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NeilParkin
2 years ago

Will Zarah Sultana quit Labour if it is ‘institutionally racist’?
Of course she wont. How she has the brass neck as a muslim woman selected by the Labour Party and standing in the House of Commons, that anything is ‘islamaphobic’, beggars belief.

Jon Garvey
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

And there we were, thinking the Labour Party was institutionally anti-semitic. It could be that they’re secretly against everyone (institutionally), or perhaps more likely that the “institutional” epithet is about bandied about as manipulatively as the terms”far right,” “racist,” “white supremacist” and so on to oblivion.

JeremyP99
2 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

Well, Starmer has said in public he prefers Davos to the House, which means that Labour will be institutionally anti all of us.

Regardless, this “institutionally…” nonsense needs to stop. How is it measured and graded? It’s just someone’s opinion. And like arseholes, we all have opinions and most of them stink. Ms. Sultana’s more than most, tho’ not as much Naz ” Shut up for the sake of diversity” Shah.

This government has been appalling. The next will be far far worse. The toast in our household is “Fuck ’em ALL”.

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  NeilParkin

Perhaps Islamists should be less aggressive in the promotion of their ideology which is giving rise to Islamophobia. It is promoting fear not hatred.

Mogwai
2 years ago

Yep, when the likes of Islamists and Jihadists such as Hamas go on like this and it gets spread online it doesn’t exactly make decent, normally tolerant folk warm to them. But like I’ve said multiple times now; ”When people show you who they are, believe them.” Nothing much ambiguous about this and they’ve made no secret of their feelings since forever. Peaceful outcome and two-state solution anyone?;

”Hamas’ massacre of Israelis on October 7 shocked everyone in Israel and abroad. So did the brutality of the attack, the cruelty of the murders, and the inhumanity of the torture.
But there were warnings, and the slaughter of at least 1,200 Israelis, the wounding of over 4,800, and the kidnapping of at least 238 hostages should not have come as a surprise.
 
One of those warnings was in 2019, when Hamas Political Bureau member Fathi Hammad explained in detail Hamas’ intentions, goals, and aspirations: To murder “every Jew on the planet”:

https://palwatch.org/page/34768

JeremyP99
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Quran the same, as is the Hamas Charter.

MichaelM
2 years ago

The word phobia comes from the Greek: φόβος (phóbos), meaning “aversion”, “fear” or “morbid fear“. 

Source: Wicked Pedia

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  MichaelM

My point. entirely.

MichaelM
2 years ago

I am not clear whether Islamophobia reflects fear or hatred or both. If someone is accused of making an “Islamophobic comment”, I would say they are being labelled as hateful (bad) rather than fearful (deserving of sympathy).

For a fist full of roubles
Reply to  MichaelM

The suffix -misia should be used for hatred or aversion, hence islamomisia.

NeilParkin
2 years ago

Are the richest 1% really to blame for climate change?

Well, if you earn more than £25k, guess what.? Your are in the global top 1%. No point looking down your nose at billionaires. Maybe it would be nice for people to get a view of where they are in Gods great list of wealthy people. They might find they’re doing a lot better than they imagine.

Jon Garvey
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

That’s about the median wage for UK, I gather, meaning that it gives the global institutions the excuse to punish the entire population… ethically, of course, because the UN is very against communal punishment.

NickR
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

You have to be wary of wealth stats. Take a block of 10 luxury flats in Mayfair. Average price, say £5m. Half owned outright, half owned using 100% loans.
Those with the £5m loans have negative wealth of -£5m, are they among the poorest in the world? Statistically, you could claim the block housed the world’s richest & poorest.

Jon Garvey
2 years ago
Reply to  NickR

Exactly – it is not easy to see how anyone in a country owing trillions is rich, except in the sense of the con-man on one surgical ward I worked on, who made everyone believe he was a millionaire, generously left the TV he’d brought in to the hospital – and turned out to have everything on tick when he got arrested. Much like our own imminently collapsing nation.

NickR
2 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

As Warren Buffett memorably said; “it’s only when the tide goes out do you find out who’s swimming without trunks on.”

