Is Britain on the Brink of Civil War?

According to David Betz, Professor of War in the Modern World at King’s College London, many of the preconditions for civil war exist in Britain today. Using academic studies on social cohesion, civil war causation theory and social attitudes surveys, he argues that the following preconditions are in place: elite overreach, factional polarisation, a collapse in trust, economic pressures, and the perceived downgrading of the majority population in a previously homogeneous society, are all present in contemporary Britain.

The current dynamics, he continues, point to an emerging conflict between radicalised factions within the Muslim community and an incipient nativist white nationalism. Professor Betz goes on to claim – using the Maoist model that divides insurgencies into three phases – that the nativists are in phase one, the so-called defensive phase in which the group begins to organise, disseminate propaganda and build a conscious community of followers.

Islamists, on the other hand, are in phase two – when violent attacks occur on a semi-regular basis, a military structure is being developed, but they are not yet strong enough to challenge the state’s monopoly on violence. (Professor Betz believes that, due to the absence of clear geographic divisions between the antagonists, Britain is unlikely to reach phase three – the offensive phase. This is when the insurgent groups are strong enough to challenge government forces.)

It is an arresting and troubling thesis. It is also convincing. The preconditions outlined above undeniably exist in modern Britain.

There has been a collapse of public trust in the state, for example. The 41st British Social Attitudes Survey (BSA) report, published on June 12th 2024, concluded “that people’s trust in governments and politicians, and confidence in their systems of government, is as low now as it has ever been over the last 50 years, if not lower”. Indeed, a record high of 45% “almost never” trust governments of any hue (22 points above the figure recorded in 2020); 58% (another record high) “almost never” trust politicians to tell the truth when they are in a tight corner, up 19 points on 2020; and a striking 79% of respondents said that the system of governing Britain could be improved “quite a lot” or a “great deal”, matching a record high recorded during the parliamentary stalemate over Brexit in 2019 and up 18 points on 2020.

Professor John Curtice, the Senior Research Fellow at the National Centre for Social Research, the organisation that carried out the BSA survey, says: “The Government… will… need to address the concerns of a public that is as doubtful as it has ever been about the trustworthiness and efficacy of the country’s system of government.” As Professors Curtice and Betz warn, public trust in governments of all stripes has collapsed and, with it, trust in the system of government that we have traditionally sacralised and encouraged others to adopt. That this trend, if left unchecked, could potentially shatter an already fragile social contract is a statement of the obvious. Trust in the state unites the disparate groups of a multicultural society, acting as what Professor Betz calls a kind of “superglue”. Without it, the groups fracture and retreat into silos characterised by mutual suspicion and animosity.

Although the BSA report does provide a chink of light, offering the possibility of a resurgence in trust – like the one seen in 2020 after the parliamentary shenanigans over Brexit were finally put to bed by Boris Johnson’s election victory – the signs are inauspicious. The post-Johnson resurgence was short-lived, eroded by more ‘elite overreach’ as he turbocharged immigration against the wishes of the electorate. What became known as the ‘Boris-wave’ was the final act of betrayal for a downtrodden populus reeling from a decade of broken promises.

Indeed, public trust has been eroded by elite arrogance – and such arrogance shows little sign of abating. Political elites are not only forcing mass immigration on a reluctant population; they are now actively discriminating against the white majority. The recruitment practices of our public services are a case in point. In the summer of 2023, a report found that the Royal Air Force was unlawfully discriminating against white men in a campaign aimed at boosting diversity; West Yorkshire Police recently placed a temporary block on hiring white British candidates for the same reason. In addition, a recent article in the Telegraph revealed that NHS trusts discriminate against white applicants by manipulating interview shortlists to favour ethnic minorities. Our irreproachable health service encourages what is known as the ‘Rooney Rule’ – a policy originating in American football that makes it mandatory for ethnic minorities to be shortlisted for interviews if they apply.

Furthermore, the toxic spectacle of two-tier policing is obvious to all but the most dyed-in-the-wool progressives. The contrast between the police’s uncompromising response to the white Southport rioters – in which they rightly used batons and shields against the aggressors – and their pusillanimous reaction to the Harehills Romani rioters – in which they ran away despite a bus being set on fire – was starkly demonstrative of a system that no longer treats its citizens as equal in the eyes of the law. Sir Keir Starmer took the knee in the wake of the violent Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests; he pressured judges to hand down custodial sentences to mothers who posted injudicious tweets during the Southport disturbances.

