The Small Boats Crisis Isn’t So Simple

In a recent tweet extolling his supposed success in tackling illegal migration, Sir Keir Starmer wrote, “You have every right to be angry about small boat crossings. I’m angry too. We are ramping up our efforts to smash the people smuggling gangs at source.” Unsurprisingly, this incredibly insincere and misleading statement was bombarded with negative comments.

They were mostly from Right-wingers angry about mass migration, though a significant minority were from Left-wingers angry at Starmer’s cynical attempt to appease the Right-wing. (Starmer finds himself in a pickle: much of his electoral base is pro-migration, but the voters he needs to win over generally aren’t.)

Anyway, the single most popular comment on Starmer’s tweet, as judged by the number of likes, was from the erstwhile Reform MP Rupert Lowe, who wrote, “The answer is really not complicated, Prime Minister. DEPORT THEM.”

Now, I share Lowe’s frustration at the scale of illegal migration into Britain and the way it has been handled by the last two governments (such as by housing rejected asylum seekers in hotels at taxpayer expense). I’m certainly not in the pro-migration camp. However, he’s wrong that “the answer is really not complicated”.

Asylum seekers who arrive in small boats cannot just be deported because the UK is legally obligated to consider their asylum applications. The previous Conservative government tried to get around this with the Illegal Migration Act, under which applications from individuals who passed through safe countries before arriving in the UK would be “identified for consideration of inadmissibility” (i.e., would not be considered).

However, this did not solve the problem. Why? An asylum seeker who arrives in the UK illegally can only be deported if there is a country willing to take them — and most countries simply refuse. As a report for the House of Commons Library notes, “Aside from Rwanda, no third country has agreed to accept asylum seekers from the UK in large numbers”.

In fact, out of almost 70,000 people whose applications were “identified for consideration of inadmissibility” as of November 2023, only 23 had been removed from the UK — less than 0.04%. This is not primarily because activist judges stopped their deportations or they appealed under the European Court of Human Rights. It is because no country was willing to take them.

Where does Lowe propose to deport all the illegal migrants — the Moon? The simple fact is that once someone arrives in the UK, it is very difficult to get rid of them if they don’t want to leave. Of course, some asylum seekers do leave voluntarily. But most stay. After all, they may face genuine persecution in their country of origin, they may have friends or family in the country already, and they may find opportunities in the informal economy.

Starmer’s proposal to “smash the people smuggling gangs” is just as unworkable. The source of the problem is not dastardly gangs tricking gullible people into seeking asylum in the UK. It’s many people around the world wanting to live in relatively prosperous country like the UK. Smashing the gangs is not going to change this.

Even in the most recent year, small boat arrivals accounted for much less than half of all asylum applications. Back in 2002, there were over 100,000 applications and almost none of them came from small boat arrivals. Many asylum seekers arrive in the UK through other illegal channels, such as in the backs of lorries. And others simply overstay their visas.

Something like the now-defunct Rwanda Plan is probably the best way to deal with the small boats problem (and the general issue of asylum seekers arriving through illegal channels). In any case, we shouldn’t pretend that complex problems have simple solutions.

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transmissionofflame
10 months ago

There’s no such thing as International Law, assuming we still count as a sovereign nation.

huxleypiggles
10 months ago

Exactly, a point I have been making repeatedly and over many, many months.

I am appalled at Noah’s naïvity.

harrydaly
harrydaly
10 months ago

International ‘law’ is really a collection of treaties, which states can enter and leave. For the difference between laws and treaties, see “States make laws and enter treaties” by Robert Marchant on the Reactionary Essays substack, at dukemaskell.substack.com.

transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  harrydaly

which states can enter and leave”

Exactly!

Smudger
10 months ago

Exactly. Illegal immigration numbers demand a national emergency and that means first suspending all commitments to international migration/welfare/rights treaties. Second. Camps must be set up, with basic ration and shelter on an uninhabited offshore British island where all screening will be done. Third France is not doing what it was paid to do so stop payments and all boats to be halted by the Navy/Army and turned around whether this angers France or not. The RNLI must be removed from all engagements.
Once word gets around that entering Britain illegally is likely to fail there is a very good chance that the number’s attempting illegal entry will be reduced considerably. Meanwhile, those already here must never be allowed comforts of any kind but offered inducements to voluntarily leave or be forcibly repatriated to a country with whom arrangements are made to accept the illegals as was arranged with Rwanda.

godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
10 months ago

“An asylum seeker who arrives in the UK illegally can only be deported if there is a country willing to take them — and most countries simply refuse.”

