New Study Reveals the Secret Minds of Vegetarians: Many Are Preening, Authoritarian, Sociopathic Control-Freaks, Just Like Greta Thunberg

As a small child, I was once sent to an (obese) NHS dietician nurse, due to being overweight. She didn’t like hearing about my diet of ice-cream pies and sugar on toast when I told her about it, and wanted to know why I didn’t eat any meat. The real answer was because I didn’t like the taste. But this wasn’t good enough for her. So, I thought of a much better excuse: I had heard animal rights people on the TV complaining about meat-eating being an all-time human evil, so I just lied and said I thought eating animals was cruel and pulled a fake little weepy sad-face. Even though I was only about six, and as such wholly unqualified to make genuinely reasoned moral judgements about anything much at all, the nurse immediately shut up and said something like, “That’s your ethical privilege, and I must not judge you”, and I was free to return to eating sweets and crisps all day long, as it appeared she did.

Here I learned two valuable lessons. One: representatives of the state are my eternal, life-long enemy. Two: the true social utility of vegetarianism for many of its adherents is not genuinely to lessen animal suffering, improve their health, nor save the planet and their consciences simultaneously, but to function as a convenient method of moral blackmail to emotionally and politically manipulate other people into doing whatever you want them to, in this case the admittedly righteous cause of getting the NHS to stop peering into the contents of my own private lunchbox.

I thought about this lesson again when writing on the Daily Sceptic recently about those two professors from America who wanted to deliberately infect people with infectious tick bites, in order to make them allergic to meat and dairy products and turn them all vegan by force. This led me to wonder whether any studies had been performed into the psychology of veggies and vegans to see what it was that truly made them tick: altruistic motives, or selfish personal ones? It turned out such a study has in fact just been performed, and its findings were conclusive – that many committed carrot-chewers are actually no more than a bunch of complete sociopaths.

What’s Their Beef?

The investigation, ‘Rethinking Vegetarianism: Differences Between Vegetarians and Non-Vegetarians in the Endorsement of Basic Human Values’ by Professor John Nezlek, of SWPS University in Warsaw, appeared in the journal PLOSOne in May, and you can read it in full here (shorter summaries also appear here and here).

The piece was based upon analysis of questionnaires used to gauge the attitudes of 3,800 adults in Nezlek’s native Poland and the US. Participants were asked to answer, on a scale of one to six, how much they approved of values like being successful in the eyes of others, or of becoming rich. They were also asked to identify whether they were vegetarians, vegans or carnivores. Analysis of subsequent replies appeared to demonstrate that, contrary to the stereotype of lovey-dovey hippies like lentil-loving Neil from The Young Ones, the average vegetarian in fact showed a greater desire to try and wield power over their fellow men than the average eater of meat. They were also deemed more likely to value social status, and less likely to value kindness (as opposed to showy displays of #BeKindness).

Meat-eaters were found by Nezlek’s estimation to be more concerned with caring for family and friends, not upsetting the feelings of others unnecessarily, and upholding social stability, safety and traditional norms of behaviour – in other words, being mentally and morally normal. Vegetarians, however, were deemed to be more manipulative and ambitious, seeking to gain higher status positions in society from which to impose their wider niche political viewpoints (which centred more upon promoting novelty, stimulus and innovation) upon others.

So, whilst on a surface level the elevation of environmental causes by the vegetarian-minded might appear to be all about saving the planet, in reality it may well be more motivated by a subliminal desire for control over others and making them act how vegetarians say they should be acting – by surreptitiously injecting them with tick-borne diseases to make them vomit every time they so much as pass by a deli counter, for example.

Whilst expert opinion appears divided over whether or not Adolf Hitler was truly a vegetarian, as persistent rumours suggest, even if this turns out to have been just a myth, it nonetheless may still function as a myth which tells a social truth: namely, that vegetarians are more likely to possess authoritarian personalities, albeit not always to the extent of militarily invading the Polish Professor’s home country.

The Carrot and the Stick

In this reading, being a political authoritarian, like the tick-abusing Lefty environmentalists of today, makes you more likely to become attracted to espousing abstaining from eating meat not for genuinely moral reasons, but simply as another handy method to manipulate your peers. By presenting your own personal subjective dietary choices as being the ‘high status’ option, both socially and ethically, you give yourself spurious political sanction to march around telling everyone else what to do yet again, like a kind of meatless mini-Führer.

