Can Reform Get its Act Together at the Grass Roots Level in Spite of the Squabbling at the Top?
I was up at my old Alma Mater, Boston Grammar School, for its 125th Anniversary Old Boys Association dinner on the weekend of March 8th. Warm and sunny. I looked out of my hotel room window and saw Richard Tice and another man striding purposefully into the building. I noticed them because they were wearing suits and nice pink ties, not the standard local attire in Boston which is famously ‘East Europe Central’. And Turkey country these days I discovered. Not the Christmas version, although this is where your Brussel sprouts come from. I went to school with the unofficial ‘Sprout King’ of Kirton Holme (now retired) and he was at the dinner. No sprouts on the menu.
Well, Tice is the local MP, I suppose, so had every right to be there, but on going out for the day I passed the hotel functions room where Reform were about to have a meeting of the great and the good, and from the expressions on their faces it wasn’t terribly celebratory. Later we all found out about Rupert Lowe-gate.
Fast forward to this week and I was present at the other end of the Reform firmament.
I went to the very first local meeting of Reform Brighton Branch. Partly because it was next door to where I live. Partly because I am a member. Partly because I thought I might get an update on exactly what may emerge from the Stygian marsh where the upper echelons were tussling. Not a chance. What I did learn is that while the news focuses on the top people nationally, it’s very different when you start getting dirt in your fingernails scratching around the grass roots.
People more involved in local politics than I ever have been will recognise the scenario. I went equipped with questions and suppositions I thought might at least start a debate, if the meeting turned out to be a bit slow. Not a chance it would be that kind of gathering as it turned out. Bread and butter. Or marge as it’s Reform and away from the Farage end of things.
It was an upstairs room in a pub. Naturally. Laid out for about 30-40 attendees. About 80 turned up. Seats were brought in, tables were sat on, beer was spilt. Ladies were accommodated. A few local princelings swept in from the outer reaches of Bexhill to offer advice.
There was a very convoluted entry process because there are no membership cards and the Branch Secretary can’t get access to membership details from head office. Email addresses and phone numbers had to be matched up with names. Nevertheless, cheerfulness was maintained and the meeting started 20 minutes late.
The very first Treasurer was elected. A 30-second spoken CV, and he seemed like a nice competent chap for a thankless job. Unopposed. Proposer? Seconder? Elected. No vote. Move on. No funds for the new Treasurer either. Raffle to pay for room. No funding coming from the centre. Talk of a garden party when the weather improves as everything has to be raised locally.
Chairman is a tried and tested local government candidate – formerly an independent, one defection from another party already, and a by-election coming up they haven’t got great hopes for. Others hovering to see how party set-up goes. Defections touted as happening almost by default. Seem to be happening elsewhere regularly, but there were no misgivings as to exactly who and why. It may be just me, but I’d be more suspicious that defecting to Reform might be a way to get around the glacial central vetting process.
Brighton is now heavily Uniparty locally, plus assorted others through Green to very red, to whatever colour the Gaza party is. The wilder elements are clustered mainly around the city. The further out you go, the more you find disgruntled families, i.e., Reform people, we were told. This is important because local government here is being totally reorganised into unitary authorities throughout East/West Sussex, and which suburbs are being lumped in with the city vote is going to be important. The locals want five authorities of 300,000 each, Westminster wants three of 500,000 each. No rush – they’ve postponed our local elections anyway until they’ve sorted this all out, much to the chagrin of local Reform.
Reform central is stuck in believing local structures should be organised along constituency boundaries, which just doesn’t work here, certainly not with the reorganisation. It’s taken until now for head office to agree a single Brighton Branch instead of three reflecting the three Parliamentary constituencies.
They still won’t give the new branch access to central membership information for their own members.
There is a very slow and convoluted vetting process for officers and candidates. All available central resources are being redirected to focus on the North, presumably for the local elections.