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Such reports, in my view, are designed to foster resentment, based on nothing more than anecdotal/emotive evidence, to create a narrative that will lead to arguments that pave the way towards more taxes. Basically, it’s all about money, as we all know, and ways in which to justify the continued fleecing of people – this time the top tiers and then it’ll come to everyone else. The billionaires are not worried about such things – they have myriad ways of avoiding taxes. This is certainly not about climate change because there is no emergency and anyone with a functioning brain can work that out. It’s daylight robbery backed up by that sham charity Oxfam.

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Not sure about the £25k. You are saying (I think) that around 80 million people world-wide earn more than £25k. Even if we don’t adjust in order to reflect purchasing power differences, there must be 15-20 million just in the UK earning more than £25k. Add in the rest of Europe, the USA and Canada and you are surely well north of 80 million?

NeilParkin
2 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

I confess I didn’t ask everyone I met, but it was a serious point made by an economist in a report I read. (Might have been Lomberg…) Anyway, here in the west there is a general assumption that with only a car, and holidays, and last years iPhone, people are on the brink of destitution. Of course we have higher living costs, but the notion that is put forward by Oxfam, and others, is ‘the fat cats’ get all the cream, and you’re living one step up from the breadline’. Its bullshit of course. We generally in the West have no idea of what poverty is, and therefore how far up the food chain we are living.

The true irony of the claims by Oxfam is that the green scam is being fuelled almost entirely by the business interests of the ultra billionaires, like Bill Gate’s, who are funding the shouty mouthpieces that are being listened to about this crazy nonsense. In turn they dont care at all.

EppingBlogger
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Most reporters and not a few who claim to be economists can distinguish between income and wealth. As posts below also highlight the difference between gross and net assets also eludes them.

Not only schools and universities shown to be negligent in their teaching but the FCA is also at fault. Its objectives in law include financial education. Their efforts seem to be limited to encouraging customers to claim and complain.

NeilParkin
2 years ago

Scotland doesn’t need a ‘non-binary action plan’

If ‘Large nets’ and ‘Psychiatrists couches’ aren’t on the list then its another waste of taxpayer money.

NeilParkin
2 years ago

Germany may ban buying sex as nation is dubbed ‘the brothel of Europe’

..and the winner of the Mary Whitehouse Award is…

While ever there are buyers, there will be sellers. ‘Where there a Willy theres a Way’.

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
2 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

That’s good planning on Germany’s part…a horde of sexually frustrated men who can’t get it through the usual legitimate ways. I wonder what they would do?

NeilParkin
2 years ago

‘Never embrace the ideals of socialism’” 

Well said, but I’m not sure I’d sit in front of any windows.

Steve-Devon
2 years ago

Electrify – You Do the Maths

Well this commentator may be an EV enthusiast but he has had a go at doing the maths;

https://twitter.com/AntonioTweets2/status/1724294632522088703

If he is anything like correct? then this adds to the accumulating body of logistical evidence that the net-zero dream of electrifying everything is more of a nightmare than a dream. With current technology the idea that we can electrify everything looks unattainable, the natural resources, electric supply, the grid infrastructure, the manufacturing and re-cycling capacity, all look likely to limit the ‘electrify dream’.

The question then is, given the zealous ardour of the net-zero enthusiasts, how is this going to play out in the coming years? It is difficult not to conclude that a cold, messy, car-less and dismal future is what net-zero will bring to many of us.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Indeed. Going all-electric is an evil and/or stupid idea. You could probably do it with nuclear power, though we’d need a long time to get to that point.

