Mega-Poll Shows Labour Would Lose Nearly 200 Seats
A new Sunday Times poll shows Labour on track to lose nearly 200 seats, with Reform U.K. making major gains and seven cabinet ministers – Angela Rayner among them – facing defeat, setting the stage for a hung parliament and the potential end of Britain’s two-party system. Here’s an excerpt:
The first significant seat-by-seat analysis since the General Election forecasts that, if another poll were held today, Labour would lose its majority and nearly 200 of the seats it won in July. The party, which won 411 seats in what critics called a “loveless landslide”, would lose 87 seats to the Conservatives, 67 to Reform U.K. and 26 to the Scottish National Party. Labour’s “red wall” gains would be almost entirely reversed, with Reform, rather than the Conservatives, as the main beneficiaries.
While Labour would still emerge on top, it would win barely a third of the total number of seats, giving the party a lead of just six seats over the Conservatives, while Reform would emerge as the third-largest party.
The analysis, by the think tank More in Common, suggests Labour would win 228 seats, the Conservatives 222 and Reform 72. The Liberal Democrats would win 58 seats, with the SNP on 37 and the Green Party on two.
The implied national vote share has Labour on 25%, the Conservatives on 26%, Reform on 21%, the Lib Dems on 14%, the Greens on 8%, the SNP on 2% and other parties on 3%.
Seven cabinet ministers would lose their seats, six of them to Reform, with Wes Streeting, the Health Secretary, losing Ilford North to an independent candidate, according to the analysis.
Others losing to Reform would include the Deputy Prime Minister, Angela Rayner; the Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper; the Defence Secretary, John Healey; the Energy Secretary, Ed Miliband; the Education Secretary, Bridget Phillipson; and the Business Secretary, Jonathan Reynolds.
Two further cabinet members would face tight races they are estimated to win by less than five percentage points against Reform: Pat McFadden, the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, in Wolverhampton South East, and Lisa Nandy, the Culture Secretary, in Wigan.
The model, created with survey data of more than 11,000 people, highlights a significant acceleration of electoral fragmentation since July’s General Election, with the model suggesting an election today would produce an unstable parliament with no single party able to form a government. To hold a majority in the House of Commons, a political party needs to win more than half the seats — at least 326 out of the possible 650.
According to the analysis, the next general election could herald the end of Britain’s traditional system of two-party politics, with 271 seats won with less than a third of the vote.
In another 221 seats the winner would hold a lead of less than five percentage points, where even a small swing could change the results, according to the analysis. In 87 seats the result is too close to predict and there is a statistical tie, with the estimated winner less than two percentage points ahead of their closest rival.
This appears to suggest that the U.K. is beginning to resemble other European countries, such as Ireland, France and Germany, where parties are struggling to achieve an outright majority. …
In July, Starmer’s party won 411 seats out of 650 on just under 34% of the popular vote on an extremely low turnout of 60%. Labour in fact won fewer votes in 2024 (9.7 million) than it did under Jeremy Corbyn when it lost in 2017 (12.9 million) or fell to a cataclysmic defeat in 2019 (10.3 million).
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MajorMajor
1 year ago
Go for it, Nigel.
I don’t really think you would be able to solve the nation’s many problems, but one thing is for sure: both labour and the fake conservatives deserve to suffer a big, disastrous defeat. They are empty, deceitful, talentless nonentities.
No government should aspire to solving all, or perhaps even many, of a nation’s ills.
by reaffirming the nation, securing the border, ceasing to do unwanted things and getting out of the way, a government can at least allow the people to solve their own problems.
DiscoveredJoys
1 year ago
I am pleased at the projected shrinkage of Labour and Lib Dem seats, but concerned at the surge in Green votes. Have people no learned that Net Zero is the big bogeymen yet?
When the next GE is called, the electorate will work out which is the better bet to oust their Labour MP …. Reform or CON.
Obviously the activist element will stick with their chosen Party (Reform for me), but the less committed will smell the wind and choose accordingly.
