Charlie Kirk’s Murder Has Left British Young People in Stunned Sadness

Yesterday I wrote that on British college campuses there would be two reactions to Charlie Kirk’s death: happiness and sadness and one would be louder than the other. I am relieved to report that, early mood music from the young people I have spoken to, suggests that stunned sadness pre-dominated. And it seems to be the video, rather than the mere fact of his assassination, that fashioned this response.

I spent yesterday talking to 17 and 18 year-olds and they were universally saddened and disgusted. My son told me yesterday morning that some of the girls had put up posts with the hashtag ‘Charlie Kirk #karma’. He was not looking forward to attending college and defending the legacy of Charlie Kirk. However, by mid-morning the #karma posts had been taken down.

“It was the video. No-one could watch it and not be shocked and upset,” he explained. He attends one of Britain’s largest sixth form colleges, which I hope is representative of the wider student cohort. “It was a really strange day,” he explained on returning for dinner last night. “Everyone was talking about it, about how sad it was, about his young children. There was no gloating. Those people who initially seemed pleased, changed their minds once they saw the video. No-one could celebrate that. It was bad.”

For those who haven’t seen the video, do. It shows a strong man sitting, talking to enthusiastic college students. He flinches backwards and blood falls out of his necks; pints of it geezers out in seconds.

One 18 year-old I spoke to had tears in his eyes. “My parents always made us watch the general elections and I never understood the jeopardy. I didn’t know the MPs involved. Charlie Kirk felt like one of us. I felt like I knew him.”

Another girl said: “There’s this video going around too of his daughter in a studio, there’s a loud noise and she’s frightened and she runs over to her Daddy and he gives her a big hug. It’s so sad that her Dad is now dead.”

A boy about to set off for university at the weekend told me. “The video was just so real. I watched it about 20 times. No-one deserves that.”

Much has been made of the fact that we now live in a post-literate society. It is a shift that must be taken seriously. We may all lament the fact that students no longer have the sustained concentration to read long books, but we must acknowledge the raw power of the visual. Those who painted those writhing bodies in hell in Florence’s Duomo understood the ability of imagery to terrify and chasten.

We also live in a society that is sanitised from the bodily brutality of death, and thankfully war. Depraved aspects of life are cleaned up with neat language (CSE instead of paedophilia) and thankfully most of us won’t have to mop up pints of blood from a young man murdered. But in being cordoned off from the reality of death or murder, we forget what is actually at stake.

Arguments against resorting to visual imagery in political debate appear sensible: we mustn’t whip up sentiment, we mustn’t rely on emotion to make judgements, violent images will encourage violence. But what if the opposite is true? What if violence and raw imagery and videos shock and chasten a population?

If video footage of Sir David Amess’s murder was widely broadcast, would MPs have reacted as they did? If the population sees, on repeat, footage of doctors injecting the elderly and we watch them die, jittering, retching and soiling themselves, would ‘Assisted Dying’ have got through the House of Commons? If reels were seen by millions of the biological reality of late term abortion, would it have been decriminalised?

Sometimes videos are so shocking that everyone, no matter what political colour are stunned into grief and mourning. Rather than rely on pure reason, careful logical and long form articles to persuade, perhaps politicians and campaigners will find themselves reverting to this more visceral, and effective, form of argument.

Joanna Gray is a writer and confidence coach.

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Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago

Well said, Joanna Gray.

Some of us are old enough to remember the televised assassination of John F. Kennedy, with his wife Jaqueline desperately trying to crawl out onto the back of the open car to retrieve the piece of his head, blown away by the bullet.

10navigator
10navigator
7 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

I saw that at the time. I was 15 yrs old and remember precisely where I was when I first heard the news on my transistor (tranny) radio. A different time a different meaning! Some things can’t be unseen, which is why I won’t watch the Charlie Kirk assassination footage. It’s simply too tragic for words.

Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Reply to  10navigator

I know what you mean— I don’t want to watch that footage either, for similar reasons. And to think Charlie’s wife and little children were there, and some Evil Leftists actually gloated about that, laughing at their suffering. It’s just satanic.

EppingBlogger
7 months ago
Reply to  10navigator

Me too. I could place myself within inches. I was chatting with a chippie and watching him work overtime.

Marcus Aurelius knew
7 months ago
Reply to  10navigator

Same here. It’s the same with Oswiecim. I won’t visit it. I have no need. My imagination tells me everything I need to know, and that is horrific enough.