JohnK
2 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

He sounds about right. Averaged over a year, my house electric use is ~0.5 kW per hour, but the real issue is the capability of any local distribution. With those units that he is using, there is either a special distribution cable to them all that can handle it, or maybe there is a local storage battery to assist short term high load if a group of them all turn up with their cars. However, if there is a big increase in home charging, the capacity of distribution cables will become a significant problem. https://youtu.be/LS8VFhRMsYY shows what happened recently near me, with the local DNO replacing all their buried cable, including a bit about the rating, and a bit about the latest BS 7671 re EV charging (in the introductory notes and towards the end). At present, there is only one house in my street with an EV charger, which is no longer in use. Essentially, for normal things, all the cables are not able to meet all the peak demand for domestic kit simultaneously, on the basis that it hardly ever happens. This is technically called “load diversity”. Not everyone uses their peak load at the same time. However, because… Read more »

transmissionofflame
2 years ago

“The question that the Covid Inquiry needs to answer is whether the lockdowns made a fundamental difference, says the Telegraph in a leading article.”

Nope, the questions are:
1) Was there a pandemic (hint – there wasn’t)
2) Are lockdowns ever justified, and should the state have that power (hint – definitely not)
3) How to calculate the cost side of a lockdown (hint – you need to come up with a value for being able to enjoy normal life, per day per person, and it will need to be a large amount)
4) Is saving lives at all costs morally justifiable (hint – no)
5) Is “saving lives” possible (hint – no, you can only postpone death)
6) Are people “responsible” for spreading respiratory viruses (hint – no)
7) What is the aim of “lockdowns” if not to wait for a “vaccine”, hastily developed and poorly tested (hint – there isn’t one)

As long as people are arguing about whether lockdowns “worked” (whatever that means) then they’ve accepted the fiction of a “pandemic” and the principles that lockdown can be justified and has a point – in other words, we’re lost. The so-called sceptical Telegraph still doesn’t grasp it.

JayBee
2 years ago

Good points.
I’d add the bodily autonomy abolition via mandating tests, masks and drugs question (hint- *#&# NO!) and the criminal sabotaging of existing treatments (ditto) one.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Good points

stewart
2 years ago

Absolutely right.

Lockdowns achieved what those who promoted it set out to achieve which is establish mRNA technology.

The whole thing was driven by those within the WHO, medical and “philanthropic” industries who were heavily invested in the development of mRNA technology.

They blitzed the major medical institutions and governments to convince everyone that there was an extraordinarily deadly pathogen circulating, they persuaded them to go down the lockdown route and they persuaded them that mRNA jabs were the only way out.

When alternative jab technologies were proposed an approved (like the Chinese one, or the Russian one, or the AstraZeneca one) they attacked those options brutally to discredit them.

The whole thing was an operation to drive mRNA technology.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Indeed. The only “logic” to lockdowns is to lock down for long enough to roll out a “safe and effective” vaccine. Once they had started with lockdowns the only way out (according to their twisted/pretend logic) was a vaccine, so they had to come up with something, no matter whether it was safe or effective.

ELH
ELH
2 years ago

Lockdowns and jabs were not necessary last time and will not be necessary next time either – this is what we have to keep reminding everyone.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  ELH

Why should we expect a “next time?”

huxleypiggles
2 years ago

I disagree with your reasoning tof. The C1984 was always the excuse for the so-called “vaccines” which, let us not forget, were developed with in-built maim and kill functions. Lockdowns and the rest of the nonsense paraphernalia were introduced in order to ramp up the fear and to incubate the idea that our salvation and release could only be achieved via acceptance of the jabs. The “vaccines” in everybody’s arms was always the end goal. Let us not forget that ‘Covid’ was planned way before 2020. The simulation exercise of October 2019 was simply the Davos Deviants way of advertising what was coming – as is their normal mode de emploi. As I have posted previously and on good authority the Astra Zeneca “vaccine” was ready and stockpiled by mid 2021 – actually maybe that was 2020 – so the scenario that was played out was simply theatre. We have moved from one pantomime to another. I notice the NR has referenced the UN openly admitting that lower birth rates is one of their goals. I have repeatedly referred to the depopulation plans that are an integral part of the Davos Deviants planning and I am convinced that the constant… Read more »

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I certainly don’t think what you say is necessarily inaccurate. My “reasoning” was more to try and set out what could have been a plausible case in the eyes of the public, assuming all were acting in good faith (which they most certainly were not). It’s not a case I believe.

