Fanatics Call for Climate ‘Deniers’ to Be Jailed

Comedy environmentalist Jim Dale and Dale Vince have both suggested that climate ‘denial’ should be a criminal offence. It gets them clicks and attention on cable and mainstream news, and it plays into a wider push by green billionaire-funded lawfare outfits using the courts to enforce Net Zero industrial shutdown. But it begs the question: what are the climate ‘deniers’ actually denying? Dale is a climate campaigner who points to bad weather as evidence that the climate is collapsing before our very eyes. But the evidence suggests no such thing. Data since 2000 show that there has been no increase in extreme weather, no increase in loss of life and no increase in economic costs.

The Emergency Events Database (EM-DAT) is a U.S. Government-supported tracker of mass disasters as well as health and economic impacts. It lists 26,000 disasters worldwide from 1900 to the present day. Dr. Matthew Wielicki, a former Geology Professor, has compiled data from this source and they provide no evidence to support the claim that ‘extreme’ weather is on the rise.

Dr. Wielicki suggests that the recent decrease in perceived climate urgency and importance among the American public, especially young adults, as shown by the recent Monmouth University poll “may be influenced by an observable lack of escalation in the direct impacts of climate change”. Such data can lead to scepticism or reduced concern, he adds.

It seems that the lack of evidence drives the alarmists further and further away from scientific reality in their desperation to promote Net Zero. Last week’s absurd survey of 380 “top scientists” by the Guardian found climate modeller Ruth Cerezo-Mota wailing that it was almost impossible not to feel “hopeless and broken” after all the flooding, fires and droughts of the last three years. Biologist Camille Parmesan was so fearful she almost gave up what she called climate science 15 years ago to become a nightclub singer. Now she says all the scientists she works with are at the end of their rope “asking what the fuck do we have to do to get through to people how bad this really is”. Engineering Professor Jonathan Cullen states the climate emergency is already here because just 1°C of heating has “supercharged the planet’s extreme weather”. Millions of people have “very likely” died early as a result, he claimed. Lorraine Whitmarsh is an ‘environmental psychologist’ at the University of Bath, and worries about the future her children are inheriting since climate change is an “existential threat” to humanity.

The Guardian article was written by Damian Carrington, one of the green billionaire-funded lobby group Covering Climate Now’s three journalists of the year in 2023. This operation pumps out ready-to-publish climate catastrophe copy to media outlets worldwide. Carrington polled over 800 lead authors or review editors of all reports from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) since 2018. He received replies from 380 authors, but as with all IPCC (and Guardian) reports, the definition of ‘climate scientists’ is very broad. Carrington describes Professor Lisa Schipper as an “expert on climate vulnerability”. Schipper notes that she is “particularly interested in socio-cultural dimensions of vulnerability including gender, culture and religion, as well as structural issues related to power, justice and equity”. Ralph Sims of Massey University says extreme weather events will escalate and there will be environmental refugees by the millions. Sims’s first job in academia was as a lecturer in agricultural machinery.

Meanwhile, back to the science, and the problem – the giant elephant in the room no less – is that the IPCC gives almost no credence to talk of a climate crisis based on observable bad weather patterns in the past and looking forward to the end of this century.

The above table published in the latest IPCC assessment report reveals this clearly. It shows there is little or no evidence that the following have been, or will be by 2100, affected by human-caused climate change: river floods, heavy rain and pluvial flooding, landslides, droughts (all types), fire ‘weather’, severe wind storms, tropical cyclones, sand and dust storms, heavy snowfall and ice storms, hail, snow avalanche, coastal flooding and erosion, and maritime heatwaves.

Far from living in a time of climate collapse, we appear to be enjoying a benign spell in an interglacial period. A little extra carbon dioxide, rescuing the Earth from possibly dangerous denudation, and a gentle rise of 1°C in temperature from the Little Ice Age, has boosted plant growth around the world. Evidence continues to be produced showing substantial CO2 greening of the planet including desert areas. A recent paper Chen et al. 2024 found that CO2 greening had actually accelerated over the last two decades.

The people spinning the tale of climate collapse – some of them advocating jail time for dissenters – are hysterical, but deadly serious. Ask Gianluca Alimonti, an Italian Physics Professor, whose paper stating a climate emergency was not supported by the available data, was recently retracted by Springer Nature after a year-long campaign by activist scientists and journalists, including Graham Readfearn of the Guardian. The Alimonti paper, which also included the work of two other physics professors, found that rainfall intensity and frequency was stationary in many parts of the world, and the same was true of U.S. tornadoes. Other meteorological categories including natural disasters, floods, droughts and ecosystem productivity showed “no clear positive trend of extreme events”. 