Then deport them to the countries that don’t refuse.

stewart
10 months ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

Tried. Blocked by the courts And probably sabotaged by civil servants who don’t agree.

sskinner
10 months ago
Reply to  stewart

Then deport those judges and anyone in the Civil Service that wants open borders.

huxleypiggles
10 months ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

Dump them in Pakistan.

Heretic
Heretic
10 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

By parachute.

john1T
10 months ago
Reply to  Heretic

Waste of a parachute

stewart
10 months ago

It’s hard to deal with a problem when large parts of the population – and more importantly the ruling class that has the power to do something – don’t see a problem at all.

EUbrainwashing
10 months ago

Thanks Noah for kindly stating the rather too obvious view – one that the dear readers could not have fathomed for themselves? What would be the, albeit highly complicated, solution then?

In my book: the world belongs to humanity. Everyone has the right to visit or live wheresoever they are invited or welcome, by the person who’s property it is that they are arriving in. ‘The state’ is no more than a ‘legal fiction’, one perpetuated by an indoctrinated cult, but private property ownership is not.

I am totally unconvinced that ‘the state’ has the right to force taxation payment, a process entirely dependent on the monopoly ‘the state’ has on the use of (violent) force to assert its edict. So it strikes me, as being flipping obvious, that if these visitors arrive with nothing and have no means off sustaining themselves once here they would be far more likely to not have come unless they were very sure a welcome awaited them.

In short: private property provides the solution where the owner is sovereign, decides who can visit and enjoy the fruit. As always, whatever the question the answer is always the same: ‘freedom’.

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transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  EUbrainwashing

Ann Coulter made a similar comment about the US not needing a border wall until there was a welfare state. There’s a fair bit of truth in that.

But I think you’d still have problems – illegals could come and work and/or commit crime.

Anyway, I am a horrible racist that believes in nation states and believe that race exists and it matters. The nation state of laws is the minimalist shell in which private property rights can be respected, enforced and in which private activity can thrive and bring pleasure and prosperity.

EUbrainwashing
10 months ago

So who has the right to say you are not allowed to leave your nation’s boarders? And if they have that right then they can also have the right to say you cannot leave your region, your town, your 15 minute area, your home.

Anyone should be free to work for anyone who wishes to entertain them. What is it to do with me who cuts your grass? Where does ‘the state’ get the right to dictate that which no individual has?

Nobody sensible is going to commit a crime if they never quite know when they may be repelled from private property with lethal force. Crime will quickly reduce.

The nation does not respect private property rights – that is simply flat-out wrong. Quite the opposite.

transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  EUbrainwashing

Where did I say anything about not being allowed to leave? I think countries ought to be able to stop people entering, if they are citizens of other countries.

The nation vs private property rights is a compromise, of course, just like some level of taxation to pay for things that I do not believe can sensibly be provided on a non-collective basis.

Anyway, in short I think some minimal nation state is required for life to be optimised, with very limited powers. But I certainly don’t want to share my public space with lots of aliens. I think we are (or were) blessed in England, but we are throwing it all away.

All academic – neither of us will see anything like the world we would like to see.

EUbrainwashing
10 months ago

Have you tried leaving the land of this nation without a passport?

transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  EUbrainwashing

Not that I can remember, though I think when I was a boy you possibly could – maybe getting a ferry across the Channel. I rather think the checks on leaving are really done to make life easier for the countries you are travelling to, and to allow the government to track who has left. I don’t know if there’s a specific law that would allow the govt to stop you leaving without a passport. Anyway, obliging you to have a passport and stopping you leaving full stop are not the same thing, and you’d not get far without a passport anyway.

But this is pointless because I believe nation states are on balance helpful and I guess you don’t. I guess neither of us is happy because the nation states we have are pretty dysfunctional now in my book.

EUbrainwashing
10 months ago

‘The state’ is the device of the predatory ruling class, all ideas of benefit to the nationals is simply to perpetuate the core illusion (under which the vast majority suffer).

felix the cat
felix the cat
10 months ago
Reply to  EUbrainwashing

It’s easy to leave without a passport. Go to the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands or Eire or leave on a private boat or plane.