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  stewart

And what do we think is the end-goal of establishing mRNA technology? Partly money, but presumably also other goals related to depopulation and transhumanism?

stewart
2 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

Maybe. But it’s worth remembering that a lot of evil is perpetrated by people who, in their minds, think they are doing something worthwhile.

My working hypothesis is that the people behind mRNA vaccines think that, if they can get it right, it can cure all sorts of things. Like cancer. And of course be successful and make a tonne of money in the process.

We tend to think that horrible, evil acts are committed by people who want to hurt others. But more often and at a much bigger scale they are committed by people with god complexes that have a “vision” and don’t mind breaking a few eggs, as it were, to achieve their vision.

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Probably a bit of both. Arguably the most damage is actually done by people who think they are doing good, because others are more likely to believe their delusions.

JohnK
2 years ago
Reply to  stewart

And their attitude to the concept of “safety integrity level” may well be abnormal compared with much of industry outside the medical field, dealing with illnesses that are a lot more serious than the matter under consideration. Granting the emergency use authorisation was like a red rag to a bull. If the products produced really were “safe and effective”, they would have made a top dollar investment, along with he prospect of doing the same again, and widening the market.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

“goals related to depopulation and transhumanism?”

Correct.

huxleypiggles
2 years ago

Excellent taking apart of the Hallett pantomime. Nice one tof.👍

transmissionofflame
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Thanks. I must say I do find it quite depressing that so many among those who think lockdowns should not have happened still think there was a pandemic or that lockdowns could have “worked” (whatever that means) or could have been justified, rather than going back to first principles and questioning all the assumptions on which this folly and evil is based.

Mogwai
2 years ago

50+ hostages to be freed by Hamas in exchange for a 4 day ceasefire, plus shed-loads of terrorists walking free. Let’s see how this pans out; ”The government overnight Tuesday approved the deal for the release of some of the hostages being held in Gaza in exchange for the release of Palestinian Arab terrorists who are imprisoned in Israel and at least four days of a ceasefire. The Religious Zionist Party voted in favor of the deal after a consultation among the members of the faction. The ministers from Otzma Yehudit voted against the deal. According to the outline, 50 living Israelis will be released in several batches throughout the four days of the ceasefire. Every day, 12 to 13 hostages will be released. For every 10 additional Israeli hostages who are released – another day of a pause in the fighting will be given.Israeli officials believe that in addition to the 50 hostages, Hamas can release another 30 Israelis. Accordingly, 140 terrorists will also be released in several phases. The IDF will continue to encircle the northern Gaza Strip. In addition, fuel will only enter Gaza during the days of the ceasefire. The IDF and the Israel Security Agency (Shin Bet)… Read more »

A Y M
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

You read trash, you think trash. It’s inevitable.

”A prisoner swap is a key feature of the deal. According to Israeli media, “Israel also agreed to release Palestinian women and minors from prison and let them return to their homes, mostly in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.”
“Israel has avoided offering a specific number, but media has placed the figure at 150,” writes Times of Israel. “A Palestinian Authority minister told Al Arabiya on Tuesday that 350 jailed Palestinian minors and 82 jailed Palestinian women would be freed in the swap.”

Unless you believe the women and children ARE terrorists of course.

Which frankly wouldn’t surprise me. I mean, throwing stones is a terrorist activity surely?

Rose Madder
2 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

I love it when I vote and three come up at once. It is like a fruit machine in the pub.

ELH
ELH
2 years ago
Reply to  Rose Madder

My uptick produced 3 ups and 1 down…(random downticks?)

