Charlie Kirk Assassinated
In a moment that has sent shockwaves across the world, Turning Point founder Charlie Kirk has been murdered while addressing a university audience in the United States. President Trump had this to say about it on Truth Social:
The Telegraph filed this report:
Charlie Kirk, the de facto leader of the MAGA youth movement, was shot in the throat by a gunman from a nearby building at Utah Valley university while answering a question about mass shootings committed by trans people, according to those in the audience.
Graphic footage posted online showed the moment the 31-year-old founder of Turning Point, who was speaking beneath a gazebo in front of a large crowd in an open-air venue, fell back after a single bullet shot hit him in the neck. …
Mr Trump ordered American flags at the White House and across the US to be flown at half mast.
The shooting could spur the US President to bolster the presence of National Guard troops on American streets amid fears of civil unrest.
“I was watching Charlie. I can’t say that I saw blood or that I saw him get hit, but I did see him fall immediately backwards,” a witness told Fox news.
The event was the first of Kirk’s “America comeback tour” of US campuses. He asked students to challenge his viewpoints at a “prove me wrong table”, often debating trans rights and other hot button issues.
J.D. Vance, the Vice President, paid tribute to Kirk, writing: “Eternal rest grant unto him, O Lord.”
A suspect had been detained but has since been released:
You can read the Times’s obituary here.
He was only 31 and had a wife and two young children.
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Here’s Douglas Murray commenting.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxcrcv1MVvQ&pp=ygUORG91Z2xhcyBtdXJyYXk%3D
Murray makes an outstanding point in that if you promote the idea that words are violence, then you are really inviting physical violence as a response.
By promoting the idea of “hate speech”, governments are justifying violence. In government’s case, justifying its own violence towards its citizens who have ideas government does not approve of.
Long prison sentences for tweets are akin to state violence.
Absolutely.
The proportional response to words is words.
Those who don’t support free speech want to give themselves the licence to respond to words with physical violence.
Horrified. What a tragic loss for his family, friends, supporters.
Such a tragic loss particularly for Charlie’s young family.
I’d like to think that as a sign of respect the media could now drop the myth that all Trump supporters are base violent animals and all those on the left use logic, facts and at most peaceful protest to make their point.
This is horrific, and the blame rests squarely with the left wing commentators and media who throw around words like Nazis and fascists. I would hope that they’re all ashamed of themselves this morning, but somehow I doubt it.
God speed Charlie, you’ll never be forgotten. Prayers for your family and friends.
There will be many of them saying he deserved it.
For the umpteenth time, I’ll say it again; the radical progressive Left are vile people.
I’ve only seen snippets of his debates here and there, I didn’t even know his name until a week or so ago, and I found him coherent, intelligent, courageous and, unlike most of his opponents, calm and extremely polite. If anything, it shows that the Left truly fears these people that so easily dismantle their twisted logic using facts and simple logic. The Left are the real intolerants and neo-fascists, while they hysterically claim the same about anyone slightly leaning right of the centre.
The governor of Illinois blames Trump’s “incendiary rhetoric” for it. So, no, not much shame. Just more gaslighting.
“the blame rests squarely with the left wing commentators and media who throw around words like Nazis and fascists”
Well maybe but what about the person who pulled the trigger?
Was he paid to do that, I wonder?
Certainly possible
Indeed. It might turn out to be some mentally ill person.
What is terrifying to me though is some of the response to his assassination, which says nothing about the person who killed him and his motives, and says everything about the people themselves making the comments.
100%
As always they are guilty of exactly what they accuse others of
So extremely sad.
A bad day for free speech as well. How can we get back to civilised debate.
RIP Charlie Kirk.
The left are actually trying to justify this, they are really beyond help and I dread to think where this will lead. It will take a concerted effort to democratically remove the western politicians who stoke up hatred by their name calling which their feeble minded supporters find acceptable.
some people are realising that only radical action will rid us of these people.
https://alt-market.us/bring-back-asylums-its-time-to-talk-about-transgender-fatigue-in-america/
The organisers and funders should be brought out into the open but this won’t happen until the people of the western world remove these politicians who enable them from power.
This is what the left’s demonisation of anyone who doesn’t share their warped, woke views leads to: political assassination of a man who was engaging in political DEBATE.
Perhaps the likes of McDonnell, who ridiculously branded Farage and Reform as Fascist, should ponder on that.
You are correct, but let’s not forget that our Prime Minister branded people who were upset about small girls being stabbed to death as far right thugs. The left doubled down on this and they then used the judicial system to punish anyone who stepped out of line.
The world has lost a great man a truly enlightened man who would bravely and calmly debate anyone with opposing views. Seeing the TT vids of young lefties on X this morning rejoicing at his death is truly sickening. They didn’t like him because he spoke the truth.
