The Permitted Racism

378 people were murdered at the Nova music festival in southern Israel on October 7th: 378 young people who just wanted to dance, let loose and party, as young people all over the world do at music festivals. They were murdered by Hamas, in cold blood and in a murderous frenzy, filmed by Hamas themselves as they did it. Some were raped, others tortured, others still kidnapped and taken as hostages back to Gaza where some still suffer unimaginable atrocities in their underground dungeons.

Today, tens of thousands of their festival-going counterparts at Glastonbury, led from the stage by Bob Vylan, chanted “Death, death to the IDF”. They, too, were just young people at a music festival, and the ease with which they went along with a call for Israelis to be killed reveals a deep sickness at the heart of our culture.

Something broke at Glastonbury today. I can’t remember any other single occasion when a crowd of that size chanted for anyone to be killed. It’s the kind of mass hatred that belongs at a Blood & Honour neo-Nazi gig, not at Britain’s biggest music festival, broadcast live on the BBC. But it happened, and it lays bare the sheer permissibility of hating Israelis even to the point of wishing them dead. This is the racism that is not just allowed but actively celebrated in progressive circles.

This is a music industry that did virtually nothing in response to the Nova festival massacre. That was the worst terror attack on a concert in living memory, far eclipsing the numbers killed in similar horrors: the ninety victims at the Bataclan Theatre in Paris in November 2015, the sixty people shot dead at a music festival in Las Vegas in 2017, and the twenty-two murdered in the bombing of an Ariana Grande concert at the Manchester Arena in 2017. But whereas stars from around the world came together for a charity concert with Ariana Grande to support the victims of that atrocity, instead, when it comes to Israelis, we get Kneecap leading their fans in a chant of “Up Hamas” – the very people who slaughtered all those young festivalgoers on October 7th.

Everyone knows that, despite all the talk of free speech, if Kneecap had led their fans in chants of “up Combat 18” at their gigs and waved the flag of National Action – a banned neo-Nazi terrorist group – they would not be playing at Glastonbury and their set would not be broadcast on the BBC. But because Kneecap chose to celebrate Hamas and Hizbollah rather than neo-Nazi terrorists, they get the backing of Paul Weller, Massive Attack, Fontaines DC, and dozens of other luminaries of the music industry. Hizbollah, let’s not forget, is a thoroughly antisemitic, murderous organisation. They killed 85 people in blowing up the AMIA Jewish community centre in Buenos Aires in 1994, and have left a bloody trail of anti-Jewish terrorism around the world ever since. They invented the antisemitic lie that 4,000 Israelis (or Jews, they tend not to make a distinction) didn’t turn up to work in the World Trade Centre on 9/11, because those attacks were supposedly a Jewish plot. But in the fashionable, progressive music industry, supporting Hizbollah does not make you a racist. It makes you a free speech hero.

Meanwhile, Oi Va Voi, a band of Jewish heritage that plays Jewish and Israeli-themed music, has had their gigs cancelled, not for anything they have said or done, but simply because they have an Israeli singer, and these supposed champions of free speech in the music industry are silent. The double standards are so stark it reeks of prejudice.

Is it antisemitic to chant “Death, death to the IDF”? Or is it ‘only’ anti-Israeli? When you are calling for people to be killed, such semantics tend to feel rather irrelevant. In 2004 Sacha Baron Cohen showed how easy it is to get a music crowd to sing along with a call for Jews to be killed, but Borat’s ‘Throw the Jew Down the Well’ was satire. Bob Vylan’s equivalent was chillingly sinister.

Still, it leaves us with the clarifying virtue of knowing where we stand. Now we know that it’s OK to call for Israelis to be killed, and a Glastonbury crowd will chant along. The festival is inclusive, we are told by its owners, and open to all: even to those who want to see the mass murder of our fellow Jews in Israel. And despite all the warnings and previous complaints about the BBC’s inadequacies in this area, despite the obvious and predictable controversy surrounding Kneecap, and despite the fact that we are living through a time of such heightened extremism and antisemitism, our national broadcaster was so ignorant or complacent or complicit that they managed to broadcast “Death, death to the IDF” to the nation. Incitement to violence via the licence fee – just when you thought a new low was impossible, they found a way.

