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A Y M
2 years ago

From the Mail article the new revelations about the now dumped Lancashire Labour MP:

  • Blamed ‘people in the media from certain Jewish quarters’ for fuelling criticism of a pro-Palestinian Labour MP;
  • Said Israel planned to ‘get rid of [Palestinians] from Gaza’ and ‘grab’ some of the land;
  • Boasted about preventing Israeli flags being flown from local public buildings after the October 7 attacks.

Well, whether you agree with this or not, if you think this is antisemitism that rises to banishment, then you have been truly zionised.

So who controls the UK Middle East Foreign Policy?

Zionist/neocons…? Maybe?

NickR
2 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

I suppose your comment is supposed to win readers over to the idea that Palestinians are victims & Israelis/Jews oppressors? However, I didn’t understand your comment or what point you were trying to make. Can you make it clearer for us at the back, struggling to keep up, what your argument is.

A Y M
2 years ago
Reply to  NickR

Sure.
I argue that none of the 3 statements made by the aspirant MP are antisemitic.

It is true that Jewish groups targeted MPs on their stance on Israel, they often do and they get hounded out of power for it.

It is true Israel is trying to ethnic cleanse Palestinians off their own lands. It’s been true for 75 years.

It is, I would argue, commendable that other nations flags are not flown from public buildings unless they are visiting. Ukrainian flags all through the country is just as political as Israeli or Palestinian flags.

And lastly, as I have argued previously, it is true that Israel stood down and allowed the October 7th attacks.

So, if all these truths are enough to get you cancelled, who do you think controls the narratives?

JeremyP99
2 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

It is true Israel is trying to ethnic cleanse Palestinians off their own lands. It’s been true for 75 years.”

  1. There has never been a state of “Palestine”
  2. Before the British Mandate (which led to the creation of Israel) it was part of the Ottoman Empire.
  3. Jews have lived there continuously since the Bronze.
  4. There were NO “Palestinians” until the two timing shit Arafat invented them.

If you are so ignorant, why not STFU?

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-big-lie-about-israel-threatens-us-all/

DHJ
DHJ
2 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Jews have been in Britain for hundreds of years but imagine the response if a collection of non-Jewish Brits set about forcibly removing the Jewish ‘occupiers’ because it is their “right and duty to settle in all areas of our promised land”.

https://twitter.com/KnessetT/status/1757053452176302363

If someone kills because God told them to do it, they are typically treated as crazy. However, if you kill someone in West Bank or Gaza and take their land claiming that God promised it to you, look at the support it gets.

Lockdown Sceptic
2 years ago

World Health Organisation Censors Online Speech

latest leaflet to print at home and deliver to neighbours or forward to politicians, media, friends online.

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Lockdown Sceptic
2 years ago

Monday morning Winkfield Row Ascot SL5 8ED

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Jon Garvey
2 years ago

Mainstream journalists have not protested Joe Biden’s mental and
physical decline because they are overwhelmingly Democratic in their
partisanship.

That’s not it though, really, is it? If the Democratic Party were their thing, they would want to see it well run, and executing good policies effectively. What one has is not a party affiliation, but a fanatical ideology in which the brand, not the party itself, is the god.

Monro
2 years ago

Question: ‘What are you going to do to convince traditional Conservative voters that their vote is still better off with you?’

Answer: ‘A vote for anyone that is not a Conservative candidate is a vote to put Keir Starmer in Downing Street’

Is a negative answer……..

What reason does anyone have for voting positively for the conservative party?

The whole country is a complete shambles, infrastructure hopeless, NHS hopeless, civil service hopeless, Armed Services equipment hopeless, nut zero criminally insane; so the government thinks it is a great idea to lock people in their homes, stick junk into them and spend £400bn of their money just because of a seasonal outbreak of a novel common cold coronavirus.

And if the junk vaccines cause problems, no compensation because, return to go, the civil service is hopeless…..

No-one will be voting conservative, as is already crystal clear.

soundofreason
soundofreason
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

Question: ‘What are you going to do to convince traditional Conservative voters that their vote is still better off with you?’

Answer: ‘A vote for anyone that is not a Conservative candidate is a vote to put Keir Starmer in Downing Street’

Is a negative answer……..

I agree it’s a negative answer – and a piss-poor answer too. The Conservative Party would do better under an AV style of voting now. What a pity they campaigned against it in the run up to the referendum in 2011. Mind you, I believe they’d soon find that they’re not conservative enough for many people.

Still, we can’t keep holding referendums until the people give the ‘right’ answer, can we?

EppingBlogger
2 years ago
Reply to  soundofreason

They are not Conservative at all. They are like a soap branded “CleansAll” which is made of flour. Even ASA would not allow it but the Tories mussel all the time.

Yes I know Labour and LibDem do the same. Hopefully Reform UK won’t.

Free Lemming
2 years ago

Very interesting choice of clip from DS about GB News with Sunak. I wonder why that was chosen rather than the Scot giving Sunak both barrels about his ‘vaccine’ injury? https://youtu.be/nWJyEB7MkkY?feature=shared

For a site built on lockdown and ‘vaccine’ scepticism that omission is curious to say the least. LOOK! There’s a rabbit!

JayBee
2 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Yep, my thoughts too when I saw that clip this morning on science files.
But then, the focus of this site has shifted to defend anything that Israel does and the Torygraph writes and demands, above all more moolah for the MIC.
Sad but predictable.
Time for another name change.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago

https://thecritic.co.uk/why-britain-needs-popular-conservatism/

The Conservative Party has not fulfilled the promise of Brexit or overcome the legacy of Blair, writes Mark Littlewood in the Critic.”