When people make the argument that free speech can lead to violence, they are right, but the violence it most commonly leads to is the violence of those who want to shut free speech down.
No words.
And then, we must use words. Again. And again. And again.
May his memory forever be a blessing.
While I didn’t agree with all his Christian beliefs he was a brilliant debater and could dismantle his “opponents” misguided ideas in a few words and with kindness and patience.
A great loss to the world, not just the USA.
It’s not entirely unsurprising that people who think that talking about something they really don’t like is a violent action resort to violent measures to ‘defend’ themselves against it, blueprint “He was violating my human rights by questioning my chosen gender and hence, I had to shoot him in self-defense!”
That someone’s reportedly already blaming “Trump’s rethoric” for this just demonstrates how deranged these murderous madmen actually are —- “Oh, you mean a white guy got shot for white guying? Well, he has only himself to blame!”
Rest in Peace brave heart.
I’m in a hotel at the moment and overheard another guest at breakfast talking about this. She didn’t name Kirk but referred to him as “some Republican”. I presume it was meant dismissively but didn’t hear the rest of what she said, but I wonder what she even meant by it. She sounded English, so I wonder how much she knows about US politics and in any case “Republican” beyond voting consistently for that party because it’s the least bad option seems like a meaningless term. Political beliefs are not defined by which party you vote for .
The prevalent myth in Europe is that Republicans are the brutish, stupid and evil ‘fascist’ party whose members can never really legitimately hold any office “in a true democracy” while their opponents are who all good people really must support because otherwise, they’re simply not good people.
At least if you’re German, that’s what you’ll get fed alongside bottled milk from a really early age on. I’ve believed in it myself for long enough because it was simple “the universe” to me (eg, I believed everything about Trump his opponents told about him until about 2016 when I first started to question things and I believed in this firmly enough that I wasn’t even aware of the fact that legitimate difference of political opinon exist. To me, this was just a question of “obviously good” vs “obviously evil”).
That they were also the original abolitionist party while their “All good people!” opponents decidedly weren’t is a bit of historical irony on top of that.
Yeah I think it’s pretty similar in the U.K. albeit maybe less intense.
A comment from the disgusting MSNBC this morning
“We don’t know if this was a supporter shooting their gun off in celebration, so we have no idea about this. But following up what was just said, he’s been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to: Hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions.”
In other words hate won’t win, and anybody who says anything we don’t like deserves to get shot. So shut the f*ck up.
Sickening.
We don’t know if this was a supporter shooting their gun off in celebration, so we have no idea about this. We also don’t know if this wasn’t really a alien spaceship which had about the size of a bullet and merely collided with Kirk by accident while travelling through the atmosphere at high speed. Or if this was just a very localized extreme weather event caused by man-made climate change. Or maybe, God sent an Angel to strike the evil man down. We don’t really know that this didn’t happen either. Coming to think of it, there’s so much one can imagine which could have caused this not very regrettable death whose absence we cannot conclusively prove that we don’t even now for certain that Kirk actually died because of the event. It could have been a sudden heart attack occuring milliseconds earlier! —- This parody is an attempt by me to provide some insight into how disgusting lies like this one are being constructed. The underlying fallacy is an appeal to ignorance: We don’t know for certain that X didn’t happen, therefore, X could have happened. This may sound plausible on first sight, but We don’t know anything… Read more »
This ‘commentator’ clearly relishes the assassination of a political opponent and is saying that the sword is mightier than the pen, he is effectively supporting also the killing of Charlie Hebdo journalists and of the terrorist religious murders of thousands of innocent people. Sorry, who is the purveyor of hate division MSNBC ?
These are the comments of Matthew Dowd
In some ways we are worse than America. I cannot image anyone like Charlie Kirk even being invited on to a university campus over here.
I used to think that the apparent polarisation in the US was a bad thing and a sign of an inferior political system and civilisation, compared to us sophisticated Europeans with our more consensus based tendencies. I have completely changed my mind on that.
If this murder had happened here ‘planned spontaneity’ would have been triggered, lots of emotional goo poured on the victims, lots of talk of ‘community cohesion’ and no focus on the devilish murderer or his ideologica motivation. Think Manchester arena, think Southport.
100% though I think we are slowly catching up
May God rest the immortal soul of that brave Christian Patriot,
and comfort his young wife and little children.
Double double toil and trouble, fire burn and cauldron bubble: thus did the witches of MacBeth stir up murder and mayhem delighting in death and destruction of law and order, in parallel to the macabre social media posts of these American ‘liberals’. Tim Stanley is right, this assassination is deeply evil and chills to the bone, as is the responsive dance macabre of our modern day witches. We now get close to the heart of the ‘far Left’ and their religious allies. Charlie Hebdo, Charlie Kirk, the 127 worshippers executed by Jihadis
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gkx78xeg8o all victims of brutal ideologically driven followers of das Nichtige, the heart of darkness.