Marque1
7 months ago

I went to Belsen when I was a young soldier and stationed not too far away. That was bad enough, still haunts me.

LizT
LizT
6 months ago
Reply to  10navigator

Same here. I was 14 when JFK was assassinated. I felt much the same when I heard CK had been shot

Dinger64
7 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

Not quite as experienced as you as far as years are concerned but I would guess,15% celebrating and 85% in silent stunned disbelief! Maybe a turning point Heretic?

Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Reply to  Dinger64

I hope so, Dinger! The world desperately needs a turning point…

Dinger64
7 months ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Ive just followed the video link and seen it for the first time, I’m stunned, all i keep saying is ‘oh God, no’ over and over.
The kids should be stunned, i hope they will be searching their souls for justifiable reason as to why they would condone this! Hitler and the Nazis killed millions, Charlie kirk didn’t. Hitlers death was an international sigh of relief not a celebration!

Dinger64
7 months ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Man celebrates seconds after charlie kirks murder

https://youtu.be/PkqKHSsDv_g?si=uDsaqzIfGN-mJgo0

His name is Matt Taber

Marque1
7 months ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Unavailable.

Mogwai
7 months ago
Reply to  Dinger64

That’s why I was certain it was a pro assassin job. Because he got the kill shot first time from a decent distance. And because there appeared to be no witnesses and he wasn’t apprehended at the scene.
So this young delusional guy has not only murdered an innocent man just because he didn’t like what he said, but he’s thrown his own life and future away into the bargain. I think the perp could’ve had prospects as a professional sniper. Instead I hope he gets the death penalty and his poor family get to watch their son’s life go down the toilet. For an evil act like this I think he deserves everything he gets. “Eye for an eye”. But to throw your entire life away because of words…🤯

Marque1
7 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

148 yards is not a decent distance, it is very nearly point blank range. Look up point blank.

Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  Marque1

Er…to somebody who’s only shot a pretend rifle at a fair ground, 135m qualifies as a “decent distance”. Take a chill pill.

Marque1
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Stop being so defensive. The comment was educational nothing else. Learn something.

Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  Marque1

Stop being so bloody abrupt, learn to engage with people in a respectful manner, then perhaps posters won’t feel the need to be defensive. I’m not here to have my comments taken out of context and be ‘educated’ by someone who’s got a bee in their bonnet and a stick up their ass. Try taking your own advice and learn some basic courtesy and check your ego at the door!

Marque1
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Snowflake alert. Next thing you will be accusing me of ‘mysogyny’. Seems to be your default position. Calm down, dear.

Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  Marque1

Hater alert! Wow, you know you’ve ruffled a few feathers in the DS Boys Club and made quite the impression when you end up with your own personal pet troll. But what’s one more to add to the list, right?🤷‍♀️
Nowt as fragile as a weak man’s ego. Oh dear, oh dear….petty AF.🙄

LizT
LizT
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Shut up Mogs. Ever heard the expression When in a hole, stop digging? There was nothing disrespectful in his first response. You’re giving us women a bad name

Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  LizT

You STFU! Stated like a true free speech proponent…🤦‍♀️And what hole? Can’t I make a comment without some arrogant man on here homing in on a tiny segment of it and twist it so my overall post is taken out of all context and proportion? But thanks for having my back, as per, flying monkey!
Provably I’m the only woman on here who’s neither coward nor a complicit little enabler. But keep on ingratiating yourself with the hostile menfolk, whatever you do. 🙄
“You’re giving us women a bad name”? And how the feck do you come to that conclusion? Because I’m demonstrably the only woman who’s not submissive, who doesn’t just put up and shut up? What does one’s gender have to do with anything? Try not sticking your oar in to other people’s exchanges in future. Unless, of course, the particular man involved here is unable to fight his own battles…? 😏

Marque1
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

The thick is strong in this one. 😁

Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  Marque1

And yet here you are, still trolling. All because you took exception to a couple of words in a tiny part of my original post and couldn’t stand the fact I might have a different interpretation to what constitutes a “decent distance” from you. As if something like that cannot be completely subjective to a person who only shoots water pistols on occasion.🤦‍♀️
Have you any idea how obsessive and emotionally stunted you sound?

Marque1
6 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Nasty when someone does not blow smoke up your rear end, telling you how great thou art. You are pathetic, petulant and very immature. You should get help, and perhaps a job. Cheerio, child.