EUbrainwashing
10 months ago

I am happy for you to make your compromises vs your right to private property. How does that give you (and your mates) a right to say what I can and cannot do with my property?

transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  EUbrainwashing

I don’t have many “mates” left 🙂

It’s a fair point – I think this right should be used very sparingly, I just can’t see it would be practical or end well if we had no enforced collective endeavour of any kind. I rather think that’s how we ended up where we are, expect it went too far.

EUbrainwashing
10 months ago

As the old joke goes: ‘If I was looking to be traveling there, I wouldn’t be choosing to be starting off from here’.
But here we are and if we don’t break out of this conundrum it is only going to get more and more nasty.

transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  EUbrainwashing

I’m not optimistic

EUbrainwashing
10 months ago

I am sure we would have far fewer unwanted ‘aliens’ here if we didn’t have this indoctrinated cult belief in a thing called ‘government’ involved in the middle of it all. You know they are not interested in us nationals at all I am sure. So why do you keep begging for them to change?

transmissionofflame
10 months ago
Reply to  EUbrainwashing

I am sure they are not interested in us, which is why I would like to see them have much less power. But let’s face it, hardly anyone agrees with either of us.

EUbrainwashing
10 months ago

The brainwashing is powerful mojo

huxleypiggles
10 months ago

I absolutely believe in the nation state.

EUbrainwashing
10 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I believe in nation I just don’t believe the best way to enjoy being a nation is to give all the power of control to ‘the state’. It is clearly working against the nation. The predatory class have the agents of the state in their grip, and why wouldn’t they? If they control ‘the state’ they control the nation.

Jack the dog
Jack the dog
10 months ago
Reply to  EUbrainwashing

Personally I’m fed up of seeing otherwise attractive provincial towns (and also london) being turned into a kind of poundshop kandahar all at the expense of the people who created England and made it a decent enough place to live.

EUbrainwashing
10 months ago
Reply to  Jack the dog

I’d agree with that. The country has gone to the dogs. It’s a disgrace.

DiscoveredJoys
DiscoveredJoys
10 months ago

So… make illegal immigration unrewarding.

Cosca
Cosca
10 months ago

We could try the following: no new clothes, phones, internet or any of the other goodies that they currently receive.

No housing of any kind except for a nice bunk bed in a lovely crowded detention camp. For meals, give them some tasty plain porridge and a refreshing cup of lukewarm water every single day.

After a week or so, encourage all of the brain surgeons, coders and engineers to go home and enrich their own countries with their valuable skills or better still, tell them that France is nice this time of year and offer to pay for the trip.

Congratulate them on their wise decision to leave and tell them to never, ever come back.

Curio
Curio
10 months ago
Reply to  Cosca

Your comments expose well the author’s support of mass immigration (although he claims the opposite). He is trying to convince us that we have no choice but to obey international laws and accommodate economic immigrants. But where do those laws oblige us to offer them four star hotels, free education, free health and not just for them but their relatives too?

Mogwai
10 months ago
Reply to  Cosca

Yes, I should think that as long as the UK isn’t providing anything better to migrants than they already get in France then there’d be zero incentive to make the high risk journey across the Channel, nor to fork out all that money to the people smugglers. This is a no-brainer. Just make Britain completely unappealing, the same or worse than what France are doing for them. But this is how we know it’s happening by design, isn’t it? These straightforward approaches to ‘smashing the gangs’ are basic strategies that there’s no reason to not implement, *unless* you want to decimate your country in multiple ways because this is in fact the agenda. Meanwhile;

”Can anybody explain to me why two Afghans who smuggled illegal immigrants into the UK on a small boat, killing a mother and child on the way, got only 8 months in prison, while Lucy Connolly got 31 months? What kind of legal system is this?”

https://x.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1929872997541691836

BS Whitworth
BS Whitworth
10 months ago

Change the law. No asylum claims for illegal immigrants. Playing the system for five years is a joke.

huxleypiggles
10 months ago
Reply to  BS Whitworth

The law is irrelevant as we see on a daily basis.

Jeff Chambers
Jeff Chambers
10 months ago

The choice we have is either the destruction of our people, culture, way-of-life, society, and civilisation, OR the prevention of all immigrants except for the ones we want from setting foot in our country. This is now a life or death struggle for our people. And it means this: the stage we’re at now is that our salvation can only be accomplished by sacrificing the unwanted immigrants. Sorry.

huxleypiggles
10 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Chambers

No need for “sorry.”