Guidance issued by the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) and the College of Policing shamelessly highlights the current two-tier approach. It says there should be “equality of policing outcomes”, meaning to ensure “racial equity” not everyone should be treated the same. Apparently, policing should not be “colour blind”. The justification for anti-white racism is therefore spelt out in black and white – excuse the pun. No wonder the police attack white football fans trying to protect the Cenotaph whilst appeasing the Islamo-fascists who wish to deface it. No wonder they tolerate marauding Muslim gangs in Birmingham while deploying armoured battalions to deal with their white counterparts.

The white, native population is in the midst of an elite driven programme to downgrade their status in the United Kingdom – a phenomenon that Professor Betz cites as a precondition for civil war. That it could lead to a backlash by those being downgraded is self-evident.

Britain is already facing factional polarisation within some of its communities. Last year, four independent MPs were elected because of a religiously-inspired preoccupation with the Israel-Hamas war. Moreover, according to government figures, the UK has approximately 40,000 Islamists on the terror watchlist. Inter-communal violence has also been playing out on the streets of Birmingham between Hindus and Muslims, as well as on the streets of London between Eritreans and Ethiopians. If you add economic pressures into the mix – economic stagnation since 2008, an acute housing shortage, historically high taxation, private and public indebtedness and broken public services – and a resentful white majority (Southport witnessed the incipient convulsions of a native population that clearly feels besieged), a heady, explosive cocktail threatens to ignite the country.

Professor Betz is right. The preconditions for civil war do exist. Years of elite overreach have led to resentment and an alarming collapse of trust in our politicians, institutions, and political system, in addition to the increased polarisation of our ever-growing migrant communities – communities that find themselves, along with the native majority, in the eye of an approaching storm. Our elites must wake up before it’s too late!

Joe Baron is the pseudonym of a secondary school teacher. This piece was originally published on his Substack, which you can subscribe to here.

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Mogwai
11 months ago

I concur with Mr Weston. How insanely naive or stupid do ‘TPTB’ and their ‘useful idiot’ minions have to be to assume these people are just going to leave their values, opinions and hostile attitudes towards others back in their Islamic homelands and go full-on ‘Operation Assimilation’ on arrival? They then pass these same viewpoints and standards down to their offspring because this is their culture, a culture which is largely incompatible with ours, as much evidence here in the West confirms on a daily basis;

”Nazism believed in a supremacist Master Race and was prepared to fight wars to achieve world domination.

Islamism believes in a supremacist Master Religion and is prepared to fight wars to achieve world domination.

As Islamic numbers grow in the West, we hurtle toward WWIII.

The majority of Europeans cannot imagine this sort of thing happening in Wimbledon or St Tropez, but given time, why shouldn’t it? Transplanting the same people with the same ideology from location A to location B doesn’t miraculously transform them into Bertie Wooster.”

https://x.com/PWestoff/status/1921823854936129954

DiscoveredJoys
DiscoveredJoys
11 months ago

The curious state of play is that whenever a representative of The Powers That Be has an opportunity to build trust they choose the opportunity to build distrust.

I keep telling myself that surely this cannot be The Plan because the consequences will be so dire, but as time draws on I can’t help thinking that the old elite are in a fin de siecle mood and are willing to bring everything down if their own pampered lifestyle cannot continue.

No conspiracy needed, just spite.

Claphamanian
Claphamanian
11 months ago
Reply to  DiscoveredJoys

A blind adherence to an orthodoxy. The blind leading the blind.

Atrebates
Atrebates
11 months ago

Without wishing to blow my own trumpet, as the saying goes, I have been saying for several years now that I think what has been described above will happen. Libtards and Leftards despise our country exactly the same as the Democrats across the pond despise America. When the excrement hits the fan, are they stupid enough to believe that they will not be attacked, raped and murdered because of their political views. “Oh don’t attack my family we are on your side”, to the murderous bastards who although they have made a b line for the UK, I believe the majority despise the UK like the white folk I mentioned above.
Unless the excrement stirers both white and immigrant believe that Retribution will follow they will carry on in their hateful ways.

huxleypiggles
11 months ago
Reply to  Atrebates

The time will come, before 2030, that fateful year, when we face a choice of do, as in fight, or die. I might have mentioned this previously.

Atrebates
Atrebates
11 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

The system will not allow me to give you a thumbs up so have ✔️ instead.

huxleypiggles
11 months ago
Reply to  Atrebates

Many thanks 😊

Cotfordtags
11 months ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

My greatest fear is that 2030 will see some excuse for postponing elections. A pandemic maybe, or our prime minister finally tweaking the Russian bear too much and a war happening. Of course, they may go for the easiest excuse, which they did this year, namely ‘we have listened to the wishes of the people and recognise that they want change to the voting system from FPTP to PR, but it will take us some time to implement and until we can, we are deferring the election ‘

huxleypiggles
11 months ago
Reply to  Cotfordtags

I have stated many times on DS that the General Election of 2024 will be our last. I am now more convinced than ever. If there is an election in 2029 with Reform as sure winners then in all likelihood Farage has been turned.

