Starmer Pushes Digital ID Cards for All After Macron Demands Action to Tackle Scourge of Illegal Working in Britain
Keir Starmer is pushing for everyone in Britain to be forced to sign up for a digital ID card after Emmanuel Macron demanded action to tackle the scourge of illegal working in Britain. The Mail has more.
Sir Keir Starmer told the Cabinet he would be “exploring options around digital ID” as part of a wider package of reforms designed to make it harder for illegal migrants to live and work in this country.
Downing Street confirmed Ministers are examining proposals for a digital ID scheme 15 years after the idea was abandoned following an outcry about the impact on civil liberties.
Under one option, anyone applying for a new job would be required to produce their digital ID to demonstrate that they have the right to live and work in this country. Similar provisions could also be introduced for those moving to new accommodation, making a benefit claim or seeking to access public services.
Labour ruled out ID cards as recently as July this year, with Business Secretary Jonathan Reynolds saying the idea was “not our approach”.
Sir Keir has been told by President Macron to address the “pull factors” attracting migrants to Britain in return for French help in stopping the boats.
Whitehall sources said Tony Blair has also continued to push the idea behind the scenes.
And, with Sir Keir coming under intense pressure to be seen to be acting on illegal migration, he has now changed tack.
The PM’s official spokesman told reporters that the Government would “always look at what works”.
Asked if the idea could eventually mean compulsory ID cards for all, he said: “We are willing to look at what works when it comes to tackling illegal migration.”
Questioned about the civil liberties row that ended the last bid to introduce compulsory ID cards, the spokesman said Ministers believed “the debate has changed since the last time we had this discussion”, with people more relaxed about the idea of having to prove their identity online.
The idea is set to be discussed at an emergency meeting chaired by Sir Keir aimed at accelerating work to shut down the UK’s 200 migrant hotels.
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Problem, reaction, solution.
I doubt this problem was created just for digital ID, but certainly an opportunity not to be missed.
Ah yes indeed good point – the “problem”, as with so many “problems” created by successive governments here and elsewhere, is the gift that keeps on giving.
The EU never let a crisis go to waste to extend its cancerous tentacles into further areas of control.
Over my dead body!
STOP GIVING THEM F***ING BENEFITS, FREE EVERYTHING AND OTHERWISE BENDING OVER BACKWARDS FOR THEM, YOU CABBAGE.
NO TO DIGITAL ID.
You don’t get it. European leaders are puppets of the Globalist Cabal, puppets of the Soros family, puppets of the WEF. Their goals have long been totalitarian control of all western societies, based on the model of communist China, where everyone MUST carry a phone carrying their “health pass”, enabling total control of the individual. The European Union is now implementing the similar “Vaccination Card” which leaves Britain out of course. Illegal immigration has been nourished by successive British governments, in order to provide the pretext for bringing in “Digital Identity”, which will of course show your vaccination status, enabling the state to deny you access to all kinds of services if your vaccines are not up to date. This affront to English Common Law, to our freedom so dearly paid for by the blood of our forefathers, including the life of my own Uncle in WW2, is something the masses will probably take in their stride, since they are mesmerised by the mainstream media. We should each one of us take ACTION against this, the simplest of which is to distribute information randomly (leaflets on car windscreens for example), publicising the existence of independent media sites such as this… Read more »
Yep—-Correct. The managed Decline of the west using tools like “Sustainable Development” and Mass Immigration so we all just feel like citizens of the world rather than of Individual Nations.
The Government do not serve us anymore. They serve the Global Governance people. It is International Courts and Treaties that make the decisions, and it is governments job to comply and align.
I resisted the original idea because I feared the prospect of mission creep until any jobsworth could demand “Your papers, please”. I don’t think the mission creep Digital IDs is any the less and could also result in a black market for forging digital ID.
When you see how well the Online Safety Act is doing you have to wonder how any sane government would want to tackle more digital mayhem.
Well they’re not sane starmer is a complete moron and so is his entire cabinet.
Plus they hate the English.
Not a Moron just a very very bad person
Just because he was something in the legal world and got a Sirdom for doing what taxpayers paid him to do does not mean that he can’t be a moron as he shows a total disconnect from common sense.
Digital ID cards will make no difference whatsoever to the ‘immigration’ situation – as Starmer and everybody knows. It’s just another excuse for increased surveillance.
Nothing to do with Macron.
If people work illegally why would the idea of an ID card affect that.
The poliuce are discouraged from stop and search in areas where criminality and knives are prevalent so what is being suggested – “show me your papers” approach, as in the worst sort of authoritarian states.
Years ago, maybe two decades ago, we learned there were more NIO numbers than people in the country. False ID would be just as big a business as all the othyer forms of fraud.
They will just bother white people.