If anyone is still wondering why so many Jews are asking what has happened to this country: this is why. Whether it meets an academic, technical definition of antisemitism is beside the point. Murderous hatred is alive in our society, and it is directed at people like us. If that doesn’t bother you, if it doesn’t ring every alarm bell in your anti-racist consciousness, then you aren’t the anti-racist you think you are. You’re just an antisemitic fellow traveller with a Glastonbury wristband.

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MajorMajor
MajorMajor
9 months ago

The political left made massive progress last week:
Abortion up to birth,
State assisted eugenics,
Death chants as entertainment.

Once you understand that the woke left is a nihilistic suicidal death cult, a lot more makes sense, including their love and sympathy for the “religion of peace”.
Keep this in mind when you see the future developments. Once you see it, you can’t unsee it any more.

Bill Bailey
Bill Bailey
9 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

Socialism, or should I say Communism was created for the sole purpose of suppressing the working classes.
All advances made since the Industrial Revolution is due to entrepreneurs and the free flow of capital.

marebobowl
marebobowl
9 months ago
Reply to  Bill Bailey

The Uk is now a socialist/communist/police state. Nobody seems to care.

marebobowl
marebobowl
9 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

Will people wake up? No.

varmint
9 months ago

These kind of people using pop concerts to spout their disgusting leftist garbage should be arrested and put in cells next to Lucy Connolly.

NickR
9 months ago
Reply to  varmint

You have a point, but the wrong point.
Bob Vylan, Tim Davie, Kneecap, only get put in prison next to Lucy Connolly if it was right to put Lucy Connolly in prison.
It wasn’t, I rather doubt a jury would have imprisoned her.
The point is, once you start imprisoning people for what they say, or write, or think, rather than what they do, where do you stop?
Do we imprison all the audience? The BBC cameramen?
This is all getting out of hand, in part because Starmer & Co have lost sight of what it is they’re trying to achieve, rather they’re reacting blindly to events.

Solentviews
Solentviews
9 months ago
Reply to  NickR

Not the cameraman, but yes to the executive producer or whoever had the final say that it could go out live.

robnicholson
robnicholson
9 months ago
Reply to  Solentviews

They should have taken it down as soon as it crossed a clear line.

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  robnicholson

Whose line is that? Yours?

Lots of people during “covid” thought that questioning lockdowns and “covid vaccines” crossed a “clear line”.

But I am realising that almost nobody believes in freedom of speech, not even the BTL commenters on a site hosted by the founder of the Free Speech Union.

robnicholson
robnicholson
9 months ago

Why would it be my line? I have no control over BBC broadcasting standards?

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  robnicholson

The same code that allows Ofcom to hound GB News, make them sack Mark Steyn, and ensured that no “covid disinformation” was allowed during the “pandemic”. Hope you enjoy a media world governed by standards defined by powerful people who I am sure have your best interests at heart.

marebobowl
marebobowl
9 months ago
Reply to  robnicholson

Just like the bbc ignored the thousands protesting in London this last weekend.

marebobowl
marebobowl
9 months ago

I agree 109%

marebobowl
marebobowl
9 months ago
Reply to  robnicholson

Why? It is free speech.

robnicholson
robnicholson
9 months ago
Reply to  marebobowl

Free speech doesn’t mean you can say whatever you want, wherever you want. Otherwise media guidelines wouldn’t need to exist. You’re still free to say what you like elsewhere, e.g. on their albums.

marebobowl
marebobowl
9 months ago
Reply to  Solentviews

Free speech folks. Do not lose it.

marebobowl
marebobowl
9 months ago
Reply to  NickR

Britain is sliding very rapidly into a cess pit. Despite all the good men and women, working to raise a family, living honest lives, there is a very corrupt group, including those who govern, destroying your country, one day at a time.

RW
RW
9 months ago
Reply to  varmint

Connolly shouldn’t be in a cell. And neither should other people for making political statements in public. There are always two sides to every story and people should be free to voice

  1. Their support for Israel.
  2. Their disapproval of it.
  3. (extremely important) Their complete indifference towards the whole affair.

