Trump Has Worked Out What Voters Want
Donald Trump is cruising to the Republican nomination and possibly the White House because he has captured the new conservative zeitgeist and worked out what voters want, says David Frost in the Telegraph – with a shout out to the Daily Sceptic. Here’s an excerpt.
It’s easy to rail against the elite, but rarer to get actual evidence that they really do think differently from the rest of us. This month we got that, in the form of a Rasmussen poll in America, picked up here by Toby Young’s Daily Sceptic website. This poll specifically looked at the opinions of the elite – defined as people with a postgrad degree, earning $150,000 annually and living in dense cities. That’s about 1% of Americans.
The results are pretty striking. Nearly half of the elite think there is “too much freedom” in America, while only 16% of Americans as a whole think that. 77% support rationing of energy and meat (all Americans: 28%). Well over two thirds would ban gas stoves and petrol cars, and over half would ban non-essential air travel and air conditioning (all Americans: 13% and 25%). 70% of the elite trust the Government, more than twice as many as ordinary Americans. And finally, though hardly surprisingly, while only 40% of Americans approve of President Biden, 84% of the elite do.
Look no further for what has driven Donald Trump to all but tying up the Republican presidential nomination this week. He’s appealing to those many Americans who think that the people in charge of the country just don’t share their aspirations and are not in touch with the realities of their lives.
This poll suggests they aren’t wrong to think that. To outsiders, one of the most baffling features of the past year is the way that Trump became more popular as the number of court cases against him increased. Yet if you see the governing establishment as wholly different from you, motivated by quite different values, you are more likely to see Trump as a genuine victim of that system, and hence as the only real opportunity to change it.
However things play out for Trump in the months to come, and I certainly see him as a distinctly mixed candidate, it’s obvious from his campaign that technocracy is just not a winning proposition on the Right. Instead, the rocket motor comes from anti-system politics, populism if you will, and from fundamentals like immigration control. …
Republicans want someone who is prepared to kick around the bureaucracies, to appeal over their heads to the public, and who doesn’t see it as a killer argument when someone says “well we have always done it like this” or “a court might disagree with you”. Perhaps Republican voters are right to sense that Trump’s very brashness, his indifference to convention, is precisely what may make him able to break the mould and make things happen.
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Trump is deeply flawed and not anyone’s saviour though I would probably vote for him if I were in the US.
What makes me chuckle is the mild surprise that even people on the right like David Frost seem to express about why Trump is popular. I am way more astonished that Biden is still polling so well – how can anyone beyond hopeless welfare cases and deranged or evil elites support him and his party? The same is true in the UK for Starmer & co, Khan, etc. Baffling.
I don’t think his wife was overly enthusiastic about being the First Lady first time around so I’m not sure how she’ll handle it if he gets the position again, but for crying out loud, for all of his faults and wrongdoings during the scamdemic, Trump is far and away a better candidate for President then that hair-sniffing, senile, pathologically lying old creep. And talking of people who can’t manage to string a coherent sentence together, I also won’t be sorry to see the back of this DEI-installed clown casualty either; ”Donald Trump, like the November 2024 election in Kamala’s view, is binary. He is untroubled by suspicions that he may really be an ingenue. Nor is there more than one Donald Trump. So why does Harris insist on using plural pronouns for this man? And that’s just the smallest indication of her deep intellectual confusion, that is, if anything about Harris can be said to be intellectual at all. “We can’t lose this democracy,” she proclaims, and she’s quite right: we can’t. You can’t lose what you don’t have. The vice president of the United States should know it, and maybe somewhere in her crowded mind she does, but… Read more »
The whole of the ‘swamp’ and its creatures will fight tooth and nail to preserve their place on the gravy train. I hope Trump’s body guard are on the case.
Whenever Kamala speaks, it’s like she’s talking to a Kindergarten.
Let’s talk about buses!!
It is funny because Laurance Fox did a survey and many people agreed with his policies, yet, at same time, Labour that represents the dire opposite is going to walk into No10.
Let he is is without sin cast the first stone. Etc.
The left wing cat ladies will go to their graves virtue signalling all the way – NOTHING is as important as what they think of themselves and what they think others think of them. Mark my words, things can get MUCH worse both in the US and here before it triggers a counter reaction.
I’m sure you are right about things getting worse
I know some left wing cat ladies and you’re right about them too but there are plenty of other fairly ordinary people who vote Democrat, possibly because they always have. Trump has eaten into some of that vote just as the Tories did in the last election here, but a lot of people voted for Biden.
