Was Coleridge Right When he Claimed Women Care More About What’s Good Than What’s True? And is That a Good Reason to Exclude Them From the Garrick?

Everyone is contributing their opinion about the Garrick. Is the Garrick able to admit women as members? If not, ought it to do so on principle? If principle is unforthcoming, then should it do so as a result of the intrusive harassment of the Guardian newspaper? It is tempting to make mock, as the whole debate is a bit of a swirl in a latte mug. But the world à la mode is always a bit like this. Teacups storm; then twitter storms; somewhere or other there is reputation-destruction or old fashioned scapegoating, and the world continues on its way. 

The Garrick, if I understand the story, requires a two-thirds majority to change the rules; but some lawyers have counselled that the rules already permit women to be admitted as members. What is odd is that the issue has arisen in an atmosphere of moral affront and certainty worthy of Miller’s Crucible. Sting will resign. He will not stand so close to anyone refusing to admit women as members. So will Stephen Fry. He will use the Garrick as his washpot instead of Moab. So will Mark Knopfler, on the grounds that the argument wouldn’t be convincing enough if only one Geordie musician chimed in. Why aye, there have to be two of them – and in harmony. They don’t want the Garrick to be money for nothing and the chicks for free: they want the chicks to pay their fees too. 

This – the Garrick – is a thorny subject. Boris Johnson wrote about it in the Mail, though he seems to have written his piece with a certain someone looking over his shoulder. Everyone in the world knows that Boris has two hands, neither of which knows what the other is doing unless it reads the other’s copy. One hand wrote: 1. Don’t force the Garrick to admit women as members. The other hand wrote: 2. The Garrick should admit women as members. Let us try to be of sterner stuff: which, in the first instance, means writing without imagining that the thorn in the flesh is looking over one’s shoulder. 

As usual, the only way to make sense of this is to relate it to the longest possible history. A few centuries ago there was nothing wrong with men spending time with men. The world was full of monasteries, colleges, guilds, clubs, associations: and latterly the great London clubs, which were formidable in the 19th Century. The Reform was founded in 1836 – it admitted women in 1981. The Athenaeum was founded in 1824 – it admitted women in 2002. The Carlton was founded in 1832 – it admitted women in 2008. The Garrick was founded in 1831 – and it hasn’t caught up with the fashion yet. Suddenly, the Guardian has got out its moral spray can, and everyone from Simon Case downwards has had to signal his particularly conformist virtue by resigning or threatening to resign or resigning.

I have no axe to grind. I am not a member of a club. Peter Avery, an old Persianist, once suggested that I should join a club. And David Barchard, former FT correspondent to Turkey, was surprised when I said I had nowhere to stay in London. They were clearly fooled by my massive forehead, respectable dress and severe deportment into thinking I was someone who would value such things. Well, not so. I was never very clubbable: I was in fact ‘his own man’, as was sometimes said disapprovingly in my wake. But there is a principle at stake, as usual, and I suppose it is always worth offering a word for the sake of a principle, even an obsolete one. 

The question is whether all our institutions are – to use the now famous Gramscian phrase – to suffer from the long march of women through them. And whether – rare question (noblesse oblige requires its not being asked in mixed company) – it is good for all our institutions to have the hand of the gentler sex on the keys, the till and the rulebook. Let us be sceptical – maybe it is, maybe it is not – and let us also marvel at a world in which everyone, including our great celebrities of the 1980s, suddenly find they all agree on the most pressing controversy of the age.

The principle is to do with truth. Like many others, I think ‘the truth’ has always had a vexed status in the world: but that it seemed to count for very little, very suddenly, in 2020. Why was this? Well, one obsolete possibility is that it had something to do with all the women in the room. 

On August 6th, 1831, Samuel Taylor Coleridge said the following:

There is the love of the good for the good’s sake, and the love of the truth for the truth’s sake. I have known many, especially women, love the good for the good’s sake; but very few, indeed, and scarcely one woman, love the truth for the truth’s sake. Yet without the latter, the former may become, as it has a thousand times been, the source of persecution of the truth – the pretext and motive of inquisitorial cruelty and party zealotry.