Naturally, Professor Nezlek does not try and claim all sausage-shunners are ‘literally Hitler’ or anything stupid like that. Many, like Morrissey, are perfectly sincere in their distaste for the animal suffering which things like battery-farming and slaughterhouses entail; others, like myself, just avoid consuming flesh because they can’t stand the taste, and enjoy annoying fat NHS nurses.

Furthermore, Nezlek admits, the psychological difference between the average vegetarian and average carnivore is, individually, actually quite slight. It is more the aggregate effect of such minor variances which is significant, he says: “These are small differences, but small effects can have large outcomes over time and accumulatively.”

Nezlek’s paper is very interesting, but the one thing it lacks is an emblematic individual case-study of the sort of mad veggie control-freak with an aberrant personality his research indicates could stand in as a worst-case scenario of his findings as a whole. So, let’s provide him with one here now: Greta Bloody Thunberg.

Political Bunfight

Famously, Greta is a vegan. Equally famously, she is, as Donald Trump has recently pointed out, “a strange person” who really “has to go to anger management class” before she gets so furious that she ends up finally killing someone just for eating some crab-sticks. But why is Greta a vegan? One could be forgiven for thinking that, rather than saving the planet, she really just wants to control the lives of everyone living on it.

Greta has openly admitted one of her chief aims in life during her early period of environmental activism was to emotionally manipulate her parents into going vegan too by “making them feel guilty”. In her own words:

I kept telling them that they were stealing our future and they cannot stand up for human rights while living that lifestyle. So then they decided to make those changes. My dad is vegan, my mom, she tries – she’s 90% vegan.

Idi Amin was 90% non-cannibal too, but it’s the 10 percent that counts there. How could Greta best try to ensure 100% compliance?

In a 2019 interview, Greta’s dad, Svante, admitted that, if they didn’t start completely upending their entire way of life and doing precisely what she told them to, then Greta would essentially kill herself by advancing towards the next dietary step beyond even veganism: not eating anything at all. Parents being parents, Svante and his wife did not wish their daughter to die, even if she happened to be Greta Thunberg, so, as Svante explained, his wife went vegan and stopped flying (something which “changed her whole career” as an international opera singer, i.e., by completely ending it) for the following reason: “To be honest, she didn’t do it to save the climate. She did it to save her child.”

In a 2020 memoir extract, Greta’s manipulated mum, Malena, explained how, during 2014, Greta virtually went on hunger-strike, initially due to generic reasons of emotional disturbance, letting out “an abysmal howl that lasts for over 40 minutes” when asked to eat a bun one day.

Instead of any more despair-inducing buns, the misguided adults around her soon decided to hand Greta a cause on a plate instead, in shape of environmentalism. One day, she was shown a documentary about ecological collapse in school, at the end of which her teacher had announced she would soon be flying across the Atlantic to attend a wedding in America. Greta spotted the hypocrisy immediately, finally giving the child a new sustaining obsession to latch onto.

The Greta Dictator

Gaining a purpose in life, Greta began eating again, causing relieved adults like her mother to begin encouraging her recovery by sycophantically lauding her as a little child-saint with quasi-mystical powers of moral perception:       

She saw what the rest of us did not want to see. It was as if she could see our CO2 emissions with her naked eye. The invisible, colourless, scentless, soundless abyss that our generation has chosen to ignore. … She was the child, we were the emperor. And we were all naked.

Increasingly, Greta began to realise that, by posing as an ethical sage and threatening self-starvation, she could get alleged authority-figures around her to immediately fall into line:

A few months later we walked home from the airport shuttle having met Svante and [her sister] Beata off a flight from Rome. “You just released 2.7 tonnes of CO2,” Greta says to Svante. “And that corresponds to the annual emissions of five people in Senegal.” “I hear what you’re saying,” Svante says, nodding. “I’ll try to stay on the ground from now on, too.”

Once Greta became famous, the displays of obeisance towards her divine will became even worse. According to her proud mum: “Several times a day people come up [to Greta] and say that they have stopped flying, parked the car or become vegans thanks to her. To be able to influence so many people in such a short time is bewildering in a good way.”

Or, perhaps, corrupting in a bad way. Bowed down to by a minority of susceptible individuals, this eventually becomes no longer enough, and Greta starts trying to impose her marginal will upon all others, giving speeches demanding parliamentary democracy right across her homeland of Sweden and the wider West be bypassed until she gets exactly what she personally wants on everything:

My name is Greta Thunberg and I am 15 years old. … Every Friday, as from now, we will sit outside the Swedish Parliament until Sweden is in line with the Paris agreement [on reducing CO2 emissions]. I urge all of you to do the same. Sit outside your parliament or local government, wherever you are, until your country is on a safe pathway to a below-two-degree warming target. Time is much shorter than we think. Failure means disaster. … The changes required are enormous and we must all contribute in every part of our everyday life. Especially us in the rich countries, where no nation is doing nearly enough.

