The NatCon Siege: Why is the New Elite so Terrified of a Bunch of Middle-Aged Men Spouting Mainstream, Fairly Anodyne Right-of-Centre Policy Positions?

In The Inheritors, his 1955 follow-up to The Lord the Flies, William Golding masterfully and disturbingly paints a picture of a world on the very eve of its dissolution. The main characters, who it is obliquely implied are the last of their species, are a band of neanderthals who find themselves swept away by the coming of a new dawn – the arrival of homo sapiens. A fresh reality – one that encompasses both a higher culture and greater savagery than they can possibly imagine – is on the cusp of emergence, and nothing will be the same again.

Our times have taken on something of that aspect. The world which most of us grew up in – the world of agreeing to disagree, of reasoned debate, of ‘It’s a free country’, of mutual respect and civility – is disappearing. All manner of disconcerting opportunities seem to be arising in its stead. And the process of replacement threatens to be quite rapid. “How do you lose your civilisation?” as Hemingway might have asked. “Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.”

The threatened cancellation of NatCon 2024 by various mayors in Brussels provides quite a stark illustration of the suddenness with which things are now moving. A decade or so ago (I am tempted even to say even five years ago) it would have been basically inconceivable to imagine that people spouting mainstream, fairly anodyne right-of-centre policy positions (the family is a good thing, marriage is a good thing, immigration should not be a complete free-for-all, religion is worthy of respect) would be being characterised as too dangerous to be allowed to speak in public. Yet now here we are: various public authorities in a European capital – admittedly quite an oddball, sui generis place – trying to shut down what is in the end a fairly humdrum opportunity for traditional conservatives to vent for a day or two together about the world going to the dogs before traipsing home again with a bad hangover. NatCon is many things (I was at the London one last year as an observer), but it is certainly not a forum for plotting by nefarious far-right conspirators bent on the restoration of 1930s style fascism. Yet we appear to have come to a position at which mainstream politicians are not actually able to tell the difference between one thing and the other – or at least have so little respect for the concept of civil discourse that flagrant mischaracterisation of the views of one’s opposition is considered a legitimate tactic for political victory.

There are I think four observations to be made about the whole affair.

The first is the marked insecurity and even frailty of the people that Matt Goodwin has aptly labelled the ‘new elite’. People who have the courage of their convictions, and who are confident that they are in the right, don’t particularly worry about people disagreeing, and don’t feel the need to shut down debate – indeed, they welcome it. For all that our public sphere is characterised by strict adherence to orthodoxy, then, it is obvious that that orthodoxy rests on very shallow foundations.

The second, related observation is that politics is becoming oppositional, and it is not difficult to see why. In a society in which people feel themselves to be bonded together by pre-political loyalty (to the nation, a religion, shared values, etc.) they make the effort to accept differences of opinion and rub along. But people across much of the West no longer live in such societies. Instead, they choose their loyalties precisely on the basis of political ideals which in many senses span borders – ironically, this is true both of what people call the ‘woke’ Left and the NatCon-style dissident Right (which insists on a kind of international nationalism). The result is that people no longer seem to want to rub along, but to crush their political enemies. Belgian mayors, then, don’t want to agree to disagree with anyone. They want to stamp NatCon out.

The third is the irony of the disjuncture between the sheer scale of ambition evident in the claims that our governments typically nowadays make (that they can save us from disease and from climate change, that they can alleviate poverty, that they can make us healthier, that they can decide what is true and what is not, etc.), and the vapidity and incompetence of the actual human beings who are engaged in the practice of government. What on Earth were these Belgian mayors thinking? If they had wanted NatCon 2024 to fail, the best thing to do would have been to politely ignore it, and thereby turn it into a damp squib. Instead, through their hamfisted efforts to cancel it, they have given the event, and the nascent movement surrounding it, a veritable bank vault’s worth of free publicity. Not only that, but it is free publicity which precisely vindicates a significant chapter in the entire narrative told by that movement, which is that ‘woke’ technocrats are trying to crush free speech. How profoundly stupid. (Indeed, one has to wonder whether the decision to host the event in Brussels was not a bit of a masterstroke by NatCon’s organisers in light of what has happened.)

The fourth and final thing to observe is that this is all getting dangerous. The picture that emerges is one of an incipient hegemony, which is increasingly intolerant of opposition, but which is at the same time very brittle, subject to bouts of histrionics, and not very competent or capable of thinking things through. Does that sound to you like a recipe for good, calm, strategically sensible government? It doesn’t to me. Rather, it sounds like all of the ingredients are present for a period of serious and sustained political instability. Buckle your seatbelts, then – it’s going to be an exciting ride.

