Shame on the Centrist Commentators Who Piled on ‘Sophie of Dundee’
Last month, shocking footage emerged of a 12 year-old girl in Dundee, Scotland, brandishing a knife and axe while being filmed and confronted by a foreign man. “You’re f****** battering kids mate,” says the girl, who we now know is called Lola Moir. “Don’t touch my little sister, she’s 12,” says a taller girl, her sister Ruby. The cameraman advances on the girls, demanding repeatedly in a thick accent that the younger of the two “show the knife”. Eventually she produces a knife and an axe.
The incident, naturally enough, went viral, symbolising for many the lengths white British girls have to go to in order to protect themselves from seemingly predatory migrant men. Indeed, in what many saw as a classic example of the UK’s ongoing anarcho-tyranny, it was the girl, Lola, not the man, who was first arrested, for carrying the weapons. Dubbed ‘Sophie of Dundee’, she was soon being hailed as a Braveheart character by figures including Tommy Robinson and Elon Musk.
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The girl sounded scared to me. The man was clearly provoking her to show the weapons on camera. I wonder what his motives were for the video and what occurred before he started recording.
I seem to remember reading that he’s Roma, not ethnic Bulgarian, The name Ali certainly isn’t a Christian Bulgarian name.
There was a third girl involved in the incident who ended up in hospital with a head injury.
I welcome this article except that it doesn’t go far enough in debunking the defence that grew up around the ‘Bulgarian’ who has since been arrested..
On first viewing strikes me that the girls are the aggressors and the Romanian is just calmly trying to get a picture of the knife to show what they are like
Well maybe give it a second viewing and put yourself in the shoes of the young girls. I certainly don’t go around the streets filming and goading young girls. As you can see the immigrant has now been arrested. Doesn’t that tell you something?
That he’s coming after two girls obviously trying to get away from him while yelling at them certainly suggests that he was extremely frightened by the seriously dangerous situation he found himself into.
NB: That’s sarcasm. The video documents a grown-up men harrassing two you teenage girls which wouldn’t be a match for him even if they were actually armed with something they could only use at the relatively puny length of their arms. The guy is clearly in a fit of rage he considers to be perfectly righteous but it really just demonstrates that he’s a foul tempered chap with only a very thin layer of civilization painted on the surface.
See the posts below for further details.
The picture of this low life posted above indicates that he is the sort of trash that has no place in British society.
Export immediately.
Why doesn’t he effoff as asked then? Why is he filming minors? If he’s being aggressed why is his tone so provocative and smug? And lastly.. are you ffing deaf? The girls are telling him he them which makes him is a kid batterer. So who’s the aggressor?
The girls are appealing to a common level of decency amongst the civilised of this country: you don’t hit children or girls.
You don’t think that – perhaps – as he was the one filming, that something else might have happened beforehand?
Fraser Mayers was a disgrace during Covid as he pushed Covid ‘vaccines’ for children hard, despite all the evidence of the downsides. He has never apologised. Brendan O’Neil should have moved him on years ago.
Freddie Sayers normally does better but has made a big mistake here. There must have been a lot leading up to this incident. Young girls don’t usually, (ever?), decide to go out and threaten adults minding their own business. If they did they wouldn’t be sounding as distressed as they did.
Spiked and Unherd need to raise their game.
I’m ending my annual subscription to Spiked after far too many weak stances like their take on young Lola, they’re a bit too Lib Dem these days for my tastes.
Tom Slater never misses a chance to have a go at what he calls, ” the very online right” and Brendan O’Neill never shuts up about Israel and antisemitism.
Unherd have always been sneery to people that they consider to be their inferiors, very New Labour.
I used to subscribe to both Spiked and Unherd but have ditched them both. Spiked got the boot because of Brendan O’Neil’s push for jibby jabs for Care Home staff and for which he has never apologised. Unherd got the heave-ho for one too many lefty articles.
Occasionally I might read a Spiked article but Unherd I just cannot be bothered with.
