Lockdown Was Necessary to Prevent “Extraordinarily High Loss of Life”, Chris Whitty Tells Covid Inquiry – Despite Sweden
What fresh nonsense is this, coming out of the mouth of Chris Whitty in his second day of evidence at the Covid Inquiry?
Listeners-in today were treated to yet another plateful of steaming tripe from the Chief Medical Officer.
First, he claimed that by the end of October 2020 ministers “did not have much choice” but to impose a second lockdown because infection rates had risen too high. Asked by inquiry counsel Hugo Keith KC, in his characteristically leading way, whether the second lockdown could have been avoided if the tier system of staggered restrictions had been imposed earlier, Whitty said: “I think most people would say that’s the case.” Had tiered restrictions had more time to work “there remains the possibility that the second lockdown might not have been necessary or might not have been as long”, he added.
This is palpable nonsense, of course. The beginnings of the tier system appeared in June 2020 when the first ‘local lockdown’ of Leicester was imposed, with similar measures subsequently extended to other areas, especially in the North. How many months of lockdown does Dr. Whitty think are needed for them to work? It was pointed out at the time that none of these measures succeeded in bringing down infections, with reported new infections doubling in northern areas following the imposition of local measures.
Whitty then used his appearance today to denounce the concept of herd immunity – the sole basis on which an epidemic can end – as a “ridiculous and dangerous” idea, leading listeners to wonder whether Sir Chris has any working understanding of epidemiology at all.
Most egregiously of all, though, the Chief Medical Officer claimed it would have been “inconceivable” to make herd immunity through natural infection a policy goal because “it would have led to extraordinarily high loss of life”.
You’d think I would have become inured to this kind of moronity by now, it being the constant fare of the inquiry and the whole ill-informed mainstream discourse on Covid. But it never ceases to astound me that our top medics and scientists can make such baseless claims despite so much depending on them getting this stuff right.
Extraordinarily high loss of life? Do we really need to to wheel out, once again, in late 2023, the examples of places which did not lock down and experienced outcomes no worse than elsewhere. Sweden, most obviously, whose trajectory was the same as other countries. Florida (after April 2020). South Dakota. Belarus. Tanzania. Clearly, we do.
Where is Sweden’s extraordinarily high loss of life? Or Florida’s? Or South Dakota’s? Claims like Whitty’s still feel like they’re stuck in March 2020, when Neil Ferguson was going round scaring everyone with his silly models that massively over-predicted the impact of the virus everywhere, including Sweden.
But from the inquiry counsel came no probing at all of Whitty’s baseless claim. And so once again a lockdown-supporting myth with no evidence is reinforced, to be echoed we presume in the predetermined conclusions of this biased inquiry.
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One thing’s for sure, he knows the square root of F*** all about immunology.
And he’s our chief medical officer.
Just let that sink in.
The already written conclusion is that we have to lock down harder and earlier, no doubt until we get salvation through a needle full of mRNA – and for the Refuseniks there will be no partaking of society.
If/when they try that again there will be bloodshed. A lot of it.
I’m sure he knows plenty. But he’s happy to lie to others and perhaps even a little bit to himself.
He is being bribed, threatened or blackmailed. He knows he is lying.
Indeed – or he may simply choose to lie because he knows it will advance or preserve his career, without anyone even needing to tell him.
He looks like a man you wouldn’t be happy to see near a junior school.
To be fair, he has to maintain his funding stream!
I doubt there would be bloodshed if They tried it again. Most of my friends are disciples of Chris Whitty (and also of David Attenborough and Greta Thunberg). There were and remain fully paid-up jabbers, maskers and saucepan-bashers, and would immediately re-join the vigilantes outside the cashpoint and railway stations.
Agree. At the office some jabbed up tards are ill with Rona, one with the new scariant – Nora something. I asked if they were recently stabbed and if so that would be the issue (bivalent stabs they are advertising now). Met with incredulous looks. ‘You imply they are not effective and safe?’
We are surrounded by arselings, criminals, half wits, clowns and fake science – and plenty of bribery, fraud and graft.
Bell curve theory posits that half of the population are below average intelligence. Explains it all, really. Imagine, 34 million people who cannot cope with simple logic
Quite, the level of bedwetting was astonishing and admittedly came as a bit of a shock to me, I knew we had bedwetters in society but my lord not to this level.
The conversation that should have arisen during the Covid “pandemic” was what do we as humans expect from our life here on Planet earth, a rational discussion regarding quality of life once in the latter years and that life is certainly not and has never been risk free.
The facts that the average age of death with Covid (with several Co morbidities) was 82.4 years while the average life expectancy here in the UK is 81 years failed to wake people up from the state/media Induced mass Psychosis.