Claphamanian
Claphamanian
11 months ago

Betz uses the Maoist model of insurgency. Yes, insurgency. Not civil war. A civil war requires two sets of elites who are opposed to each other. Otherwise an insurgency is the sort of campaign waged against the Somoza dynasty in Nicaragua. This is not Crown and Parliament as in the 17th century. Two elite factions; and moreover, the 17th century, from the same strata. Cromwell was a man of the establishment who acted like a king in the end. John Gray has argued that as long as this civilisation exists there will not be a civil war. The very argument Betz uses that each faction that he identifies – the ‘nativists’ and the Islamists – has no ability to challenge government authority skirts the obvious. Each faction cannot challenge each other. One is mollified with promises and the other appeased with a different set of promises. Note the leftism in his argument. ‘Trust in the state unites the disparate groups of a multicultural society’. Trust in the state. The state was largely absent from most people’s lives in the 19th century. What ‘glued’ the country together? What Betz describes is more like a remote imperial authority managing a variety of… Read more »

transmissionofflame
11 months ago
Reply to  Claphamanian

Well said. While I feel unhappy about the huge number of aliens admitted to this country in the past 75 years, I only feel personal animosity towards those who commit crimes, generally behave unpleasantly, do not share my values, and towards those who come here illegally. I feel a lot of personal animosity towards the political and other leaders who have advanced this agenda.

Heretic
Heretic
11 months ago
Reply to  Claphamanian

Excellent post!

Cotfordtags
11 months ago

I think that there is an overplay when comparing Harehills and Southport. The first happened with little warning for the police to mobilize, but for some reason they were mobilized for the second. The question that is rarely answered is why they were ready, who was the masked individual who one moment was rabble rousing the crowd and then walked through the police lines with a WPC and sat on the wall unattended by any officer, before walking away behind police lines. The next question is why the subsequent riot, which was broadcasted in Birmingham, in which a pub was attacked and a white defender seriously injured, was not responded to by armoured police units, as the Southport crowd was. Then there was the Bangladeshi disorder in London, which post dated both Harehills and Southport in which police officers were injured but only one arrest was made. Of course, you then have the whole response to marches, where police say they turn up ready for trouble for some but not others, because of intelligence, but it always seems that the trouble only starts when either counter protests cause trouble, or the police appear heavy handed shoving or kettling a peaceful… Read more »

huxleypiggles
11 months ago
Reply to  Cotfordtags

The so-called riots are ignited deliberately. Harehills was an exception and the police ran simply because they were not under instructions to stop it.

stewart
11 months ago

Trust in government or civil unrest is a false dichotomy.

I don’t trust the government at all. In anything. But I have no intention whatsoever of fighting anyone. My chosen mode of opposition is non-cooperation. As radically as I can get away with.

GunnerBill
GunnerBill
11 months ago
Reply to  stewart

What’s your limit Stewart, when they come to your door to ask “what your islamic status” is, will you surrender?

RW
RW
11 months ago

Guidance issued by the National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) and the College of Policing […] says there should be “equality of policing outcomes”

Equality of outcomes usually means that identifiable subgroups of whole population appear in some outcome set proportional to their share of the general population. In general, this means that members from the whole source set must be selected randomly to become part of the destination set. Policing based on random selection is surely an interesting idea, however, this reallt cries for a drastic increase in the quality of incumbents in order to improve the quality of policing outcomes. Otherwise, something very drastic will need to be done to ensure equality of policing outcomes wrt violent crimes and sex of the perpetrator, as men are grossly overrepresented here.

But the person who happily babbled away here with complete disregard for the field her statements were supposed to apply to obviously didn’t mean this kind of equality of outcomes, only that less black criminals must be prosecuted to stop black people from being statistically overrpresented in the prison population.

transmissionofflame
11 months ago
Reply to  RW

Exactly.

Heretic
Heretic
11 months ago

News today shows that it is not only the Third World Ethnics that are stirring, but also the Brainwashed Marxists called “Antifa” seem to be behind all the train system shutdowns in London and previously in Europe, due to “cable fires”.

Antifa Circulating Guide To Destroy Domestic Infrastructure

“Journalist Andy Ngo drew attention to the guide in a post on Twitter.”

“Antifa accounts are sharing a guide on how to make incendiary devices that will burn cables used in infrastructure, like on TRAIN TRACKS,” Ngo posted.

