German State Media Have Systematically Slandered Charlie Kirk in the Wake of his Assassination
This woman is Dunja Hayali. She is known to millions of Germans as the anchor for the ZDF public news programme heute (‘today‘). The day after Charlie Kirk’s assassination, Hayali glossed the story by conceding that “there is no justification for those groups celebrating [Kirk’s] death”, before deploring without any specific reference or citation “his often abhorrent, racist, sexist and misanthropic statements”. She proceeded to call Kirk a “radical religious conspiracy theorist” who nevertheless “struck a chord with many people”, given his large following and his “well-attended” events.
Later, Hayali appeared on a state media podcast, where she again with no evidence attacked Kirk as “too radical, too racist, misanthropic and misogynistic” and “simply inhumane”. She said that while “violence cannot be a solution”, “you don’t have to feel sympathy or pity” in connection to his violent death. Instead of offering condolences or regret for his murder, she advised that it would be better to “just shut up for a moment and perhaps not say anything at all”.
Following a massive public outcry, Hayali has declared herself the victim of a Right-wing hate mob and said she will take a few days off.
This man is Elmar Theveßen. He is the Washington D.C. correspondent also for the state media broadcaster ZDF, and he is routinely presented to the German public as an expert on all things American.
Theveßen: [Kirk] has very, very strong Right-wing convictions. Let me give you a few examples. For example, he said that homosexuals should be stoned to death. … He said that black people are taking jobs away from white people because of the policies of the Democrats in recent years. He said that if you’re sitting in an aeroplane with a black pilot, you should be afraid.
Lanz: Have I understood you correctly, he said homosexuals should be stoned?
Theveßen: Yes, of course he’s referring to the Bible, when he says that Christianity should be taken literally. He’s not applied this to modern times, which is actually, um, largely, well of course. But you can say these are racist statements, these are anti-minority statements, and it’s also true, clearly, he belongs to the Right-wing radicals in the USA.
Were Charlie Kirk still alive, he could request that charges be brought against Theveßen for slander, and his widow could probably still file a complaint under section 189 of the German criminal code, which prohibits “Defiling the memory of the dead”. Of course, nobody thinks this will happen, which is why Theveßen has decided to trifle with the truth in this case.
In response to inquiries from BILD, Theveßen said that he “regrets not having been more detailed”, but naturally he stopped short of apologising. After I and others brought Theveßen’s remarks to the attention of the US State Department (along with another podcast appearance in which Theveßen implied that White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller was a neo-Nazi), Richard Grenell called for authorities to revoke his work visa.
And the US Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau replied with this ominous image:
Mysteriously, the ordinarily voluble Theveßen has gone silent.
Among other things, the two women discussed Charlie Kirk’s assassination, at which point this exchange occurred:
Miosga: Let’s also talk about what happened this week. In the US, ultra-Right activist and Trump supporter Charlie Kirk was shot dead this week. Afterwards, your personal assistant posted a so-called meme, a photo with the caption. Let’s take a look…
Miosga: He then deleted this post, saying that Right-wing extremists had put it in the wrong context. Did he tell you what the proper context was?
Reichinnek: On the very same day, there was another school massacre. [Reichinnek appears to be referencing the September 10th shooting at Evergreen High School in Colorado, which left two students wounded and the shooter, Desmond Holly, dead by suicide. While regrettable, this crime would not meet any reasonable definition of a “massacre”.] And that was a very cynical way – but unfortunately also a very fitting way – to say, with this school massacre, you just move past it.
But I thought it was really good that you also described [Kirk] as ultra-Right-wing, because others call him a ‘Right-wing conservative’ and that’s simply not true. He was a white supremacist, he was against the right to [sex/gender] self-determination. He said he would force his 10 year-old daughter to give birth were she to be raped. He is a racist.
So these statements he makes are really extreme. And I think you should never rejoice over anyone’s death. But you also don’t have to feel pity or respect for a person like this. … Kirk, who was shot, said that some casualties are simply something we have to endure for the freedom to bear arms.
And [my aide] used this meme satirically, to point out that this focus [on political violence] is completely absent when it comes to other areas. For example, it was absent in the case of the murdered Democrats. … And I’m always very surprised that it is precisely this ultra-Right-wing nationalist who is now being mourned so widely. I’m rather annoyed that the Junge Union [the youth wing of the CDU], for example, posted their condolences, when you consider what kind of person Kirk was. They didn’t do that for the murdered Democrats a while ago. So that’s also a question that needs to be asked.
Miosga: But he was murdered.
Reichinnek: Yes, by another Republican. And that’s problematic.
Miosga: And you’re surprised that people want to mourn someone who was murdered?
Reichinnek: I don’t know if this is the kind of person you would say was such a good person and just a right-wing conservative. No, he was very problematic. And as I said, you have to be aware of whom you’re platforming.
Neither Miosga nor Reichinnek have issued any clarifications or corrections, nor have they apologised.
I originally planned a much broader piece on the reaction to Kirk’s assassination, but the loathsome celebrations of social media activists are now well-trodden territory, so I have confined myself here only to the most mainstream, accepted and establishment-friendly press personalities and media outlets in Germany.
