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Dinger64
1 year ago

I’ve not posted for a while! Because I need a break! I’m sick of the powers that be!
Im done with f***ing Britain ! F*** Britain, its over! The rest of the west will follow!
This once proud western world is OVER!

https://youtu.be/w7zvjfrx4zI?si=jCs_2sNSEGdehesQ

Dinger64
1 year ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Sorry Hux, but Elon Musk is the difference maker! There is no one else!

huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Hang in there Dinger, I love your posts.💙👍

rachel.c
rachel.c
1 year ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Take a break. Something to restore your will to cope with the madness and believe in humanity. For me it’s a walk in the woods.

Freddy Boy
1 year ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Great post , we all need a breather atm , hang in there 👍

Free Lemming
1 year ago
Reply to  Dinger64

I have to do the same sometimes – definitely helps to keep sane. You’re right though, England is no more. It’s over. Done and dusted. It’s been deliberately smashed into pieces by far-left governments, far-left w*nkers that read the Guardian, and – and this bit does tickle me – the real enemy of the far-left who are a large radical Muslim contingent who want to stone to death rainbow-wearing far-left queers and dress far-left feminists as letter boxes… I suppose there’s still something to look forward to!

huxleypiggles
1 year ago

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/08/uk-riots-far-right-violence-protest-latest-updates/

And no you Next Tuesday you should not ‘feel safe’ you grubby little caricature.

Freddy Boy
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Cocky , Smug , supercilious, condescending, smarmy , race baiter in chief , in fact a perfect character for our version of what happened in Europe just one man’s lifetime ago , he represents along with Rowley , Cooper , Starmer , etc actual Tyranny against the UK !!!

huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

I second that Freddy.

Freddy Boy
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Thanks , he is such a horrible human that you could see him sanctioning execution’s if he could !

Lockdown Sceptic
1 year ago

Thursday morning B3340 & A33 Basingstoke Rd, Riseley
Wokingham 

501
Freddy Boy
1 year ago

👍 ✅

ellie-em
1 year ago

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-police-arrest-labour-councillor-ricky-jones-alleged-protest-call-cut-throats-fascists/

Hmm, could he be – what was that term Angela Rayner used to describe the Tories? – ah yes. Scum. Dangerous scum. Dangerous, violence promoting scum. Dangerous, violence promoting Labour scum.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  ellie-em

Quite a few people here yesterday posted that vaccine pushers should be hanged. I don’t think he should have been arrested.

For a fist full of roubles

Two people talked about hanging as an option after due process. You need to be a bit more careful with your language.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago

Two, quite a few, no material difference to my point. I agree regarding due process.

Freddy Boy
1 year ago
Reply to  ellie-em

He’ll go far , he actually said what the freaks in charge probably all think !!

transmissionofflame
1 year ago

“A Labour councillor who was filmed saying far-Right rioters are “disgusting” and should have their throats cut has been arrested, reports Poitico.”

I’m not keen on people being arrested for things they say. This looks like cover to me – they are throwing him under the bus so they are not accused of being “two tier”.

Jon Garvey
1 year ago

Point of order, Chairman… he did not simply say their throats should be cut (by some avenging angel), but that “we” should cut their throats. “They ought to be flogged and hanged” carries a very different connotation from “We must flog them and hang them.”

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

That’s a fair point. I’m still unsure as to whether he should have been arrested for a vague threat. It’s so easy for speech to be restricted too much.

Jon Garvey
1 year ago

True – enough: understandably the problem now is equal treatment under the law, when a left-wing murder threat is equivalent to sharing a video of a riot.

In my view, it ought to be the people in the crowd who cheered his remark who should be arrested: speakers can be high on adrenaline, but listeners expressing agreement with their madness are more culpable, even if (as in this case) they appear to be members of Amnesty International.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

Culpable of what? The challenge is to draft a law restricting speech that’s clear and hard to distort.

Heretic
Heretic
1 year ago

Incitement to Murder.

Mrs Bunty
1 year ago

Normally I’d agree with you, I’m all for free speech but in the next breath he chants “Free Palestine”. I think it’s safe to say that some of the people who chant that and possibly support Hamas, would be quite willing to follow through with that. We’ve seen what they’re capable of with machete attacks and stabbings.

I agree with your earlier comment, he’s probably being thrown under the bus to try to ward off two tier accusations.

stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  Mrs Bunty

I’ll bet I won’t get arrested for calling for Putin’s throat to be slit, as some politicians have called for (perhaps with different words).

People don’t really understand free speech.