And here we have, 2 years later, after all the data that’s been available the medical chief officer spouting the same BS rhetoric.
When Tyranny becomes law
Rebellion becomes Duty
I think the only time the average age of death was mentioned on the BBC was when that pub landlord threw Sir Keir out of The Raven in Bath. Back then I had a Facebook account and would drop in compliments to him and slag off the ‘Sheep’ staff of his.
Context and perspective are vital elements to any debate.
For what is data without context?????
I got accused of making stuff up when I quoted the average age of death stat. When I told them it was the ONS ‘But people under 40 have died’. It’s so deflating that people you respect can be so thick.
Yet what he says completely disregards the Pandemic preparedness papers that was followed by Sweden (Sweden had a stronger Constitution that may explain their light touch approach).
On this inquiries logic we should be locked down to protect those with a peanut allergy, we should be locked down to prevent those with immune deficiency possibly catching a small infection.We should ban cars and transport to stop people getting injured by them, we should stop all sports because of the same logic.
Remember the old WEF Gates line, no one is safe until everyone is safe.
We all know what the inquiry is going to say, it was what the terms of reference set out it would before this started, what a waste of time and money. But it does allow everyone to see first hand how in contempt the coterie in Whitehall along with the civil servants hold us.
‘When William was our king declared
To ease the nation’s grievance,
With this new wind about I steered,
And swore to him allegiance;
Old principles I did revoke,
Set conscience at a distance;
Passive obedience was a joke,
A jest was non-resistance.
And this is law, I will maintain,
Until my dying day, Sir,
That whatsoever king shall reign,
I’ll be the Vicar of Bray, Sir.
When gracious Anne became our queen,
The Church of England’s glory,
Another face of things was seen–
And I became a Tory:
Occasional Conformists base,
I scorned their moderation,
And swore the church in danger was
By such prevarication.
And this is law, I will maintain,
Until my dying day, Sir,
That whatsoever king shall reign,
I’ll be the Vicar of Bray, Sir.’
Too specialised and narrow minded, and influenced by his shares, perhaps. Time will tell if his tactic was effective for marketing certain products.
“Despite Sweden”
Well, they don’t need to worry about Sweden. In fact they don’t need to worry about anything much. There’s very little appetite for the truth outside of a few nutters on sites like this. Most powerful people and institutions went along with it, or instigated it. Most other people were fooled. Why would anyone admit to being wrong? Very few people have anything to gain from the truth.
Who to listen to regarding a common cold coronavirus, a man with experience of malaria and Ebola (Gumby Whitty) or an expert on the common cold (D.A.J. Tyrrell):
‘It is therefore arguable that in the case of infections like coronavirus or rhinovirus colds, which are normally quickly self-limited, the best approach would be to relieve the patient’s discomfort and disability and leave their immune system to take care of the virus.’ (A view from the common cold unit).
Hmmmm…….tricky……or not really…….?
Indeed. Set up in an old temporary WW2 hospital unit near Salisbury, Wiltshire, where the term “coronavirus” was invented, having made use of the relatively new electron microscope. They realised that there was a wide range of slightly different “Rhinoviruses” that a habit of tweaking themselves – a bit like us, so not an easy market for any new “vaccine” product.
The interesting bit there is that there is not or ever has been an electronmicrograph of Covid 19. That is because there has never been a pure sample. The strange question is why not? Surely they have plenty to purify with all these dead people who they refuse to PM or test in any way? Then the “sequencing” computer program which has built in characteristics to match predictions from thin air? Dr Vernon Coleman had it correct from the beginning, “The Greatest Scam ever”.
Science in the 21st century: try something that has been tried in the past and failed, with plenty of evidence to back up the failure (hiding under the bed, masks). Then when it, once again, fails – keep doing it again and again regardless. You just didn’t pray lockdown hard enough, the preacher scientist cried, it is you that has failed, not God The Science. After the lockdowns failed and failed again, we turned to the almighty vaxx, our saviour – except, of course, that it wasn’t. It too failed, so jab and jab again, the 50th time may be the charm (‘cos, The Science, ya know). As each jab failed, blame the unvaxxed, blame the newly ‘anti-vaxx’ who said 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 jabs was enough to conclude the vaxx did not work, blame the continually mutating virus (which by definition meant the vaxx could never work, but nevertheless, the solution was to keep jabbing) – a virus that data seemed to indicate mutated with each new round of stabs. Since the stabbing on a grand scale stopped, so did all the super-duper variants – now all just weak versions of omicron. I’d have more faith… Read more »
LDs killed injured destroyed terrorised reduced infantilised and erased all our freedoms. There was not a pandemic – except of fake cases, hypochondria and fascism.