Just look at those words: “we must all contribute in every part of our everyday life.” What a complete and utter vegan. We must do this or what, Greta? You’ll start screaming at your buns again?

It would appear Professor Nezlek’s broad analysis of the very worst character traits of vegans and vegetarians is correct, then, at least in Miss Thunberg’s own individual case. The wider problem here, however, is not merely the dictatorial mindset of Greta, but the similar one of the eco-politicians who immediately kowtow to her every last whim. Not being (literally) temper-tantrum little girls themselves, they can’t go on hunger-strike to force us to go green or vegan personally, but they can certainly exploit Greta’s own emotionally manipulative example as a convenient ruse to try and impose their own authoritarian tendencies upon the rest of us in their own turn.

Which does make me wonder: is Ed Miliband a secret vegetarian too, perhaps? It would help explain why he couldn’t eat that bacon sandwich a few years back.

Steven Tucker is a journalist and the author of over 10 books, the latest being Hitler’s & Stalin’s Misuse of Science: When Science Fiction Was Turned Into Science Fact by the Nazis and the Soviets (Pen & Sword/Frontline), which is out now.

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Grim Ace
Grim Ace
7 months ago

I don’t care what that vile, little communist pixxie wants. Let her have a tantrum. Let her go on hunger strike. She’s a classic example of terrible parenting. Leftist parents no doubt.
What she needs is a good, strong man to take her in hand.

kev
kev
7 months ago
Reply to  Grim Ace

True, but she probably also needs psychiatric help, if she’s prepared to seemingly starve herself to death unless she get all her own way, there is some mental illness there, which possibly no amount of strict parenting could fix!

RTSC
RTSC
7 months ago

Basically, she’s an indulged, spoiled, little brat who probably learned at a very young age that if she threw a temper tantrum, her parents would do whatever she wanted just to stop it.

And she’s been applying the same lesson ever since.

Mind you, I do think there is a tendency in vegetarians/vegans to want to get other people to join in their self-deprivation. A close friend suddenly became a veggie and immediately began trying to get others in the friendship circle to do the same. I put up with it for a little while and then told her to give it a rest … it was like being continually door-stepped by a Jehovah’s Witness. To her credit, she mostly did.

FerdIII
7 months ago
Reply to  RTSC

A Rothschild was her handler. Just a climatecidence. She is a moron. But they all are. As Steve says we are dealing with low IQ Fascists. You saw a lot of the same during the Rona plandemic.

Marcus Aurelius knew
7 months ago

Hitler was a vegetarian and animal lover.

It’s pretty well-documented, I thought.

JXB
JXB
7 months ago

And a “Green”.

Smudger
7 months ago

On the flip side Gandi was vegetarian and he was a peace loving man. Likewise, I think most Buddhists are vegetarian too. Although the Dalai llama is not strict vegetarian I believe.

Arum
Arum
7 months ago

It’s a social science study. I’ll wait until someone replicates the results before coming to a judgement.

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  Arum

Social science – a contradiction in terms.

RichardTechnik
RichardTechnik
7 months ago

Hmmn ! Heres an article Steve I don’t quite agree with. At 8 years old, I made a conscious decision to go vegetarian after contemplating the origins of the family Christmas dinner. My mother accomodated my chosen diet after warning me that it had better not be a short term whim. In the 60s and 70s it was not easy to eat at school or with friends and at work; part of my career was as a ship’s engineer, where food was provided for months on end, I regarded it as my personal choice and what I chose to eat or not eat was my choice and no-one elses. And as I treat others how I would be treated, others must be free to eat what they will . I have met a few evanglical vegetarians & vegans and found them to be of the same mindset as those who would be evangelical/obsessive about everything else. I have a few close friends who are vegetarians and feel our common ground is more about the positive and deeper thinking about this sort of life choice than perhaps others who have gone with the flow.. A vegetarian way of eating is not… Read more »

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  RichardTechnik

Whereas I survived several summers working in Bernard Matthews turkey factory (a good bloke was Bernard) and have remained staunchly carniverous (although turkey is far from my favourite).
However I am happy to coexist with both degrees of veggieness, so long as I am spared the proselytising.

For a fist full of roubles

PS It was so long ago during my student days that Matthews were just developing the turkey roll – they fed us the experimental product in the canteen. It was decades before turkey dinosaurs and the disgusting twizzlers were thrust upon our children.