We have before us here a systematic campaign, too coordinated and consistent to be an accident. The aim of this campaign is twofold. On the one hand, our press hopes to portray Kirk as an unhinged and dangerous fascist, but to stop just short of blaming him for his own death – the sin for which MSNBC fired their ‘analyst’ Matthew Dowd. On the other hand, they want to cast his assassination as very far from regrettable, while leaving any open celebration to the foul activist circles in their milieu.
Before September 10th, most Germans had never heard of Charlie Kirk, and so there was no reason for our press to denounce his politics and lie about him in this way. They could’ve reported this story much differently – perhaps as yet another crazy campus shooting in the gun-crazed United States (a favourite if tiresome trope of German media elites, however inapplicable in this case), or simply as the regrettable murder of a prominent American activist with connections to the MAGA movement.
Instead they have chosen the path of deceit and slander, because they are hysterical and desperate lunatics who have cultivated a political discourse that is so deranged as to be nearly beyond comprehension. If this were a German story about the murder of a prominent AfD activist, our journalists would report on it as sparingly as possible and condemn the AfD for playing the victim, while activists would stage a new round of demonstrations ‘against the Right’. But this is an American story, and because the headlines from the United States have made Kirk’s assassination unavoidable, they have instead chosen this shameful path. They think they can get away with it, because German journalism is a highly insular and incestuous world, and language barriers ordinarily prevent lies of this nature from travelling very far beyond our own borders.
Some media outlets described Charlie Kirk as a conservative. Unfortunately, that’s pretty stupid. Many true conservatives still haven’t realised that they would be the first victims of extremists like Kirk. These world-weary conservatives come across as people who probably would’ve cried if Stauffenberg’s assassination plot had succeeded. Their argument is that the victim was someone who inspired young people; and besides, Kirk at least discussed things with his opponents, so he can’t have been a Right-wing extremist. But that’s exactly why he is. Because extremists discuss things too. By pretending to talk to those they disagree with and spouting the same old tired arguments, they can then present themselves as champions of freedom of expression.
So, Kirk is Hitler, his assassin is a successful Claus von Stauffenberg, who has saved these tiresome “conservatives” from being Kirk’s “first victims”. All this nonsense just openly propagated by a German state media broadcasting operation.
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Solentviews
6 months ago
Has Germany really got any better since the Wall came down? Maybe for a few years, but now it seems stuck in reverse. From closing nuclear power stations, inviting immigration, not contributing to NATO, potentially cancelling popular political parties etc. Now it doesn’t even seem to know the difference between right and wrong.
This has become the modus operandi of the establishment’s media hit men. Create hoaxes by misrepresenting what their opposition says. And then for good measure, gaslight the crap out of everyone telling them their opposition spreads disinformation and needs to be regulated. For the sake of democracy, no less. It’s pretty sick stuff.
Germany as never had any ‘freedoms’ since the last German government got arrested by the British military on trumped up charges in 1945. German politicians and establishment society figures always parrot the US democrats to the letter. It’s them you should be pointing a finger at, not their German lackeys (and certainly neither ‘Germans’ in general).
As not everyone might know this: This was the government lead by Großadmiral (‘grand admiral’) Karl Dönitz residing in Mürwick and he got arrested because of the ‘war crime’ of unrestricted submarine warfare against Britain. This happened despite the USA employed unrestricted submarine warfare against Japan.
She proceeded to call Kirk a “radical religious conspiracy theorist” who nevertheless “struck a chord with many people”, given his large following and his “well-attended” events.
German state media is the propaganda arm of a once democratic establishment rapidly devolving into totalitarian regime which nevertheless strikes a chord with many people, given their viewership numbers and how often they are referenced.
Presumably most people either agree with, or at least don’t strongly disagree with, the bias and opinions of the news/current affairs programs they watch.
Why bother watching programs that wind you up and might not be good for your health?
I stopped watching BBC and Channel 4 news over 5 years ago because they wound me up to the extent that it probably wasn’t good for my blood pressure.
Same really, suspect that’s the case for many of us here. It got me so riled that I was the only one in reality, that it got quite heated with family and friends.
Lucky, all of my family now understand and most of my friends too. Those that don’t are no longer friends unfortunately.
Matt Dalby
6 months ago
These pathetic excuses for journalists would be completely at home at the BBC, Channel 4, Guardian, Independent etc.
I will be amazed if the Trump administration does not cancel visas and apply visa restrictions to those named in this report. I would also like to be in the room if the German Chancellor or Foreign Minister meets the US administration as I imagine a few home truths will be told to them.
Could Eugyppius tell us in a later article about how the German people are responding. Do they see much online media or overseas media which accurately reports the facts or ar ehtey taken in by the state run and private near monopoly news conglomerates.
They’ll be like us. About 25% more or less aware of what is really going on and the rest a mixture of normies and completely politically disengaged people.
I’ve read a couple of lengthy pieces by a German ‘right wing’ blogger and journalist how shocked she was about Kirk’s death and how loathsome the official public reaction to that was. AfD MPs have posted similar things. But, of course, the offical German line about the AfD is that they’re literally the refounded NSDAP and just waiting to reopen concentration camp to torture all their political enemies to death¹, so, it’s unclear how many people this actually reaches. Polling suggests probably more than ¼ and less than ½ of German voters, though.
