Another Nail in the EV Coffin

Matthew Lynn’s latest column in Telegraph has flagged up a WhatCar? survey that reveals EVs are the most likely to leave you stranded by the roadside. He summarises the survey’s main findings:

 Exclusive What Car? research shows that electric vehicles (EVs) suffer more breakdowns than diesel, hybrid or petrol models, and that EVs are the least likely to be fixed at the roadside.

What Car? asked 29,967 car owners about their breakdown experiences over the past two years as part of the most recent What Car? Reliability Survey, conducted in association with MotorEasy.

Overall, 11% of survey participants said their car had broken down in the past two years, but the breakdown rate for EV owners was 16.8%, the highest of all fuel types. In contrast, 10.7% of petrol-powered cars needed to be recovered, 14% of hybrids broke down and 15% of diesel vehicles.

Lynn is excoriating in his judgement of EVs:

They will save the planet, they are quieter, they will rebuild local industries, and they even come with attractive tax breaks. Rewind a couple of years, and there were plenty of reasons for buying a shiny new Tesla or Polestar electric vehicle instead of an old-fashioned, high-pollution, petrol or diesel car.

And yet, one by one, all those arguments have been punctured. They won’t help the environment as much as we think, they are mostly made in China, the tax breaks are gone, and now we learn that they are more likely to break down as well.

Along with higher insurance costs, EVs are rapidly being exposed as the expensive choice:

The faults on EV’s were less likely to be something that could be fixed on the side of the road by an emergency repair service, meaning that motorists were less likely to be able to complete their journey, and might have to pay for an expensive towing service as well.

And of course, if something does go wrong it will probably cost more to fix, with surveys suggesting that EVs cost 30% to 50% more to repair than petrol cars, while replacing the tyres if you get a puncture will be pricey as well, with each one, according to one survey, costing £77 more on average than traditional vehicles.

How much longer can the government keep up the pressure to buy an EV?

One by one, all the arguments for owning an EV have been falling apart. It turns out that they cost more to run. The tax breaks are gradually being withdrawn; as of this year, they are no longer exempt from road tax, and from Christmas they will have to start paying the congestion charge in London, and probably very soon in other major cities as well.

On top of all that, they are handing the auto industry to China, destroying one of Europe’s major industries, and given the environmental impact of the manufacturing process, and all the minerals that go into them, they might not even be better for the environment either.

Worth reading in full.

As far as this Sceptics correspondent is concerned, EVs wouldn’t have any problem on the market if they were a) more reliable, b) better quality, c) cheaper in every way to run and d) had longer ranges than petrol and diesel cars. Since they fall down on every measure, the only thing left is the dubious moral argument and anyone who thinks that can ever function as the primary determining and decisive factor in a commercial context must be insane. Which is why of course the whole farce has been dependent on, as Lynn says, “state-planning at its very worst. It set arbitrary targets, lavished subsidies and tax breaks on an industry, only to withdraw them when they became too expensive.”

Your Sceptics correspondent would also like to report that a retired friend of his with a very good pension has fallen for the EV trap. Deciding her 13 year-old ICE car was “too old to be trusted” she has not only gone out and bought an EV but also an £1,100 home charger connection. She intends only to use the car for local journeys, say for 2,000 miles per annum (an absolute maximum). £1,100 for the charger alone is equivalent to the cost of 182 gallons of petrol. Set against, say, her old 40 mpg it will take her nearly four years alone to recover the cost of the home charger connection, to say nothing of the cost of the electricity and the cost and depreciation of her new EV. If she uses the new car for less than that, it’ll take even longer.

No doubt, the happy buyer of her ICE car can look forward to 15 years or more of happy and cheap (and reliable!) motoring, with most of the depreciation taken care of.

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NeilofWatford
9 months ago

‘handing the auto industry to China, destroying one of Europe’s major industries …’
Wasn’t that the whole point?
Job done.

Jay Willis
9 months ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

Indeed. Net Zero, Trans bollo, endless European wars, unlimited migration, covid… you could be easily convinced that’s it’s all orchestrated by China, playing the long game.

Purpleone
9 months ago
Reply to  Jay Willis

Strangely impressive I think, the way China play the long game… everyone is happy to offshore all their ‘work’ to them

Norfolk-Sceptic
Norfolk-Sceptic
9 months ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

China has to import most of her oil/gas, so EVs powered by coal-fired power stations are quite a good solution – for China, and if the West can be persuaded to buy them (to save the planet 🙂 ) so much the better – yet again, for China!

mrbu
mrbu
9 months ago

I slightly disagree with Sallust. EV’s don’t necessarily need to outperform ICE cars in the four areas cited. If they simply performed equally well, then they’d have more of a chance.

Solentviews
Solentviews
9 months ago
Reply to  mrbu

‘Performing well’ would surely include filling it up in less than 5 minutes. Unfortunately, electricity can’t do that on mass because of the HUGE power drain on the grid. Possibly 1MW per car!!!

Better to face the fact that while an EV for around town might make sense, for anything else, they are a complete con.

Gezza England
Gezza England
9 months ago
Reply to  Solentviews

Well we know that the grid will never be able to supply the power if all cars are battery powered. And then just think of how much area charging stations will need to take up compared to petrol stations given how slow a charge is.