It’s not for speech you agree with, it’s for speech you DON’T agree with.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

Indeed.
”Congress shall make NO law restricting the freedom of speech…”

Heretic
Heretic
1 year ago

Here’s what you can and can’t say under the First Amendment (freep.com)

What the First Amendment protects:

  • The right not to speak, such as saluting the flag.
  • To wear black armbands to school to protest a war.
  • Using offensive words and phrases to convey political messages.
  • To contribute money, under certain circumstances, to political campaigns.
  • To advertise commercial products and professional services.
  • To burning the flag in protest.

What the First Amendment does not protect:

  • The right to incite actions that would harm others.
  • To make or distribute obscene materials.
  • To burn draft cards as an anti-war protest.
  • To print school newspaper articles over the administration’s objections.
  • To make an obscene speech at a school-sponsored event.
  • To advocate illegal drug use at a school-sponsored event.
transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Heretic

Thanks. I think the crucial one is this:

“What the First Amendment does not protect:

  • The right to incite actions that would harm others.”

I believe the landmark ruling is this one:

Brandenburg v. Ohio – Wikipedia

“The Court held that the government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless that speech is “directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action””

However you do it, it’s going to be open to interpretation and you’re in the hands of judges or maybe a jury who may be biased/captured. The above is a good test though I think. I don’t think what that loathsome bloke had to say meets this test, but that’s just my view. I guess you might call me paranoid about restrictions on speech being used to impose the state’s narrative, but I think I have reason to be.

Heretic
Heretic
1 year ago

But this is not America. This is Great Britain.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Heretic

Well yes but I think the Americans got this one right and we could learn from them. Their thinking on the constitution was strongly motivated by limiting state power given their recent experiences.

Heretic
Heretic
1 year ago

So you wouldn’t mind if he incited a mob to attack your house and family in a similar manner of throat-slitting, because of your extreme free speech beliefs?

Or would you prefer that he be arrested, and anyone in the mob who cheered him on and was ready to follow his advice to attack your house and family?

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Heretic

I’m not aware he incited murder of someone specific.

I’m not sure how a court could decide if someone was “ready to follow his advice”.

Mrs Bunty
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

Completely agree, my point is though you calling for Putin’s throat to be slit won’t make any difference in the grand scheme of things but in the tinder box of today, those that have the imperative to uphold their beliefs are unhinged enough to follow through.

I’ve previously supported the right to freedom of speech of Corbyn on occasions, someone I most certainly don’t agree with!

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Mrs Bunty

“Possibly”. I don’t think that’s nearly sufficient.

Mrs Bunty
1 year ago

No probably not but as there are ‘Gays for Palestine’ there are a large number of turkeys voting for Christmas among them.

For a fist full of roubles

It was incitement to violence and immediately followed by demands to free Palestine.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago

What has Palestine got to do with it?

Jon Garvey
1 year ago

That’s kind of the question, at a supposedly anti-racist riot.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

I’m not sure it’s relevant to the point I am making, which is that I think speech should generally not lead to arrest. I very much want to know what people really think, and I want others to know too.

Heretic
Heretic
1 year ago

You quoted United States law. This is Great Britain.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Heretic

Well I wish we had that law. I don’t know what the law is here exactly, but from what I have seen, it criminalizes too much – including lots of people on “our” side.

Heretic
Heretic
1 year ago

Well go over there across the Pond and incite a mob to murder a group of their rivals, for example, and see how that works out for your freedom of speech.

For a fist full of roubles

Quite

Freddy Boy
1 year ago

Maybe if the playing field was level but it’s actually as far off kilter as it’s possible to be ! Someone just got 3 years I’m told for shouting Front doors are being cut down & kicked in for the odd tweet Comrades don’t like !

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

Two wrongs don’t make a right

paul6316
paul6316
1 year ago

I understand that threats of physical violence, as well as actual attacks, qualify as assault under the law.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  paul6316

Probably, though I would think the threats would need to be towards a specific person or persons, which I don’t think this was

Heretic
Heretic
1 year ago

Incitement to Murder.

Heretic
Heretic
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

Yes, it’s Incitement to Murder, previously the Common Law offence of Incitement, now changed to
“Encouraging and assisting an offence” in the Serious Crime Act 2007.
Called an “Inchoate” offence.

stewart
1 year ago

I was going to post something similar.

Speech is not a crime. Or it shouldn’t be.

In the absence of direct specific evidence that those words led to someone being killed, there is no crime, in my books.

To arrest someone for this is the thin end of a terrifying wedge.

We will live.to regret this moment.

JohnK
1 year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-1P2YHvLBg How will the MET Police Deal with This? (sic) by BlackBeltBarrister.