Freedom of speech and opinion necessarily includes the freedom to be of completely wrong-headed opinions even on topics where wrong-headedness can be clearly established. And the mess in the middle east is certainly not among them.

mrbu
mrbu
9 months ago
Reply to  RW

My belief is that leading a crowd in death chants crosses the line of acceptability.

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  mrbu

You are free to switch off your tv or change the channel, as are others.

MajorMajor
MajorMajor
9 months ago

I’m not confident you would dismiss these concerns with the same flippant remark if they were chanting for your death.

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

Flippant? My remark was and is accurate. As to how I would feel – who can honestly say? As a “covid denier” I was certainly in a group that was regularly vilified during “covid”, though I suppose there were probably not many calls for my death.

If there are people who truly believe the kind of stuff that was being chanted, or at least are prepared to chant along to make themselves feel better, I think it’s better that the more people know about it the better. Otherwise how else can we form a picture of what’s going on in the world?

RW
RW
9 months ago
Reply to  MajorMajor

As tof is – as far as I know – not a combattant in a military conflict in the middle east, that’s not quite comparable. The IDF – Israeli Defence Force – is a military organisation and not a person.

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  RW

Not a combatant

My gut feel has always been fairly pro Israel as it happens, though the issue seems rather complex to me and I wish I understood more

robnicholson
robnicholson
9 months ago

Too right… ask AI about the situation and even it comes back with “One side believes this but the other side believes this, it’s a matter of perspective”. I’ve had to read/watch several length documentaries on the issue and I’m still generally confused.

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  robnicholson

It’s obviously incredibly sad to see people on both side dying needlessly. The settlement of that land in recent times seems questionable to me, but then how far do we want to go back? Israel does seem brutal in its response sometimes, but then they are isolated and may feel existentially threatened. I am not keen on Islam expanding its power globally. Israel does seem like an apartheid state but then if I were Israeli I might want it to be. Also if I were Israeli born since the modern state was founded, I would feel like people were trying to take my land. Jews and Israelis have suffered, but criticism of their actions seems more or less off limits, unlike criticism of others. Sometimes it is anti-semitism probably, sometimes not. The “debate” quickly becomes vitriolic.

RW
RW
9 months ago
Reply to  mrbu

Considering the context, this amounts to the belief that people must either support the cause of the present government of Israel or remain silent on the topic (and even this is only grudgingly granted). You’re entitled to be an avid supporter of Israel. But other people are as entitled to any other opinion. There should be no secular blasphemy laws, either. Talk is just talk. At least, that’s my opinion.

mrbu
mrbu
9 months ago
Reply to  RW

Considering the context, this amounts to the belief that people must either support the cause of the present government of Israel or remain silent on the topic…

Where did I say that people opposed to the actions and policies of the Israeli government should remain silent? However, in UK law, as it currently stands, there is provision against incitement to hatred and violence, and that is the line that I believe was crossed on Saturday. We shall see whether what happened is deemed worthy of criminal investigation.

RW
RW
9 months ago
Reply to  mrbu

The idea that Glastonbury festival goers could target the Israelian (Israeli?) military with acts of violence is rather bizarre, not the least because Glastonbury is nowhere near the theatre of operations.

Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
9 months ago
Reply to  RW

I agree but it means that Lucy Connolly’s tweet was worse because people were slightly more likely to have done what she suggested.

robnicholson
robnicholson
9 months ago
Reply to  mrbu

In my books, the minute something gets to the emotional level of mass chanting, any semblance of credibility goes out the window. It’s gone from a reasoned argument/debate to the angry villagers storming the castle.

marebobowl
marebobowl
9 months ago
Reply to  varmint

You did not need to attend, you did not need to watch. Free speech once gone folks will be your demise. Good luck Uk.

Cargocultist
Cargocultist
9 months ago

This and other shocking footage shows that Glastonbury is now stuffed to the brim with antisemites and their apologists and fellow-travellers. It is no surprise that the BBC, which is now also deeply antisemitic, is so keen to provide wall-to-wall coverage.
It should be renamed what it now is: the Glastonberg Hate Rally.
Anyone who attends this is knowingly paying for and supporting an event which deliberately books antisemitic acts and speakers, and is devoted to providing a huge platform for regular displays of virulent antisemitism. They should be ashamed of themselves.