If Trump and many of his supporters truly believe that the 2020 election was stolen due to rigged Dominion and Smartmatic voting machines, what are they intending to do to stop the same thing happening again this time?
If the election can be rigged that easily, leaving no evidence of fraud, what’s the point of Trump trying to win the 2024 election?
Anything electronic can be easily rigged. If you want your scanner to not count every fifth vote for Trump, its a few lines of code.Load an update just before the count (which is what actually happened…) then upload another update straight after, and no one is any the wiser. It has to be by overwhelming numbers that Trump wins. The whole 110% of the population voting in key seats and 200k dead people managing to get to the voting booths can only work so far. If the election isn’t truly free and fair, then I can see major problems for the US, and it isn’t Trump who is playing with democratic rights.
The Horizon debacle is a clear indication of the facility for “secure” systems to be used for malign purposes despite the protests of the manufacturers and installers of their infallibility.
So what’s to stop the exact same thing happening again in the November 2024 presidential election?
Are you confident that the same thing won’t happen again as happened in 2020?
You clearly did not understand the point of my post. I give readers credit for drawing obvious conclusions, which you clearly have done but decided everyone else is too dim to get it. Not only that but you make the same point twice. I think it is only your mother that might think you are good, because you are proving to everyone else that you are not.
If that’s what happened in the 2020 election, what’s to stop it happening again? What are Trump and his supporters doing, or intending to do, to prevent it?
Well trying again is surely better than giving up. He may have plans to prevent fraud – if he’s smart he wouldn’t be sharing those plans with anyone.
Do you really think Trump is that smart, that he has some secret plan to prevent the Dominion and Smartmatic voting machines being rigged – in the way he believes they were rigged in 2020 – but he isn’t telling anyone how he’s going to prevent it, and nobody else has suggested how the rigging can be prevented?
I have no idea. I think it’s plausible, but equally plausible that he doesn’t have a plan and he is hoping for the best, or that he never really thought it was rigged to start with but was just saying that. I am not sure it matters that much – ultimately he clearly thought he was in with a chance of winning, and he so far looks like he is right – it will be close probably. What was he supposed to do – just give up, and let some RINO lose the election?
How would he believe he’s in with a chance of winning if he believes the 2020 election was rigged and nothing is being done to prevent the same thing happening again?
How would I know that? It was pretty close in 2020, perhaps he thinks that the publicity around the vote will discourage the worst excesses of those who might try to cheat him.
I wasn’t suggesting that he should just give up, but it would seem odd if he just sleepwalked into the same thing happening again. Maybe we’ll hear more about it in the coming months.
Forewarned is for armed. Because of the Electoral College system, just a handful of swing States determine the result. They are easier to monitor without having to monitor all 50 States.
They were thoroughly investigated after the 2020 election, what do you think could be different this time?
Oh, you mean like the thorough investigation into the Russian connection provided proof. Clue – it was discreditedand the connection was shown to be illusory, and that is being kind.
Maybe ‘thoroughly’ was wrong word!
Who said there is no evidence of fraud?
The problem isn’t the lack of evidence of fraud in US elections, or damage caused by covid jabs, or the nefarious intentions behind CBDCs, or the fraud of climate policies, etc..
The problem is that clear evidence of all of those things leads to nothing. That when “conspiracy theories” materialise or strong evidence appears there is a collective shrug of the shoulders and the ruling machinery just ploughs on running roughshod over everything that we thought were foundations of our civilised society.
There was no convincing evidence that could overturn the result of the election. What’s the point of “evidence” if it doesn’t change anything. My question is how is the exact same thing not going to happen again, how are Trump and his supporters planning to prevent what they believe happened in 2020?
Same day voting, paper ballots, voter ID.
They talk about it all the time.
That would be ideal, but I haven’t heard any serious talk about it that it could actually happen.
I think they’re serious about wanting to do it. But unlike some of the other things like “securing the border” where it will be hard to resist, the dems will fight any such electoral reform or legislation like their lives depended on it. Because it their lives would depend on it.
To me, the fact that they fight those voting rules which in any other western democracy are no trainers is pretty much proof to me that there is rampant cheating. They are reasonable rules that would go a really long way to ensuring there is no fraud. Why wouldn’t Dems want unambiguously firm voting rules that minimise fraud?