Some deep grumbling at the meeting about the shenanigans at the top, but the Chairman – sensibly I think – says all our attention should be on getting the local branch up and running and with a local comms setup if necessary as we can’t do anything without elected grassroots candidates, never mind influencing the ones at the top. And abysmal local government around here needs Reform to give it a very noisy kicking. Crying out for it.
And so on. Just over an hour’s meeting (as that’s all the room was paid for) but everybody seemed pleased that something was happening. However, I did detect disturbing hints of control-freakery in the handling of Rupert Lowe reflected in the top not wanting to release access to the party lists to the people who are actually on them, down here at the bottom.
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The best we can hope for is that grassroots sections are setup that can then move to join Rupert Lowe and Elon Musk’s new party and dump the Messiah.
This is still a recipe for disaster and fracture them from the top will just ‘happen’ again should this new party ever manage to get more than 1 MP into the House of Commons.
Rumours going around that Andrew Bridgen and Rupert Lowe might team up. Not seen Lowe comment on this yet. Bridgen doesn’t say as much in this mini clip, more alludes to it.
But what of UKIP? What if everybody who felt disillusioned over what’s happened with Reform and Farage’s behaviour towards Lowe, about immigration etc were to vote for UKIP instead? Is it really still just Reform or bust for the next G.E?
‘We’re pretty much now at a watershed moment and if Elon Musk will back us I think there’s going to be a new force in British politics very very soon.’
https://x.com/SaiKate108/status/1902274557626740971
The dissafected cleaving to and led by the disaffected. A winner.
Good luck.
As a paid up member, I’m not too concerned.
The membership is very clear what it wants re immigration, Islamism, Nut Zero etc.
The leadership will, eventually, have to sort itself out or we’ll find people who can.
I sense there’s a momentum that exceeds Farage’s ego. Watch him eat humble pie, he’s prepping the ground for a U turn now.
It’s absolutely vital the right is not split over this, as we might as well give up now and that’s the Conservative gameplan.
Hold fast. Keep calm and carry on.
4 years to go.
Reform has some major issues.
1-Chairman is a Muslim – just about kills it for me.
2-Hope not hate everywhere, selecting, deselecting.
3-0 noise about the real issues – Muslimification, ‘legal’ immigration, attack on Englishness and whiteness, everyone pace Farage is ‘racist’ especially if you support TR in any way (whose 14 yo cousin was gang raped by Muslims)
4-0 defense of Christianity which is under attack here and everywhere.
5-Reform fully supported the Rona fascism and forced jabbinations, nothing to say of the consquences of LDs or the stabbies
6-Totally disorganised. Those of us in Sussex who have gone to meetings, signed up to volunteer, filled in email forms etc etc. never contacted, never asked to participate. Nothing.
From what I see it is a univocal party – looking at ‘illegal immigration’. That is about it, though Farage did mention that the narrative on the endless war with Russia was suspect.
They will alienate their most natural voting base is my guess, by watering down their policies against ‘immigration’.
It seems that no one in this country can say what my lying eyes see, or say the truth, or even emit common sense.
I can’t see the leadership sorting itself out when Reform is still a limited company and not a party. Why did Farage & Yusuf not democratise rather than just change to a second limited company if the leadership is going to ‘sort itself out?’ I quit from my branch where I was Treasurer/Campaign Coordinator several weeks ago because I got no cooperation from the candidate who was also vice chair. He ‘forgot’ to add my to his WhatsApp group and ghosted me for days just before the campaign was about to start. After I resigned, he immediately bad-mouthed me, told the group that I’d been trouble from the start but ‘don’t worry, we’d already got her replacement lined up.’ The reason I was ‘trouble’ was because I asked questions about things that didn’t add up and of course they had no answers. Since I resigned I’ve heard from other people at other branches – some of them have resigned en masse. (See Chris Littlewood’s resignation on X and the IOW branch have also resigned in the past week.) I don’t see the leadership has any appetite for change so this week, I resigned from the party itself. They don’t make… Read more »
Who are all the people that are moving away from Reform going to vote for? Because it’s not like Farage and Yusuf are going anywhere. There’s quite a number of similar examples of people packing it in floating about now, so where do they go from here? ”I am writing this very reluctantly, as I have spent the past three and a half years helping to build recognition and support for Reform UK here on the Isle of Wight. This included standing as the GE candidate last year, coming second with 20.8% of the vote and being one of the first across the country to set up a local branch. I am resigning from my position as interim Branch Chair. My decision to resign is due to the fact that I have lost faith in the leadership of the party as a result of recent and well publicised events around your treatment of @RupertLowe10 . I believe that until the party is genuinely given back to the members, it is in serious jeopardy of being corrupted. Having one or two people in full control over every aspect doesn’t sit well with me. One of the fundamental reasons I got involved… Read more »
Fortunately, I don’t have to make a decision about who to vote for just yet. I’m going to give it some time to think it over and see what happens. They say a week is a long time in politics and given that the next GE is potentially four years away, there is time for a realignment. I am optimistic by nature and I’m not underestimating the scale of the problem but being not quite as bad as the rest isn’t a good enough reason to vote for anyone.