MajorMajor
MajorMajor
7 months ago
Reply to  RichardTechnik

I’m not a vegetarian but I would be interested to try a vegetarian diet, just so that I could form a personal opinion.
But it would have to be proper, home cooked food, not some processed rubbish.
I think my best chance would be to live with an Indian family. My son used to know an Indian lady who would occasionally bring us some proper Indian food and it was always delicious.
I guess I would possibly be a veggie if I had married an Indian woman.

Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

“The total number of Indian Restaurants is in The UK is 11,378.

London is the largest province with a 17% market share (1,969 Indian Restaurants). Second is Manchester with 553 Indian Restaurants (5%). Hampshire also has a large number of Indian Restaurants: 305. These three provinces combined have an 25% coverage of the total number of restaurants in UK.”

List of Indian Restaurants in The UK • BoldData

Bettina
Bettina
7 months ago
Reply to  RichardTechnik

With you on this, having a similar vegetarian history through a similar time period – I still find it wonderful that there is always at least one vegetarian option on menus these days. I have never, ever made a fuss about it or tried to persuade anyone. I cooked meat for my family for decades and never commented, although I personally found it disgusting and find it physically painful to hear about the meat industry and any barbaric treatment of animals, particularly halal slaughter. I think you are right about the evangelical obsessives – they will latch onto anything and turn it into a stick to beat others.

Arborvitae23
7 months ago

This article chimes with one I read earlier this week.
https://www.ian-leslie.com/p/suicide-as-a-bargaining-tactic?open=false

For a fist full of roubles

These profiles fit many of the vegetarian/vegan people I know, and don’t they let people know about it!
One is so bad that many of his friends won’t go to restaurnants with him because he makes so much fuss.
A young friend of mine was training to be a doctor and became vegetarian. He eventually admitted that he had to go back to being an omnivore as his vegetable diet was insufficient to sustain him, especially during long night shifts. Now he is back to bacon butties and steak, he has completed his training successfully and healthily. He has, however, to keep his opinions to himself as he is a moderately right wing anti woke, anti DEI believer in a pretty closed world of virtue signallers.

MajorMajor
MajorMajor
7 months ago

The weird thing about Greta is that her extremely child-like appearance. It’s like she’s frozen at the age of about 12.

Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

She does everything in her power to maintain that childlike appearance.

Bill Bailey
Bill Bailey
7 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

Well if she is a vegetarian it’s entirely possible that B12 deficiency is present, this can affect growth in children. It’s also possible that cognitive disorders can also result. It’s worth looking up the affect on growth but here’s a bit about cognition.

https://www.b12info.com/mental-health/

JXB
JXB
7 months ago

Meat – protein – contains all the essential amino-acids Humans require for tissue generation and regeneration, particular nerve and brain cells.

And this is most important in childhood and the teen years when the body is growing and developing.

It is why H Sapiens developed above the other primates because when his diet started to contain more meat, his brain grew larger and developed significantly more.

In order to get the same amino-acids from plants requires eating a wide range and copious quantities. It is why “health” food shops have shelves weighed down with vitamin and mineral supplements for vegetarians.

Herbivores spend about 90% of their day eating, the rest of the time passing gas and having bowel movements.

Little wonder then that those who don’t get enough of the essential amino-acids have under-developed brains and odd behaviour and ideas.

As for passing gas and excrement, Greta is obviously upside down.

transmissionofflame
7 months ago
Reply to  JXB

Protein also important as we age past 40, 50, 60 because of sarcopenia (age related muscle loss). As we get older we need to do strength training to mitigate this, and make sure we are getting plenty of protein – actually more than when we are in our 20s and 30s. With the right diet and exercise, which just needs to be consistent and focused, it is quite possible to stave off frailty (which leads to falls and death, robs you of quality of life) for many years.

Hound of Heaven
Hound of Heaven
7 months ago
Reply to  JXB

Like most humans I have canine teeth. That tells me all I need to know. Conceited brat Greta is not the problem, people who pay attention to her are.

AbsolutelyNot
7 months ago

I find the article, along with the study, quite relevant but, as others here have pointed out, it applies to a rather specific category of vegans – the evangelists that can’t stop talking about it. Then there’s those that care more about what they eat, those that do it for religious reasons, etc.