I’m not sure I believe the voting machines theory. I do believe there was fraud, but it was of the old fashioned variety.
A problem the Republicans have is that they aren’t willing to stoop to the Democrats level. For example, bussing the entire population of some projects (US council houses) to the voting booths, and giving sandwhiches and gift bags to them for voting Democratic Party, is not fraud as such, but not really something that would work as well for the Republican party.
I do think that the independent voters will have been put off by Biden’s absolutely disastrous term though, and Trump stands a good chance of winning. What also helps him is that he is a centrist really, not a right winger like DeSantis.
Can’t say I like certain reported aspects of his apparent beliefs and character.
But he, and possibly Putin (and 4 years ago I’d never have said that), are IMHO the best and probably the only hope the world has of getting rid of the controlling entities – big tec, bigpharma,big corporations,WHO, the “Elites” etc. who sadly appear too easily able to control the West.
Governments no longer serve the people, they are merely bag carriers beholden to the Elites craven New World Order. This has got to stop.
Putin is certainly good at getting rid of stuff: Grozny, Raqqa, Homs, Deir ez Zor, Borodianka, Bucha, Mariupol…
He is so good, in fact, that he might get rid of us all……in order to save us…….
Have you seen pictures of Mariupol lately? It has risen from the ashes.
You mean this?
‘In March 2023, the mayor of Mariupol, Vadym Boychenko, said that it would take about 20 years to fully restore the city. As of March 2023, the occupation authorities planned to build 30 apartment buildings by the end of the year, which is 2.2% of the destroyed ones’
It is rising from the ashes in the same way that we will rise from the ashes of the next war: slowly, if at all….
No one will arise from the ashes of the next war (presumably you mean world war). We will all just be blowing in the wind.
Strategic air warfare, and this includes anything nuclear, had its swan song during the Vietnam war when a totally insane amount of munitions dropped by bombers (many times more than what was used during the second world-war) failed to influence the outcome of the war in the desired way. Intelligent people already knew that after Germany had been surveyed post-1945 and the outcome was that the country had been “overbombed” (quote) and yet, the Wehrmacht kept fighting until it had been overpowered. Mass murder of essentially defenseless civilians may appeal to some people’s base desires. But it’s not an effective way to accomplish anything beyond that.
Speak for yourself:
https://www.bunkershield.co.uk/
You are talking about the exiled former mayor who hasn’t lived there since 2022, presumably.
Yes. The one really planning to restore Mariupol and look after its people.
‘Mariupol Reborn has widespread support, including USAID’s Economic Support for Ukraine project. The SCM Group has allocated $1.5 million to fund nine programmes.
These include the development of the visions, and offices in Lviv, Dnipro and Warsaw, where the project is gathering expertise and securing international partnerships.
Cities across Europe have already offered support, including Utrecht, Vilnius and Gdansk. This is important because Mariupol has a lot to learn, particularly from those that suffered destruction in previous wars.
Mariupol Reborn is also providing housing for displaced Mariupol people now. With financial support from the French government, the project has developed dormitories in Dnipro.
Ukrainian businessman Rinat Akhmetov said, “The Russian invasion has destroyed the lives of hundreds of thousands of peaceful Mariupol residents. And it has ended the lives of far too many: one was too many. Therefore, it is crucially important we do not leave people alone with their misfortune. That’s why we must provide the people of Mariupol with homes, however temporary.”
https://remariupol.com/about
I am sorry. I cannot take anything you say seriously.
Have you looked at the state of the Ukrainian armed forces, their lack of supplies of any sort, the attrition in their hardware and men, the parlous state of the infrastructure and the rapidly draining support from the West now that they have a new bogeyman to goad called Iran. Ukraine is slowly contracting day by day, and there will come a point where they will find it impossible to resist, and that is the moment Russia wil move out of bottom gear.
The thought of Mariupol re-entering Zelensky’s Ukraine is quite fantastical, as is your suggestion that surviving a nuclear attack in your own bunker is anything other than turning a swift and painless death into a protracted agony.
PS You seem to be very adept at finding quotes and listing them, just repeating other peoples’ views and curiously omitting any context. It is not very clever.
As I’ve recently read, the Mount Saint Helens explosion in 1980 released a thermic energy equivalent to 24 megatons of TNT and it will also have caused quite a bit of radioactive fallout due to naturally occurring isotopes. Nevertheless, it remained a pretty localized event. Nuke scare is so 1980s.