Understandable. Do you subscribe to anyone else? I’m looking for other reputable outlets.
I subscribe to rather a long list which somewhat dents income but here it is…
The Conservative Woman
The New Conservative
Freespeech Backlash (not yet a paid subscriber)
Off-Guardian
UK Column News
The Light (newspaper)
Together
I also check in to Dr Mike Yeadon’s Telegram channel, Global Research News, The Expose, Zero Hedge.
Miri AF has an excellent blog which is always worth a read.
Frequent daily peeks into Guido Fawkes’ blog helps keep me up to date with Westminster nonsense.
The Critic magazine.
Bournbrook magazine.
There are scores of other alternative outlets that I dip in to and all of the above inevitably provide links to other interesting channels.
If you need links let me know or message me through the DS website.
Good luck.
Thank you for that list, so much more extensive that I’d hoped it would be, looks like I’ll have a lot to check out. I also like Guido Fawes but aside from it, which of those listed do you always visit no matter what?
If you have any time left after reading all of those I’d like to recommend a Substack by Firas Modad called Modad Geopolitics. He’s a Lebanese Christian analyst based in the UK and covers a ton of areas that don’t get much coverage over her and he updates frequently.
https://www.modadgeopolitics.com/
My daily reading without fail:
1. DS
2. TCW
3. Freespeech Backlash (FSB)
4. Guido
5. Off-G
Dr Mike Yeadon most days – he helped through the C1984 massively and Global Research although its anti Israel stance really pees me off.
‘History Debunked’ on YouTube is always worth a watch as rarely more than five minutes, as is Black Belt Barrister although he tends to waffle on at times; needs an editor.
Thanks for the link to Modad I will check this out tonight.
Cheers, much appreciated.
Why not try the hiwire podcast with Mr Del Bigtree. They have actually led the main push back against the lie of mRna vaccines.
Thanks, will do. Do you watch John Campbell on youtube? He still reports on the mRna scam.
Don’t watch him on Youtube. He also has a Rumble channel.
https://rumble.com/c/DrJohnCampbell/videos
Better to patronize sites that oppose censorship.
The bloke who organises a roller skating session I go to brings copies of The Light to the sessions. I’m probably the only one who doesn’t think he’s nuts.
Here are the ones I read regularly:
Powerline https://www.powerlineblog.com/
Manhattan Contrarian https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/
Jonathan Turley https://jonathanturley.org/
Coffee and Covid https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/
Racket News (Matt Taibbi) https://www.racket.news/
And I watch Dr. Campbell on Rumble (not YouTube) https://rumble.com/c/DrJohnCampbell/videos
I had no idea there was so much good reading out there, thanks for letting us know.
I do use Rumble but the YouTube habit can be hard to break, still I must try harder. Are there any other good Rumble only channels that you watch?
Unherd videos can be informative, at times, but is it worth it? And the articles? Well, many are from the previous century, and not even of undergraduate quality, which is unexpected, as several authors are or have been professors.
Well done Laurie for looking more critically. You are right that many middle class people find these adolescent girls distasteful… too uncouth, too wild… and hard to sympathise with. Children who have grown up in chaotic, neglectful and possibly violent homes are simultaneously aggressive and desperate for love and attention. Perfect fodder for unscrupulous men. Frequently not believed. Easy to dismiss.
Very hard to judge but my experience tells me there is usually considerable truth in what children say if they are kicking off. Hope someone gets to the bottom of it for the sake of these girls….as the article says we need to learn from the ghastly details of the rape gangs.
I remember at the time articles were saying the girls could be linked to a local gang, as if that was a good reason to dismiss what they were saying. Like all those girls in care who weren’t believed about the rape gangs because they’d been in trouble themselves. I went off the rails a bit when I was about these girls’ age, but because I was raised in a loving, stable, middle-class family in a peaceful rural town, that didn’t involve violence, gangs, crime or any of the other dangers more prevalent in their environment.