I expect that in the Red Wall, along the east coast, Wales, Essex and north Kent they’ll opt for Reform. In the shires, they’ll opt for the Not-a-Conservative-Party and hope that this time they’ll actually get some Conservative policies, not the Blu-Green-CON delivered by Cameron, May, Johnson and Sunak.
Exactly. I have stated frequently that the election of July ’24 would be this country’s last and I am sticking with this…
Our salvation will not arrive via the ballot box.
At the moment I am playing the game as a local Reform Party member but I am far from convinced that Farage will deliver and even if he can I believe Kneel will ensure that our electoral system ceases to function before 2029. I am sure the coming shenanigans in May will provide a pointer. Of course when I refer to Kneel as the perp I really mean the Davos Deviants, he’s just the gopher.
Hux, this has to be solved via the ballot box, the alternative is too hideous to think about!
I certainly do not want to raise arms against my compatriots.
Oh, and what arms? Few people in England (except drug dealers of course) have anything other than shotguns. Bolt action rifles are OK of course if you are well trained and have a lot, an insane amount of ammunition.
Oh, and point of order, on whose side do you think the sas will fight? The paras and the royal marines?
How would we organise? All web based comms will be intercepted by gchq.
Sites such as this one are probably already infiltrated by 77th. For all I know you might be controlled opposition.
Anyway civil war just pits one lot of power hungry psychos against another lot, with the common people picking up the tab. And the outcome is seldom if ever an improvement over the status quo ante.
No, however boring it may seem, it’s got to be the ballot box.
When they do these polls do they factor in a % for people who are just making a point and firing a shot across the bows of the main parties, even though at an actual election they would not vote that way.
Reform have a long way to go to turn these protest polling votes into real votes at real election.
Politics, like economics is decided at the margin.
zebedee
1 year ago
Take your choice, the text or the bar chart: Labour 228 or 256 Conservatives 222 or 208 Reform 72 or 71 Liberal Democrats 58 or 66 SNP 37 or 6 Green Party 2 or 5
Are functionally illiterate or just posting at random?
ChrisA
1 year ago
Not sure how bad the UNIparty have to be for the majority to finally wake up and do something for their own good? My left wing relatives are down for Christmas and asking why people aren’t out protesting Elon Musk, for his…… employment of over 100,000 people and investment in democracy accross the world. They literally think he is Hitler and that the Labour party has no connections with rich people. The whole Ali thing just seems to have slipped passed their cognitive dissonance wall.
“Not sure how bad the UNIparty have to be for the majority to finally wake up and do something for their own good? “
I was waiting for this to happen during “covid”. Still waiting now. I’ve given up talking to lefties about politics, unless it’s brought up directly, and I tend to try not to mix with them as most/all of them were covidians and I have no time for them.
I can’t believe I didn’t even know this but apparently you don’t need a British passport to be an MP in the UK. You just need to be a citizen of one of the Commonwealth countries. I think I’m far from alone in my ignorance, judging by the comments;
What if the rise of Reform brings out those that did not vote? That’s 40% of the electorate so even half of them is a massive amount of votes. I think the election vote numbers are encouraging for Reform given they are just starting out and will encourage more to see they are worth voting for.
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Go for it, Nigel.
I don’t really think you would be able to solve the nation’s many problems, but one thing is for sure: both labour and the fake conservatives deserve to suffer a big, disastrous defeat. They are empty, deceitful, talentless nonentities.
Fake Labour, too. They wouldn’t know work even if it smacked them in their collective faces.
No government should aspire to solving all, or perhaps even many, of a nation’s ills.
by reaffirming the nation, securing the border, ceasing to do unwanted things and getting out of the way, a government can at least allow the people to solve their own problems.
I am pleased at the projected shrinkage of Labour and Lib Dem seats, but concerned at the surge in Green votes. Have people no learned that Net Zero is the big bogeymen yet?
Surge? 4 to 5, and it’s only a projection.