RW
RW
9 months ago
Reply to  Cargocultist

The antisemites used to be a loose group of people in Germany and Austria from the 19th until about the middle of the 20th century who were opposed to the so-called Jewish emancipation, the granting of full citizen rights to Jews, which had happened in the course of rhe Napoleonic wars, principally, to include Jews in military conscription.

The conflict between Jews and Arabs started after this time (in earnest towards the end of the 1940s) and is of a completely different nature: Both Muslims and Jews claim Jerusalem as holy city that’s central to their faith. And both Jews and Palestinians of Arabic descent maintain that the former Ottoman province which includes Jerusalem is their ancestral homeland.

RW
RW
9 months ago
Reply to  RW

Some more background information: The term semites refers to speakers of so-called semitic languges, named after Noah’s mythological son Sem. These include both Hebrew and Arabic (and a few others). This implies that Jews accusing Arabs of anti-semitism is equivalent to semites accusing other semites of anti-semitism. That’s a really nice demonstration of the content-free keywords nature of such accusations.

JohnK
9 months ago
Reply to  RW

An insight into linguistic accuracy is useful. Unfortunately a common mistake is to use the term anti-semite against any criticism of the activities of the Israel government, or it’s agents, to the extent that the critic is allegedly opposed to Jews across the board. However, it’s quite likely that there are quite a few Israeli citizens, or Jewish people who reside elsewhere, that are critical about the current administration in Israel.

Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
9 months ago
Reply to  RW

Rubbish. The hatred Muslims have for Jews started almost 1,400 years ago when some Jews cottoned onto the fact that Muhammed was a charlatan and chose not to follow him. http://www.jewishwebsite.com/featured/list-of-arab-attacks-against-the-jewish-population/94710
What possible motivation could there be for all the massacres that took place before the creation of Israel other than the beliefs of the perpetrators?
Strip away the “you stole our land” claims and it’s obvious that attacks against Israel are merely a continuation of centuries long hatred.
Loads of first nations and other indigenous people have had their land stolen, they don’t go on murderous rampages against people of the same ethnicity as those who took their land.

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

Yes but the “indigenous” or “First Nations” people are generally not in a position to fight back much, having been generally thoroughly outnumbered and/or outgunned. Whereas surely Muslims in the Middle East are in a majority?

Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
9 months ago

Hamas must have known that October 7 wouldn’t help their cause but they still did it out of pure hate. First nations people are a very small minority but they could still kill white people out of pure hate knowing it won’t help their cause.

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

Sure, but Hamas have rich, powerful friends in other countries. There’s nobody funding American Indians etc, and there wasn’t back in the day either as far as I know.

Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
9 months ago

No one is funding any indigenous people so obviously they could never launch attacks on the scale of Hamas, Hezbollah but if they had the same level of hate for whites that these groups have for Jews they could carry out plenty of “lone wolf” attacks, especially in the US where almost everyone can buy semi automatic guns.

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

Their “stolen land” was centuries ago, “Palestine” was “stolen” in living memory

Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
9 months ago

“Palestine” wasn’t “stolen” by anyone these people are targeting and none of them were alive when it was “stolen”. Are you saying it’s OK to hold a murderous hatred for a certain amount of time?

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

I put “stolen” in inverted commas deliberately. I don’t have a firm opinion one way or the other and regret the suffering on both sides. Hamas et al think it was stolen, or pretend to think so.

Smudger
9 months ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121. “Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech. “We must do everything to insure they (the Palestinians) never do return.”… Read more »

RW
RW
9 months ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

It should be possible to put a similar list for Muslims going after Christians together, as many adherents of Islam are not exactly the most tolerant bunch. Or, for that matter, Christian going after Jews as the Christian churches used to be very anti-Jewish for most of their existence. But nevertheless, these were all exceptional situations in a long history of generally peaceful coexistence and the present, rather more serious spat, is of more recent origin.

Regardless of that, the strained relations between Muslims, especially, Arab muslims, and Jews, especially those Jews living in Israel, have exactly zero relation to the historical phenomenon knowns as anti-semitism. That’s just a sleight of hand by the government of Israel.

Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
9 months ago
Reply to  RW

I doubt you’ve looked at the list, they ocurred in many centuries and many countries so exceptional isn’t the right term. Periods of peaceful coexistence seem to be the exception.
My point was that Hamas, Hezbollah etc. must realise that attacking Israel is going to provoke a fully justified response and is therefore counter productive. How exactly did killing over 1,000 people in a single day help bring about a 1 or 2 state solution? This is why any sensible person will realise it was motivated by pure hatred of Jews.

Mogwai
9 months ago
Reply to  Cargocultist

Agreed. And it’s patently obvious to those of us who are not morally bankrupt and wish to live in a civilized society with basic standards of decency and respect towards others that ‘Bob the Nob’ most certainly over-stepped the mark and cannot hide behind a defense of ”freedom of speech’. I agree with retired police officer, Norman Brennan;

”Folks I think that the Disgusting behaviour/words/conduct/incitement of an Act at Glastonbury today Epitomises that people push the perimeters so far & get away with it that no one thinks that there are any limits anymore & if @ASPolice
& @CPSUK
don’t act then it’s a Green Light to let’s all just say & do what we like.
It should only take minutes to decide whether it was just offensive or criminal incitement ie we don’t need months of Investigations”

https://x.com/NormanBrennan/status/1939089900508438826

Mogwai
9 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Serves the hateful tosser right. It’s called ‘consequences’;

”The U.S State Department is moving to revoke Bobby Vylan’s visas ahead of his U.S. tour.

“ The U.S. will not issue visas to foreigners who support terrorists “

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14859293/US-cancel-British-rap-duo-Bob-Vylan-visa-IDF.html

Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
9 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Was it criminal incitement i.e. did these vile clowns actually expect people to do what they were calling for or was it just pointless virtue signalling?
The chants were disgusting and offensive but for people who believe in free speech they’re perhaps a challenge to test how far that belief goes. For free speech to mean anything it has to include the freedom to be offensive should there be limits to how offensive and if so who decides what those limits are?

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

If you don’t have free speech then who decides will be whoever has the most power.

Mogwai
9 months ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

There is no freedom of speech in reality, only on paper. That much should be perfectly apparent by now as evidence to support this abounds. The question people should be asking is: what kind of society do I want ( and my kids to grow up ) to live in? Is it the kind where ‘cocks in frocks’ can congregate in public ( god forbid, topless! ) to demand everyone acknowledge them as ‘women’ and to punch any female in the face that disagrees? Is it the kind where mass gatherings of traitorous lunatics pledge their love and support for terrorism and shout their hatred of the country they’re in and wish death to all Jews? All the while, impressionable kids are witnessing this and normalising it due to regular exposure, just as they did with the face nappies during the Scamdemic. I don’t want to live in a society where moral degeneration has become the norm. People who are blasé about others spewing their vitriol and hate, because ‘free speech’, are part of the problem. You don’t get to moan about how far society has fallen and how fragmented and divided it’s become, whilst at the same time defend… Read more »

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

The kind of society I want is one that leaves me and my family alone to pursue our lives and spend our money and educate our children as we choose, as long as we don’t break any reasonable laws (the kind of laws that almost everyone has agreed on since time immemorial, like not stealing, assaulting or killing people). Ideally this would be happening in an England largely full of English people, but that ship has sailed. While I have my own ideas and standards on how I feel I should behave towards others and handle my own life, I really don’t feel qualified to be saying much more about what kind I society I would like to see.

JDee
JDee
9 months ago

Would you be happy about people being free to continuously incite violence against your own aspirations? Note freedom of speech becomes self contradictory if it is so called absolute, which you seem to argue for. It’s more subtle than that as it implies reciprocity, which means violence and the incitement to violence is easily accepted as out of court because it definitely crosses the not being compatible with reciprocity line

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  JDee

I think we are better off sticking to punishing actions, not words.

The US law works well enough I think – I am not completely convinced that the exception to free speech carved out by the Supreme Court Imminent lawless action – Wikipedia is right or needed but their freedom of speech in the US is close to absolute and they seem no worse off than we are – better in fact.

Who decides? At the moment, the Left decide. Next election maybe the Right will decide. Doesn’t seem that helpful to me.

Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
9 months ago

When it comes to incitement to violence the test could be intent. Burning the Koran led to violence, if I was the judge in that case one of my main reasons for acquitting the guy who did it would be that it’s obvious that he didn’t want/intend there to be a violent response. Did the muppets at Glastonbury actually want their words to lead to violence or was it just self publicity/virtue signalling? Another test could be the chance of words actually leading to violence. No one at a music festival is going to travel 3,000 miles in order to try and kill a soldier. If someone on stage had said “If you see any Jews here kick the shit out of them” a few idiots might have done what they said so these words would have been much worse than what was said. Unfortunately this would mean that Lucy Connolly’s tweet was worse than anything said at the weekend because it’s very slightly more likely someone would have read it and did what she said.

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

Intent, sure, but I believe I have good reason not to trust judges to determine that.

As for whether speech caused a given action, I think that’s tricky.

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

Some good points here

Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
9 months ago
Reply to  JDee

I’m not sure how any absolute position can be self contradictory.

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

I guess the freedom to say absolutely anything might infringe the right of someone not to be subjected to speech designed to make their life a
misery. Rights can’t really be absolute unless you just believe in the survival of the fittest – I don’t have the right to stab you without expecting some sanction.

Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
9 months ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Totally agree that freedom of speech only exists on paper, I was talking about what sort of society people want to see with regards to free speech. The muppets at Glastonbury were spewing hate but other muppets pretty much accuse people like J K Rowling of spewing hate. Does the definition of hate speech come down to how many people think something is hate speech? Unfortunately, given the comments and likes/dislikes I see on MSN, I’m not convinced that a majority of people in this country would class what was said at Glastonbury as hate speech that should be prosecuted.

DiscoveredJoys
DiscoveredJoys
9 months ago

What can we do?

Perhaps we should defund the BBC. It won’t stop antisemitism – but is something we can *do* to remove the blessing of the Establishment from such events.

It would also send a message to other media outfits that uncritically jump on the anti-Israel bandwagon.

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  DiscoveredJoys

Well I can “send a message to other media outfits” by not watching them – or I can watch them to learn what some people think about some things, bearing in mind that other views are available.

As for the BBC, it simply should not exist in its current form, regardless of what it is broadcasting. If the state has to have a media channel, it ought to be for broadcasting proceedings in Parliament (with no commentary) and little else.

I don’t think the state has any business regulating media content either. Every TV and radio I’ve ever seen has an “off” or “change channel” switch. Perhaps something to stop porn being shown on poster advertising which is hard to look away from, that’s about it.

BS Whitworth
BS Whitworth
9 months ago

Pascal Robinson-Foster. Let’s get his name right.

mrbu
mrbu
9 months ago

These left-leaning, anti-Semitic, “progressive” (the author’s word, not mine) music industry figures, and their counterparts in other walks of life, have clearly decided that Israel’s history starts on 8th October 2023. Once you’ve written off everything that happened before that date, throughout the centuries of recorded human history, then this vile behaviour makes sense.

Mogwai
9 months ago
Reply to  mrbu

I know there’s differing opinions on here but mine align with David Atherton here. I will always oppose terrorism and supporters thereof, and this is very much a cut and dried issue, as far as I can see. An excerpt; ”I’m sure most of us were disgusted at the anti-Semitism on display at Glastonbury & also elsewhere on the streets of Britain. It is plainly wrong, if not evil. Did you know the first reference to Israel is from the Bronze Age in c1207 BC, from an Egyptian inscription, which mentions a group called “Israel” in Canaan, possibly a tribal or nomadic entity. What we know as the Torah, which is the first five books of the Old Testament is first recorded during the Babylonian Exile 586–539 BC. In the Quran, Israel or the children of Israel is mentioned fifty-eight times. My first brush with Palestinians was a week before my 12th birthday on 5th September 1972. I rushed downstairs to watch the Munich Olympics on the TV. I expected to listen to Ron Pickering saying things like 400m/800m runner Alberto “Juantorena down the back straight, opening his legs & showing his class,” or David Coleman spotting a plucky Brit… Read more »

GlassHalfFull
9 months ago

In WW2 Europe was occupied by the Nazis for 4 years.
I’m sure in the UK there would have been chants of “Death, death to the Wehrmacht”.
Palestine has been occupied by “foreign” forces for 77 years.
Many people in the UK are frustrated at governments around the world supporting the Israeli genocidal maniacs and are venting their disgust at the horrors they are seeing with their own eyes on their screens.