It’s quite common for supposedly ‘right wing’ commentators to rush to identify with supposedly non right wing causes, in an effort to ensure they are not perceived as predictable robots in their commenting and careers. A DT commentatator told us that the Rochdale rape gangs had ‘absolutely nothing to do with Islam’, a view which can quickly be destroyed by consulting the scholars and the ex Muslims’ testimonies. The right/centre right/centrist block is terrified of being identified as culturally conservative and common sense. The Bulgarian and his wife: why were they approaching the Dundee girls at all, surely a form of harassment and threat or provocation? There is really no right wing intellectual group in British politics since the right, especially if we include the heirs to Blair party, will always seek to the appease left wing ideology which is why we now have the Uniparty system. Feminists now attack ‘the right’ for highlighting immigrant rape statistics as ‘racist’, that most sinful and evil of labels of which this ‘right’ is most terrified – the victim girls take second place at best, and the grooming gang victims of Labour Councils and police are themselves considered trouble makers and slags, whether… Read more »
Hear, hear.
The Terfs only care about the trans subject, I haven’t heard them even talk about the rape gangs and yet the right still panders to them but the fact is that the Terfs are hardline feminists who despise men and most of them are pretty left-wing on every other subject.
The right should boot them to the kerb and no longer associate with them, they are enemies, not allies.
Julie Bindel. A “terf” who has been at the forefront of the rape gang lobby.
Good, at least there is one, any other prominent ones?
What’s the Bulgarian bloke been charged with?
We’re not allowed to know.
For some reason… 🤔
These two so-called weapons still look like toys to me. I’d also still like to know how this altercation actually started. But that’s just because I’m curious and not because I think this kind of behaviour of adults towards female children could somehow be justified.
Please see my post above. I was struck by your previous comment some days ago that you thought the weapons looked like toys, which seemed likely, because of the way the slightly-built little girl raised them so easily, and stowed them away later in her trouser pockets so quickly, which would cause her an injury if they were real sharp blades.
Idiot Leftists also called what looks like a kitchen bread knife a “machete”, showing that they’ve never even seen a real machete, like those wielded by the Muslim Gangs roving through English streets after the Southport protests.
Or worked in a kitchen?
Does he know where carrots come from: the supermarket?
Thanks to Laurie Wastell & the DS for telling the truth about this! Here is a summary of what those with access to social media said, after watching the video testimony of Ruby’s 13-year-old friend who was there, which was partially featured on a Dan Wootton video. I have never been on social media, and have no access to it unless someone else provides a direct link. I’m only passing on what I’ve gathered in defence of those brave girls, and cannot vouch for the details. After Ruby’s friend had gone swimming with her at a local indoor pool (hence Ruby’s apparent swimming costume in the video), Lola rang them and asked if they wanted to meet up at the park, so they did. As they were walking past the Bulgarian Muslim and his sister, the man approached little Lola and harassed her with comments, calling her “sexy” several times, which made all the girls angry, and Lola brandished her weapons in self-defence, having experienced this kind of harassment before from Muslims, while Ruby tried to protectively push her away from the man, and shouted at him to leave her little sister Lola alone. What the video didn’t show was… Read more »
Where was it announced that he had been arrested on those charges?
If that is correct, and he is found guilty, presumably he’ll be on the next plane back to Bulgaria? Which, incidentally, wasn’t at war last time I checked.
The charges have not yet been announced, and knowing our justice system, they may try to use a mental health excuse, or give him and his sister (not his wife, who is pregnant) a lesser charge. I’m only passing on what I heard.
You are right— there is no war in Bulgaria, and no reason at all for him to claim asylum here, or to be given a council flat. No doubt they used the pregnancy to get the flat.
Like everybody else, I am wonderig WTF this f’kin’ lowlife is doing in the UK bumming off the taxpayers’s dime?
Plus I expect he’s not alone.
What we need is a sort of untouchables division of home office investigators trawling through the records of all foreign born individuals either on benefits or in council housing, and getting all their leave to remains and asylum grants rescinded unless there is overpoweringly good evidence that it is justified (ie brain surgeons etc) and getting them all kicked out no ifs no buts no appeal.