I have TXT in to Talk TV mentioning that a number of times, never once does it get read out. I feel stupid for wasting my money thinking that a Globalist controlled opposition would ever read anything out that threatens the delicate ecosystem World Order.
It seems to me Trump has not “figured out what voters want,” but that what he wants is what the voters want, by an large. If voters thought that gaining power was his ambition, and that his policies were bent to that goal, they’d drop him like a hot brick. Lust for power is why there’s a Swamp to drain in the first place.
“Republicans want someone who is prepared to kick around the bureaucracies…”
There is clear evidence that it’s not just Republicans, but (a bit like the UK Red Wall voters) people who typically would vote Democrat are moving towards Trump out of frustration, particularly Black, Latin and young Black males.
The same sort of shift took place with DeSantis as Governor who drew unprecedented support from traditional Democrat voters.
If only we had a radical choice in the UK – the best we can
muster is Reform which is as much use as a wet lettuce.
If Ben Habib was their leader that would be a step in the right direction. Tice is mates with Medazolam Mat and thought care workers should not decide what goes into their own body.
Also a big fan of Ukraine…
Yes,what a sucker falling for that one.
Trump the saviour. Unless there’s another ‘pandemic’ which will see him, again, become Big Pharma dispenser and jailor. But I guess we can conveniently ignore that.
Saying Trump has worked out what voters is rather diminishing.
He has identified mamy of the actual fundamental problems plaguing America and is vowing to solve them. Not because that’s what voters want but because he sees they are the actual real problems. And voters agree with him.
He’s not following the voters, he’s leading them and they are following him.
What sickens me most is how anyone in mainstream media is incapable of mentioning or referring to “Donald Trump” without adding some sort of apology or disclaimer: “However things play out for Trump in the months to come, and I certainly see him as a distinctly mixed candidate, it’s obvious from his campaign that technocracy …” David Frost could easily have written that sentence without the “and I certainly see him as a distinctly mixed candidate” and it would have made no difference to what he was writing, but he obviously felt obliged to write that he, of course, does not support Trump or anything Trump stands for. And the disparaging use of the word “populism”: “… the rocket motor comes from anti-system politics, populism if you will, and …”. Why should a politician not promote causes that “appeal to ordinary people”, to quote from an on-line dictionary? But I should not complain. I subscribed 20 years to a national newspaper until I became tired of their daily slagging of Donald Trump while a presidential candidate and then president the first time around. I realized then that news reporting had become a simple propaganda campaign which has now spread to cover almost all reported… Read more »
He can also be quite dumb at reading the room with his own base….”I helped get Operation Warp Speed going yay”. Though the last rally he did he did say he would stop all vaccine mandates. Just thought he would be a bit quicker on that one.
In other words the complete reverse of what To y was advocating a couple of weeks ago in the Weekly Skeptic podcast. NOT a career politician but rather a leader with a charismatic appeal. This is MAGA country.
‘Well over two thirds would ban gas stoves and petrol cars …’
Except theirs, obviously.
(1) Small Government that does not want to cut our toenails for us. (2) Get rid of phony planet savers that have hijacked the environment for their communism. (3) Stop telling us what words in the dictionary we cannot use (4) Stuff your equality diversity race and gender (4) Keep guys in frocks away from our daughters toilet. (5) Stop NET ZERO immediately.
If Trump wins the best we can hope for is a repeat of his first term. I see no good reason to assume that he has learnt much from his first term, although hopefully this time he won’t stuff his administration with globalists.
Also, he is looking much more tired than he did in 2016, and even 2020.
I asked friends in Texas why they were voting for Trump and they said because he is the only one who is different. All the other candidates they saw both Democrat and Republicans they saw as being more of the same. Basically, they were completely fed up with governments that were corrupt and self-serving. Trump has been so vilified by US media over years that it has had a real effect called Trump Derangement Syndrome. I see people viciously and for no known reason opposed to Trump. When asked why they have this opinion they cannot give any facts they just have hatred, he is the evil devil. People in the US and even many other western countries want change. Governments are destroying their lives and countries. Any strong different leader can tap into that. Kennedy is polling higher than Trump or Biden for President and he doesn’t have the Trump Derangement Syndrome provided by the Democrats to deal with.
If Trump wins, then America is well and truly lost:
https://mythfighter.com/2024/01/27/as-america-begins-its-descent-into-hell/