When the next GE is called, the electorate will work out which is the better bet to oust their Labour MP …. Reform or CON.
Obviously the activist element will stick with their chosen Party (Reform for me), but the less committed will smell the wind and choose accordingly.
I expect that in the Red Wall, along the east coast, Wales, Essex and north Kent they’ll opt for Reform. In the shires, they’ll opt for the Not-a-Conservative-Party and hope that this time they’ll actually get some Conservative policies, not the Blu-Green-CON delivered by Cameron, May, Johnson and Sunak.
Far too many would still vote for one of the mong parties (SNP, Grn, PC) it appears…
That’s if there is another general election.
Exactly. I have stated frequently that the election of July ’24 would be this country’s last and I am sticking with this…
Our salvation will not arrive via the ballot box.
At the moment I am playing the game as a local Reform Party member but I am far from convinced that Farage will deliver and even if he can I believe Kneel will ensure that our electoral system ceases to function before 2029. I am sure the coming shenanigans in May will provide a pointer. Of course when I refer to Kneel as the perp I really mean the Davos Deviants, he’s just the gopher.
Hux, this has to be solved via the ballot box, the alternative is too hideous to think about!
I certainly do not want to raise arms against my compatriots.
Oh, and what arms? Few people in England (except drug dealers of course) have anything other than shotguns. Bolt action rifles are OK of course if you are well trained and have a lot, an insane amount of ammunition.
Oh, and point of order, on whose side do you think the sas will fight? The paras and the royal marines?
How would we organise? All web based comms will be intercepted by gchq.
Sites such as this one are probably already infiltrated by 77th. For all I know you might be controlled opposition.
Anyway civil war just pits one lot of power hungry psychos against another lot, with the common people picking up the tab. And the outcome is seldom if ever an improvement over the status quo ante.
No, however boring it may seem, it’s got to be the ballot box.
You should show more faith.
Still enough half wits dazzled by Davies’s stupid stunts to give the policy-free LibDems double figures!
When they do these polls do they factor in a % for people who are just making a point and firing a shot across the bows of the main parties, even though at an actual election they would not vote that way.
Reform have a long way to go to turn these protest polling votes into real votes at real election.
Come back after the May elections.
AAAAGGGHHHHH!!!!
WHO would still vote SNP????
What in the Name of God is wrong with these people?
Because most people are normies.
Politics, like economics is decided at the margin.
Take your choice, the text or the bar chart:
Labour 228 or 256
Conservatives 222 or 208
Reform 72 or 71
Liberal Democrats 58 or 66
SNP 37 or 6
Green Party 2 or 5
I would have thought the opinion poll was a sign of hope not a reason for bitching about why Reform has not yet achieved an overall majority.
Dont you think.
Are functionally illiterate or just posting at random?
Not sure how bad the UNIparty have to be for the majority to finally wake up and do something for their own good? My left wing relatives are down for Christmas and asking why people aren’t out protesting Elon Musk, for his…… employment of over 100,000 people and investment in democracy accross the world. They literally think he is Hitler and that the Labour party has no connections with rich people. The whole Ali thing just seems to have slipped passed their cognitive dissonance wall.
I bet you’ve had an interesting Christmas then – avoided any big arguments?
“Not sure how bad the UNIparty have to be for the majority to finally wake up and do something for their own good? “
I was waiting for this to happen during “covid”. Still waiting now. I’ve given up talking to lefties about politics, unless it’s brought up directly, and I tend to try not to mix with them as most/all of them were covidians and I have no time for them.
I can’t believe I didn’t even know this but apparently you don’t need a British passport to be an MP in the UK. You just need to be a citizen of one of the Commonwealth countries. I think I’m far from alone in my ignorance, judging by the comments;
https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1873307638748061992
Used to include ROI?
What if the rise of Reform brings out those that did not vote? That’s 40% of the electorate so even half of them is a massive amount of votes. I think the election vote numbers are encouraging for Reform given they are just starting out and will encourage more to see they are worth voting for.