Mogwai
1 year ago

Well if this woman has been arrested for something so trivial ( the articles I’ve looked at don’t share precisely what she shared ) then this psycho ( especially given he’s a Labour councillor ) should definitely have been arrested for what he said. Tommy Robinson’s been arrested for way less. Just being Tommy Robinson, in fact. They’re coming for people up and down the country just for silly, inconsequential posts they’ve made online;

”A woman has been arrested in relation to a social media post containing ‘inaccurate information about the identity of the attacker’ in the Southport stabbings.
The 55-year-old woman from near Chester, was arrested on Thursday (August 8). She was taken into custody on suspicion of publishing written material to stir up racial hatred and false communications.
She is in police custody where she is assisting with enquiries, Cheshire Constabulary said.”

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-arrested-sharing-inaccurate-information-29704663

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I don’t think any of them should have been arrested

Jon Garvey
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Yes – the crime there was believing information that turned out to be false and led to wrongdoing. Kind of like believing Starmer that a Far Right fifth column is responsible for the protests and repeating it at a counter-protest.

Monro
1 year ago

Poked by the bear What’s really going on? The bear has been poked back Don’t panic!…….Panic! https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1821650609055182918?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet The Kremlin assesses that significant Ukrainian territorial gains in Russia would pose a threat to the Kremlin’s efforts to frame itself as a stable regime in control of the internal security situation within Russia and an effective manager of the war in Ukraine. The majority of Russian reporting indicates that most Russian forces operating in Kursk Oblast are elements of less combat effective units. The Northern Grouping of Forces likely launched the offensive operation into northern Kharkiv Oblast before it reached its reported planned end strength and has since suffered heavy casualties that have likely constrained Russian efforts to build out the grouping.  The redeployment of significant elements of the Northern Grouping of Forces to focus on pushing back Ukrainian forces in Kursk Oblast would likely further stretch these elements and create vulnerabilities in Russian defenses elsewhere along the border. One Russian milblogger criticized the Russian military command for failing to observe and react to Ukrainian forces allegedly massing on the border near Kursk Oblast. Russian forces have failed to internalize lessons learned about the difficulties of mechanized manoeuvre on an assumed transparent… Read more »

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  Monro

So it is an irritant and not a serious threat. It has resulted in losses of a high percentage of elite Ukrainian troops and disproportionate amounts of equipment for a few days of PR opportunities.

Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

Russian Emergency Service:

“The situation in the Kursk region is now classified as a federal emergency

The region has a federal level of response.

This decision was made by the Government Commission for the Prevention and Elimination of Emergency Situations and Ensuring Fire Safety at an extraordinary meeting”.

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  Monro

It is currently only a threat to the civilians living there who are being deliberately shot at as they drive civilian vehicles and those who have not yet been evacuated.
It will not be too good for the health of the Ukrainians either although some have refused to take part, resulting in the replacement of at least one commanding officer

Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

A large fire is occurring in Rylsk

Reportedly, a Russian column was destroyed at night

Rylsk would be a key target for Ukraine to cut off most Russian logistics going to the border with Ukraine’s Sumy region.

It’s within HIMARS range.

Don’t panic!

Monro
1 year ago
Reply to  Monro

Powerful explosions and air defence activity reported over Kurchatov in the Kursk Operation Zone, the town where the Kursk nuclear power plant is located.

The next target for Ukrainian forces might be the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant. The plant, which supplies energy to 19 regions of the Central Federal District, is about 30 km away. Currently, the plant is guarded only by women, according to the Vazhnyye Istorii Telegram channel, citing a plant worker. According to him, the plant’s management has no plan in case of an attack, and employees have not been instructed on what to do next.

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  Monro

So what is your prediction for the outcome of this attack on Russian territory?

Baldrick
Baldrick
1 year ago

Neil Oliver and Ivor Cummins interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mx5j_lVOG30

EppingBlogger
1 year ago

The closure of GARM does not seem to me the end of the matter. It was transparently the creature of its creators to whom litigation might be expected to “cut through” so the owners, financiers and motivators of GARM might be held liable for its actions.

Courts in the US and in the UK have long been prepared to allow such claims.

I look forward to similar litigation in the UK. Our market abuse legislation should be amended to facilitate private litigation, damages and injunctions. The state appears to be on the side of monopolies and oligopolies as so often happens in authoritarian leftist regimes which used to be simply described as fascist.

huxleypiggles
1 year ago

https://unherd.com/2024/08/tommy-robinson-is-copying-the-progressive-playbook/

I’m glad I’m not one of Simon Cottee’s students.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago

This is worth reading, especially the part that starts

In the fall of 2020, I was teaching a group of 2nd and 3rd graders”

The Virus Telenovella – Teaching the Plandemic – OffGuardian (off-guardian.org)

Mrs Bunty
1 year ago

Brilliant read, thanks

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Mrs Bunty

Glad someone saw it – I found that part quite uplifting.

Mrs Bunty
1 year ago

His elephant story was inspired, would work for some adults I know 😏. Would have helped some fight the ‘nudging’ that was incessant during Rona times.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Mrs Bunty

Yup though adults are better at doublethink