Dr. David McGrogan is an Associate Professor of Law at Northumbria Law School. You can subscribe to his Substack – News From Uncibal here.

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huxleypiggles
1 year ago

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/join-the-lighthouse-keepers-who-dared-challenge-covid-dictatorship/

Apologies to Dr McGrogan for this Off-T dump but could DS subscribers please jump on and add a signature if possible?

D J
D J
1 year ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Thankyou. Already done.

RW
RW
1 year ago

My guess would be (I didn’t read the article so far) that this was simply a case of a muslim mayor shutting down what he considered to be an anti-islamic gathering, based on him being really convinced that he and his fellow believers are the kind of universally better people they’re always being referred as by the pro-recessive left.

stewart
1 year ago

but it is certainly not a forum for plotting by nefarious far-right conspirators bent on the restoration of 1930s style fascism

It’s important not to indulge the gaslighting narrative, which sadly the author is inadvertently doing.

This statement suggests that, had the conference been somewhat more aggressive in its stance in favour of family and religion and against rampant immigration, that they might have slipped into “fascist” territory.

No. That’s completely wrong. Fascism isn’t extreme conservatism. Fascism is socialism imposed by force, with the support of corporations.

And if that describes anyone, it describes the mayors of Brussels almost to a t. Not the proponents of family and religion, however strong their convictions.

RW
RW
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

Fascism is socialism imposed by force, with the support of corporations.

What you refer to as socialism forcibly imposed with support of corporations is what actual national socialists call liberal individualism of the internationalist capitalist system and they’re vehemently opposed to it. And that some muslim mayor trying to enforce the prejudices of the “Our agenda is those of all good people!” American left about their political opponents could be correctly described as fascist is gibberish which seriously beggars belief.

In this respect, your statement is really the mirror image of the statement by that mayor itself: He thinks it’s imperative to shut down NatCon because they’re “far right” ie “They’re really all Nazis!”. And your reaction to that is “This guys is obviously a Nazi!”. One really has to appreciate the subtleness of this imported US domestic politics ‘discourse’: Two camps who oppose each other in just about everything but who are firmly united in the respect that their sole political argument is “The other guys are all Nazis!”.

No wonder that the so-called west is in intellectual and cultural decline.

stewart
1 year ago
Reply to  RW

That’s pretty funny.

So suggesting that someone who uses the police to shut down opinions he doesn’t like is a fascist, that’s ugly and uncalled for.

But telling someone whose definitions of things you disagree with that they are contributing to intellectual and cultural decline of the west, that’s perfectly reasonable.

Hilarious.

Btw, Nazi is your word not mine. I didn’t call anyone a Nazi (not in this thread, anyway…)

RW
RW
1 year ago
Reply to  stewart

So suggesting that someone who uses the police to shut down opinions he doesn’t like is a fascist, that’s ugly and uncalled for.

Calling a muslim mayor of some part of Brussels who tries to shut down a so-called NationalConservative conference because “It’s a far right meeting!” (aka “They’re all Nazis!”) a fascist is so wrong that it’s ridiculous. And the underlying Humpty Dumpty approach to European history and political theory is certainly not among the great intellectual achievements of all time.

iconoclast
1 year ago
Reply to  RW

Oxford Reference: Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.

‘tends to’.

‘Nazi’ refers to national socialism.

So how is it that ‘fascist’ and ‘Nazi’ do not fairly apply to the behaviours of these socialist Mayors in Brussels in 2024 – barely 100 years off the 1930s in Europe?

We live in frightening times.

Look at the nationalists in Scotland with their attempts to shut down free speech with hate laws.

How did that happen in C21 liberal democracy? Do we even have one?

Look at cancel culture generally – a new set of laws imposed by backdoor activists funded by billionaires and not the elected representatives in the legislature.

And look at the elected representatives who keep their mouths shut and do the bidding of unseen globalist masters.

Are we going the way of Iran and other extremist run countries? Iranians are not represented by the Mullahs who have political and military control.