JDee
JDee
9 months ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/hamas-covenant-full-text Here is a link to the original Hamas covenent, which quotes from Islamic Hadith which they clearly believe, if you wish to comment on genocidal intent

GlassHalfFull
9 months ago
Reply to  JDee

That was a written text from 1988 which has been updated to a more conciliatory position.
I’m also not talking about “intent”, I’m talking about the actual killing by the IDF of thousands of innocent women and children.

CGW
CGW
9 months ago

Nobody should have been murdered at the Nova festival. One can question how such a festival can be held close to what many described as a concentration camp or currently as an extermination camp, but there was still no reason for the death of innocent civilians. However, one should also ask how many at the Nova festival were killed by precisely the IDF firing Hellfire missiles from their Apache helicopters, or shelled by their tanks, firing at any neighbouring location where Palestinians (it was not only Hamas) were thought to be hiding, whether with or without hostages. Photographs of piles of burnt-out cars document what a hand-held machine-gun is incapable of. Rape and torture are simply two key words used by the Israeli propaganda machine to incite more hatred – as though that were necessary. But, when it comes to the killing of innocent citizens, surely Israel, or more precisely the IDF, is the absolute master. Quoting Jonathan Cook, The Israeli government … has precisely no concerns about the “glorification of violence” when Israel is doing either the glorifying or the violence. Israel is currently celebrating its “success” in slaughtering and maiming hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in Gaza, including… Read more »

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
9 months ago
Reply to  CGW

And Starmer does this at the behest of The RPTB in the West.
Yes, the same people who gave us net zero, CBDC, lockdowns, none PI’s, mmRNA gene therapies. all costing trillions just to give them more power and control.
Yet for most on here questioning Israel’s genocide is, let’s say, rather unpopular

RichardTechnik
RichardTechnik
9 months ago
Reply to  CGW

I’d suggest you read the various abusive comments you have written and ask yourself whether the arguments advanced have any merit of whether you are simply blinded with hatred of Israel, Jews or whatever that you are suffering from derangement.

CGW
CGW
9 months ago
Reply to  RichardTechnik

I am not aware of having abused anyone and apologize unreservedly if I have done so. If you are referring to my intense disapproval of Israel’s daily massacres of Gazan civilians, then I am afraid I do not apologize. If you unreservedly support Israel’s current actions then perhaps you are blinded with hatred of Palestinians? Or are you referring to something else? If you specifically object to something I have written then please feel free to point it out and contradict me.

JXB
JXB
9 months ago

Culture – which is NOT hair-dos or clothes or diet or ballet or music – evolves and developes in a linguistic group to encompass shared values, morals, manners, outlook, code of behaviour, heretage, laws. Culture determines society and is its government.

It is not inherited, it has to be passed on, taught. Someone said each generation is invaded by Barbarians – its children.

We have failed to teach our children their culture. We have lost control of our society. A vacuum has formed into which will rush every bad idea, depravity, and evil.

We have become an island of strangers, not just because of the immigrant hordes, but strangers to each other. I don’t recognise the modern generations – they are not my people with whom I grew up as a child in the 50s, and as an adult in the 70s/80s.

Those idiots at Glastonbury – who are they, where from?

OxonSceptic44
OxonSceptic44
9 months ago

I’m a paid up member of the Free Speech Union and thoroughly endorse the right of every person to say or write what they think…most of the time. But, in my view, the Glastonbury incident, along with numerous others that have gone before, means there has ceased to be a moral equivalence as between Islamism and other causes citing their right to freedom of expression. I have therefore come to draw the freedom of speech line at anything to do with Islamism and the now quite open and accelerating Islamification of the UK. The fact that we now have 5 MPs, elected solely for their stance on Gaza, by communities voting for them en masse purely because they share a religion is terrifying. That number will go up significantly in 2029, you can be sure – sheer force of demography will see to that. Everybody should read Douglas Murray’s new book, On Democracies and Death Cults. Only then will you get a sense of what we are up against in the UK if the incoming tide of the “religion of peace” is not drastically curbed. It may be too late anyway due to the average size of the family units… Read more »

transmissionofflame
9 months ago
Reply to  OxonSceptic44

And someone else thoroughly endorses the right of every person to say or write what they think…most of the time – but not the same exceptions as you have. Who decides?