No shit Sherlock.

Too late to be better late than never – that passed years ago.

RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago

So only two parties count in our so-called democracy. Right?

Please ask me about tax and the economy because I have memorised a patronising, pat response, which is basically a lie about taxes coming down. Right?

Of course the “vaccine” injured shouldn’t be silenced, but that’s exactly what we’ve tried to do. (I won’t mention they’re “safe and effective” since I’m not likely to get a polite response). Right?

If Sunak is really the best the Not-a-Conservative-Party can find to “lead” it, they’re doomed. Right?

NeilofWatford
2 years ago

Sunak had no answers for this audience.
He is completely false.
He talks whilst the globalists destroy our way of life.
Any vote for the Unaparty perpetuates this.

Dinger64
2 years ago

The point of a vote is to vote for whom you want, not whom you don’t!
If the best he can offer is vote for us or you’ll get them, f×+k him and his party!
I want reform so I’m voting reform!
Stuff tactical voting its gone beyond that now, we need real change in the west, and not just in Britain!

godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
2 years ago
Reply to  Dinger64

You can vote for whom you most want to win or you can vote for the least worst of the candidates who have any realistic chance of winning instead of voting for a candidate whom you most want to win but has no hope of winning. You have that choice. There’s no law or moral principle that means you must only vote for the candidate you most want.

godknowsimgood
godknowsimgood
2 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

Or if none of the candidates inspire you enough to go out and vote, you can stay at home.

Dinger64
2 years ago
Reply to  godknowsimgood

As I intended, vote for who you want or don’t vote at all! Don’t vote tory or Labour, vote for anyone but.
If a goat stands then vote for that! Or don’t vote, if you vote for one or the other you will get one or the other guaranteed! Brake this political cycle

soundofreason
soundofreason
2 years ago

The real-life Day After Tomorrow: Gulf Stream could collapse by 2025” – Experts at Utrecht University say that an abrupt shutdown of Atlantic Ocean currents that could put large parts of Europe in a deep freeze is looking more likely, reports the Mail.

What they’re describing is a negative feedback process which has made and kept the planet habitable by the life that has evolved to take advantage of the conditions. If it starts getting too warm, the ice melts and triggers cooling and balance is restored. The idea that we can or should interfere with these planetary scale processes is absurd.

The climate change alarmists claim that there are stronger positive feedback processes where warming will lead to greater warming which will tip the planet into an un-habitable state. We know this won’t happen for the simple reason that it would have happened already – nothing remains balanced on a knife edge for any length of time.

A. Contrarian
2 years ago
Reply to  soundofreason

Surely the deadly catastrophic and extreme global warming we are also facing will more or less cancel out this change and everything will be fine?

Also I note from the article that it last shut down 1200 years ago – why? Presumably they are not blaming human influences at that point? Nor did it seem to wipe out humanity as they are claiming it will this time.

EppingBlogger
2 years ago

Why Britain needs Popular Conservatism

I don’t mind what the new party or campaign is called but it needs to be capable of promotion while summarising the goal. Any party with Conservative in it seems to me to be doomed. Adding adjectives won’t work in the way Blair did with New Labour.

Regardless of that point, I wonder if a group operating within and at the edges of the discredited CP can make much progress compared with a better supported Reform UK. What do they hope to achieve? I suspect they want to develop a fringe group of Tories who will provide mutual comfort in a very unhappy post-election period. Many of those MPs involved will be jobless.

Their chances of rebuilding the CP after a big loss are doomed because (see para 1) and they will be outnumbered by the left in the residual Conservative Parliamentary Party. The left leaning internal CP bureaucracy will still be there, association officers are very often similarly minded.

DHJ
DHJ
2 years ago

Labour has an anti-semitism problem? Not when it comes to funding.

LABOUR MPS HAVE ACCEPTED OVER £280,000 FROM ISRAEL LOBBY

Twenty percent of Labour’s sitting MPs have been funded by pro-Israel groups or individuals – including 15 who have been directly funded by the Israeli state.”

https://www.declassifieduk.org/labour-mps-have-accepted-over-280000-from-israel-lobby/

MichaelM
2 years ago

I wanted to share something I heard on the PBD podcast from last Tuesday, which I think summarises well the way the world really works. Possibly a good “soundbite” for conversations with sheeple.

1% of the population control the world.
4% of the population are their puppets.
90% of the population are sleeping zombies.
And 5% of the population are trying to wake up the zombies.
The 1% makes sure that the 4% stop the 5% from waking up the 90%.

BurlingtonBertie
2 years ago

Interesting that Meta/FB wants to censor the term Zionist/Zionism, which is conflated with Jew/Judaism. The former being a political descriptor & the latter pertaining to the faithful & the faith.
The MSM is purposely conflating the two very distinct terms & the fact that any mention of the political term is not wanted on social media is very telling as the truth must be gaining traction with the masses & starting to hurt those who wish to control & drive the narrative as well as the masses.
Censorship happens when one is over the target.

JeremyP99
2 years ago

Pretty sure it was collapsing back in the 70s as well….

soundofreason
soundofreason
2 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

There were plenty of predictions of a looming ice age in the 60s/70s – I confess I don’t know on what basis these predictions were made.

One thing that occurs to me is that I fancy our chances of surviving cold better than extreme heat. Nuclear power to the rescue!

True Spirit of America Party
True Spirit of America Party
2 years ago

When nearly half of the most newsworthy news items in a single day are related to antisemitism in one way or another, that is NOT a good sign at all!