “support for antisemitism”, code language for any stance which isn’t 100% in support of whatever the government of Israel wants to do, as aggressively employed by said government for at least two decades.

@yorkshirekate
@yorkshirekate
6 months ago
Reply to  RW

They are of a mindset beyond rational replies and beyond reasoning. I doubt any question would penetrate such closed mindedness and depth of prejudice. They demand total compliance. It’s a hideous trait which has bizarre parallels with Islamic fundamentalist behaviour.

Mogwai
6 months ago

These are the very odious people who demand their deranged and openly hostile behaviour be tolerated, whilst demonstrating zero tolerance to anybody who doesn’t agree with them. The very same unhinged people who are all about free speech when it’s on their terms, but who rush to shut down, bully and smear anybody who voices opposing views, because they’re incapable of reasoned and civil debate. The “rules for thee but not for me” brigade, in other words. And we see examples of such hypocrites all over the place, don’t we? I think the narcissist force is strong with such individuals.
Alex Armstrong got the same treatment when he tried to engage in dialogue with them. As with all hostile people, the fact there’s strength in numbers emboldens them further;

https://x.com/alexharmstrong/status/1974507477669466572

ellie-em
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I suppose it’s to be expected that it will be difficult to reason with anyone walking about with a tea-towel wrapped around their head and playing with a noisy gizmo.

Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  ellie-em

In a civilised society no face coverings, bar none, would be permitted. It really should be a zero tolerance thing with no exceptions.

GlassHalfFull
6 months ago

If that is all he asked then the response he received, if accurate, was the one he was looking for. In some of these demonstrations the majority of those arrested have been aging, middle class professionals. If he has asked them the same question he would probably receive a cogent answer. If you deliberately ask a rabble a leading question don’t be surprised if the answer is from the gutter. To answer his question, yes Hamas has a small part to play in the tens of thousands of civilian deaths in Gaza in the same way that the French Resistance had a small part to play in the deaths of civilians in France due to retribution by the occupying Germans and the SS. In conflicts bad things happen. Were the French Resistance “terrorists”. There are well documented atrocities by the French Resistance and even by the French army against German civilians for their “occupation” of France for 4 years. Palestine has been “occupied” by a foreign force since 1948. The taking of civilian hostages and killing of “innocent” civilians is a crime for which Palestinians should be prosecuted. However, many Israelis were killed by Israel themselves via their Hannibal Directive.… Read more »

David101
6 months ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

You can’t possibly either compare Israel to the German occupation of France (a phrase in which you bizarrely feel the need to put the word “occupation” in quotation marks), or compare the Hamas to the French resistance, as if they are some armed “resistance” group fighting an illegal occupying force. Israel is a 100% legitimate internationally recognized state – not an “occupying force” – whose people are the descendants of those who returned to their ancestral homeland. And Hamas is a terrorist group, plain and simple, who will not rest until a global caliphate has been established the world is divested of its Jewish people.

This is codified, plain as day, in their 1984 Covenant.

There are over 50 nations in the world whose official state religion is Islam. 22 of these are Arab nations. Is it your opinion that even one Jewish state should not be tolerated?

JDee
JDee
6 months ago
Reply to  David101

Glasshalffull is an antisemite, don’t bother.

GlassHalfFull
6 months ago
Reply to  JDee

NO, I AM NOT ANTI-SEMITIC. If I was, I would dislike ALL Jews, but I don’t. I dislike those that kill tens of thousands of innocent Palestinian civilians. And I dislike those who are apologists for those that order and do the killing.   How can people who criticize the brutal apartheid Israeli government be called anti-Semitic or “Jew haters” when there are, or were, so many Jewish people to admire like Max Blumenthal of The Grayzone, Sir Gerald Kaufman MP, writer and musician Gilad Atzmon, Professor Shlomo Sand, Writer Noam Chomsky, Norman Finklestein, Richard Falk, Gabriel Kolko, Dr. Norton Mezvinsky, Henry Siegman, Judge Richard Goldstone, Professor Don Peretz, journalist Eric Rouleau, Harvard Professor Sara Roy, Professor Jennifer Loewenstein, former Minister in the South African government Ronnie Kasrils, Professor Saul Landau, Professor Zachery Lochman, Professor Joel Beinin, Professor Ian Lustick, Professor Edward Herman, writer Stephen Lendman, Anthony Loewenstein, Professor Steven Zunes, Stanley Heller, Danny Schechter, Lenni Brenner, Jeff Blankfort, author and journalist Alain Gresh, Professor Cheryl Rubenberg, renown author Philip Roth, Professor Michael Selzer, Professor David Fromkin, Professor Emeritus in the Political Science Department at Boston University, Howard Zinn, author Seymour M. Hersh, Bob Simon, Senior CBS Foreign Correspondent, Barry… Read more »