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  ELH

Ditto…

Mogwai
2 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

Of course I believe women and under 18s are terrorists and terrorist supporters and trainee terrorists. How naive can a person possibly be? The kids all go to Jihad school, where they learn how to hate Jews and kill anyone who’s not like them. The women have extra large families because they’re churning out shed-loads of martyrs. What, facts too ”islamophobic” for you?? LOL
But carry on ignoring any of the evidence I share on here because it challenges your delusions, but know one thing; denying the facts doesn’t make them any less factual. For your’s and anyone else’s benefit, a previous share. Congressman vs DoD lady. Not all combatants are men and not all of them are adults. Straight from the horse’s mouth, >2mins 30secs;

https://twitter.com/NiohBerg/status/1726172319842791672

Coup detat
2 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Are you STILL posting articles from the Israel National news outlet…
You Mogs are simply beyond idiotic and obviously have no idea how the world works, to be honest is just embarrassing 🤦‍♂️
Its like debating Covid and quoting SAGE 😂

huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  Coup detat

Coup detat:

Joined DS November 18th 2023.

When you have a track record of learned posting on DS somewhere close to Mogwai’s your crummy opinions might be just about tolerable. Until that time keep your fingers in your pockets and away from a keyboard.

Coup detat
2 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Get to feck… You pompous git… Don’t go telling me what to do..
I didn’t realise this is yours and Mogs forum…..
Pair of pseudo intellectuals.. Think you own the show

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  Coup detat

You have directed personal ad hominem attacks on both HP and Mogwai. HP was merely calling you out for your ad hom on Mogwai, and he didn’t ad hom you. So, I don’t think you should be trying to take the high moral ground on this one.

Coup detat
2 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

Don’t you….

huxleypiggles
2 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

Thank you Michael.

JayBee
2 years ago

Study from Germany done in the real world showed that installing air filters in Kindergartens actually resulted in twice as many Covid cases among kids where it was done compared to where it was not done!
As Catweazle would have said: Nothing works!
To the contrary. https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/13/7/e072284

Lockdown Sceptic
2 years ago

British Steelmaking Won’t Survive Net Zero – latest leaflet to print at home and deliver to neighbours or forward to politicians, media, friends online. 

10b-Net-Zero-Drives-Inflation-MONOCHROME-copy
Lockdown Sceptic
2 years ago

Regarding Steelmaking – latest leaflet to print at home and deliver to neighbours or forward to politicians, media, friends online. 



10a-British-Steelmaking-Wont-Survive-Net-Zero-MONOCHROME-copy
Monro
2 years ago

Due to popular demand, what is really going on: Ukraine has not mobilised a large number of its younger people, preferring to recruit those with some military training/experience. Most Ukrainian soldiers get less than five weeks training (2nd WW Brit. soldiers got minimum of 20 weeks) Too few trained staff officers for operations larger than company groups. Officer training takes four months, staff officer training a further 3 months. Likewise, Russians keep attacking with untrained troops in small numbers – heavy losses. Russia believes the war will go on for at least another three years. Consequently, the U.S. is ramping up its defence industry (used to produce 75 M1 Abrams tanks/month 1980s, now only 12/month, for the moment). But Europe lacks defence industrial capacity and the financial case for increased private investment does not exist. But the Ukrainian conflict is similar to the Syrian conflict. Defeat is not an option. Any negotiated settlement will simply be expedient, for both sides. The problem for Ukraine is that only the U.S. can credibly (in terms of supply scale) help it and the U.S. strategy is simply ‘We want to see Russia weakened to the degree that it can’t do the kinds of… Read more »

AethelredTheReadier
AethelredTheReadier
2 years ago
Reply to  Monro

What’s your source for this, Monro? Just interested.

Monro
2 years ago

RUSI/FT.

ELH
ELH
2 years ago

As an aside can I thank DS for posting the regular picture of Robert Redford above? Quite makes my morning. I am/was a big fan (until he had his eyes operated on/lifted…not the same). Cary Grant is lovely too and both so clean shaven.

Jon Garvey
2 years ago
Reply to  ELH

We’d better make sure you’re not on any jury trying Robert Redford, then! 🙂

MichaelM
2 years ago
Reply to  ELH

I thought Katharine Ross was beautiful in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

JeremyP99
2 years ago

Any mention of “THE science” is an immediate warning that what we are dealing with is nothing to do with real science, rather, is the peddling of ideology. Climate Change warned us about this many years ago. And when a man declares that he “IS THE SCIENCE”, he needs locking up.