JDee
JDee
9 months ago

You apply a common principle of reciprocity towards the other. That is you cannot undermine the common basic rights of someone else, which is the platform on which private freedom stands, through the expression of your own private diversity . This requires a distinction between public basic common rights and private diversity ones. This was previously managed by common sense and common values, now it actually needs thinking through properly, but it is still obvious if you think about it.

Nearenuff
Nearenuff
9 months ago

I’m actually glad the BBC broadcast it because it shows the nation what the supposed caring, peace loving left is actually like. Censoring these opinions does not make them disappear.
Would so many people have known about this if it had been censored?
Best to have it all out in the open so that everyone can see what the left are really like.

Nearenuff
Nearenuff
9 months ago
Reply to  Nearenuff

Next year the BBC probably won’t be broadcasting live, they might have a 1 hour delay so that they can edit out anything too extreme, and splice the footage back together as if it never happened. Anybody who claims that something extreme was said will be called a conspiracy theorist, and the edited footage will be rolled out to disprove their accusations.
This will mean that the left can project a moderate stance to the wider public, in order to gain their support, whilst keeping the extreme views concealed to all but the hardcore lefties who attend the indoctrination camps, sorry, I meant music festivals…

Gezza England
Gezza England
9 months ago
Reply to  Nearenuff

Next year there is no Glastonbury to broadcast so a lot of licence payers money saved.

Gezza England
Gezza England
9 months ago

So good to see Ofcom are going to investigate the BBC and take some time off from persecuting GB News. There has been some other good news in the Donald has immediately revoked the visas for these 2 terrorist-loving scumbags so they will not be touring the US. They have also been dropped by their manager but I am sure some morals-free person will step up and who knows, book them a Middle East tour. The one who spouted the hatred on stage is of Jamaican descent, born here and raised in Ipswich, going by the name of Pascal Robinson-Foster. Given he claims winding people up is the only joy of living here perhaps we should be sending him back to his ancestral home.

RTSC
RTSC
9 months ago

By rights, this disgraceful spectacle should shut down both the BBC and what has become the annual Glastonbury lefty hate-fest.

Jackthegripper
Jackthegripper
9 months ago

What shocked me most was how quickly many in the audience started chanting it too. It proved how easy it is to control the brain-addled, regressive, lefty morons.

Charles Exley
Charles Exley
9 months ago

I am sorry but as a loyal supporter of Israel throughly this conflict I strongly object to your final sentence. I think the double standards versus Lucy Connolly and others is appalling but I don’t think hate speech should be a crime unless it can be proven to incite crime (for which we already have laws). I am in no way antisemitic and I think this sort of mindless moronic chanting speaks volume about the moral bankruptcy of the act and the crowd but it’s a slippery slope to use the law to stop it.

marebobowl
marebobowl
9 months ago

Is there any truth to the rumour those young people’s music festival was moved closer to the border making it easy for them to be attacked?

CGW
CGW
9 months ago
Reply to  marebobowl

I could not find anything referring to a change of location but Wikipedia has a lengthy article under “Nova festival” which states that a “Unity” festival was planned for 5th to 6th October. A request was made as late as 2nd October to “extend the event by 24 hours to enable the Nova festival to take place using the same equipment and infrastructure”. While researching your question, I came across a video (only on Rumble?) under “System Update with Glenn Greenwald”, where the latter chatted to Pink Floyd’s Roger Waters one month after the 7th October (2023) attack. Glenn Greenwald started off by saying he could not remember anything that had made him “sicker or more disgusted than seeing the level of suffering that is taking place in Gaza right now”: most commenters on DS apparently think the opposite, nineteen months on! However, I was surprised by the common-sense comments given by Roger Waters, referring to the Geneva Convention saying that Palestinians were “absolutely legally and morally bound to resist the occupation since 1967”, whereby attacks against civilians are of course a war crime. The Wikipedia article once again draws attention to the fact that the Gaza outbreak (“entry into… Read more »