GlassHalfFull
6 months ago
Reply to  David101

“as if they are some armed “resistance” group fighting an illegal occupying force”. Is exactly what they are. HAMAS is the Arabic acronym of the Islamic “Resistance” Movement. Jews in Palestine (particularly in the “illegal” West Bank settlements) ARE “an illegal occupying force”. “whose people are the descendants of those who returned to their ancestral homeland.” Is laughable nonsense. Genetic analysis has shown that Palestinians have lived there for thousands of years and longer than Israelis. Tel Aviv University historian, Professor Shlomo Sand also doubts the origins of Israel. “In his 2008 book, Sand manages to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that the Jewish people never existed as a ‘nation-race’, they never shared a common origin. Instead, they are a colourful mix of groups that at various stages in history adopted the Jewish religion.” “Professor Sand leaves us with the inevitable conclusion. Contemporary Jews do not have a common origin, and their Semitic origin is a myth. Jews have no origin in Palestine whatsoever and therefore, their act of so-called ‘return’ to their ‘promised land’ must be realised as an invasion executed by a tribal-ideological clan.” https://gilad.online/writings/shlomo-sands-the-invention-of-the-jewish-people-book-review.html “This is codified, plain as day, in their 1984 Covenant.” Hamas was formed in… Read more »

David101
6 months ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

If you can’t label Hamas as terrorists, i.e. those who do not just kill but rape and torture before they kill to maximize humiliation and suffering, then there is something seriously wrong with you mate. A “resistance” group does not anally rape women and burn people in their homes. If the likes of Hamas state publicly that they will repeat the atrocities of Oct-7 again and again until the state of Israel is annihilated, is it not justified that the target country will wage a significant defensive operation against them? We in the West have the luxury of framing the war in terms of “right” and “wrong”, looking at the war in terms of moral perspectives. Middle eastern nations (including Israel) don’t have that luxury – they are forced into thinking only in terms of war strategy, i.e. what the best strategy to protect their own people from annihilation by an external enemy. How is a two-state solution going to placate a terror group who think that their directive from Allah is to wipe out their neighbouring nation? Trump might strike a deal temporarily and hold them at arms length. But what next? Oh yes, I’m sure the Hamas operatives… Read more »

chesterbear
chesterbear
6 months ago

Alas jew haters inhabit this website as well.

stewart
6 months ago
Reply to  chesterbear

I can’t see a single comment on here thus far that could fairly be interpreted as anti-semitic.

transmissionofflame
6 months ago
Reply to  chesterbear

Can you cite some examples of specific posters or posts that demonstrate “jew hatred”?

Jon Garvey
6 months ago

Syed is misreading the room. The protesters are simply justifiably incoherent with rage at the evils of Israel, Jews, and all who show them undue acknowledgement as humans. They are being honest, straightforward British people who respect fair play, and who can blame them for being unable to maintain politeness.

Contrast that with the million or so scum who attended the Unite the Kingdom march, who were uniformly primed to be hypocritically smiling and friendly when asked challenging questions about Tommy Robinson, Epping protests, their Nazi sympathies etc. It takes a particularly hard and callous brand of fascist to pretend to be ordinary housewives and granddads when the real press calls them out. </sarc>

“By their fruits you shall know them.”

sskinner
6 months ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

For a moment…

JDee
JDee
6 months ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

You don’t seem to have bothered to read the hamas charter which calls for the destruction of Israel, and the Quran has several verses about fighting Jews, Christians and unbelievers, subjugating them to Sharia law and Islam. You hypocrite!

Jon Garvey
6 months ago
Reply to  JDee

You didn’t spot the </sarc>? What more can one do for irony?

Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

🤣 You can’t win ’em all! Hey, maybe JDee was also being sarky without labelling their post as such…🤔

JDee
JDee
6 months ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

Irony doesn’t really work on social media. But what I have done is highlight to those who actually believe that your irony, isn’t that they have not read the Hamas charter nor the fact that the Quran does seem to justify Islamic terrorism, and hence all the Islamic terrorists and the never ending hate, and useful idiot marches. So thanks for the opportunity to point this out and that those who believe the irony isn’t are total hypocrites.

RichardTechnik
RichardTechnik
6 months ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

I was going to downtick this when I spotted the /sarc – next time put it in bold caps please

Jon Garvey
6 months ago
Reply to  RichardTechnik

But bold caps are not acceptable in HTML! Oh Calamity!

David101
6 months ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

Quite. Acknowledging Jews as humans is pitiful. </sarc>

For a fist full of roubles

I have pointed out that the Hamas charter calls unequivocally for the genocide of the Jews, compared to the alleged genocide of Gazan’s, which make up a small part of a genetic group that is common throughout the Middle East.

David101
6 months ago

If what Israel is doing to Gaza is to be considered “genocide” then so far Israel has proven itself to rather incompetent at it…

Worldometer statistics show the population of the state of Palestine to have GROWN by approximately 180,000 since 2023 to present. That is more or less exactly the same rate of growth experienced by the country for past 30 years.