Only a fool would consider arguing that climate contrarian scientists should be sent to jail, as Dale did with Andrew Doyle last Sunday on GB News’s Free Speech Nation. Alas, the transcript of Dale’s comments does little to clarify his argument – it’s just word salad gibberish for the most part. But his intention is clear. Time for ‘deniers’, whatever they are supposed to be denying, to be marched off to jail. The sad thing is that he is not alone – Dale says it is “common sense”, which, as Doyle observed, is the refrain of every tyrant in history who’s wanted to jail his opponents.

Chris Morrison is the Daily Sceptic’s Environment Editor.

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RTSC
RTSC
1 year ago

Silencing, jailing and executing “dissenters” has been the policy of tyrants throughout history.

Expressing the desire to jail climate “deniers” is proof that they know they are losing …. because, at last, the argument is being heard.

Not least because of people like Chris Morrison. Well done 🙂

stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  RTSC

I agree.

The main weapon of gangsters and thugs is intimidation. And it’s usually enough.

The escalation to violence only really works as an extreme.form.of intimidation, not towards the victim of the violence but towards everyone else who is watching. It works only as a warning to everyone else.

Like the assassination attempt on Fico. It’s really a warning to Orban and other potential “populist” leaders. We can get to you so don’t cross us, stay in line.

But if that doesn’t work, they have no where left to go. All out war, I suppose, if they can instigate it. Otherwise they’re done.

I doubt that they’ll go as far as instigate a civil war between climate loons and people who don’t want to be subjected to tyrannical climate policies. If we stand up to their intimidation however violent we’ll win. Eventually.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

True….As dumb as some middle classes are, they like their property, travel and social standing. And they will be hit the hardest.

For a fist full of roubles

Well I think climate contrarians should be hung over a fire in an iron maiden until they recant and admit that the climate catastrophe is caused entirely by man.
That is how they convinced dissenters in the middle ages, and it clearly worked as evidenced by the pronouncements of flat-earthers Dale and Vince.

varmint
1 year ago

Back then this new fangled science from the likes of Galileo and Copernicus challenged the authority of the Church so they had to be silenced. It is a bit ironic now that the new fangled science is now the King and anyone who disagrees with that has to now be silenced.

RW
RW
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

Even I can do math with Excel! is not science.

soundofreason
soundofreason
1 year ago
Reply to  RW

Yep. Everyone can

huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  RW

What’s Excel?

soundofreason
soundofreason
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

A computer program that was invented to demonstrate GIGO. One of the fundamentals of all computer modelling.

Garbage In, Garbage Out.

GIGO. A catchy name but it’s a shame it’s in USAese.

huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  soundofreason

Thank you.

RW
RW
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

A computer program developed (or acquired and sold) by the company founded by Billy the Gates.

huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  RW

So it’s crap then?

Hoppy Uniatz
Hoppy Uniatz
1 year ago

But, but, the Earth did use to be flat, but then the Science changed.

soundofreason
soundofreason
1 year ago
Reply to  Hoppy Uniatz

That’s why maps are flat – they wouldn’t do that otherwise.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago

Hence the Metal band. People feared the Iron Maiden the most. A helmet with spikes closing in on you is the last thing you see!

GroundhogDayAgain
1 year ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Breaking on the wheel was particularly nasty. Take a sinner and a massive cart wheel, entwine the sinner’s limbs forcefully around and between the spokes, intentionally breaking bones. Then leave them there. A Twitter ban seems kind in comparison.

Lockdown Sceptic
1 year ago

Last week a BBC reporter was saying how hot its was while wearing at least two coats and a jumper.

The old bat
1 year ago

They keep saying how hot it was last year. Where? If they are referring to the UK, it was a cool and pretty wet summer according to my records, apart from a warm spell in June.

RW
RW
1 year ago
Reply to  The old bat

Was the first summer since 2011 were I was forced to cancel some events I had planned to do with parents while they were here because it was raining too heavily. But the clue is in the summer in the northern hemisphere. Never on the southern hemisphere becasue they can’t factor in the temperatures of the largest desert on earth there. But this really disproves the whole nonsense because if a phenomenon was really global, it wouldn’t restrict itself to half of the earth all the time.

soundofreason
soundofreason
1 year ago
Reply to  RW

…if a phenomenon was really global, it wouldn’t restrict itself to half of the earth all the time.