Mogwai
6 months ago
Reply to  Marque1

Best try harder with your put-downs. Lame, very lame. Emotionally stunted, all the way down……And as is common knowledge, once a person resorts to insults they lose the argument. So on that bombshell, adios Loser. 😉

The Enforcer
The Enforcer
6 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

Well said. Joanna is a very good writer and should get more exposure.

Mogwai
7 months ago
JXB
JXB
7 months ago

Reminiscent of the Zapruda ciné-film of JFK’s assassination which caught the moment his head exploded with the second hit.

That too had a profound effect. Another case of two small children suddenly without a father, a wife without a husband.

https://youtu.be/cueoZa6RJEc?si=cIqjKuXLMdsOh_Ts

Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Reply to  JXB

And, if some historians are correct, the traumatised young widow had to stand, still in her bloodstained suit, next to her husband’s secret killer as he was sworn in as the next American President…

Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Hound of Heaven
Hound of Heaven
7 months ago

Impossible to hold a minute’s silence for Kirk in the EU Parliament today owing to noisy objections. What kind of hate filled people would do that? Good job the UK got to keep its self respect by leaving.

Gezza England
Gezza England
7 months ago

Good news to hear that Utah still has the option of death by firing squad – #karma.

Jon Garvey
7 months ago

The first graphic videos shock and motivate. The subsequent ones increasingly brutalise. Don’t forget the former taste for public executions and the addiction to gladiators and public torture in the Colosseum.

As a police surgeon I did see people who had bled out when stabbed or been bludgeoned or raped. The experience is psychologically damaging.

Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

That is exactly why police officers and medical staff, and all emergency services, should be paid massively more money than lawyers, for example. The public who are so quick to blame the police for everything fail to understand the horrors and extremely traumatic situations they have to deal with on a regular basis, in contrast to lawyers & judges lounging in comfort at their exclusive clubs.

I will always be grateful for the simple, sound advice given to me by one of the police officers attending various traumatic events here on the council estate: “Don’t dwell on it.”

Jack the dog
Jack the dog
7 months ago

…. excellent article Joanna.

Marcus Aurelius knew
7 months ago

In the blurb for this article,

“…stunned sadness … including among the Left-wing youngsters who had initially gloated online.”

It shows how powerful the online brainwashing is and how it has pushed out normal face-to-interactions… the first time a large portion of the youngsters even contemplated that some of their peers actually LIKED CK, it was a surprise to them, and they left that meeting having changed their ideas, at least a little.

EppingBlogger
7 months ago

I was at the memorial (for so it seemed) in Whitehall this evening. The average age was much much lower than mine. A lot of people and all very sad but optimistic this event might (just might) cause then left to pause and think – are their calls for violence against anyone who disagrees with them a good idea.

RTSC
RTSC
6 months ago

TBH, I hadn’t heard of Charlie Kirk before his assassination. Everything I have seen and heard of him since has been positive: he was an admirable young man who bravely carried out his mission to debate with young people who disagreed with him, in the hope that polite, respectful discussion and debate would lower the political temperature and avoid violence.

I am disgusted by those who have celebrated or sought to justify his murder because “he was provocative” or held “nasty opinions.” They should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Where is their basic humanity?

This is what the intolerant left, political correctness, “woke” and mob-rule cancellation has led to: the murder of a decent young man; another weeping widow and a fatherless young family.

The best quote I have heard from Mr Kirk: “they tried to bury us (young right-wingers) but they didn’t realise we are seeds.”

I hope those seeds flourish and grow and Mr Kirk is remembered in the same way Martin Luther King is remembered – a decent man who tried to improve the world.

Twm Morgan
Twm Morgan
6 months ago

Charlie Kirk’s murder was a terrible tragedy.
I was also saddened to learn that a petition was signed by a thousand at Utah university objecting to his presence and the fact that he would be permitted to discuss his views.
I do wonder what has happened to young people. Is it that they are being indoctrinated by their lecturers and teachers who so often are of the Extreme Left?

sharon
sharon
6 months ago

Well, I can’t watch the video, because I refuse to sign in to YouTube. And they need me to sign in to prove my age…. 67!

Rusty123
Rusty123
6 months ago

I think the part of the article regarding people seeing things via video clips is interesting, yes you never can unsee things, think 9/11, but does that de sensistise some people?, I will not watch the clip, I have no desire to see someone murdered for their beliefs, I do wonder however how his children will cope and process not only watching their daddy die, but the vitirol and hatred that the LW filth have since uttered.

Covid-1984
Covid-1984
6 months ago

When a Tyrant dies his reign ends.
When the Martyr dies his reign begins.