“Antifa and anarchist extremists believe that domestic terrorist attacks must be used to destabilize and destroy the state.””

transmissionofflame
11 months ago

Slightly off topic but worth a read: Was the American Civil War a “Civil War”? | Mises Institute

The article says not, and I am inclined to agree:

“The civil war in Nicaragua, like all technical civil wars, was fought between two factions vying for control of the same government to rule the same territory.
This was not the case for the American Civil War (I use the qualifier “American” rather than “United States” because calling it the “United States Civil War” tacitly assumes that it was a technical civil war fought over control of one country: The United States). The American Civil War was fought because one region of the country declared political independence. Rather than claiming to have legitimate authority over the territories of the entire United States, the Confederate government claimed only to have legitimate authority over the seceding states. It was an alternative, additional government, establishing itself as a completely separate country.”

soundofreason
soundofreason
11 months ago

…an alarming collapse of trust in our politicians…

Trust has to be earned and is easily squandered.

Hardliner
11 months ago
Reply to  soundofreason

Not just our politicians – in democratic government of this nature. Too big, too expensive, too unwieldy, totally ineffective

Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
11 months ago

It is hard to draw up an inventory of things you need in a time of collapse but that is something you either do or don’t. Just don’t hassle anyone else because of your lack of foresight.

transmissionofflame
11 months ago

Perhaps we need to start talking about a two state solution for the UK.
The North, North and Central Midlands, East Anglia and Kent in one country, the rest in another. Probably NI could be divided between the two. Propose this to a “liberal” who supports this “solution” for Israel/Palestine and listen to their shrieks of horror.

Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
11 months ago

We live in an age whose glory is the lifting of the veil. As it is lifted and more monstrosities appear it is easy to become dragged down into that vibration. There are outside forces that can lift you up given the Sybilline nature of our times. I don’t listen to pop music at all these days but I listen to Cocteau Twins with Elizabeth Fraser. If you have the ears to hear her utterances provide a way out of no way. She is known to speak in languages unknown to her and in languages unknown to man. People in the know seek her out, like Madonna, but Elizabeth refused because she has no interest in matters of this world.

allanplaskett
allanplaskett
11 months ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

Er, what are you talking about?

allanplaskett
allanplaskett
11 months ago

‘Professor Betz is right. The preconditions for civil war do exist. …Our elites must wake up before it’s too late!’

Mr Baron misses the point that the same thing is happening across the West. Mass immigration is happening in the UK, Ireland, France, Germany,…

Everywhere the inflows have two strands: a preponderant strand of low-paid workers with unlimited accompanying dependants who head for social housing and multiple-occupancy rentals, and a minority parallel stand of military-service-age men who are ushered into semi-luxury accommodation where the plan is to hold and maintain them indefinitely.

I say again, the same thing is happening everywhere across the West, and it is quite obviously supra-nationally planned and co-ordinated.

Equally obvious is the plan to create civil war by this mass immigration, so as to justify abolishing democracy and freedom by means of lockdown and 15-minute everything to restore order.

Who really doesn’t know what the fighting-age men are being recruited and assembled for? Are they not to be trained up as a mercenary gendarmerie?

Bipartisan treason is what we are witnessing from our politicians.

DrDan
DrDan
11 months ago

I’m starting to think its deliberate. If we the people are fighting each other we are not paying attention to the elites strip mining our assets and they are quite happy for us to reduce population numbers.

GunnerBill
GunnerBill
11 months ago

Right now I’m looking forward to it.
The sooner the better IMO, while we still have the numbers to win.

marebobowl
marebobowl
10 months ago

Has anyone else tried to apply for an E visa from the HOME office, online? A fascinating experience. I have now spent over five hrs attempting to navigate the Evisa Gov.uk home office website. The process is virtually impossible. The home office has also contracted out the work to the wearegroup. I called the “help” line twice. Once the gentleman from wearegroup was incomprehensible and a dog was barking in the background. The second time the wearegroup group employee was completely UNABLE to help, and she had kiddies yelling in the background. The new Evisa program has been delayed twice. The most recent final date for anyone with a BRP to obtain an E visa is June ‘25. Who wants to bet this date will have to be moved ONCE again. Does anyone in Britain know shat the Home Office budget is? In this case I would say, you are being robbed what ever the budget is.
GB could sure use a DOGE and a few clever IT youngsters.

RTSC
RTSC
10 months ago

I’m in my mid-60s. I fully expect that by the time I shuffle off (probably around 2050 based on family genetics) this country will resemble Lebanon.

The Brits are slow to react and aren’t experienced in conducting a nationalistic “war.” I’m watching Ireland; they have the experience and the temperament.

That’s where it will kick off and it won’t be long in coming.

Mrs.Croc
Mrs.Croc
10 months ago

Of course we will eventually have civil war if things carry on the way they are going. Any fool can see that. When the white population have nothing more to loose, they will go down fighting. Anyone would