Having said that, while Miliband might actually be a Mini-Greta, I think most politicians preaching us about mad zero are more like Greta’s parents, caving in to abysmal howls and tantrums. And, of course, there’s those, not few, financially incentivised…

Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago

Superb article by Steven Tucker, who really grasps the Manipulative Goblin that is Greta, now 22 years old and still dressing like a child to get sympathy. Well done to him for telling the truth about her incredibly weak parents, whose constant efforts at appeasement only made the Goblin worse. Swedish Greta’s words that he pointed out struck me because of another recent news item from Sweden: “The changes required are enormous and we must all contribute in every part of our everyday life. Especially us in the rich countries, where no nation is doing nearly enough.” [= “White Guilt”] 8-year-old Swedish boy forced to strip naked by Somali teen, claims victim ‘looked like a racist’ “This past May, an 8-year-old boy in Umeå who was out cycling was stopped by a threatening teenager and forced to strip naked. A 16-year-old Somali is now being prosecuted for the act.” “The teenager forced the eight-year-old boy to take off all his clothes so that he was completely naked, and told him to do push-ups. The perpetrator told the boy that if he did not do as he was told, he would call his friends to come see him naked.” “While the… Read more »

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Reply to  Heretic

An eight year old product of the Swedish education system is no match for probably close to feral Somali 16 year old, independent of the ideology prevalent in Sweden..

Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago

Yes, sadly, because the Swedes, like most westerners now, stopped teaching their sons & daughters how to fight back and defend themselves.

JeremyP99
7 months ago

And Vegans are worse…

ImVegan
inamo
inamo
7 months ago

It’s as if the human race is still at an immature/infantile learning stage of coming to grown up/adult terms with 365/24/7 global, affordable and immediate interconnectedness.
Without this global Screeching Narcissist Amplifier, how else would we all ‘be aware of’ or ‘know about’ any of these minority inclinations and preferences (aka ‘sports’)?
And, having come to/been brought to my/our attention, how else would some persistent miscreants and their ‘friend group’ have the means to insist that I/we pass from ‘not knowing’ and ‘not giving a toss about’ to ‘agreeing with’ and (even) ‘supporting’ their minority sport?
I’m not expecting to live long enough to see it but, eventually human awareness, intelligence and innovation will prevail. Sadly, this certainly won’t happen soon and definitely not on the Uniparty’s or apparatchik Tt Keir’s ‘watch.’

Heretic
Heretic
7 months ago
Reply to  inamo

“Global Screeching Narcissist Amplifier”— love it! 🙂

Just as the Eskimos have a hundred different ways to describe snow, because of its importance in their culture, the British have evolved hundreds of different ways to insult someone very creatively, using the marvellous nuances of the English language. 🙂

ELH
ELH
7 months ago
Rusty123
Rusty123
7 months ago

Spoilt little brat more like who needs a good bit of discipline, for all her “enviromental” tantrums, manages to get all over the world, as for her “vegan” outrage, she wants to eat lentils fine, we want to eat meat, her opinion matters no more than anyone else’s, blame the parents solely for the pathetic little bitch

Tim
Tim
7 months ago

Everyone has their own reasons for their lifestyle choices. I gave up meat at age 30 after helping my father-in-law to slaughter and butcher some pigs. It was a traumatic experience. For me it is a personal lifestyle choice. I don’t try to influence friends and family.

In my experience, some vegetarians can be their own worst enemy, by being a collective pain in the arse with their moralising and virtue signalling.

Modern-day veganism, I think, is a fad. It’s part of the collection of attitudes that nice, right thinking people are expected to have.

kev
kev
7 months ago

Humans as Omnivores by nature, so why was that not an option?

Personally, I would describe myself as maybe 75% Carnivore, I’m happy to eat fruit and veg, but not as a meal on their own, much to the annoyance and frustration of my wife, who’s also an Omnivore, but probably 40-50% Vegetarian.

My typical breakfast would be cereal or toast/crumpet or similar, so not every meal has to include meat, but I do love a good Full English!

Miss Haversham
Miss Haversham
7 months ago

No matter how irritating Greta’s sermonising and temper tantrums may be they come from a very real place.
She is clearly terrified that the end of the world is nigh unless we all become vegan, only use public transport, stop having children, stop flying, stop eating imported food etc.
Ultimately she wants us to just stop burning fossil fuels.
But this would be a disaster plain and simple.
We can’t just go back to the dark ages – literally.
Her generation have been terrified into believing that planet Earth will be destroyed very soon unless we stop living our modern, convenient, comfortable lives.
Who is responsible for misinforming them to the point where they are scared out of their wits?
Those fear mongers are the real villains.
Greta and her like are their victims and useful idiots.