Le Pen’s National Rally Wins Popular Vote With 37% – More Than Labour Polled to Secure a Landslide – But Comes Third

So, what happened in the French legislative elections yesterday? How did Marine Le Pen’s National Rally, the big winner in the first round, having obtained nearly one-third of the votes cast, end up limping over the finish line in third place behind the Left/far-Left New Popular Front alliance of Jean-Luc Mélenchon?

The solution to this riddle is to be found in the tacit electoral pact between Mélenchon’s alliance and French President Emmanuel Macron’s ostensibly ‘centrist’ alliance, which I discussed in my last article here, and the peculiarities of France’s electoral system. 


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transmissionofflame
1 year ago

Was the electoral pact “tacit”? We knew about it here! I’m sure the French knew what was going on, or could have easily found out.

Dinger64
1 year ago

We can chew the cud about France’s electoral system until the cows come home (pun intended 😉) in the real world its just an elastoplast on massive gaping wound!
France is now beyond a settled nation, its a ticking time bomb!

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Yes soon the excuse that migrants are “escaping war” in France will be legitimate for once.

Marcus Aurelius knew
Reply to  Dinger64

You know, where I am (France), it’s lovely.

They tried to tell you it was a pandemic. You saw through that one, right? Why not this bullshit?

Friend: pull up a comfy chair, grab the popcorn and watch the different bits of the Left start eating each other.

Caviar gauche, all of them.

Mogwai
1 year ago

”If voting made any difference they wouldn’t let us do it” ( Not Mark Twain )

Of course ‘Micron and the Leftards’ had to form an alliance, because they can see clearly how Le Pen’s party just keeps rising in popularity. Can anyone seriously envision France ever doing a ‘Netherlands’ and being lead by the so-called ‘far-right’? I can never see it myself, but they showed their true colours last night didn’t they, and the lengths in which they’ll go to. The coming months will be interesting…France, where tyranny becomes the new democracy;

”Marine Le Pen’s vote percentage keeps rising:

2007 0.08%
2012 4%
2017 9%
2022 17%
2024 37%

Le Pen’s RN: 37.05%
Mélenchon’s NPF: 25.95%
Macron’s Ensemble: 24.54%”

https://x.com/ImtiazMadmood/status/1810252613088166389

Dinger64
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

“Micron” love that!😅

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
1 year ago
Reply to  Dinger64

Can’t agree, it is discriminatory against Micron’s.

Marque1
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

Maricón perhaps.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Indeed this is one positive. Maybe it’s too late. Hope not.

Jon Mors
Jon Mors
1 year ago

To be fair, this does reflect the will of the electorate. Let them stew.

France is about 5-10 years ahead of the UK in the race to turn into a third world state. Yet an immigration restrictionist party cannot win. Read into that what you will.

I just think people are very very bad at taking corrective action before disaster strikes in. This is how dictatorships arise.

Dinger64
1 year ago
Reply to  Jon Mors

..and how revolutions begin! over far less than this I might add.
This is tantamount to vote rigging!

Mogwai
1 year ago

The Slovenian former PM also agrees democracy is dead in Europe. Unfortunately he was a bit wrong in his prediction of the outcome of the French election, in this interview from a few days ago. Micron is the micro turd that won’t be flushed; ”It seems that some people still believe in the existence of a “responsible” social democracy. Don’t you think this is a serious mistake when we are seeing that the differences between socialists and the far Left are becoming increasingly blurred?” ”Social democracy has disappeared in Europe. What we have is the radical Left, because cultural Marxism has taken over what was the “normal” Left during the Cold War. The entire European Left is like this, perhaps with the exception of Denmark. The problem is that we have been blind—some of us still are—for twenty years.” ”Earlier, you mentioned Macron’s political woes in France. What do you think of his decision to bring forward the elections?” ”He has made a mistake and the only thing he has achieved is that the whole Left is united, but not with him. In the end, his party will disappear, as will the Republicans—the party of the EPP in France. Macron… Read more »

JXB
JXB
1 year ago

A lesson for those who imagine getting rid of our FPTP system for some sort of PR or other mash-up will magically deliver the election to a Party like Reform.

Once the label Far/Extreme/Hard Right is attached – that is any anti-establishment movement – the Establishment and Media pile on to use all and any means to ensure: They Shall Not Win.