The problem as I see it is that Reform has come from the ‘pissed off right’, and these are people with strong views on many subjects where there isn’t broad agreement with non-Reformers.
Rupert Lowe was talking about mass-deportations which had us cheering, but its just preaching to the choir. What is really needed is to broaden Reform’s appeal, and ‘mass-deportations’ however they are justified and not going to appeal to the group of voters who we have to secure votes from. It has to be genuine and passionate, but it can’t be detailed policy after detailed policy that will be pulled apart by the MSM and other parties.I’m old enough to remember Michael Foot’s manifesto, which in great details told of nationalised banks and nuclear disarmament, and a hundred more things, and they got rightly killed by Mrs T on a broad platform of beliefs.
Most Reformers I know were dismayed by Rupert falling out with the party, as we think he is an honourable man, and a good MP, but that’s not an excuse for letting his eyes move off the prize of a Reform government in 2029.
What justification do you have for saying “his eyes moved off the prize”?
Doubtless the phrase “mass deportations” puts some off – but I doubt many who have trouble with that phrase would ever vote Reform. I would also point out that Trump was elected in spite of or because of using exactly that kind of language, and in spite of being vilified by the legacy media in his own and most other countries, since he ran first in 2015. We absolutely need to take a “radical*” approach to immigration, otherwise we are done for. Which we are. If a majority of voters don’t accept this, well, that’s democracy and our civilisation is not worth defending.
*Not radical at all – in fact normal practice until recently, pretty much everywhere. The right of a nation state to decide who comes in and who does not, on a whim, fair or unfair.
Quite right tof.
Reform are proving to be just another Uniparty faction. I will be resigning in a week or two.
When you do, Hux, please put in a Subject Access Request as I was advised to do and make sure that your resignation has been recorded. I’ll be interested to see how their live membership – subscription – numbers go
Rupert Lowe, and Nigel Farage for that matter are not Donald Trump. Central Government and its Quango’s, police and judiciary, and Media are all in the thrall of the left. No blue or red states here. Where is our Fox News, GB News I suppose, but neutered by OFCOM, and drowned out by the BBC.
As with the Democrats, there is a sizable number of our fellow citizens who support open borders and such. We have four years to win that argument with a majority, and I don’t think there is any reason why we need to be launching detailed policy now. There is plenty to attack the government on, and undermine their foolish positions on many subjects without saying chapter and verse of what we would do differently.
Just because we find the policies on immigration completely self-evident, we are not the electoral majority.We have to find a broad appeal even if that means softening the tone until we have power. This is exactly what Labour have done. Power is the objective. Its the only objective. Thats where the eyes should be, not philosophical arguments that we use to fall out with ourselves.
I agree we don’t have a Fox News, but I think that’s a symptom not a cause – a symptom that the US is more “right wing” and freedom oriented than we are. It remains to be seen whether that situation can be turned around. Doubt it.