JXB
JXB
9 months ago
Reply to  Solentviews

Around town they only make sense until there are enough of them to overload the local, low voltage supply at which point there will be the need to ration charging by perhaps rotating when charging points have power, and restricting fast-charging.

Few people in cities have off-street parking to allow overnight charging and in any case the same problem applies, too many people trying to draw too much current at the same time will overload local supply network.

People report that often at charging stations, some of the chargers are not working. I suspect this is because the power supply is inadequate and once a certain number of points are being used, safety mechanisms shut off others. Just a hunch.

Dinger64
9 months ago
Reply to  mrbu

Fair enough, cut all EV subsidies and company tax breaks and let’s see how they perform on a level playing field!
Performance is the whole gamut not just how they move

JXB
JXB
9 months ago
Reply to  mrbu

Purchase price is a significant factor in purchase decision. Performing equally as well for 1.5x or 2x the price is unlikely to attract buyers.

mrbu
mrbu
9 months ago
Reply to  JXB

And that is the crux of the matter. Even if an EV can compete with an ICE in terms of range, performance and cost per mile, it’s only ever going to be a choice for people with money to burn and endless time to spare while it recharges. I cannot see EVs ever becoming a practical and affordable option for the majority of the population. Government subsidies. virtue-signalling and green hype have got the majority of EVs on our roads, but I believe we’ll soon reach a plateau.

Purpleone
9 months ago

Any technology that requires subsidies, should automatically be suspected… if it’s a good and effective solution it’ll sell, if it’s not, it won’t… let the market decide

mrbu
mrbu
9 months ago
Reply to  Purpleone

Free individual choice is so…. last century.

Marcus Aurelius knew
9 months ago
Reply to  mrbu

Free thinking individuals are Literally Hitler.

soundofreason
soundofreason
9 months ago

So EVs are less reliable than ICE cars and hybrids? I find that surprising as the hybrid tech has both ICE and electric tech in the same vehicle… or I would find it surprising if it were not for the other major factor affecting reliability. Cheap Chinese manufacturing.

Freddy Boy
9 months ago

EV,s are bad for the planet , it takes only a few minutes to confirm this for anyone with even the most basic education ! Trouble is most people with said education are too ignorant /dumb to check the details !

Freddy Boy
9 months ago

Also today prompted by Delingpoles latest podcast I’ve made an assumption ! Brexit could have been just to test the Country’s position & having shown our hand we have been royally turned over by all concerned including Farage & Reform 😵‍💫

Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
9 months ago

It has been said a thousand different ways but you can’t tell anyone anything. They have to learn it the hard way. You hope that it will be etched into their memory forver but it isn’t. What can you say, we are surrounded by imbecility and have no idea of our own imbecility. In survival times you have to adopt a harder approach to the inadequate because if you don’t then everyone dies. They drag the wise down with them if you are not careful.

Mccgregor
Mccgregor
9 months ago

I’m losing faith in Daily Skeptic and EV Technology – your choice of articles are abysmal!
It is very hard to imagine why anybody sensible would bother following the advice of a paywalled article that doesn’t mention a single fact. It is all a bunch of smears and poorly researched nonsense thrown into the the pot of eco nonsense seasoned with some relevant facts about China’s malevalent capture of so many of the West’s industry. The damage has been done to the car industries by the lazy, arrogant, anti-competitive car industry! You will see in the next few weeks how they ALL got it wrong and have been scrambling to delay their inevitable bankruptcy…

ELH
ELH
9 months ago
Reply to  Mccgregor

Have you looked at the fire risk posed by lithium battery technology? Have you considered how these machines are to be recycled once they stop working or have been written off by the insurance companies as too costly to repair after an accident or a collision?

Very good choice of article in my opinion.

Jimbo G
Jimbo G
9 months ago

“as Lynn says, “state-planning at its very worst. It set arbitrary targets, lavished subsidies and tax breaks on an industry, only to withdraw them when they became too expensive.””
i know it is implied in the above quote but every critical reference like this must include a direct reference to the coercion applied to auto makers going forward!

Ian o
Ian o
9 months ago

After driving an electric car for 12 years.
not had any of what you describe.
i have done 100’s of thousands of miles never broken down.
charge at home which is cheap.

johnn635
johnn635
9 months ago
Reply to  Ian o

Would like to know what car?

JXB
JXB
9 months ago
Reply to  Ian o

What is it, golf cart or milk float?

Twm Morgan
Twm Morgan
9 months ago

Least reliable? Less effective? Doesn’t reduce pollution or ´Save’ the planet?
Cue for the government to squander tax payers’ cash on setting up another 100, 000 recharging points!
Whooppee!

ELH
ELH
9 months ago

BRAND NEW ELECTRIC VANS AT MASSIVE MASSIVE DISCOUNTS!! THEY ARE GIVING THEM AWAY!! This is another part of the picture and most informative.

JXB
JXB
9 months ago

“On top of all that, they are handing the auto industry to China..’”

If nobody – more or less – is buying BEVs – what exactly is being “handed” to China?

And various report China’s BEV output far exceeds consumption within its own borders, with acres of land covered with unsold cars, rotting.

Less government
9 months ago

Nice summary for the woke wet wipes. Looking forward to a really hard winter and the inevitable blackouts. Wrap up well tontos.