Why Our Elites Are Unpersuaded by the Evidence of Human Suffering

Like all of the best ‘quick drink’ catchups, ours ended in the small hours with a drunken row about whether Robespierre regretted his actions. “Surely,” I slurred, “committing 17,000 to Madam Guillotine would have given him pause: think of all those severed heads leering at him.” My friend, the rationalist, laughed, “Oh naïve simpleton, it’s never about the people, it’s always about the idea.” She insisted the Robespierre, top monsieur at the ‘Committee of Public Safety’ went to the block convinced he’d pursued the correct public policy of: “speedy, severe and inflexible justice”.

Our conversation began in response to Freddie Sayers’s already much-commented-upon interview with one of the lockdown architects, Lee Cain, where Cain proudly asserts: “One of the great things he [Boris] did was deliver a lockdown and save a huge amount of lives.”

“But that is so demonstrably untrue,” I explained furiously to my chum. I took another glug and ranted about how, that day, I had seen a 19 year-old woman whose Mum kept her largely inside during lockdowns, who completely fell out of school, lost what few friends she had, has no qualifications and is now ‘not fit to work’. Like the headless corpses of The Terror, this young woman – and thousands of others like her who stopped bothering going to school – ought to stand in grim reproach to the lockdown policies championed by Lee Cain. “And nevermind the 7.6 million NHS waiting list…” I banged on. 

“Ah, but it’s never about the people,” my friend responded, “Only the idea.” She shook her head sadly and wondered why I hadn’t understood any of this before. 

And in that marvellous way the vino can help you see the veritas, I realised she was right. The idea of lockdown is understood by Mr. Cain to be correct, so no matter how many individuals were figuratively guillotined in pursuit of it, he sleeps easy.

My friend explained, as if to a class dunce, that ideas trump human suffering in all of the great horrors of our age: lockdown, transgenderism, infected blood, the Post Office scandal, Net Zero, EDI. It matters not a jot the numbers of individuals who are harmed in the unrolling of the ideas, those causing the harm will continue so long as the idea holds – or as in Robespierre and Boris – until the wickedly flawed idea consumes its own. 

Paula Vennells believed in the infallibility of her ‘systems’ over the false imprisonment of her sub-postmasters; health professionals believed in the technical superiority of plasma innovations over ill humans in front of them; Net Zero enthusiasts welcome decarbonisation no matter how many humans are thrown into fuel poverty, and so on. I once sat next to a No.10 policy adviser at a dinner party who said, “I mean, I love candle light, I don’t see why we can’t all return to it.”

So firmly and unswervingly held are the orthodox beliefs by the majority of politicians (lockdowns, Net Zero, the NHS, the Green Energy Revolution) that it is asks too much of them to accept that these ideologies are based on completely wrong premises.

I may have slumped so far over my wine glass I banged my head on the table. “But how can we ever convince them their ideas are rotten if they ignore the evidence of human suffering their beliefs cause?”

We had entered the drunken stage where we thought we could quite lucidly sort everything out.

“Oh that’s easy,” my friend said pouring another glass, “We just have to destroy the idea.”

Merely pointing out individual tragedies or presenting swishy data graphs, or engaging in long form podcasts to politely raise the idea that there may be other sides to the issue will not do. Instead, the rotten idea needs to be entirely dismantled. It needs to be pointed out consistently and persistently that such ideologies as Net Zero, EDI, Big State Welfare and the NHS, are based on completely wrong premises. They are wrong. They will never work. They harm people. We don’t respect alternative points of view; instead, we explain relentlessly and consistently why the ideas are wrong.

The Cass Review succeeded in ending despicable harm to confused teenagers because it dismantled the idea at the heart of transgenderism. Dr. Cass simply asserted the biological truth that there are two sexes. Without that alternative idea of gender, the whole edifice of medical interventions collapses. 

The same methodology applies to all of the other rotten ideas polluting public discourse. Reveal their inherent and fundamental error and let everything crumble. In Robespierre’s case: revolutionary purity is unachievable.

Our evening ended with a clumsy search for Robespierre’s conscience. He either shot himself before his execution or was involved in a pistol fight. Either way, Robespierre died with his lower jaw hanging off its hinges, screaming in agony.

Joanna Gray is a writer and confidence mentor.

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stewart
1 year ago

Pretty much what I’ve argued post after post. And many others on here,

  • There was no “pandemic;
  • COVID wasn’t especially dangerous and didn’t kill an extraordinary number of people;
  • And so vaccines didn’t actually save anyone because the disease was only killing the old and weak – just like the flu.;
  • There is no “global temperature”;
  • We don’t really know how much CO2 human activity sends into the atmosphere;
  • We don’t know if C02 changes temperature or vice-versa;
  • We don’t really know with any level of precision what drives climate;
  • Climate isn’t just temperature, it’s other things.;
  • The state doesn’t create jobs;
  • Official GDP is a wild guess;
  • Official Inflation is another wild guess;
  • GDP and inflation figures are summary statistics that, like global temperature, are actually meaningless and describe concepts that exist only in the minds of people, not in the real world;

Etc. etc. etc.