Genocide does not result in population growth.

Tonka Rigger
6 months ago

Here it is in a nutshell:

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Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  Tonka Rigger

Can we just take 2mins to behold what an epic w⚓ Gary Neville is? How can somebody confess to taking down their own country’s flag because he thinks it causes division, whilst out the other side of his mouth professing to being a patriot? And he’s blaming “white middle-aged men”, which is ironically what he is;

https://x.com/Basil_TGMD/status/1974794413831508250

Corky Ringspot
6 months ago

Sadly I’m not surprised to to hear this. However, there’s one but of this account that I find hard to believe:

‘…and one of them recognises me: “You are that journalist Matthew Syed.” ‘

Really? I vaguely know the name of Matthew Syed but I certainly wouldn’t recognise him in the flesh. But these highly prejudiced, uninformed ladies do? And they apparently react positively to him?
Otherwise a solid, if depressing, piece of journalism.

Spiv
Spiv
6 months ago

The extreme left and extreme Islamists share the support of Hamas and also the same tactics and response to simple questions, aggression and often violence. They go on about the hatred from the right. Apart from a handful of EDL supporters that turn up like a small, determined bunch of Millwall fans, I don’t see much of a hard right. But the left and their extremist Muslim allies are everywhere, influencing every aspect of public administration and prepared to ‘counter protest’ the slightest hint of public dissent at their confected narrative. Just questioning their often bizarre and utterly unfounded assertions brand you as far-right and a supporter of genocide, and everything is genocide. From the controversial propaganda put out by Hamas’s own propaganda departments, to the use of fossil fuels to the genocide of trans men. All claim genocide at one time or another. But is it? Like the confected myth of the far-right, most of it is utter hogwash. Perhaps the worst incidence of this extremist nonsense is in the use of this label by activists in education, activists not teachers. Those in question seem to teach sod all but extreme leftist dogma. If the child will not swallow… Read more »

WillP
6 months ago

Other obvs.questions:

  1. What do you think Hamas expected the Israeli response to be?
  2. Why is Egypt also not guilty of allegedly creating a “concentration” camp, or ‘starving’ the Gazans?
  3. How is Jordan a legitimate country when it is the same age as modern Israel, but unlike Israel had never been a nation, people or language before, and had all the Jews expelled at its outset?
  4. The Arab Caliphate invaded and conquered Israel in the 7th Century. Surely that makes them the colonisers?
David101
6 months ago
Reply to  WillP

The main argument against Israel being the colonizing “invaders” should be that the Judaic religion is far older than other two Abrahamic religions. When combined with the fact that Judaism emerged in the Middle East and that what we now call North and South (modern) Israel were historically called “Judea” and “Judah” respectively, this makes the Arab Caliphate conclusively the colonisers of Jewish ancestral land.

Epi
Epi
6 months ago

“ I heard conspiracy theories (October 7th was a false flag operation)”.

Can you please tell me why the border was unguarded for six hours during the attack when normally you’d be shot if you got within ten feet of the border wire? As Charlie Kirk asked were the guards told to stand down?

Just asking as no one seems to be able to answer that question.

No I’m nor on anyone’s side. I find the whole thing as confusing as the next person and the question above needs answering otherwise it just adds to the confusion. On the other perhaps it’s meant to?

ellie-em
6 months ago
Reply to  Epi

I’ve pondered on that,too. I don’t know what the answer is. Who would or could have stood the guards down and why?

Covid-1984
Covid-1984
6 months ago

That our cretinous Prime Minister supports these people, says all you need to know about their imaginary claim. Israel cannot be defeated, they are God’s chosen race.

Bettina
Bettina
6 months ago

Import anti-semitism, become anti-semitic. Successive governments have imported this poison and like Japanese knotweed or grey squirrels it will take over.

RTSC
RTSC
6 months ago

Perhaps you will say that these people are not representative of the UK,”

They’re not. But they ARE representative of the Muslim hordes who have been imported here over the past few decades and the anti-Semitic Marxists who have taken over State Institutions, including the BBC.

Tintin
Tintin
6 months ago

As we all know by now, if we think they are coming for only Jews, think again. They are here to destroy the west, demolish the democratic system and replace it with sharia, take over our parliament and install their warped system.

Rusty123
Rusty123
6 months ago

Not suprised in the slightest, people of this ilk are merely sheep following the sheepdog, they care not that all are human beings, all deserve the same respect, they only understand hatred of whatever the latest thing is, sort Palestine out, it’ll be “another” thing to hate, what shocks me is supposedly intelligent people can hold so much hatred for someone simply because of who they are, when they don’t even know them, and how they can support terrorists, because that is all Hamas are.

sharon
sharon
6 months ago

From other journalists’ accounts, the response to Matthew was fairly typical.

There’s some really not nice people on the marches!