RW
RW
1 year ago
Reply to  iconoclast

They are not focussed on a particular ethnic group, they have no contempt for democracy¹, don’t insist on obdience to a general leader and – last but not least – are absolutely no demagogues. Even if it wasn’t so, these would all be ancillary properties which would – for instance – perfectly apply to Napoleon Bonaparte or the popular image of Wilhlem II. created by his enemies. Fascism² is an Italian political system created by Mussolini at a time when lots of the European countries more or less mauled by the people who got to dictate WWI peace terms were ruled in a similar way, eg, Franco in Spain, Piludski in Poland or Dollfuß in Austria, to name a few lesser known ones. In modern usage, it’s usually interchangeable with national socalism which was the German fascism of the NSDAP. In ultra-modern usage it means “people of whose opinions I REALLLY disapprove of and you should, too!”, regardless of what these opinions actually are. But this means it’s just a political invective without any meaning and this abuse should be called out as such. The NatCon attendees where absolutely not fascists (weakly encoded as “far right meeting”) and the guy… Read more »

iconoclast
1 year ago
Reply to  RW

Because the first words of your response are wrong makes it difficult to take the rest of what you say seriously. And those words are wrong because you specifically chose to omit relevant words – in particular: “one national or ethnic group” and “tends to“. That is all apart from the missing magic words from your comments “in my opinion”. It is your opinion and it is not mine for the prior reasons and also for the following reasons. On the one hand are the National Conservatism group and on the other the national socialist group or the closer union group [take your pick of either or both], whose supremacy in Brussels over the NatCons was being asserted. From what Farage says of his treatment over decades of being banned from pubs, bars and restaurants, it has been going on a long time. Plus on just this one occasions several businesses were threatened by these [IMHO] national socialist fascist mayors. To add to that shutting down free speech is showing contempt for democracy – there is no “tends to” about that part. Without free speech there can be no democracy. And of course a typical demagogic approach is to repeatedly… Read more »

RW
RW
1 year ago
Reply to  iconoclast

This is too much bullshit to address all of it, so I’ll restrict myself to single point: A demagogue is a charismatic leader capable of bewitching the masses with his rethorical skills so that they support him blindly. Nowadays, the charmless men, women and otherwises of the so-called progressive left use the term populist for this. And there are certainly not in their camp.

I never expected you were willing to let go of this convenient insult you like to lob at your opponents as much as they like to lob at at you.

iconoclast
1 year ago
Reply to  RW

This is too much bullshit to address all of it” = I have been too careful to ensure my remarks are accurate for you to contradict them.

Nowhere do I mention demagogues. I quoted the Oxford Reference which states about fascism that it has a “strong demagogic approach“.

And an aspect of such an approach is making repeated false claims about one’s opponents.

What “convenient insult you like to lob at your opponents“?

Where one encounters behaviours which IMHO seem to match very closely the description of fascism then that is an entirely appropriate description to use.

But I cannot find anything which could remotely qualify as an insult directed at you or anyone else.

This response is also not about ‘letting go’ of anything but it is all about correcting with demonstrable facts incorrect claims made by you.

Mogwai
1 year ago

The conference is still going. Great to hear! Two-fingered salute to the real fascists. Some very good snippets if you’re on Twitter; ”UPDATE! NatCon Brussels 2 will be free to meet today for its second day of programming without further interference from state authorities, the Conseil d’État, the highest court in Belgium relating to issues of public administration, has ruled.” ”BREAKING: Belgian court strikes down order to censor @NatConTalk The conference will resume today without police interference @ADFIntl supported in legally challenging the order to censor the conference The court said: “the threat to public order seems to be derived purely from the reactions that its organization [NatCon] might provoke among opponents.” Having unreasonable opponents is no excuse to suppress rights, and so the court rightly ruled in NatCon’s favour. Huge win for free speech!” https://twitter.com/NatConTalk/status/1780456073209537006 ”PM Viktor Orbán on upcoming European elections: If leadership turns out to be bad, they should be replaced. And this leadership is bad. They promised: -Better agriculture–farmers are suffering all over Europe. -To stop and manage the migration crisis–it’s worse than ever. -Sanctions would stop the war–the war is going on. If leadership promises something and fails to deliver, they have to leave. Go… Read more »

iconoclast
1 year ago
Reply to  Mogwai

“only homosexuals want to get married”

Marriage is a triumph of hope over experience: to paraphrase a homosexual – Oscar Wilde.

[PS are we allowed to use the word ‘homosexual’? And does the NHS have a flag for it?]

For a fist full of roubles

The most telling phrase used in this piece, to me, is “flagrant mischaracterisation”.
This describes the narrative from the ruling classes and their lap-dog MSM over every issue that currently affects us: the entire Covid scam, DEI activism, the environment, immigration and both wars.
The truth is out there for those who seek it but everything spoonfed to the plebs is conspicuously and deliberately wrong.