Solentviews
Solentviews
10 months ago

I don’t believe there are many pro-migration people anyway. Everyone can see how the NHS is on its knees, how cost of housing and the crime statistics. Even thick lefties (the majority) deep down, know this isn’t going well.

jeepybee
10 months ago

I feel terrible sadness for all the women and children on the pictured boat.

Marcus Aurelius knew
10 months ago
Reply to  jeepybee

Very, very good point. Yes, see my comment here about water cannons. After all the women and children have been rescued, of course 😉

Clive Taylor
Clive Taylor
10 months ago
Reply to  jeepybee

I have enlarged the picture so I can clearly see almost every face. I cannot see a single woman or child. All, unless some are hidden, are men.

Marcus Aurelius knew
10 months ago
Reply to  Clive Taylor

It was a joke, Clive.

Lockdown Sceptic
10 months ago

“Where does Lowe propose to deport all the illegal migrants — the Moon?

How about back to where they came from?



Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
10 months ago

The first step is obviously to remove all legal protections but this comes with problems of its own. It can’t be stopped because the population is demoralised and in no condition to fight. Many of them are so physically disabled that they couldn’t even fight with high morale and a very large section is the boomers coming into their dotage. You have to be realistic about your chances. The business class has been waging well organised and well funded class warfare for sixty years and now they have won, Too may holes in the boat.

Marcus Aurelius knew
10 months ago

In the case of the boats, I think it’s a fairly simple question of protecting the borders – don’t let them get into UK waters. I am sure the Navy have the resources. The message would soon get back to the shores of France – “Don’t bother setting off because we almost sank and drowned under their water cannons.”

It hurts to write this, I believe that every human is a divine being, we should not need to prove anything, our mere existence should be all that is required… But I also live in the real world.

Jack the dog
Jack the dog
10 months ago

But, we are being continually told that legal migration far exceeds illegal migration so let’s pick the low hanging fruit. Stop it. Completely.

Visa overstayed can be sent packing. No more family importation etc

And also, tackle the other pull factors – no money, no phone, no legal aid no hotel no prospect of leave to remain for illegals.

NeilofWatford
10 months ago

France?

Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
10 months ago

It is a big shift. I remember as a child going to a shop with my grandmother and they wanted people to leave their bags at the door and she bellowed at the guard that we don’t do that sort of thing in this country. This is no longer a high trust society. This has nothing to do with immigrants. It is the lifting of the veil. The British model is so toxic now I even hear American neocons talking about how the Brits have become so dumbed down and debased and high on their own supply and champing at the bit for war. You really need to sort out your ruling class and you need to do it pronto because they are engaged in dim-witted suicidal adventurism.

Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
10 months ago

They know nothing about Europe, West Asia, China. They lack even a cursory understanding of anything. If you listen in on their chats like with the Trump team leaked conversations they sound like 14 year old children. People in more serious countries aren’t playing by these rules. You dont get away with such things in the realm of serious affairs.

Sparrowhawk
10 months ago

Theresa (“Treason”) May, as well as attempting to leave the EU with a “withdrawal treaty” leaving Great Britain legally subjugated to France & Germany, also, cunningly and without any Parliamentary debate, signed this country up to the United Nations Migration Pact, which guarantees ALL immigrants, legal or illegal, equal rights as British citizens to healthcare, housing, and welfare benefits. Hence the current situation. A major if not THE reason for the mass invasion of Great Britain by “ethnics” is because ALL the traditional UK political parties are puppets of Soros, puppets of Davos and the World Economic Forum, whose goal is to create a feudal society in these islands, where a so-called “elite” runs things from the top down, and where the people are disenfranchised – as exemplified by communist China. The WHITE race is being targeted for racist abuse, slander, and dilution by mass migration, because it is the WHITE race that gave the world Democracy while the blacks and browns have a cultural & political history where they live under dictatorship of some kind – tribal chiefs, absolute monarchs and tyrants. It is in their DNA to shrug and accept it, unlike the WHITES who are vociferous in… Read more »

john1T
10 months ago

“Where does Lowe propose to send illegal migrants, the Moon”? No, home would be sufficient.