This is fascinating. It might be true, or not true – even though it might not be considered good. Discuss. But one cannot discuss it unless it is said. And one can imagine it being said in the historic Garrick. But one cannot imagine it being said in the current Garrick or the Garrick of the future if Stephen Fry, Gordon Sumner, John Simpson and Mark Knopfler are to have their way. 

Samuel Taylor Coleridge was rather clubbable: he liked talking at great length, though, according to Madame de Stäel, he lacked a capacity for conversation: being a monologist. (Read Coleridge’s Table Talk, which is incredible.) D.H. Lawrence, on the other hand, was not particularly clubbable. He visited Cambridge once, met Russell and Keynes, and thought of spiders. He married Frieda and spent most of his life in exile with her – Italy, Australia, New Mexico. He considered the most fundamental relation in the universe to be the one between a man and woman in marriage.

But even though this was the case, he had a hankering after something else. Birkin’s last words in Women in Love are “I don’t believe that” when Ursula tells him that the love of a woman is enough. And in Kangaroo, the female character cries when the male talks about sharing activity with men: “Her greatest grief was when he turned away from their personal human life of intimacy to this impersonal business of male activity.” This impersonal business of male activity. Notice the binary here: Lawrence associated masculinity with impersonality and femininity with personality. Discuss. Or, let’s say, if you are reading this silently (and not out loud over oysters and champagne to the women in your clubroom), Consider.

I suppose I have to be provocative and suggest that if there is such a thing as ‘impersonal male activity’, and that if this is valuable, then it may be difficult for this to be understood in a modern world in which women are marching at length through our institutions and revising the rules of those institutions in relation to an inability to respect or understand ‘impersonal male activity’. Now, this ‘impersonal male activity’ might be a bit foolish, like the braggarting of boys. Peter Martland, the historian, once told me that Corpus Christi College, Cambridge changed immediately as soon as women were admitted. The dining hall had formerly been a place at which more food was transported by sporting projection than by tray: now it became a genial and genteel café of chivalry and courtship. But sometimes this ‘impersonal male activity’ might be extremely important: especially if Coleridge is right and men will occasionally consider setting aside the ‘good’ for the sake of the ‘true’. 

COVID-19 was an exquisite exhibition of the politics of the (apparent) ‘good’ triumphing over any concern with ‘truth’. And when I say ‘triumphing’ I am alluding to the grotesque display of glorification, intimidation and humiliation which was found in the original Roman triumph. See Mary Beard for details. There were women who were critical of the pandemic protocols (not, however, Mary Beard): the ones I admired were Laura Dodsworth, for investigating ‘nudge’, and Laura Perrins, for unlimited moral scorn. But even they were better at observing what was ‘not good’ rather than what was ‘true’. I imagine that many readers of the Daily Sceptic relied on podcasts – and mostly podcasts involving conversation between men. As everyone knows, the BBC has long insisted that there is no such thing as broadcastable conversation between men. There must be a woman in the room. Is it not significant that there was, and is, a taste (at least among men) for conversation between men – conversation with risk of boredom, since it has impersonality in it, but conversation also with risk of truth? London Calling, the Lotus Eaters, Louder with Crowder offered male conversation and something like a proper scale of values, not wholly created by the situation. For me, the most significant encounters of the pandemic were Delingpole-and-Yeadon and Weinstein-and-Malone: they convinced me that everything was worse than I thought (as if the surface of reality was not bad enough): and, in those conversations, even if the truth was not known, the truth was spoken about as if it mattered more than anything else.

I doubt the fuss about the Garrick is of any importance. There is a great moral fear of not being ‘egalitarian’ among our elites. And so they are falling like dominoes or playing cards: pretending that their collapse is a consequence of morality. But there is a principle at stake, and even if this principle is not one anyone is likely to defend or even consider nowadays – on the grounds that it is ‘not good’ to consider it – there is an awkward question about whether our civilisation is not in danger for yet one more reason, which is that in our institutions we seem disinclined to let men talk about anything without a woman somehow being involved.