We live in a world of made up concepts and ideas that are used primarily to control and manipulate people.

If you argue on the basis of their concepts, you’ve lost, because they’re made up and so there is no way to prove or disprove them.

wokeman
wokeman
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

Exactly agree. Points on inflation especially so.

JohnK
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

While “the state doesn’t create jobs”, it does encourage markets that do. Whether that has a positive effect is another question, when one industry is promoted at the expense of another. However, they’re guessing at lots of things, at least so as to justify their existence.

Free Lemming
1 year ago
Reply to  JohnK

Highly recommend Finding the Money (Stephanie Melton). The theory used to explain the tax system was something I had to watch twice to get my head around. Very interesting, and will sit and make you question much of our current understanding of the purpose of money. Ultimately, it is a tool used to control the people to enact the will of the state. Following these economists logic it is the taxation system that creates the threat to earn the money the state needs you to give to them in order to fulfill the tasks the state wants you to do. It’s a very compelling argument.

stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Where did you manage to watch it?

Free Lemming
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

Official site is here – https://findingmoneyfilm.com/where-to-watch/. It’s Kelton not Melton btw, which autocorrect seems absolutely obsessed in changing it too!

varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  JohnK

John, it isn’t the job of government to create jobs but they can destroy jobs. Hundreds of thousands in the coal oil and gas business eg. Government are there to create the conditions where the economy can thrive and private individuals will create all the jobs. However the whole purpose of the Green Agenda is to hinder economic activity and take away the energy that drives it —coal oil and gas.

varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

There are some who would drag you off to the climate change gulag. You might only be released if you confess that “climate change is real and happening now”

stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

If I’m honest, the climate change gulag is what we are all in now. They’ve modified our laws, they have set up their policies, they’ve made it clear they will not be argued with and so we’re all on the NetZero train to a “carbon free” existence. (We are the carbon, they just haven’t got round to spelling it out for us just yet. )

varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

I have been harping on about this since about 2007 on different forums. The propaganda however is winning. ——-Try this little experiment and ask maybe 20 of your friends and family if they think there is a climate crisis and see how many agree and how many agree with you. I have done this many times and I find only about 5% agree with me.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

The only point I disagree on is that we actually do know about CO2; it follows temperature rises, it does not cause them. It also reaches a saturation level.

wokeman
wokeman
1 year ago

They enjoy the plebs suffering, in the same way a nasty child enjoys frying ants under a magnifying glass. Don’t underestimate what utter filth the establishment are.

EppingBlogger
1 year ago

Outfits like DS and Net Zero Watch and Migration Watch UK and many others have been dismantling the whole basis of three damaging policy ideas of our time. There are others doing the same to other false gods, TCW included. These have no effect and cannot change the policies because the elite knows it is right and the little people are wrong. The more serious thinkers among the elite promote these ideas regardless of their truth because they are following a path to a command economy and command society – otherwise known as socialism.

Free Lemming
1 year ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

Spot on.

stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

Very true.

In the end any arguments against their malignant, oppressive policies need to be accompanied with the assertion: … and if you force me to do these self harming things against my will I will fight you, to the death if need be.

wokeman
wokeman
1 year ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

Yep. And I sometimes wonder is it a waste of time as the state will do what it wants. I do however notice in the blue collar class there’s a general understanding that net zero etc are a con, if not a complete understanding that climate change is a swindle. I think ppl like Chris M are doing a sterling job of exposing the reality to the discontented white collar class, but we are a minority in our class.

DHJ
DHJ
1 year ago

Theresa May on her way out the door highlighting that some MP’s don’t work for us. Shame she didn’t address that when she was the PM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_xZrdoP5rQ

CircusSpot
CircusSpot
1 year ago
Reply to  DHJ

This from the cow who sobbed about the Country she loved which was certainly not the U.K. she had just shafted.

CircusSpot
CircusSpot
1 year ago

Humans are social animals and will do anything to belong to a group. Nut zero, transgender etc do not need to make sense only that you will be out of the social group if you do not follow them.It takes a strong person to reject the social group.

huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  CircusSpot

Absolutely. I have but perhaps two or three associates who understand, as we here at DS understand, what is happening.

Tragic.

varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  CircusSpot

People go mad in herds

Jon Garvey
1 year ago

One of the chilling things I’ve recently come to realise about cults (which, I’m sure, applies equally to the secular cults of our age), is that even when those in charge are driven by sociopathic disdain for people, or even when they are committing deliberate fraud or avaricious rackets, they somehow still believe in the ideology. They believe it even when they have made it up for gain – and clearly for that reason must have come to believe it in order to avoid cognitive dissonance with what they are selling to others. That is truly scary.