clive17
clive17
10 months ago

hi folks be sure to research something called the kalergi plan and compare it with whats currently happening across the uk….also be sure to check out a petition on the uk government and parliament petition page…shut the migrant hotels down now and deport illegal migrants housed there…it currently has 59,043, signatures it needs a minimum of 100,000 signatures to be debated in parliament…as for resharing it be very aware that e mails cant be censored or suppressed FACT but shh your not supposed to know that…so the plan is this first be sure to sign it and then by using e mails only be sure to reshare it with all your like minded uk only wales/england/northern ireland/scotland… e mail contacts and be sure to ask each one of them to do exactly the same as im asking you in this message..it should by now have many more signatures and the reason it doesnt is apathy the mindset being petitions dont work and will achieve nothing..what such people will never admit to is the fact its there very own apathy that truly will achieve nothing FACT

adamcollyer
adamcollyer
10 months ago

“Asylum seekers who arrive in small boats cannot just be deported because the UK is legally obligated to consider their asylum applications.”

Er, well, yes, but once their asylum applications have been heard and refused, they can and should be deported. Currently that is not happening. They should in those circumstances be deported to their own country.

Note that their own country does not have the right to refuse to admit them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_return

I am aware that in some cases, there is doubt as to the person’s nationality, but that is another debate.

harrydaly
harrydaly
10 months ago
Reply to  adamcollyer

“Legally obligated” = ‘bound by a treaty which it is free to leave’, i.e. ‘bound’ only if it chooses to be. See, “States make laws and enter treaties” by Robert Marchant on the Reactionary Essays substack at dukemaskell.substack.com.

coviture2020
coviture2020
10 months ago

Illegal immigrants are by definition,through their method of arrival, proven criminals and as such would fail to succeed in any asylum application. Their malign intent is evidenced by their prior disposal of their identity documents.

RTSC
RTSC
10 months ago

If the law says we must consider the asylum application (from people who are clearly economic migrants), the law must be changed.

They’ve come from France. Send them back there.

Those already here: Stop providing them with “free everything.” Prevent them from working by placing them, in tents, in a secure Detention Camp. And keep them there until they decide to leave.

Hester
Hester
10 months ago

Dump them in Brussels and Strasbourg

allanplaskett
allanplaskett
10 months ago

In any case, we shouldn’t pretend that complex problems have simple solutions.’

Some aspects of this complex problem do have simple solutions. The dinghy commandos, as they are locally termed, filling up the Travelodges in and around Milton Keynes, where I live, set their compasses originally for the UK because they believed in it, with some justification, as an El Dorado destination.

This is simple to correct. We don’t need inhospitable detention centres in the African tropics. We still control numerous uninhabited western isles, and St Helena in the southern Atlantic. That’s the place to transfer the funds, presently enriching the Travelodge owners with the 100% occupancy-rates that hoteliers dream of, to bring about some rapid transit camp construction.

The RN still has a few ships, and the RNLI will pitch in with the passenger ferrying,

And the spec for the quarters should be non lavish. Wooden flaws, raw blankets, oil heaters, no free dental treatment, no pocket money.

Free mobile phones should not be withdrawn, We want the message to get back home asap.

Andante
Andante
10 months ago

Quote: “The simple fact is that once someone arrives in the UK, it is very difficult to get rid of them if they don’t want to leave.” That is a recipe for the end of the UK. If 1000 Afghans turn up they will stay? If 10,000 Afghans turn up they will ALL stay. If 50,000 Afghans plus 10,000 Pakistanis, 5,000 Syrians, 7,000 Somalians, etc etc THEY WILL ALL STAY?? That is the end result. That will happen if we don’t put a stop to it right now. The UK Government must declare a State of Emergency. Our current Prime Minister has had numerous face-to-face meetings with the President of France. We neeed to know what ultimatum he has given to the President of France about stopping the boats completely and permantly. If he hasn’t done that in the 9 months since he became PM he must resign. The Government of France has created a situation where that country has become a ‘Failed State’ with criminal gangs operating all across the country. That has devatating consequences for the France and the French people but because they allow this in the Calais region that has devastating consequences for the UK. The… Read more »

Marcus Aurelius knew
10 months ago
Reply to  Andante

You want Britain to be dependent upon France for the protection of its borders? Are you totally nuts, or just having a bad day?

Why should France stop people leaving France?

Thinking Slow
Thinking Slow
10 months ago

Good analysis – Lowe is throwing out clickbait, a lot of people are just angry and not interested in practicalities – where do you deport someone who has destroyed their documents? Which is what many illegal migrants do.