What is truth? Does anyone care about truth? Is there a possibility that truth has been completely mechanised into ‘my truth’? If so, this means that when we talk about ‘truth’ nowadays we are actually talking about something that is ‘good’ in some respect – possibly only good for the speaker, though admittedly also possibly objectively good – but certainly not ‘true’.

Dr. James Alexander is a Professor in the Department of Political Science at Bilkent University in Turkey.

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EppingBlogger
1 year ago

Surely the answer has anwatys been easy. If you want to join a club which admits women than find one and apply. If the issue doesn’t bother you apply to which ever clubs you laike and which you can afford to join, and which wants you.

Like the author, I’m not a member of a club. My wife is and she invites me along.

DHJ
DHJ
1 year ago

A subject so thorny even Boris Johnson wrote about it. I’m sure there’s thornier subjects the former PM could be reflecting on.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago
Reply to  DHJ

And he should be looking over his shoulder for other reasons, just like that cu@t Hand-cock and that slimy little cu@t Starmer.

Mogwai
1 year ago

If this is the last article of the day, which seems to be the routine on here of a weekend, it’s a bit strange the DS team would prioritise ‘space-fillers’, such as pieces about using your phone on the loo and an Enid Blyton story over the outcome of the London Mayor election, as well as what’s been going on in local elections. No offense to the authors of those articles but I’m sure we can do better than this and there’s articles of more substance and relevance that can be featured on this site.
A slow news day if ever I saw one.🧐

wokeman
wokeman
1 year ago

I note men aren’t queuing up to be in the WI. Men need their own environment to frankly get away from her indoors and to retain any vestige of masculinity. Houses where men live are almost always the domain of women, anyone pretending otherwise just isn’t being honest. Men generally degenerate in to weaklings when ever women are added to a previously male only environment. The stats on boys only education are totally clear, frankly I do not doubt the same is true in business having seen previously sound men adopting woowoo under harassment from HR females. It’s not the fault of women that men behave like effing idiots around them, but they should at least realise what is happening and not trying and crowd male only spaces which serve a useful purpose.

Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  wokeman

I couldn’t be less interested in this Garrick club because I know I’ll never go there even if they did change the rules to allow women entry. I’m very much a ”If it ain’t broke, why fix it?” person. If this is because of the toxic woke agenda that these changes may be implemented then that is seriously a lame reason to do so. I think somebody posted previously that there are women-only clubs in existence, so what’s the big issue and why now? If there are men-only clubs then let them get on with it if it’s worked well for both patrons and the establishment itself all these years. As long as the ladies have somewhere to hang out, which caters for whatever their single-sex needs are then everybody’s happy aren’t they? But honestly, I couldn’t give two hoots about what toffs get up to socially, so this is a non-issue of zero relevance for me.

wokeman
wokeman
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I basically agree. I had a friend in banking who was a member at muirfield. There were no lady members but wives of members were able to essentially play for free. None of this nuance was reported in the media, the wives of members were extremely peed off at the change. The media however just went with the male golfers hate all women line.

rocky44
rocky44
1 year ago
Reply to  wokeman

I was reliably informed that many years ago Muirfield had a sign up in the clubhouse saying “No dogs, no women”.

Grim Ace
Grim Ace
1 year ago
Reply to  wokeman

Women want access to males. They always insinuate themselves into male spaces. No matter what age, a woman is always on the look out for a better and higher stats male.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
1 year ago

Women have “Women Only” swimming sessions, gyms, seance’s (yes, really, my wife and daughter went to a few) and numerous emporiums. Admittedly, those sacred spaces are under threat from men in dresses but, hey, they likely voted Blue or Red Socialist so what did they expect to happen?
Meanwhile, what do men have? On Facebook The Dull Mens Club where women play a major part. Mens Sheds. Shreaky female commentators who all seem to have London accents on every TV football match and on radio.
In particular we see the White Heterosexual Male ridiculed as useless on every TV advert apart from the ones where The Seriously Great Male is black and The Perfect Woman is dyed blonde. Some would claim that it is all racist nonsense but turn on and tune in.
Think “Flash! Ah Ah!” and who is the prat who can’t clean the floor?
It’s time we all, male and female, stood up and said “Piss off!”. Why do we have to simply accept this Socialist diatribe that far more resembles a latrine than a sensible point of view?

Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

The messaging we’re all bombarded with ( once subliminal, now most certainly overtly ) that you describe reminds me a lot of the military-grade PsyOp during the Scamdemic. Because it’s obviously psychologists that are behind this once again, isn’t it? Whether it’s via the TV ads and programmes, movies at the cinema/Netflix, ads on billboards and in the mags, it’s all just as you describe and it’s now just completely blatant, compared to say, just 10 years ago. I think a big part of it is to reprogramme our minds and make us more amenable to accepting our new, more ‘diverse’ and multicultural society. They’re replacing the white, indigenous population all over the West and they want us to just lie back and let it all happen, putting up minimal resistance, while it’s drummed into our subconscious that it is all perfectly normal. A type of brain-training or social conditioning, basically.

huxleypiggles
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Absolutely agree Mogs 👍

T. Prince
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

And have you noticed that all the “adults” on those ads usually act like toddlers, trying and prattling about like its playtime at kindergarten!

T. Prince
1 year ago
Reply to  T. Prince

“Yaying” not “trying”

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago

Son of co-founder slams Islam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnrRLdMagr8

stewart
1 year ago

This is like the jabs. My body my choice until not.

Women’s only spaces but not for men.

T. Prince
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

Or “do as I say and not what I do”

Monro
1 year ago

This is a splendid article. Thank you.

Arthur Balfour was on the money:

‘Nothing matters very much and most things don’t matter at all.’

DS99
1 year ago

To be fair to Boris Johnson (and it’s not something I really want to do) it isn’t incompatible to believe that the Garrick should admit women as members but shouldn’t be forced to do so? Personally, I’m more than happy for men to continue meeting in men only spaces/clubs (and I strongly suspect most of their wives are in favour of this too and have zero intention of joining, if allowed to do so).

Heretic
Heretic
1 year ago

Women must be called out for rank hypocrisy.
What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, as they say…

London’s Best Women’s Members’ Clubs To Join This year (countryandtownhouse.com)

London clubs for women only – Bing Maps

London’s best women-only members clubs | Tatler

sskinner
1 year ago
Reply to  Heretic

Why the down votes? Seems a reasonable request.

Heretic
Heretic
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

Oh well, I never worry about down votes. Freedom of Speech & Downvoting! 🙂

T. Prince
1 year ago
Reply to  Heretic

I like to picture them as Gollum, skulking in the dark, too cowardly to comment.

T. Prince
1 year ago
Reply to  T. Prince

And there you are Gollum!

T. Prince
1 year ago
Reply to  sskinner

But these people aren’t reasonable…

transmissionofflame
1 year ago

The title of the article had changed to something a bit more “catchy”

Coleridge may have been correct with the caveat “on average” – but honestly who cares? Can’t we argue about ideas and not become as obsessed as the left with identity politics?

As to the Garrick, again who cares? If clubs exclude you, form your own, and leave other people alone to choose the private environment they prefer.

T. Prince
1 year ago

I wouldn’t want to join a club where the members don’t want you

Bettina
Bettina
1 year ago

Surely the whole point of a club is that the members can decide who should be admitted. As a woman I don’t feel affronted by the fact that there are clubs to which I would not be admitted because I am a woman – because they are social. Those members of the Garrick who don’t want to belong to a men only club obviously joined the wrong club – go elsewhere.

Grim Ace
Grim Ace
1 year ago

I would not join any club that admitted women as members.
Coleridge was utterly right about women. They are destroyers of civilisation. There was a very strong reason why women had never been given any poltical power or influence in the past (at least not without many, strong, male advisers and/or husbands’) Women value niceness and security over truth and common sense.