Second Female Boxer Leaves Ring in Tears After Losing to “Genetically Male” Opponent Who Failed Gender Test
A second female boxer left the ring in tears at the Olympics on Friday after losing to a “genetically male” boxer who previously failed a gender test. The Mail has more.
Women’s boxing is mired in yet another controversial gender row as two-time world champion Lin Yu-Ting went the full three rounds to beat Sitora Turdibekova, 22, and is now only one win away from a guaranteed Olympic medal.
It comes just one day after Algeria’s Imane Khelif beat Italy’s Angela Carini in a clash lasting just 46 seconds.
During the fight, Carini was hit twice, suffered a suspected broken nose and barely threw a punch before telling her corner “it’s not fair” and abandoning the match.
She then sank to her knees in tears and refused to shake Khelif’s hand. After the one-sided 66kg category bout ended, Carini said she quit the match to “save my life”.
But despite the fury that followed, with Team GB star Nicola Adams slamming the “unfair” and “dangerous” fight, Olympic chiefs refused to back down and allowed the 55kg category bout to go ahead.
The fight ended less acrimoniously than yesterday, with Lin and Turdibekova touching gloves after she unanimously took victory.
However, the pair did not embrace or congratulate each other and the defeated boxer left the ring quickly refusing to stop to talk to reporters.
The clash between Lin, 28, and Turdibekova sparked controversy after Lin failed a gender eligibility test at last year’s World Championships.
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So the Olympics have become another tool of the elites.
It’s a bit more than that. The IBF (International Boxing Federation) had always run boxing in the Olympics. However, the IOC fell out with them and now run it themselves. The IBF have a rule, used in the last World Championships for example, which says that if a fighter (both in question were born Female) test positive for male chromosomes, XY, then they cannot compete. Female chromosomes are X.
Since both Females (worth stressing because, by birth they are Female) in question would fail the IBF test they should not be allowed to compete. Male chromosomes, XY, mean a fighter can punch upto 2.5 times the power of a Female X chromosome fighter.
Additionally, a Female X fighter cannot absorb the same punishment that a Male chromosome Female can. How many women in domestic abuse cases successfully fight back even when the bloke is wimpy?
This is far more a case of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) sulking and refusing to implement the IBF rules. Said rules by the way have been adopted by most sports thanks to people like Sharron Davies and J K Rowling.
More professionals speaking out about this scandal. It’s just ridiculous that the IOC are placing these people in the women’s categories based on the sex recorded on their passports! Just insane and hardly scientific or fraud-proof;
”A Hungarian sports official has come out and stated that Algerian boxer Imane Khelif is not female. István Kovács, the European Vice President of the World Boxing Organization and former Secretary General of the International Boxing Association, told Hungarian press that he had warned the International Olympic Committee about males participating in women’s boxing as early as 2022, but that nothing was done.
In a shocking statement made to Magyar Nemzet yesterday, Kovács confirmed the speculation surrounding the Algerian boxer, adding that it had been known as early as 2022 that Khelif was biologically male.
“The problem was not with the level of Khelif’s testosterone, because that can be adjusted nowadays, but with the result of the gender test, which clearly revealed that the Algerian boxer is biologically male,” Kovács said in an interview with Magyar Nemzet, adding that a total of five boxers had been examined including Khelif by the International Boxing Association, and all of them “were indeed men.”
https://reduxx.info/international-olympic-committee-was-warned-about-male-boxers-world-boxing-organization-vice-president-says/
Richard, I must correct you here. On currently available evidence both were born male due to the presence of the Y chromosome. A female cannot test for the Y chromosome and become male, they are already born male.
As I have mentioned on previous posts, sex determination is a binary allocation i.e you either produce large gametes (eggs) or small gametes (sperm). This is also true for DSDs due to the genes within the chromosomes which control the development path. The sex-determining region on the Y chromosome develops fetuses into males, whereas genes like WNT4 and RSPO1 develop fetuses into females. Therefore, atypical chromosome combinations (XXY/XXXY/XO/XXX etc) are not examples of additional sexes nor are they exceptions to male and female binary categories, rather, they are developmental disorders within the two sex categories.
There is no ambiguity here, the presence of a Y chromosome means they have always been male since fetal development.
Do you have authority that they were born female? Starmer’s best man said they are female according to their passports. As in Scotland and parts of the UK (excuse my lack of the latest gender rules and laws) one can declare one’s gender (actually sex, non?) after 6 months, and a doctor’s OK. Algeria would dearly love to have a gold medal, and so the minster of xyz would be keen to give him a passport that says female. Taiwan is more transparent, but still, the government would also want a gold medal. Both look very male, skinny, but male. No boobs. Masculine features. The Taiwanese is definitely a man, judging by photos of him in various settings. One shows him almost as a flight attendant.
When was it not?
We.are now simply noticing things that before we were blind to.