‘Ihre Papiere bitte’
In my experience of suggesting (where the opportunity arises), to anyone and everyone, that they should consider maybe using cash one day a week – in order to avoid losing it and the option to transact privately – I doubt there will be much pushback by the apathetic British public.
Touch the pad and ‘bip’ – bank balance, biometrics, private data – what could possibly go wrong?
What a surprise ! NOT !!…
Big Discussion incoming … SIX yes SIX .. AFD Politicians have died all at once separately 12 days before local elections !!
What’s wrong with the existing methods i.e a passport, driving licence and/or NI number?
… oh yeah, it’s for social credit system implementation!
We’ve had this ( ‘DigiD’ ) in the Netherlands for donkey’s years. I’ve gotten around using mine by going about things in a more laborious way, such as sending dentist invoices to my insurance company via snail mail, instead of scanning them through DigiD, or ringing hospitals directly to make/change appointments. DigiD is more about convenience than anything.
It wasn’t until the municipality recently changed my neighbourhood to paid street parking only that I had to use it to get a parking permit. So things like for accessing government websites it’s unavoidable.
It’s also obligatory to carry a residence permit, which is where you go for your photo and fingerprints taken every 10 years. These things don’t bother me, personally. They’re not restrictive and I refuse to live in fear about what might be being plotted and planned for some arbitrary time in the future.
Why would you want digital ID?
Why would you want a system that has the potential to control?
A system that can be hacked?
A system that falls down the minute the power or internet goes down?
A digital system adds nothing positive apart from convenience.
So in balance I say ‘no’ to digital ID.
It’s not about “want”, it’s about being unable to do things such as file tax returns without it, seeing as you need to use it to access government websites and their agencies. With certain things you can circumvent the system, but not with everything.
Plus, it was already in existence and widely used by organisations when we moved here so whether I oppose it or not is a moot point. I just have to live with it, but I’m just saying it hasn’t impacted my life negatively, is all.
… but I’m just saying it hasn’t impacted my life negatively…
Oh My God Mog, such certainty, and you would know this, how?
… but I’m just saying it hasn’t impacted my life negatively… Oh My God Mog, such profound certainty, and you would know this, how? Ever heard of the Stasi? If you haven’t already, do watch, The Lives Of Others. Then envisage the automated online collection (aka ‘harvesting’ ) (via both optional and mandated Apps and Forms and so, unavoidable online transactions) – as if by an enormous and voracious vacuum cleaner – of ALL of EVERYBODY’S (personally identifiable) data into eeenormous but physically small data warehouses (aka ‘silos’), and the manipulation, control, deliberate mischief and error strewn mayhem that would inevitably follow. Imagine being in a cashless, ‘banking online only’ world and being de banked – maybe by automated software – and having no idea why, or how to regain access to your money and ongoing (essential) banking facilities. I mean, that could never happen to you, or me, or anybody else, right? Or, living in a terraced home and being ‘all paid up,’ yet suddenly denied access to your parking space. The inconvenience. Not knowing why. Who to contact. What’s the process? How long will resolution take? Is your Social Credit score too low? Why? Is this your punishment… Read more »
I am still without a DigiID. Can do my Dutch taxes etc. Use my BSN (similar to NI- number). But I don’t live there permanently, so understand it would be a challenge living there and not having a DigiID.
Ever heard of the boiling frog syndrome?
Back 2005 the LSE wrote a superb paper on digital ID systems: including a whole section on current and planned systems in other countries. I read it as I was a member of NO2ID; and I re-read it a month ago to make a submission to HAC, for this back-from-the-grave attempt to try digital ID again.
I suspect that “more info is needed” on the Dutch system. It might well be relatively benign, with privacy and mission-creep safeguards.
Whatever Starmer is proposing – at the behest of the Great Undead, Tony Blair, back for another bite of the ID cherry – will 100% not be benign, with safeguards.
The advance of the bureaucracy is relentless and will not stop with ID’s, digital or otherwise. After digital ID it will be something else. It’s always more. Never less.
Give in to digital ID and they will just move on to the next thing, the next intrusion, the next control mechanism, the next chain around our necks.
It’s never enough.
Indeed. I’ve deactivated energency alerts on my smartphone, as a token gesture!
I am set against any form of compulsory ID. A digital ID is even more sinister.
Do the numpties pushing this not realise that just like with ‘fake passports’ someone, somewhere will churn out fake digital IDs and make vast profits from it.
Just say no.
Like locking razor blades and high value hygiene products behind glass in supermarkets, we are all being punished for a small minority the Establishment are too frighted to acknowledge, much less deal with the core offenders.
If identity of economic migrants working in the black economy or worse is a problem, identify them, not ordinary British citizens. We have done nothing wrong.
If illegal migrants are the problem, that is because the majority have ditched their identity documents before entering Britain. They should be fingerprinted, photographed and have their DNA taken as they step off the boat or whatever illegal means of entering the country. They have broken the law and should be subject to the same processes a law abiding citizen would be if they broke the law. That biometric information should then be incorporated into a photo ID card that illegal migrants should carry at all times or be subject to prosecution. If they fair to do so on three separate occasions, particularly if caught breaking the law, then you’re out, quite literally.