Seconded 👍
Good idea, but now Starmer has put the Devout Muslim Pakistani woman Turnip Legs Mahmood in charge of the Home Office, whose parents are from the same Mirpur region that Scots Patriot Leo Kearse pointed out in a video.
She belongs on a Terrorist Watchlist, not in charge of Immigration to the UK.
Why are there so many Pakistanis in Britain? And how Labour’s Mirpur Airport plan will bring in more
On the platform previously known as twitter, a user called Aesthetica has published reports based on information from the girls and another witness.
A girl called Ruby was assaulted by two migrants, and spent time in hospital with concussion. It was after this assault that Lola tried to scare off the migrants with the knife and axe.
“we described the vicious assault where the sister of the migrant violently attacked Ruby unprovoked, yanked her to the ground by her hair, then her and her brother “The Gypsy Gangster” proceeded to kick her head in while she lay defenceless on the ground. You’ll also recall that this is what motivated Lola to pull out the Knife and Hatchet to scare off the violent migrants and save her sister’s life.”
Thanks for that confirmation of the Bulgarian and his sister attacking Ruby. But it happened AFTER she sent her little sister Lola home to protect her.
That’s why Lola was not there to protect Ruby from them later, because Ruby had sent her home so she wouldn’t get into trouble for brandishing the weapons.
Aesthetica also reports that the Scottish police tried to pretend that the attack on Ruby never happened, until they were forced into admitting that it did.
Incredible! Thanks for that appalling news. I hope that maybe it’s because half the Dundee police force are Vibrant Diversity Quota Hires or something.
Fantastic stuff. Good to read journalism holding other hacks to account for selling out. The Mail piece is interesting – they must have been following orders, but from where? As for Aberdeen University Professor’s daughter and professional feminist Stock, shame on her. Not such a women’s champion if they’re not of the bien pensant class it seems. I watched the footage in slow motion with no sound. It is revealing. What becomes apparent is that the taller girl is interceding between them. She then gets out her phone and her left hand goes up to cover her right cheek – the delayed reaction of someone who’s been hit or slapped. As she is brandishing the weapons the first girl shoots anxious glances at her sister and around her, and then walks off, only to return and confront the man again. At this point you can see the sister’s arm and hand appear between them, palm facing the man, interceding again. Why intercede with a strange man that’s hit you? The obvious explanation is that the man was known to her. There seems to be an emotional angle to this appeal. How did he know her? My bet is that Mr… Read more »
It was 12-year-old Lola that the Bulgarian was harassing, calling her “sexy” several times as they walked past him, which made all the girls angry and frightened. See my post above.
In the video, he had not yet hit Ruby. He and his sister attacked Ruby later and beat her severely, after she sent Lola home so she wouldn’t get into trouble for brandishing the weapons.
A girl of 12 cannot take on a grown man with household utensil type ‘weapons’ as he could easily knock her over before she’s even in reach, thanks to his much longer arms (unless he’s very timid).
Yes, and that’s why she is so brave, to brandish her weapons defiantly, and to carry them with her in self-defence, knowing that even if ultimately defeated, she would go down fighting.
She really IS a Working Class Heroine, because of her Warrior Spirit from an ancient time. Awakening now.
The French are calling her “Joan of Arc”.
I recommend axe throwing lessons – that will surprise the scum.
I was talking from her perspective
The cartoon picture of ‘Sophie’ that accompanied Kate OBE’s piece for Unherd looks like part of a storyboard for a new Harry Potter film where the girl has become a Pictish berserker in the House of Sturgeon.
Aside from that, like all propaganda posters, this drawing is not necessarily untrue. It’s a truth heightened in intensity and one dimensional. Instantly encapsulating an entire issue in an image. Irritating to the intellectual sort of mind that wants to compartmentalise and classify, and debate ‘nuances’ – those excuses for calling a spade a spade.
In this case, the slop came from the Unherd kitchen; the picture was worth a thousand words and the pen not mightier than the sword.