Ladies. ——-Get together from all sports to create a petition in the form of a letter to inform all your sporting authorities that you will not tolerate any more of this Cultural Marxist CRAP. In that letter tell them that unless they make a statement that this nonsense will stop that you will not participate further in your particular sports. This will send shivers down their spine once they realise you are all serious. The result will be no woman having to face men ever again.
Well, I think the key to this, the key to all of this, is for men and women to come together. For that to happen the victim group that is feminism has to raise their eyes above their navel. However, because it is now a far-left ideology it never will – these far-left ideologies never look upwards.
Mental illness, all part of the Cultural Marxist plan to demolish civilisation.
Men beating up on women at home is a crime.
In a ring it is ‘sport’.
Wow, this is very good news to read, plus the recognition that the IOC are treating the female competitors unfairly as the buck stops with them on this issue; ”International Boxing Association (IBA) will award Angela Carini, who abandoned the fight against Algeria’s Imane Khelif at Paris 2024 Games after 46 seconds of the first round, the IBA prize money as if she were an Olympic champion, President Umar Kremlev claimed. Carini refused to continue the fight against Khelif from the last 16 in Paris, as she mentioned that she wasn’t able to continue. ‘I couldn’t look at her tears,’ President Kremlev said. ‘I am not indifferent to such situations, and I can assure that we will protect each boxer. I do not understand why they kill women’s boxing. Only eligible athletes should compete in the ring for the sake of safety.’ Kremlev also said that IBA will support Sitora Turdibekova of Uzbekistan. Today Turdibekova unanimously lost to Lin Yu-ting from Chinese Taipei, who was also deemed ineligible by the IBA back in 2023. In May, the IBA leadership took a bold decision to award all Olympic champions and medallists of Paris 2024 allotted prize money. The unprecedented move in… Read more »
We all know why they’re not in a rush to reintroduce this sex test though. It’s anti-Woke narrative and ironically seen as ‘divisive’ to the woketards, who are obsessed with gender identity and hate acknowledging biological facts, such as sex. The lines between male and female must be kept blurred at all costs because it means the agenda can keep being pushed, female athletes coming off worst in this context. This seems a no-brainer solution to the problem but I won’t be holding my breath it’ll become a reality, unless more pressure is applied to sporting bodies, that is; ”Olympic chiefs should reintroduce sex testing for female athletes to protect them from injuries amid concerns about eligibility, a United Nations adviser told Sky News. The issue is set to feature in a report now being prepared by Ms Alsalem to deliver to the UN General Assembly in October that will have a focus on violence faced by women in sport. “It’s really important to make sure that the physical safety of any player is upheld,” Ms Alsalem said in an interview. “We know that there are simple, efficient, dignified ways of testing sex… that are not invasive, that are cheap… Read more »
Thanks for posting.
Its clear to me that the political class some of whom are married to trans men are determined to change the description of what a woman is so they do not appear as deviants.
This is insanity – and dangerous insanity at that.
At some point a young lady is going to be killed. Of course at which time the usual tripe of “lessons will be learned” will be trotted out.
Utterly firkin disgraceful.
The abusive nonsense will only stop when ALL female athletes walk out and refuse to compete.
Hit the organisers and sponsors of these mega-expensive “sports” events where it will hurt them the most ….. in their wallets.
There really needs to be a rational discussion on all of this. In this particular case both boxers were born Female. However, both test positive for Male chromosomes. This is not a case of a bloke in a dress beating up a woman: it is a case of a Female testing positive for male chromosomes which give her a known advantage over other Females. From a sport perspective both boxers are, effectively, Male and cannot compete. The IBF rules are clear on this point but the IOC decided to have a spat with the IBF and refuses to implement a sensible rule designed to protect fighters. This also applies, very obviously to Trans: they cannot be allowed to compete in womens sports and they cannot be allowed to access womens spaces. They are simply not able to be classed as women in any way whatsoever. The real issue is that the entire push for Diversity, Inclusion and all the rest has been forced upon everyone with no discussion. This is the same as the Southport case at the moment. With no real, genuine discussion and honesty about the issues, we end up, in societies, with irrational theories and rumours. It… Read more »
Yes it’s important to emphasise that if these boxers are diagnosed as ‘intersex’ due to having ‘Disorders of Sexual Development’ ( DSD ), which is an umbrella term, they’re a completely different kettle of fish to the trans people we’re seeing in other sports, such as cycling, powerlifting and swimming etc, who are blatantly men parodying women and exploiting the loophole that exists for the likes of them. This is why I’m such an advocate for these sex swab tests, because it boils everything down to sex chromosomes, which is the simplest way I can think of for having some form of standardized test in order to separate out anyone who would have an unfair advantage, therefore keeping women safe and competing on a level playing field, thereby maintaining the integrity of female sports. This lady is an expert on the topic and I found her posts very informative; ”I don’t know what condition any boxers who probably shouldn’t be competing in the female category have. I provided info on one condition that fits the info I do have (athletes with XY chromosomes, an apparent significant advantage in strength and power, not identifying as transgender, competing in the female category),… Read more »
Hear, hear.