There was this article in the DS a few days ago which offers an explanation. Unfortunately for the climate catastrophists it shows that what little climate change there is isn’t man-made – and it points to regular cycles rather than catastrophic ‘tipping points’..

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  The old bat

They said April was the hottest on record. I don’t remember it being that hot, even got the log burner going one day.

The old bat
1 year ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Yes, again, where? I’ll bet it wasn’t the UK! In fact, we went to Spain (Med) in late April and the weather was cold and chilly (and very wet) there as well. We might just as well have stayed in the UK. I have friends who abandoned a 3 week camper van holiday in Portugal in April as the weather was so foul. Was this hot weather in some tropical area, do you think?

varmint
1 year ago

According to officialdom the global temperature (which there is no such thing) has risen by about 1C centigrade since 1860. No human being can notice this in their lifetime. It would be like asking someone to notice if there has been a 1% increase in rain over the last 150 years. So what people perceive to be global warming is all in their mind. They are influenced by what they see on their 6 O’clock News, or what they hear from politicians talking about fighting climate change, or from idiots like Jim dale. ——No one can see or feel climate change. Anyone who thinks they can is either politically motivated or they are just easily influenced.

varmint
1 year ago

It is about time we had an article about this extreme climate tyranny that tries to silence all dissent and for some years now many of the rabid climate scumbags have wanted to jail people for disagreeing with what is supposed to be “science”. Who do they think they are the “Climate Change Inquisition? We also see this cretinous goon climate nut job Jim Dale, and that other twerp from the Independent all the time on GB News spouting evidence free drivel and who go mostly unchallenged because Eammon Holmes and most of the Daytime presenters know little about the subject. Not only does Dale think he knows every single thing that happens regarding weather is caused by humans, he also knows all the solutions. He would have us stuff every crevice in our house with foam, rip out our gas central heating, stop going on holiday, stop eating meat, stop driving, and he would be happy if all survived on a sandwich on Ruskoline washed down with a pint of steam, but only if the steam was made using a solar panel. There is virtually nothing these people say is true. Storms floods droughts wild fires are not getting… Read more »

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

Maybe Neil Oliver will devote his show to this considering they want to ‘Jail’ sceptics. He should get the ex Lib Dem MP Lempic Opec. He used to be a regular on GBN but it’s taken a nose dive since they axed Steyn.

varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Oliver does do a good job, but like everyone on GB News that actually challenges any current Liberal Progressive dogma he will need to mind his P’s and Q’s or the Regulator (The body that protects the dogma from scrutiny) will have him “Steyned”.

huxleypiggles
1 year ago

What exactly is a “collapsing climate?” It has always baffled me.

godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Rainfall?

varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I think that is when all the rain, the wind and the clouds falls down on top of us and we have to run for cover. Jim Dale thinks to avoid this we should all get a heat pump and stop eating beef. —-What total half wit.

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  varmint

Half wit? You are too generous.

varmint
1 year ago

I have called him much worse, and although name calling should not be the default, it is important that scum like this are not a given a voice that mostly goes unchallenged as if they are arbiters of truth when they are simply eco Socialist climate activists and their world view is causing the western world to slide into impoverishment, with junk science as the excuse.

RW
RW
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

No idea, but if it’s collapsing, it must surely be dangerous! Which is the whole point of the term.

NeilParkin
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Its a phenomena that 85% of the worlds governments don’t believe is happening. Based purely on the assumption that they love their children too, wouldn’t this at least give you some thoughts about looking again at the data, and see if your theory lines up with the facts.?

Not if you’re in a doomsday cult, obviously..Then, you simply change the facts to fit the theory.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

And they don’t live by example, just like MPs with the Covid psyop. Cheese & Wine anyone!

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Landslide. But if a farmer dredges the river saving the village from getting flooded, like in Herefordshire, the council with fine him! Just who do they work for!

The old bat
1 year ago

Any sensible person, with provable facts to hand, can easily show how someone has perhaps been wrong about something. I am sure it has happened to all of us at some time, usually with the response “well, I never knew that was the case, thanks for pointing that out.” Just a friendly chat, no animosity, job done. Instead of threatening people with jail, why don’t the proponents of AGW present the facts in a clear, consise manner, so that we can be enlightened? Well, they can’t, can they? There are no actual facts to prop up their hypothesis. Instead they get hysterical and show you footage of a flood, snow etc as proof. And we are the stupid ones, eh?

varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  The old bat

Because they are only interested in facts that seem to support their eco socialism masquerading as science, while they ignore facts that don’t support it, and there are very many.