In Germany the ‘Far Right’ AfD Party has been gaining too much ‘populist’ support and too much electoral success, so has been excoriated in the media and now debanked. .

What is needed here is reduction in the number of MPs to about 500, and constituency boundaries redrawn to equalise populations in each and diversify (politically) the demographics so no ‘safe-seats’.

I also favour gallows erected opposite Parliament.

stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  JXB

You’d be executing powerless dolts.

Anyone who thinks MPs have the power to do anything isn’t paying enough attention.

The whole place is run and governed by technocrats and bureaucrats.

MPs are there only for aesthetic reasons.

To be honest, I don’t even think that we live in an undemocratic system. Most of the population seems to be on board with a big state, net zero, lots of regulation, wealth redistribution. They love all the handouts from the state. In fact, they want more. They want a better “free” health service. They want bigger pensions.

The only problem with the whole thing is that it’s completely unaffordable. Most people don’t have the brains to do the simple back of an envelope sums that show that you can’t pay for it all even if you confiscate all the income from “rich” people and get them to do it all for nothing.

So of course you’re going to get a bankrupt state if the population can’t do simple sums.

Hang all the politicians you like, it won’t change much. The population is still basically retarded and will produce retarded outcomes.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

MPs could change things if they had enough courage and the backing of the people, but they have neither. I largely agree with the rest of your bleak assessment.

JXB
JXB
1 year ago

The day there is a majority for putting that sacred cow the NHS out to grass to be replaced by competitive, free market medical care insurers and providers, I’ll believe the people actually do want change and reform.

Until then we’ll remain a nation of parasites all believing each has a Right to live at the expense of others.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  JXB

Sadly true and though I hope we both live to a ripe old age I don’t think we will see that day.

Freddy Boy
1 year ago

The Bomb or similar could drop at anytime , let’s just make hay while the sun shines !

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddy Boy

I am doing my best!

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
1 year ago
Reply to  JXB

What gets me is the vast majority of Sheeple genuinely believe the NHS is Free! They are so absurd it is untrue. In any other country, for what they pay in NI, they would have the absolute top of the line care.

Norfolk-Sceptic
Norfolk-Sceptic
1 year ago
Reply to  JXB

It will probably happen after a financial crisis, not through the ballot box.

stewart
1 year ago

Yeah long chain of ifs though.

The example of Reform and how Farage was attacked shows what is in store for anyone who wants to rally the public against the establishment.

And let’s face it, all Reform’s energy comes from the people who want to stop immigration. I think the percentage who are energised by the “reduce the state” agenda is small.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

Sorry, thinking Reform is just Immigrants is bullshit and you have swallowed, hook, line and stinker the BBC diatribe. I doubt very much it tastes of anything but Lefty Bullshit.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

I will let stewart defend himself as he sees fit but while the whole Reform program looked to me overall a good deal better than what the Tories were offering and had failed at, the number 1 red line issue for me is immigration as I think that’s by far the hardest folly and evil to undo once done. So certainly that’s where my “energy” is. I think we all realise they have other policies that appeal to people on the political “right”.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
1 year ago

Totally agree. Immigration is an issue and the only party with any idea that would work is Reform. That does not mean Reform are a one trick pony, they have great ideas across the board. What did Islington or Non-Tory have in reality? Hell, Islington are making it up as they get out of bed in the morning!

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

When I saw the manifesto it just looked to me like what the Tories were supposed to have been doing while in office, and I still find it puzzling that 6 million people voted Tory.

stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

No, no, I’m not saying Reform is just about cutting immigration. But I think it is the issue that energises people to support them most. By far. And that is supported by the fact that is the thing Farage mentions the most.

My main point in any case was that I don’t think shrinking the state is something the British public care much about, not even Reform voters, even though something in that regard is in their manifesto.

But trust me I would absolutely love to be wrong about that. It’s the absolute top of.my list of concerns. I think you solve that and you solve many other problems with it.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

I have to agree with that Stewart, to-heavy state, top-heavy management are all parasites making everything unwieldy and ineffective. Where I work we have far too much management and far too few producers and it fails for the same reason top-heavy has always failed.

Norfolk-Sceptic
Norfolk-Sceptic
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

Too many mangers with no idea about the technicalities of the job, EG, an Energy Minister with no STEM knowledge, so basic mistakes continue, and continue.