If you test positive for the Y chromosome, you are born male. Sex determination in humans largely occurs through the activation of the SRY gene on the Y chromosome, thus:
X = Female
XX = Female
XXY = Male
XY = Male
XYY = Male
XXXY = Male
Unless evidence is presented to the contrary, both boxers are male and were born as such irrespective of DSDs.
Intersex conditions can make it difficult to make a definitive decision but as I understand (and I may have this wrong) females are XX chromosomes and anything else is either intersex (e.g. Kleinfelter’s syndrome is XXY) or male. So in my opinion, it should be that all women’s sports require double X only. Unfortunately, this might mean some intersex people are unable to compete in women’s events even though they may have been raised as a female but it is the fairest way.
Only 0.01% of births are ambiguous and require genetic testing to determine sex. Intersex or being between sexes is erroneously applied to people with DSDs. The popular definition for ‘intersex’ is too broad. It includes people who are unambiguously male or female, rendering the term’s use scientifically and clinically meaningless. Additionally, ‘intersex’ does not mean that the person is not male or female, rather, that physical markers for their sex are conflicting.
I can certainly sympathise with an intersex girl with testicular feminisation syndrome, of whatever the exact diagnosis is. You’re ineligible for either male or female sports, and in such a small minority that you can’t generate a league of your own. Even worse if you were only diagnosed after you began your sporting career.
But level playing fields are necessary both for fairness and safety. And if that were spelled out from the start, it would in the end be better for all concerned.
Sex is binary, irrespective of DSDs. One is either a male or female.
It is like a man being punched by a chimp. It isn’t that the chimp is trying harder it is simply that the bone is bigger and able to tolerate higher stresses. Any man can mess a woman up by hitting her hard in the face or chest a few times to the point where she needs hospital treatment and has broken bones. It is basically the same as punching the rib cage of a male child. Did you see the look of utter hatred on the face of the man as he was punching her. This is not professional fighting. He looked like he really hated her and wanted to kill her. Just watch the close up video if yu don’t believe me.
Any man can beat the crap out of a woman or child or old aged pensioner. You have to ask, is there really a sense of achievement in that. There isn’t. If you think there is then you are a low life. Attack a 20 stone man who is proficient in fighting. They will have your guts for garters if you are even still alive after the first punch. When it comes to combat don’t pretend things because it makes you look like a prat afterwards.
I think that this says it all (courtesy of the Daily T) “‘No doubt’ boxers like Imane Khelif are women, says Olympics president.IOC president Thomas Bach also suggested that the IBA, which gender-tested Khelif and Lin Yu-ting, lacked any credibility.” Just who is lacking credibility?
I was shocked to read yesterday that before the 1980s all female Olympics athletes were forced to parade naked before a panel of “Olympics Medical Experts”, who assessed whether they were male or female. The only exception was made for Princess Anne.
No mention was made of whether the male athletes were similarly forced to parade. Nowadays, it’s apparently done by taking swab samples from the athlete’s mouth— much more scientific, sensible and less humiliating.
I don’t even understand this nonsense it is so divorced from reality and frankly anyone who thinks this way doesn’t understand fighting. It doesn’t mattter how much conditioning work you do you will still be slaughtered. I would simply ask, are the people who make these decisions fighters themselves. I doubt it. If not then there is no reason to take them seriously. And no serious warrior would ever enter a ring where they have an inherent advantage, If you are facilitating this then you are a little bit sick in my view.
I’m struggling to find any feminine traits in either of the two boxers who want to fight sportswomen who clearly are women. Anyone point me in the right direction?
Such a shame that entities like the Daily Mail seem to be obliged to say such things as “with Lin and Turdibekova touching gloves after she unanimously took victory” rather than the plainly truthful “with Lin and Turdibekova touching gloves after he unanimously took victory”. Sticks in the craw every time they do this.
I have an idea – why don’t the two XY fighters box each other for a grand finale? That would bring the house down in viewership, and brush away the dreadful sour taste of the last supper sacrilege.
There are already tests that can tell the authority a lot about the athletes – tennis players are tested (urine generally but also blood) for banned substances, track and field ditto, so boxers surely have the same tests? But, while the lab looks at testosterone (which some comments here already explain – that it is not conclusive), check the chromosomes!!! That’s what the IBA did and caught the cheats. So IOC’s inaction here is a violation of the human rights of the female boxers.
The “alleged” woman has the clastic male shape, wide shoulders, narrow hips. He obviously has xy chromosomes, because that is what causes the shape in the first place. Now then, pit him against a real male boxer and see what happens. Could be interesting! The Olympics are now a farce in so many ways.