“Power is the objective. It’s the only objective.” Sounds a lot like the approach of the Conservative Party. No thanks. I’m done voting for the least bad party. I am never going to agree with everything on any part platform, but I have some red lines. Clarity on immigration is one of them (actually the top one as it’s an existential threat). I will see what Reform are saying when the time comes to vote at a GE and make my decision, but the Lowe business has dented my confidence in the desire of Reform’s current leadership to deliver what I think the country needs.
Power is the objective. It’s the only objective.
Sounds a bit 1984 or Brave New World to me.
ATM they wouldn’t know what to do with power if it was handed to them on a plate
I hope we find out but suspect that we won’t
As more and more migrants are being dispersed into Middle England, where groups of men are wandering around, clearly not European, with petty crime (only a matter of time before something horrific happens, and the BBC will struggle to contain it) being carries out, or just as reported, harassing people to charge their phone. People will start getting uneasy about this invasion, because, up till now, the comfortably off has been insulated from the invasion, apart from the villages next to old RAF bases where the property prices have nosedived and they can’t sell their property.
Power is the objective. Its the only objective. Thats where the eyes should be, not philosophical arguments that we use to fall out with ourselves.
You’re right.
Reform at the moment is like a dog chasing a car. They wouldn’t know how to implement power if it was handed to them on a plate. There are a few branches that are competently run, like Ealing for example, but there are many like mine that were hopelessly inept and they couldn’t even run a meeting properly. Some of the things that were said by the people running the meeting were so cringeworthy I wanted to crawl under the table. The speakers seemed to forget to whom they were speaking – revealing back-room talk rather than information for public consumption – and it was emanating from Yusuf’s office.
When all this kicked off with the allegations against Lowe, he was taking to Twitter and urging voters to stick with Reform and I’ve not seen him backtrack on that. I think the priority for most is to just get rid of the Uniparty, but with all this palarver many are now feeling politically homeless as they’ve understandably lost faith and are inevitably disappointed and turning against Farage due to his treatment of Lowe but also his position on migration, which seems to be quite the deal-breaker for the majority of voters and members. Yusuf is another major sticking point, of course. I agree about Trump;
”Trump is proving that mass deportations work – for removals, but also as a deterrent.
Illegal crossings WAY down on the US southern border.
We must have the courage to do the same, even if it results in a few unpleasant insults. Honestly, who cares?
Mass deportations work.”
https://x.com/RupertLowe10/status/1902979049619656913
Trump has found that if the incentives are removed, they actually deport themselves. Well, who knew?
The problem here is wording: Mass deportation reeks of foreigners (or people suspected to be foreigners) being rounded up by goon squads in the early hours of morning and forcibly moved to barbed-wire surrounded camps etc.
Deport people who crossed the border illegally or just Actually apply existing immigration laws (instead of letting people known to have sexually assaulted women stay just because they – on advice of their lawyers – suddenly claim to be gay) both describe something which would – in practice – lead to mass deportations but without make this appear much more martial and violent than it actually is.
Yes, I would agree with that – provided the result is the same. We may or may not find out what Reform would do once in power. Suspect not.
The optics and how it’s positioned are key you are correct – ‘apply existing laws’ seems to be something all recent governments struggle with, but then if you did that you’d not be able to grow your depts and teams working up new ones would you…
“Apply existing laws” could be applied across the board to a whole panoply of barbarism allowed in this country because of religious exemption.
And yet in a recent poll, massive deportation of foreign criminals had majority support from every section of the electorate, including green and LibDem supporters, so clearly not a vote loser
Hear hear!
The other question is, is the organisation a real “Political Party” by definition? Or a protest group? At any rate, there is evidently a range of different opinions, which may or may not be compatible, or capable of implementation in the real world set up by the bureaucrats and industrialists etc.
What defines a “political party” other than an organisation registered as such that stands for election?
Are not political parties already “protest groups” – isn’t the ability to “protest” by voting for someone other than the current incumbent exactly how democracy is meant to work?
Perhaps you think that all the socialist parties (basically everyone except Reform and possibly the DUP) are “real” – because they are established? I think they are a real shower.
Farage and Starmer are visionaries. They can clearly see the future. Islamisation of Britain. First in the queue for big donors, Yusuf and Lord Alli. Both, those two philanthropists demand nothing in return. Moreover, they strongly object to immigration from Arab countries and support the repatriation of rapists and killers to Afghanistan. No?
Some are saying the real reason to oust Lowe is because Yusuf is Muslim and doesn’t like mass deportations. How devout as a Muslim is the man, and does it matter in the grand scheme of things as we know how Islam doesn’t tolerate outsiders once it gets a foot in the door.
Have an entire row of laughing emojis Curio.
Interesting.
Reform are starting to get their act together in Kettering, and I have heard similar regarding access to membership etc.
Meanwhile entire branches are resigning en masse. People like Chris Littlewood in the NW of England – resignation letter published on X – and IOW shut down last week. These people have worked hard but have now seen it was all in vain and they were conned. IMHO, Farage knows he’s blown it big time – there’s a haunted look in his eyes and he’s not grinning quite so broadly now. AWOL from GB News lately too. More subs than the England football team taking his place
I was going to help set up a local branch but I’ve lost enthusiasm since Lowe-gate. We’ll see if it picks up again. The big-wigs really do need to be careful what they say in public and social media should be vetted.
Hope not Hate is doing their vetting. They should just tell them to get lost,(like Grant Mitchell) but they don’t.
Down here in Dorset, Branches are now just about set up and meetings are being held.
I was very disappointed by the unedifying way the Rupert Lowe “issue” was conducted. It takes two sides to cause a conflict and I’m not privy to all the details so I am not qualified to comment on them.
I am continuing to support the Party because unless we shatter the Westminster Uni-Party, neither Farage nor Lowe policies will ever stand a chance of being implemented. I am very disappointed that both sides of the recent divide don’t understand that.
The fact is that when Farage resumed the Party’s Leadership last year he gave a commitment that he would lead it for 5 years. As far as I’m concerned, anyone who joins/joined the Party, or applies/applied to be a candidate should respect and accept that.
That’s the default expectation, but many can see problems ahead, that will be exacerbated by the current leadership’s “steady as she goes”, and “mustn’t rock the boat” behaviour, resulting in not preparing for the battle ahead. There’s disagreement between individuals, but it’s underlying cause is that many can see that detailed policies are needed, including how they are presented. Winning the next election isn’t the end goal, and it could be the worst of all outcomes. Those on the Right need to understand that Blair broke the ‘Crown In Parliament’, by outsourcing decision making to QUANGOs, allowing the government to plead plausible deniability: we can’t start fraccing, because the Climate Change Committee won’t allow it, and Carney’s Bank of England ambushing Truss as a last resort. And so we drift, directionless. David Starkey, Matthew Goodwin, and many others can see that, without fundamental change, returning to pre-Blair, everything will remain the same. Unless a party has a detailed manifesto, including these changes, winning a General Election will be pointless, as the House of Lords will veto EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING. And the current leadership, including Farage, is stopping this manifesto from ever being assembled. It needs many people, with… Read more »
No
The reality is that Mr Farage has pretty much made the Reform movement. For decades he has been openly vilified by the liberalese, media, and entire British establishment. To take them on and get as far as he has is quite some achievement and this is what drives much of Reform’s support. Replacing Mr Farage, with some character who came long later, would be a disaster which, presumably, is why so many from the one nation parties are encouraging such a replacement.
The focus needs needs to be on policy, not personality.
The approach to policy needs to step up a gear. Maybe it will, next week, but unless a detailed manifesto is prepared, ready for the next GE, the victors will be frustrated by the Administrators, even more than ever, and then blocked by the House of Lords. The opportunity may arise earlier than expected, so time is of the essence.
The country has suffered with politicians that have announced infrastructure programmes, with a flourish, but lacking any preparation: with no indication that there’s been input by people with the relevant experience in Planning, Supply Chain Management, Site Management, or the appropriate Engineering and Management skills.
And without those preparations, everything will come to naught. And the country cannot afford it.