Dinger64
1 year ago

Not enough jails!
Why not just dust off the medieval rack and stretch some sense into em?
They’ll be begging to admit climate armageddon is real!

jeepybee
1 year ago

I was called a climate denier by someone, when I was talking about how there have been documented mini ice ages and warmer periods in the last 2000 years and beyond, and that what we’re seeing is just the cycle.

The irony was that she didn’t believe me…thus being a ‘denier’ herself.

huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  jeepybee

😀 😀 😀

RW
RW
1 year ago

When the problem is that it needs to be ‘communicated’ to people how bad something really is, than, because it isn’t bad as all. That’s just Increase the perceived level of personal threat by hard-hitting emotional messaging again, or, more mundanely put, by extreme lying — Look him in the vaccine and say face masks aren’t real! That’s all what these people are doing. We’re are already being told that This year will be the hottest summer of all times! and presumably, this will mainly manifest itself as Unusually warm rain. Doesn’t matter at all. The substance of the earth is boiling and 99.9% of all scientists agree that they’re transvictims of climate change. And discriminating against transvictims by claiming that they’re really doing bloody well and know this themselves is a hate crime.

allanplaskett
allanplaskett
1 year ago

‘Only a fool would consider arguing that climate contrarian scientists should be sent to jail, as Dale did…’ 

Dale’s being a fool, though no doubt very true, is not a sufficient explanation for his aggressiveness. Like Packham, who sadly for him has a history of depression, he is full of pent-up aggression, possibly a Freudian legacy of some sort, which must be pointed outwards, or else it points inwards at himself.

CircusSpot
CircusSpot
1 year ago
Reply to  allanplaskett

I think JD and CP will be encouraged by their Agents to keep up their nonsense and hoover up all the money they can before the green scams unravel.

Castorp
Castorp
1 year ago

Μολων λαβε.

Marcus Aurelius knew
Reply to  Castorp

Θα προτιμούσα να πεθάνω στα πόδια μου παρά να ζήσω στα γόνατά μου

godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
1 year ago
Reply to  Castorp

Το χόβερκραφτ μου είναι γεμάτο χέλια

Marcus Aurelius knew
Reply to  godknowsimgood

οι Σπαρτιάτες δεν είχαν χόβερκραφτ

allanplaskett
allanplaskett
1 year ago

Izvinite me! Kazete Englez.

JXB
JXB
1 year ago

M y not be a bad thing.

Then the prosecution would have to prove, beyond reasonable doubt, that:

1) the Earth’s climate system was heating at an unprecedented rate;
2) the Earth’s climate system was changing at a rate that was observable in real time
3) that it is possible to predict future climate state

It should be interesting.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  JXB

Mann vs Steyn with the Hocky stick debacle showed that the science or facts are of little importance. It was all about sending a message.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago

No THEY are the  “existential threat” to humanity!

varmint
1 year ago

I am very disappointed with GB News for bringing on this twerp Jim Dale almost every day of the week as if he was the authority on everything when he is really just a rabid climate activist. He mostly will go unchallenged except by the likes of Eammon Holmes or Isabel Webster who by their inability to interrogate Dale on the nonsense he talks reveals they know virtually nothing about this issue.

RW
RW
1 year ago
Reply to  varmint

I don’t know the guy but my guess would be he’s there to provide balance à la Ofcom and therefore, must be allowed to pontificate unchallenged because otherwise, it’s not really balanced.

varmint
1 year ago
Reply to  RW

Balance would be challenging the stuff that is clearly not true. eg “Renewables are now cheaper than fossil fuels”. ——-On a level playing field without government subsidy the cheapest way to produce electricity is COAL. Then ofcourse you can challenge all the projections from climate models that people like Dale keep calling science. A model full of speculations and assumptions is not science. Infact almost everything coming from the mouths of activists is either a smidgeon of the truth or false, and balance would be to challenge everything they say by asking for EVIDENCE.

Covid-1984
Covid-1984
1 year ago

It snows in December – climate change.
It does not snow – climate change.
It rains – climate change.
It does not rain – climate change.
The weather does nothing much – climate change.

marebobowl
marebobowl
1 year ago

Jail for the deniers. Sound familiar? Isn’t this what some wanted done to the covid deniers?

T. Prince
1 year ago

I honestly believe that even jail time wouldn’t be enough for ‘deniers’ for these foot stamping psychopaths and that they would happily call for capital punishment if it meant getting their own twisted way.