That would deal more effectively with illegals who’ve concealed their identity, and prevent much of the benefit and housing fraud we see perpetrated.
ID cards have been Blair’s objective for decades.
This is why the Establishment is allowing / facilitating the invasion. They are desperate to get Digital ID so they can build a Social Credit System.
I am increasingly worried about this turn of events.
The way the government is acting appears to provoke the general public. Do they want more dissent? And will they then push through digital ID under the guise of safety and order?
What more can be done to stop this?
Does anyone know the result of the public consultation on this (ended 21st of August)?
I don’t know. I wrote 11 pages to the HAC (I think it was that committee). But I haven’t heard anything since 21st Aug. No doubt, if HAC is critical, their discussion will be hidden away in Hansard. Not mentioned by the BBC (hollow laugh). I rely on folk like Big Brother Watch and Together to keep my informed…
Wow 11 pages! Impressive!
So it’s impossible to use the existing National Insurance numbers to police illegal workers? It’s just as easy to tighten up the issuing of NI numbers as to register the entire country on a new database. It’s also easy, when suspicious, to check employees’ NI status and punish illegal workers and their employers harshly.
For me, the digital ID is a further incursion of the concept of “guilty until proven innocent” which is gradually creeping into British life. Think of all the hoops you now have to jump through when investing money (if you’re still fortunate enough to have spare cash), to prove you’re not money laundering.
We already have an identification document to show you can work here its called a National Insurance I.D.
Once again this is a lie to introduce another control system as championed by the Prince of evil Tony Blair. Nothing apart from closing and Policing the borders will stop the Migrants, and its very simple to find out who those are already in here, just look in the Prisons, the hotels, the workers for Deliveroo, and all the other companies that deliver around the UK. Go visit every home in the Uk and ask to see their N.I., their passports etc.
Remember when all the surveillance cameras were introduced? for our protection, well we are the most surveiled country in the world, and yet we have rapes of children, murders, robery every day on our streets, and the criminal roam freely, but darn they sure are good for the State to extract fines and other moneys from us aren’t they?
Starmer and his coterie are our of control tyrants, they are abour supression, control and inflicting suffering on those who dare to stand up to them.
We must not allow these people to gain control of us.
There are more NI numbers than working age people in this country no reason to believe the ID won’t be fiddled. The problem is immigration
The Online Safety Act is the thin end of the wedge- and moving towards the thick end – for introducing digital ID.
the dolling out of NI numbers to all and sundry has been going on for years with every single government complicit in allowing this.
Re: photo. Either Macron is stood on a box or Sir Kneel is doing what comes naturally.
“..with people more relaxed about the idea of having to prove their identity online.”
VPN use has increased because people are not more relaxed about State control of our lives.
It’s interesting that 2TK recognises that being able to work illegally in this country is an incentive to come, but it’s interesting that of all the incentives they choose to tackle it’s this one, and utilising digital ID, a solution that will have absolutely no effect on the illegal activities of these people, but will have a massive effect on our own liberty. They must think we are absolutely stupid. Blair has been pushing this line for years. Enough said.
I will doing a “Boris” with mine either literally or figuratively if it ever comes to being rolled out.
If the men who arrive in dinghies knew they would be incarcerated in buildings similar to warehouses..ie big metal sheds, surrounded by electric fences and no freedom to wander our streets, all whilst waiting to be deported, do you think they’d still want to come here?
Yes, or my favourite deprtation to a detention compound on an islet in the Falklands.
Perhaps we should require confirmation that countries that do have a compulsory ID do not have any illegal immigration before agreeing.
We mustn’t get into a normalised conversation about it – the answer is ‘f*** right off with your national digital ID plan, or leave government now’
Just for the record I am not more relaxed about the idea of proving my identity online or having compulsory ID cards. I was never ‘relaxed ‘ by it in the first place.
It’s a clever use of words isn’t it – moving it forward, step by step… only a few years past ‘no one is safe until everyone is safe’ bollocks
“Questioned about the civil liberties row that ended the last bid to introduce compulsory ID cards, the spokesman said Ministers believed “the debate has changed since the last time we had this discussion”, with people more relaxed about the idea of having to prove their identity online.'”
**** off. And go and read the 2005 LSE Report (https://eprints.lse.ac.uk/684/) while you’re at it.
The debate has not changed. The spokesdroid just thinks that perhaps we’ll be suckered more easily this time.
One thing’s for sure: this system, “meant” to be to prevent immigrants with no right to work from working, is not designed to be used on them. It’s designed to used on us. Illegal working (so, what were all those passport checks every time I’ve started a job all about then?) is just the pretext.