The picture…
“It’s a truth heightened in intensity and one dimensional. Instantly encapsulating an entire issue in an image.”
Nailed it. This picture will live for ever.
Kate the Philosopher made a nice try of it in her piece for Unherd. She refers to ‘Asian rape gangs’. Evidently, we must we go through the lecture again. Does ‘Asian’ mean Chinese or third generation Ugandan Indian? At least the ‘rape’ part was accurate; ‘grooming’ is no longer remotely tenable. The particular kin group involved elsewhere in these ‘gangs’ acts as a kin group, not as a territorially-based gang of lowlifes from Dundee’s Coldside. And the other characteristic of this kin group is a motivating factor in their targeting. It’s not all ‘just’ misogyny, Kate. Kate’s namesake, Katie (Lam) helpfully read out some of the court transcripts to the serious of the Commons, just to make it clear what the convicted perpetrators’ motivation was. In her Unherd piece, the Philosopher writes: Sexual exploitation of minors has been rife in places like Glasgow, Edinburgh, and Dundee for decades — if not centuries — without the authorities getting a proper grip on it; and the perpetrators have usually been homegrown. It will have taken centuries for the homegrown gangs to tally up the 1400 victims in Rotherham. If the total figure is tens of thousands across the country in 20 years, there… Read more »
Well done for calling out “Kate the Philosopher”! This use of “Asians” needs to be dropped, because it foolishly lumps in Ethnic Orientals from Korea, Japan, Phillippines, China, Thailand, Burma & Indonesia, etc. with Ethnic Indian Subcontinentals: Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans, Afghans & all the rest.
Not to mention Arabs, Turks, Armenians, Israeli Jews and many different kinds of inhabitants of Russia which all live in Asia, this being the largest continent on earth. Plus a real plethora of other peoples of many different phenotypes.
Exactly!
The rapists are over 90% Mirpur Kashmiri Pakis.
Aye and we’ve shedloads of the barstewards in Oldham.
Like the new devout Pakistani Muslim woman now in charge of Immigration at the Home Office, who should be on Terrorist Watchlist instead of in the British government.
Great article, Lawrie. Please keep following this. I believe the Albanian moslem (with a Bulgarian passport) is due in court on Oct 9, so we might find out what he is charged with.
Probably subject to a news blackout.
Albanian Muslim masquerading as Bulgarian? Good find!
There’s been no war in Albania for a quarter of a century, so how he was able to get “asylum” and a council flat is beyond me.
Please keep on to this ‘story’ Sceptics/Laurie, I for one am very keen to know more about this. If the comments from other readers are accurate (with all due respect, it’s hard to know) there is an important point here.
For too many in the media the mention of Tommy Robinson and even Elon Musk elicit the ‘don’t give them airtime’ response. Just because you don’t like the messenger it doesn’t mean the message is not true.
Yup. I reckon there’s much more to it. According to another reader the man and his ‘wife’ caught one of the girls and beat her up.
If this was a random encounter how did they find her? No. They know where she lives. They know her. He’s a grooming pimp.
Please don’t forget that Dundee is the place where Humza Yousef lives, where his brother in law is a drug gangster, where a man ‘fell’ to his death out of the brother in law’s window.
This drug empire is apparently run from Oman.
Humza’s father in law has of course two families. One in Dundee and one in Palastine.
Such richness.
Well done for remembering that!
Freddie Sayers dropped the ball on this one. Sadly. I rate him and his platform very highly. I hope he issues clarification and maybe an apology to those he denounced.
I remember him as one of a very small number of media people who have airtime to sceptics during Covid
Fraser Myers is a pompous windbag. I cancelled my subscription to Spiked after his idiotic article attacking Andrew Bridgen. Myers was demonstrably wrong but bulldozed over all sound criticism of his position. Why Spiked, which otherwise seems to be an excellent publication, retains Myers on the payroll is a mystery, but I’m not re-subscribing or very much reading Spiked so long as they keep publishing his drivel.