Norfolk-Sceptic
Norfolk-Sceptic
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

NET Zero will destroy the country, no matter who lives here.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

Indeed. They may have stolen an election from Trump, they are trying to put him in prison and of course he and his supporters are vilified by most of the establishment. Yet he may win again.

I agree about the “reduce the state” agenda, but I would settle for close to zero immigration. Once our country goes it will never come back, whereas we can always “reduce the state” slowly but surely in our own time.

JXB
JXB
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

And those technocrats and bureaucrats are in an international maze of committees, organisations, bodies, non-profit all with intersecting, interdependent interests and aims.

An international hub which feeds into Countries via their government bureaucracies.

Freddy Boy
1 year ago
Reply to  JXB

Wank-rs The Lot of em!!…

Norfolk-Sceptic
Norfolk-Sceptic
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

In a Welfare State, mistakes are not corrected, especially if Equity is in full swing.

Hence, we have what we have.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
1 year ago
Reply to  JXB

I’m none too sure you have actually looked at the figures. How can it be right that Reform represent 100% more people than the lib Dems but get far fewer seats. How can it be right that Labour represent a few people down an Islington Pub but tell everyone else what to do?
Back 30 years ago, even in 2011 when Clegg had a hissy fit because his Alternative Vote was pathetic, there were far fewer parties. The main three represented most people. Today you can get a ballot with anything up to 15 or so!
How does First Past The Post even begin to represent those people let alone address the disparity?
Starmer represents a Leftard Clique who all rolled out of bed to vote. The figures prove it. He doesn’t represent me, he is not my Prime Minister. Since you are on here he most likely is not yours but he will take your money, your home, your pride and your garden.
So go tell me it is right that you have no voice.

TheGreenAcres
1 year ago

It’s not the worst result for the RN. France is going bust so it could be argued they are better off out of it – to swoop in next time.

In fairness though, economically speaking several RN policies are not far removed from what the left want, and are therefore just as unaffordable.

stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

I agree the system is going bust. The problem is it’s impossible to predict when. It’s gone on far longer than I thought it would, so I daren’t make any sort of prediction.

JXB
JXB
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

Nobody foresaw the collapse of the USSR… or Rome, in the day.

When it came, it came suddenly and was quick and brutal. The same will be true here and in other EU Countries.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
1 year ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

I disagree, it is a spectacular result for RN because everyone in the world can see who they were stitched up and how dreadful the result is for France. If the nobody’s Prime Minister in France survives six months I’ll be amazed. Melanchamp is already saying it is all he wants or nothing and he makes Starmer look sensible.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
1 year ago

I’ve read through a few of the comments and, to be honest, I think an awful lot miss the point. Sure, most people are not as politically active as we tend to be. Sure, 90% – 95% of the population are thick as mud with a good dollop of concrete mixed in. However, the overriding aspect of the human race is survival. What does that Survival Instinct mean in terms of politics? They can spot a stinker when they perceive it. Look at the UK Non-Election of Islington’s Prime Minister: the vast majority avoided it like the plague. So why did they do that? If they voted for what they think they would be shouted at, so they stayed at home. Look at France where it has become increasingly okay to say “Le Penn is correct (note I avoided ‘right’)”. In the UK, Reform outperformed every party bar the Conservative and Islington parties. What, in all seriousness, do the figures show you? Nobody really wants Islington or Tory but increasing numbers are attracted to Natural Survival: Reform. Flee or Fight. Even the most moronic of pro-jabbers can see this election is a sham with a party in charge of the… Read more »

RW
RW
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

In politics it means Reform, AfD and Le Penn.

The AfD got bundled out of the EU party alliance it used to be part of because of Krah’s statement that not all members of the Armed SS (Waffen-SS) were criminals and the RN was instrumental in achieving that.

According to Farage, Reform is firmly committed to being a junior partner of the USA wrt to foreign policy.

As the German saying goes: Not everything which blinks is really gold¹.

¹ Nicht alles, was glänzt, ist Gold.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  RW

He also said he beat the ‘Far Right’…..When that phrase is meaningless. Many of those far right as he calls them probably voted for him including myself seeing that Heritage & UKIPO were not strong enough and would split the right.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago