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stewart
2 years ago

Thermostat theory: the theory that temperatures all around the world can be regulated with carbon dioxide.

That is the entire premise for getting rid of combustion engine cars and being forced to buy electric cars, for forcing people to get rid of gas boilers and replace them with electric heat pumps, for producing electricity with expensive wind and solar technology rather than cheap fossil fuels, for prohibiting people from driving their cars in city centres and for a range of other insane policies to be inflicted on us.

All on the basis of a ridiculous unproven theory that has been obscured with grandiose terms like global warming and climate change designed to confuse and bamboozle the general public.

D J
D J
2 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Could do with a bit of global warming as I pedal to work today!

stewart
2 years ago
Reply to  D J

Well, according to the Thermostat Theory you just need to add a bit of CO2 into the atmosphere.

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  stewart

“That is the entire premise for…”

Is it the entire premise? Is there not also the argument that fossil fuels are limited and therefore that we should not use them all up to the detriment of future generations?

stewart
2 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

Whose rationale? Yours or theirs?

Theirs is very clearly all about carbon. Carbon reduction is the entire rationale used to force us into Net Zero, electric cars, heat pumps, wind farms. And if we don’t do all those things there will be a climate catastrophe. The clock is ticking, the last few seconds, either we act now or we are finished, all of that.

The other arguments like limited fossil fuels or confusing pollution with CO2 serve to bring along people, perhaps like yourself, who don’t necessarily buy the thermostat theory but are somehow emotionally attracted to the idea of renewable energy, clean air. The pushers of thermostat theory seem quite happy for people to conflate all of those things if it makes them support their “climate policies”.

A successful religion will let people make up their own little stories if it brings them into the fold.

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  stewart

As you say, the other side (not including me, for the avoidance of doubt) is using various arguments to try to convince us to cut down on fossil fuels, the main one being so-called “man-made climate change”. Hence my questioning your “entire premise” statement.

Lockdown Sceptic
2 years ago

Eco Zealots MPs Destroy Britain

latest leaflet to print at home and deliver to neighbours or forward to politicians, media, friends online. 

07a-Eco-Zealots-MPs-Destroy-Britain-MONOCHROME-copy
Mogwai
2 years ago

Anybody else getting their posts censored regularly? Either partly or completely removed? I am, despite the fact they don’t breach the above, ”Profanity and abuse will be removed…” warning. Meanwhile sweary and abusive posts seem to remain untouched. How peculiar.
So I’ve emailed the DS team ( twice actually ) to see if they’d at least be courteous enough to give me an explanation, because with this unwarranted, excessive censorship of posts, they do rather come across as completely hypocritical. They are guilty of the very thing they allegedly oppose and ‘free speech’ is clearly not being supported in reality.
I just wanted to see how widespread this sneaky tactic of the DS team is before I get my paranoid head on.

DS99
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I got one censored the other day, it was asking someone else to clarify why they were being disparaging about the daily round up editor that day. At first, like you, I thought bl**dy hypocrites but as I’ve always said there’s free speech and then there’s codes of conduct. And perhaps it wasn’t polite of me to invite another member to so publically call out one of our hosts? Ideally, they should make the boundaries clear but some of your posts Mogwai might not be the tone they want in their space. I know we’re on the internet but essentially this is their space. I don’t think any of them would stop you from speaking your truth in the public square (or on your own bit of the internet) but this isn’t the public square, it’s the DS cyber space. I’m happy to be challenged on that but that’s just as I see it. Edit: This has led me to another thought, maybe the problem with the internet is whilst you’re free to say what you want on the internet, the tech giants who presumably (correct me if I’ve got that wrong) create the algorithms that dictate what shows up… Read more »

Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  DS99

Then I think that we deserve some clarification of the boundaries then, don’t we? Because there seems to have been some significant changes taking place behind the scenes, and we’ve not been notified of them. So even if you adhere to the above warning you’re still getting censored. Otherwise we’re just guessing what will be deemed ”allowed” or ”disallowed” on any given day, presumably depending on which mod is on shift. And the reason I say that is that rude, abusive posts get to remain but posts such as mine, which are definitely not sweary and abusive, get removed, although I did drop an expletive-heavy one last night, just to see how long it’d last. And I think you’re doing yourself down. I don’t think your post sounded like it warranted being removed. More the post of the OP, for being so impolite in the first place. All you were doing is challenging them on it, and since when is that not allowed? Anyway, until DS wish to grace me with a reply to my emails asking for an explanation I’m left in the dark as to what the rules and boundaries are around here, and I’m not a person… Read more »

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Well said, Mogwai. Given your loyalty to the site and your long and extensive posting record, they do owe you the courtesy of clarifying what they are up to. Please keep us informed…

Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

Cheers Michael 🙂 and will do. It just boils down to basic courtesy and respect, at the end of the day, and this surely is a two-way street. It’s telling that I’ve always had timely responses in the past, whenever I emailed them re technical issues I was experiencing, but the more time drags on with no response, the more it becomes obvious that they’re ignoring me. Especially as they’re evidently monitoring my posts on here, and will be seeing me calling their unethical, underhand behaviour out, but they choose the ‘crickets’ approach instead of just replying. They do take the ”free” out of ”free speech” with their behaviour, but we shall see if they’ve anything to say for themselves.

DS99
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I agree with you here, I think it is certainly desirable for there to have been some sort of dialogue privately between you and DS, even if they don’t feel as if they want to state publicly what the boundaries are. I guess the link with the Free Speech Union makes it doubly difficult for them to state what their line is (since many would assume there isn’t one) but they’re only human so you’re also right that it might be depend a bit on who is on moderating duty.

If you approach for some clarification and no response is forthcoming, well only you and DS know what you were posting, so maybe that would give you some insights?

soundofreason
soundofreason
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I’ve got a comment ‘waiting for approval’ right now. It contains links to 3 of my charts.

Updated to add: I also had a comment about the promiscuous Roman emperor re-worded – mod replaced my expression with promiscuous.

soundofreason
soundofreason
2 years ago
Reply to  soundofreason

The obvious potential problem for DS with links to external images is that, as I control them, I could change them to something illegal.

Monro
2 years ago

Another foreign brawl? We can’t even fix our potholes

‘….the delusion that we are a Great Power’

Britain is the world’s sixth largest economy, fifth most powerful nuclear power and one of five permanent members of the security council.

But we have sailors that don’t know how to fight and too many soldiers too fat to fight (22,000 undeployable or of limited deployability out of 80,000; 25%)

So Mr Hitchens has a point.

Why is this so? Not much pay for quite a lot of inconvenience, the military appeals to a very limited number of people.

But the real problem is the NHS: 3.5% of GDP at its inception, 7% now.

The defence budget? 7% in 1950, 2.2% now.

There are very few problems in this country that could not be solved by reducing the size of the public sector, particularly the self licking lollipop that is ‘our’ NHS (we know what to do: look at France, the Netherlands, we just lack a government of any gumption, backbone).

However defence of the realm is one problem that does not lend itself to solution by a thousand cuts.

Jon Garvey
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

According both to US vets, and a recent British vet I know, the problem in the armed forces is largely disillusion. Whether you join up to serve your country, to learn a trade, or to gain kudos or decent pay, the realisation that you are merely fodder for a series of undeclared wars against populations who are no threat to Britain (and even less to an America that decides our foreign policy), with uncertain and constantly changing war aims, and no disengagement policy, leads to deep cynicism against the system under which you serve. You come home and see that you have left behind countries worse off than when you went in – witness Iraq, Serbia, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc, etc. My own suspicion that the high rates of PTSD seen in our veterans are exacerbated by seeing your comrades die in conflicts with no discernible purpose is confirmed by vets I’ve heard discussing it. I agree that the cuts in defence budget are ludicrous, but then little of it is spent on defence of the realm anyway, and most on offence against weaker distant nations… or where a strong nation stands behind them, we just send the weapons and… Read more »

Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

If we want to be able to help our friends, for example, South Korea, Oman, defeat their enemies, liberate the Falklands, Kuwait, Sierra Leone, protect our friends and allies overseas, as we have in the past and should continue to do in the future (we are a nation that relies on overseas trade, after all) then we need an absolute minimum of 3.5% of GDP spent on defence. Forward defence is often a good strategy. Spending on defence encourages our friends and allies overseas to do business with us, and, yes, part of that 3.5% should be spent on a Royal Yacht, invaluable for advancing the commercial and political interests of this country. Ukraine will defend itself whatever we do. But British military aid at least gives that country a better chance of being able to defend itself than hitherto. Many more would have died, would be dying, had we not provided timely assistance. If Putin succeeds in Ukraine, he will not stop there, as a cursory glance at the map makes clear. Once he has encircled the Baltic States via a land corridor to the Russian territory of Kaliningrad, Britain will, once more, be on the brink of war… Read more »

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

I don’t think vaccine mandates in the US went down well with the armed forces – and the ensuing damages to health suffered as a result.

Myra
2 years ago

The Gary Lineker story is interesting.
I don’t particularly like the man but in the spirit of free speech he should be allowed to say what he wants as long as it is not within a BBC broadcast.
Lots of ‘celebrities’ give us their views on life. They all have bigger platforms than you and I. But censoring them?
What do you think?

Monro
2 years ago
Reply to  Myra

I’m afraid that I have absolutely no idea who this fellow is.

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  Myra

I think you can’t really split a person from their political views. Therefore, given the BBC’s supposed obligation to be politically neutral, I do think BBC presenters and journalists should be constrained by this obligation, though other employees such as actors maybe should not.

WyrdWoman
2 years ago
Reply to  Myra

Agreed – don’t like him, don’t agree with him but he should have a right to free speech. Yet I wonder if there would be the same furore if he’d asked for the Palestinian footy team to be banned….

FYI – Lineker is not alone. DiEM25.org has set up a petition to suspend Israeli competitors from all sports until their apartheid regime is ended, citing South Africa as precedent. Intl Ice Hockey Fed has suspended the Israeli team for security concerns ‘until the safety of all can be guaranteed’. Demonstrations currently ongoing in Indonesia requesting the withdrawal of Israel from the FIFA U21 world cup later this year.

Boomer Bloke
2 years ago

‘He fondled her jelly babies and she rubbed his tic tacs’

Is going to hell? No, deserves a knighthood, except we all know they are meaningless baubles.

Dinger64
2 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

Is he referring to one of his brothers?🙄

Dinger64
2 years ago

“For most crops the saturation point will be reached at about 1,000–1,300 ppm under ideal circumstances.”

atm the current world saturation point of co2 is 0.04 % or 400ppm!
Far from ideal
At 0.02% or 200ppm plants begin to die! This is a scientific provable fact!
The current global target is to halve co2 in the atmosphere, ergo, mankind’s goal is to attain an extinction level event !

Nigel J Sherratt
Nigel J Sherratt
2 years ago
Reply to  Dinger64

van Wijngaarden and Happer show conclusively that doubling CO2 to 800 ppm will add only 1% to IR absorption, negligible.

https://co2coalition.org/publications/van-wijngaarden-and-happer-radiative-transfer-paper-for-five-greenhouse-gases-explained/

Be a pity if ‘they’ overshoot whilst aiming for 200 ppm, the few survivors will be wholly dependent on CO2 saturated greenhouses, ironic eh?

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  Dinger64

I wasn’t aware of the target of 200 ppm – can you remember where you saw that?

Dinger64
2 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

Not a specific statment although I heard it bantered about Liberaly at the likes of davos to halve climate emission! I would take it they meant co2 as that is the evil poison that will end the world

soundofreason
soundofreason
2 years ago

In “New disease VEXAS syndrome manifests after Covid and vaccination” – Some vaccinated and Covid-infected people are being diagnosed with a new type of auto-inflammatory disease called VEXAS syndrome, reports the Epoch Times. we find: Symptoms of VEXAS syndrome are highly variable and nonspecific, Dr. Savic said.Patients may develop weight loss, fever, malaise, skin rashes, and joint and tissue inflammation. We used to call this ‘old age’. As we (mankind) delay death longer and longer I believe we can expect more of this. Here we can see how the average age at death (excluding under 1s) in England and Wales has increased since 1841. We can see the impact of the first and second world wars on the male population and the 1918 ‘flu on both male and female populations. See that little blip at 2021? Well that’s either Covid-19 or something else. Contrast that with 2020 when there wasn’t anything except Covid. Note that average age at death is not the same as life expectancy – but it is related. Source: https://mortality.org. Unfortunately living longer is not unalloyed good news. Here we see the increasing likelihood that people will die of dementia the longer they live. Yes, if you… Read more »