Jim Jones actually believed he was saving the 900 sheeples he induced to commit suicide, though he hilmself made up the claims of his own divinity – and I guess Michael Mann believes in his hockey stick, though he manufactured it from wholecloth. Maybe the same is true of the leaders who defrauded BLM funds, and billionaires funding Astroturf organisations to make money from disorder.

Often it seems more rational to believe in demonic deception more than such gross self-deception.

LionelMan
LionelMan
1 year ago

“Without that alternative idea of gender, the whole edifice of medical interventions collapses. ”

That’s why for them its always 4 steps forward for our 1 step back. Its done by changng the language. Like gender replacing sex. And transgender replacing transexual. And Discrimination replacing Unfair Discrimination. This cannot be accomplished without the Legacy MSM in America (which dictates everything) consistently and intentionally in unison promoting the change. Even education follows suit because they do just as the true opinion leaders say (it took decades for CRT to get MSM on their side, then it was everywhere overnight). So, we have two choices to avoid those progressive steps. We can either bust them up as an illegal info monopoly and racket or vigorously fight language change by NEVER using their words.in their context. But we do without knowing it and pay the price.

AndyLarge
AndyLarge
1 year ago

Congrats. You just discovered Marxism.

Phil Warner
Phil Warner
1 year ago

It cannot be as clear as human suffering as opposed to ideas. No more than dividing human understanding between the free will and determinism. The secret springs and principles that actuate human behaviour are unknown (Hume). We are blind and decide it is a combination of both. Which is the best we can do.

Iain McCausland
Iain McCausland
1 year ago

One of the ‘great horrors of our age’ missing from Joanna Gray’s list is the suffering currently being endured by the people of Gaza. If Joanna would like to know what the idea behind that is, it’s called Zionism.

Crouchback
Crouchback
1 year ago

‘Just destroy the ideology’. I think that happened eventually to destroy both communism and Nazism, but it wasn’t a quick or easy endeavour. Many eggs got broken into omelettes before the die-hards were convinced. Indeed many (most?) of the true-believers died still believing.

Robert Afia
Robert Afia
1 year ago

Ayatolla Khomeini once said “Don’t confuse me with the facts”. He knew a thing or two about power.

enouranois
enouranois
1 year ago

When the first governor of modern Greece wanted to get Greece eating potatoes he fenced off the first potato patch, stationed armed guards around it with orders to protect it from thieves. Greeks duly started stealing potatoes and as is well known they are now well entrenched in the diet of the average Greek (and not only). Joanna Gray does not even give a nod in the direction of the possibility that there may be/may have been sections of today’s elite (or “elite”) with such ideas in their mind, during the “pandemic” and lockdowns analogous (for better or worse) to those of Greece’s first governor Capodistrias. I have had such notions in my mind ever since seeing what the James Bond villain Klaus Schwab looks like and sounds like in “real life”. And that was just a first inkling. For me it is a joke because through lucky coincidence I escaped the horrors that beset many, perhaps a majority or at least large minority. 

Prickly Thistle
Prickly Thistle
1 year ago

It would be justice if the architects of all that is bad in the world right now were to die in agony. I doubt it will happen, though.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
1 year ago

I can simplify this:

Be the little boy who said “The Emperor is wearing no clothes”.

Terrific article, best I’ve read in a while.

iconoclast
1 year ago

Does cognitive dissonance have a part in this? It seems it might have from the definition below.

If so, can anyone explain please?

cognitive dissonance, the mental conflict that occurs when beliefs or assumptions are contradicted by new information. The unease or tension that the conflict arouses in people is relieved by one of several defensive maneuvers: they reject, explain away, or avoid the new information; persuade themselves that no conflict really exists; reconcile the differences; or resort to any other defensive means of preserving stability or order in their conceptions of the world and of themselves.

JohnStewart
JohnStewart
1 year ago

‘It matters not a jot the numbers of individuals who are harmed in the unrolling of the ideas, those causing the harm will continue so long as the idea holds.’ This is so true.And reinforced by the fact that the elite assume they are ‘the good guys’ A clear example of this has been what has been happening to transport in London in recent years. Low Traffic Neighbourhoods (LTNs) have been introduced by the green elite to create pleasant, ‘climate-friendly’ Edens (where incidentally most of the elite live) regarless of the extra traffic relocated onto already-busy roads bringing even more pollution and noise to the disproptionately poorer communities who live there, slowing down the buses (which the elite tend not to use) and creating more congestion for those whose livelihood depends on the cars:carers, cabbies, plumbers, many small business-people. The cycling elite (largely white, male, able-bodied, prosperous and oh so green) get their dedicated cycle lanes regardless if they replace bus lanes or curb the already-limited freedom to travel of blind and visually-impaired people who must cross a live cycle lane to reach the ‘floating bus stop’ from the pavement. And all in the name of the new god, ‘active travel’. The introduction… Read more »