30K killed by Midazolam during LD1?
How many committed suicide or died of an overdose or are now an alcoholic?
How many businesses, and families destroyed?
No one cares.
They LD to jab you and to turn you into a slave.
Well I have read horror stories of how people ‘escaped’ Hospital after being put on the ‘Pathway’, dosed up on Morphine & Medazolam and one guy stripped naked so he doesn’t run off. Or what about the denial of early treatments? or the excess deaths now?
What about the antibodies from blood samples showing the virus in Europe long before the turn of 2020. So many questions that they rather we ignore.
Once again, Witless is out of his head.
Sir Patrick Vallance has moved onto the Climate Emergency.
I am concerned. Surely his pants on fire constitute a gross threat to global warming?
The inquiry will come to its preordained conclusions in due course. Hallelujah Hallet will get a peerage and we’ll all doff our caps and say ‘Thank’ee ma’am’
“Florida (after April 2020). South Dakota. Belarus. Tanzania.”
But not only the places that didn’t lock down. There are now plenty of studies that show no correlation between COVID deaths and severity of restrictions. It seems Witty is still relying on models based on the assumptions they predict, which have been invalidated in the real world.
But then so have climate models.
Are we still talking ‘covid deaths’ in full knowledge of the utter nonsense that figure is? We must consider all-cause deaths during the period of the hoax pandemic. I have attached the ONS weekly all-cause deaths from 1st January 2020 to those released yesterday. The hoax pandemic finished in the second week of June 2020, when weekly deaths were ‘normal’. It continued normal until the second week in October. Even the hoax had finished! But I have always been puzzled by what happened to cause the hump in deaths up to Christmas. A new hoax? Let’s have a look at average age of death. As we all know, the average age of a ‘covid death’ in April-May 2020 was around 82. But it was still 81 in October 2020. Note that those who die a ‘covid death’ last on average at least 3 years longer than those who die from all-causes! Has anyone heard of the ‘Midazolam murders’? There was over-prescription of this lethal end-of-life drug – quite inappropriate for respiratory disease – during the peak deaths March-May 2020. Did they also over-prescribe in October-December 2020? I dug out the number of prescriptions and plotted them against weekly deaths. Bingo!… Read more »
And an excellent case it is. The question is why we are not allowed to put this to Witty to answer? The enquiry is a fraud on the Public (again) at huge Public cost, to try to show that no one had any error or fault at all. In fact it is the wrong enquiry, it should be a Serious Fraud enquiry into where the money went, with proper penalties at the end. Then we would hear the truth!
It seems it was Neil Ferguson et al’s Imperial College Report 9, 16 March 2020, that dictated suppression of ‘the virus’, aka lockdowns and restrictions, “until a vaccine becomes available”.
It wasn’t disclosed in Ferguson et al’s report that Neil Ferguson is funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, arguably the world’s biggest pusher of vaccine products.
Ferguson et al’s report was hugely influential on the grossly disproportionate and ill-targeted global response to Covid-19 – is it a focus of attention at the Hallett Inquiry?
I queried the influence of Neil Ferguson in my BMJ rapid response published on 25 March 2020, saying,
See: Is it ethical to impede access to natural immunity? The case of SARS-CoV2.
Was anyone in the scientific and medical establishment questioning the influence of the BMGF-funded Neil Ferguson in March 2020?
Further to my previous comment, in my email to Neil Ferguson on 23 March 2021, I said: Professor Ferguson, in your Imperial College Report 9, you argue for a suppression strategy, saying: “The major challenge of suppression is that this type of intensive intervention package – or something equivalently effective at reducing transmission – will need to be maintained until a vaccine becomes available (potentially 18 months or more) – given that we predict that transmission will quickly rebound if interventions are relaxed.”Who decided on the mass vaccination intervention? Wasn’t it known at the time that the virus wasn’t a threat to everyone? It appears now it’s mainly the elderly with comorbidities who are at risk of the virus. So why was it planned to vaccinate the entire global population?Was the vaccine response initiated at the behest of one of your funders, Bill Gates?[1] Gates outlined his global Covid-19 vaccine plans in his article published in April 2020: What you need to know about the COVID-19 vaccine. https://www.gatesnotes.com/What-you-need-to-know-about-the-COVID-19-vaccineWhy is a software billionaire dominating international vaccination policy?We are now seeing calls for people of all ages, including children, to be vaccinated with fast-tracked experimental Covid-19 vaccine products.In The Telegraph today, it’s reported… Read more »
‘……didn’t anyone think to do ‘modelling’ of the social and economic costs of the interventions? One person thought about it: ‘As George Parker and colleagues reported in the Financial Times in July 2020: “Only Jesse Norman, a Treasury minister, raised any doubts, asking whether there had been any cost-benefit analysis of the economic and health impacts of lockdown or consideration of less onerous alternatives. Around the room there were blank looks: the decision had been taken.” Hopeless incompetence. Everyone knows who was responsible, but no-one accountable. Everyone knows what to do: ‘The incentives for Treasury civil servants to take risk preparedness more seriously should be sharpened. The recruitment of a new head of risk management with external expertise is welcome……..the head of the civil service should have a statutory “responsibility to maintain the capability of the UK government… including as regards risk management and crisis response”. ……enshrining within a new civil service statute, responsibilities “to undertake reasonable contingency planning to deal with potential policy changes and emergencies” and “to identify long-term trends and potential future policy options”. This would give the Treasury permanent secretary greater scope and responsibility to devote some resources to risk planning, even if ministers were not… Read more »
No. What do you expect, it would be an admission of stupidity?
Blimey…
People were incarcerated, kept from family and friends, muzzled, surveiled, and injected…without authentic voluntary informed consent.
Untold billions were stolen from the people for this phony crisis.
Worst of all, personal autonomy and bodily integrity were stolen.
There’s a lot of crimes to consider…and bring the perpetrators to account for this misfeasance…
Chris Whitty. The man who single handedly destroyed the UK economy. How does, he sleep at night?
Boy he sure can tell em, if he was pinochio he wouldnt be able to walk because the length of his nose would tip him over.
What was it “A lie told once remians a lie, but a lie told a thousan times becomes the truth”
A quote from another very evil human being, who belonged to a very evil set of people. I hope Whitty believes the selling of his soul is worth it.
The Government DOWNGRADED Covid to a Low Consequence Infectious Disease 5 days BEFORE the first lockdown.
The justification …. because they had more information and knew it had low mortality rates. Presumably the advice had come from the likes of Whitty, who had previously estimated a 1% mortality rate.
It turns out it was even lower …. 0.2% ….. and nearly all very elderly/frail or already seriously ill, so basically knocking on Heaven’s door.
He is now just revising history.
All this despite the fact that NO RSV has ever been stopped in its tracks by any intervention. All have run their natural course. Human hubris decided otherwise, and we are now living with the consequences in every sphere of human life. And a collapse of trust in the medical profession.
String the bastards up.
Rewriting of history taking place as per normal. For the government to admit they knowingly pushed a dangerous jab onto the unsuspecting public would start a civil uprising the likes of which we have never witnessed, so it will not happen!
Honesty in politics? Nah that will never happen!
Two phrases I have picked out from these comments which sum up the whole sorry debacle.
The man is an arrogant cretin. On what planet can he now say that lockdowns made much difference, especially given the massive, practical experiment that was Sweden. Sack him from whatever job he is doing because he is clearly incompetent
Whitty is strange but not stupid. Why is he saying things that are provably nonsensical and demonstrably wrong?
it is not possible he doesn’t know the cvd19 threat was officially downgraded to the status of seasonal flu in mid Mar-20.
It is scarcely possible it wasn’t at his initiation that the downgrading was done. He was still saying at that time, just a few days before lockdown 1, that most people would recover from cvd19 without even knowing they had had it.
He knows the Cvd19 case-fatality rate for fit-and-well under-65s was 0.02%, and that any extraordinary loss of life could only come from people who were already at death’s door because of extreme age frailty or from pre-existing serious illness or from morbid obesity. No one else was at any risk.
He also knows that all-cause deaths in England peaked on 10-Apr-20, which was 10 days before lockdown 1 could have reduced then.
So why is he saying there would have been an extraordinary loss of life without lockdown?
It must be because he is being bribed or coerced.
The only reason this is “palpable nonsense” and this “professor” knows he is telling lies when he says “ministers did not have much choice but to impose a second lockdown because infection rates had risen too high” is that the entire Covid fraud was based on fake-positive PCR tests! Everyone should know that by now. I learned it in a little book written by our dear Prof Sucharit Bhakdi years ago! But that piece of news, on which the whole con trick is based, has certainly been buried! It was very easy for labs to find a whole host of false positives if governments ordered them to do so. Everyone should know by now that even Coca-Cola up the nose would give a “positive” result. As would a normal cold. And on that basis, millions of people were isolated for weeks, terrified, kept off work, etc. and the entire economy was destroyed, while the UK government still thinks it’s acceptable to give away billions for various wars and to various other causes in third countries – even worse now that Cameron’s come back. Trying to make us bankrupt are they? In preparation for the Central Bank Digital Currency to be… Read more »