¹ Read: They were opposed to Corona while it lasted and are opposed to so-called climate protection policies and uncontrolled mass immigration and – as if this wasn’t enough – are generally positive about Germany as peaceful, democratic republic and even advocate for patriotism.
Early comment: The term Hayali used was menschheitsfeindlich, not menschenfeindlich. While misantrophic is the proper translation of the latter, the former is enemy of mankind, a direct allusion to the crimes against humanity ‘Nazis’ are usually accused of and one every German will have understood as such.
“I’m rather annoyed that the Junge Union [the youth wing of the CDU], for example, posted their condolences, when you consider what kind of person Kirk was. They didn’t do that for the murdered Democrats a while ago. So that’s also a question that needs to be asked.”
Err, not mourning or ignoring someone’s assassination is on a completely different level than celebrating and mocking it.
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Has Germany really got any better since the Wall came down? Maybe for a few years, but now it seems stuck in reverse. From closing nuclear power stations, inviting immigration, not contributing to NATO, potentially cancelling popular political parties etc. Now it doesn’t even seem to know the difference between right and wrong.
In short, it has squandered its freedoms.
This has become the modus operandi of the establishment’s media hit men. Create hoaxes by misrepresenting what their opposition says. And then for good measure, gaslight the crap out of everyone telling them their opposition spreads disinformation and needs to be regulated. For the sake of democracy, no less. It’s pretty sick stuff.
Germany as never had any ‘freedoms’ since the last German government got arrested by the British military on trumped up charges in 1945. German politicians and establishment society figures always parrot the US democrats to the letter. It’s them you should be pointing a finger at, not their German lackeys (and certainly neither ‘Germans’ in general).
As not everyone might know this: This was the government lead by Großadmiral (‘grand admiral’) Karl Dönitz residing in Mürwick and he got arrested because of the ‘war crime’ of unrestricted submarine warfare against Britain. This happened despite the USA employed unrestricted submarine warfare against Japan.
German state media is the propaganda arm of a once democratic establishment rapidly devolving into totalitarian regime which nevertheless strikes a chord with many people, given their viewership numbers and how often they are referenced.
It’s not surprising that evil spouts evil.
However, I wonder how many people a) actually watch these demonic shit bags and b) how many believe it.
Presumably most people either agree with, or at least don’t strongly disagree with, the bias and opinions of the news/current affairs programs they watch.
Why bother watching programs that wind you up and might not be good for your health?
I stopped watching BBC and Channel 4 news over 5 years ago because they wound me up to the extent that it probably wasn’t good for my blood pressure.
Same really, suspect that’s the case for many of us here. It got me so riled that I was the only one in reality, that it got quite heated with family and friends.
Lucky, all of my family now understand and most of my friends too. Those that don’t are no longer friends unfortunately.
These pathetic excuses for journalists would be completely at home at the BBC, Channel 4, Guardian, Independent etc.
I will be amazed if the Trump administration does not cancel visas and apply visa restrictions to those named in this report. I would also like to be in the room if the German Chancellor or Foreign Minister meets the US administration as I imagine a few home truths will be told to them.
Could Eugyppius tell us in a later article about how the German people are responding. Do they see much online media or overseas media which accurately reports the facts or ar ehtey taken in by the state run and private near monopoly news conglomerates.
They’ll be like us. About 25% more or less aware of what is really going on and the rest a mixture of normies and completely politically disengaged people.
I’ve read a couple of lengthy pieces by a German ‘right wing’ blogger and journalist how shocked she was about Kirk’s death and how loathsome the official public reaction to that was. AfD MPs have posted similar things. But, of course, the offical German line about the AfD is that they’re literally the refounded NSDAP and just waiting to reopen concentration camp to torture all their political enemies to death¹, so, it’s unclear how many people this actually reaches. Polling suggests probably more than ¼ and less than ½ of German voters, though.
¹ Read: They were opposed to Corona while it lasted and are opposed to so-called climate protection policies and uncontrolled mass immigration and – as if this wasn’t enough – are generally positive about Germany as peaceful, democratic republic and even advocate for patriotism.
I found this link just recently. The implication is that some people knew about the murder beforehand.
https://freebeacon.com/politics/exclusive-fbi-investigating-social-media-accounts-that-appeared-to-indicate-foreknowledge-of-kirk-assassination
I am beginning to think that Russian expansionism would be no bad thing for Germany.
Early comment: The term Hayali used was menschheitsfeindlich, not menschenfeindlich. While misantrophic is the proper translation of the latter, the former is enemy of mankind, a direct allusion to the crimes against humanity ‘Nazis’ are usually accused of and one every German will have understood as such.
“I’m rather annoyed that the Junge Union [the youth wing of the CDU], for example, posted their condolences, when you consider what kind of person Kirk was. They didn’t do that for the murdered Democrats a while ago. So that’s also a question that needs to be asked.”
Err, not mourning or ignoring someone’s assassination is on a completely different level than celebrating and mocking it.