EppingBlogger
1 year ago

I did not know the Overton indow applied also to the age and gender of the speaker or thinker. Now, it appears, a DS corresponent feels men of a particular age should not be heard with the same ear as other people.

That group actually included at least one woman who “identifies” as a woman. Remember them DS?

The headline is a shocking breach of the standards we expect from it.

Mogwai
1 year ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

Haha, yes my first thought was that the title was a bit strange. Especially given that there are several women speaking today and they’re of various ages. But I think the author was just being a bit tongue-in-cheek and possibly a bit dry. I think sometimes people’s humour doesn’t come over as effectively using just the written word as it would in other forms of communication. Possibly he could have just skipped the ”middle-aged men” part and made do with ”bunch of people” instead. We’d still catch his drift. I don’t want to over-think things too much though.

RW
RW
1 year ago
Reply to  EppingBlogger

I think it’s an allusion to the old white men stereotype frequently employed by the so-called progressives.

transmissionofflame
1 year ago

As I posted earlier, I think they are afraid because they know their arguments are weak and they will lose power, so anything that stands in their way must be eliminated by any means necessary – smearing as “far right”, “conspiracy theorist”, “racist” etc. Much easier than winning the battle of ideas in the public square.

RW
RW
1 year ago

I think you’re giving these people way too much credit. They’re not interested in playing by the rules, they’re interested in winning. Hence, if they can use political power to crush the opposition instead of argueing it with, they’ll obviously do that. The rules (“democracy” etc) only matter to them insofar they protect them from being treated in the same way when they’re not strong but weak.

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
1 year ago

Slightly off topic but perhaps the banning of cigarettes is to get the digital ID by the back door. This would be a perfect excuse to bring it in, not that shop keepers don’t get enough aggro already. Also the smacking of children ban, that to me is another insidious attack on the family. The state driving a wedge between the state and family. Deliberate IMO.

iconoclast
1 year ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

I am not an anti-smacking zealot but I never found a need to smack my kids when they were children.

Now they are adults that is a different matter – ha!!

The point is there are many life-skills and techniques schools could usefully teach children before adulthood and one of them is a bit of psychology to manage the behaviours of children for when they become parents or look after children before adulthood.

It is often counter-productive to use physical punishment on children and it is similarly often most productive to use a little psychology and love and care when managing the behaviours of children.

It worked for me and it made life pleasant as my kids grew up.

iconoclast
1 year ago
Reply to  iconoclast

Ha! The knuckle-dragging thought police downvoting a perfectly reasonable comment.

Nice to know a mayor of Brussels reads DS.

Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
1 year ago

It is impossible to resist and yet easy to understand. You don’t have to consult political trends or even speak with your friends. You can get a good feel of the emotional pitch of a county and if you do then you will understand the rationale behind all of these moves given growing discontent and the attempt of the ‘centre’ to reassert itself. The sad truth is that they will not survive and we won’t either. We have earmarked ourselves for destruction. You were asked many times over the last decade to behave with cojones and yet you didn’t. You wanted to milk it dry before you did anything risky. And now you pay for that.

Covid-1984
Covid-1984
1 year ago

Nobody seems to remark on the gormless look on the police’s faces. They can plainly see the total lack of any public order offence yet still stand there. Nothing symbolises more the puppetry of the law.

Old Brit
Old Brit
1 year ago

Maybe the Neandertals were more intelligent, but Homo Sapiens was more efficient ?

adamcollyer
adamcollyer
1 year ago

Does it sound like a recipe for good, calm, strategically sensible government?

No, it sounds awfully like the final days of the Roman Republic. All we need now is a Julius Caesar to bring the whole thing crashing down. (NB Trump isn’t the guy, even though he will win in November.)

pamela preedy
pamela preedy
1 year ago

Is that dumb mayor a muzlim (couldn’t tell from his appearance or name) and if so, he must have been voted in by a high muzlim population ( just like our dear old Sadist Khan’t in 3rd world Londonistan).

No European country seems to have the common sense to prevent muzlims from becoming so numerous that they can grab power by democratic means.

Nor do they have the forethought to change the electoral laws so that muzlims cannot gain power to impose their political ideology aka izlam on the rest of us.

UK politicians are so stupid that they have failed to notice izlamic protestors holding up signs proclaiming ‘izlam will rule the UK!’ and ‘The black flag will fly over Buckingham Palace!’ and ‘izlam will rule the world!’ etc etc. They have failed to notice that the most popular name for babies several years running in the UK has been ‘mohammad’.

Or they HAVE noticed and decided it is all going to plan . . .