Welsh Government Announces Gender Self-ID Plans

The Welsh Government is to redefine women to include self-identifying transgender ‘women’ under planned new laws. The Telegraph has more.

The proposal was revealed on Sunday in a leaked draft of its Gender Quotas Bill which proposes that half the candidates in any list to be members of the Senedd must be women.

For the purposes of the proposed legislation this includes transgender women, the report stated

The definition further stated that transgender meant “a person who is proposing to undergo, is undergoing or has undergone a process (or part of a process) for the purpose of reassigning [their] sex to female by changing physiological or other attributes of sex”.

It also stated that a constituency returning officer could not challenge or make any inquiry in relation to a statement made by a candidate.

David TC Davies, the Welsh Secretary, told the Telegraph he had “grave concerns” about the report and was meeting members of various groups to discuss the proposals.

“One of my greatest fears is that the plan will have a detrimental impact on women’s rights across our country. Those rights have been hard fought for and I fear could now be undermined by the Labour-run Welsh Government’s ill-thought policy,” he said.

Worth reading in full.

Of course, scarcely less objectionable than the gender self-ID element is the proposal itself, which is pure positive discrimination that disadvantages men by patronising women. After 13 years, why have the Conservatives failed to outlaw this kind of Leftist identitarian nonsense? Do they believe in freedom, meritocracy and equal opportunity, or do they believe in woke social engineering?

Cathy Larkman, Welsh co-ordinator of the Women’s Rights Network, said the proposal “undermines the rights of half of the population of Wales”. She means because self-ID allows men to muscle in on women’s spaces. But in this instance it could equally apply to the rights of men, who are to be henceforth discriminated against in every Senedd election, because fairness or something.

A Welsh Government spokesman said its “proposed model for quotas is designed to maximise the chances of achieving a Senedd comprised of at least 50% women”. This rather gives the game away: “at least” 50% women. They’d be very happy for men to be ‘under-represented’, naturally. Down with the oppressors!

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wokeman
wokeman
2 years ago

A CONservative government has sat on its hand regarding the nonsense that was Blair’s devolution, IE supposed permanent Labour Government in Wales, Scotland and London. These money pits in Scotland,London and Wales ought to have been scrapped in 2010 or definitely 2015. Same goes for the the court of Bliar, the so called supreme court.

JXB
JXB
2 years ago
Reply to  wokeman

Like it sat on its hands since 1948 regarding that nonsense that was Nye Bevan‘s NHS, the money pit of all money pits?

Has there actually been a Conservative Government since the 19th Century?

Marcus Aurelius knew
2 years ago

In one breath, they say gender matters and then immediately contradict themselves.

We must have more women, there are too many men. Oh, and men are women!

What is Welsh for “clowns”?

Marcus Aurelius knew
2 years ago

Apparently it’s “clowniau”.

Which is a rather funny thing in itself.

Hester
Hester
2 years ago

v funny

JXB
JXB
2 years ago

“Welsh”.

Marque1
2 years ago
Reply to  JXB

English or Senedd. Take your pick.

varmint
2 years ago

Just look a that face. ——-Who in their right mind doesn’t take one look at that cretin and runs as fast as they can in the opposite direction? ——There is an old saying that people get the governments they deserve. Surely people in Wales and in Scotland don’t hate the Tories and English so much that they will vole for these parasites that will allow men into their daughters toilet do they, or have everyone driving around at 20mph——–Wake up people in Wales, these silly socialists are taking everything you have from you.

wokeman
wokeman
2 years ago

All revolutions must be permanent otherwise ppl will question the wisdom of the first revolution. The first revolution was the balmy idea women are identical to men.

Free Lemming
2 years ago

Slapping on a frock, trying to stick your old boy up your own backside, and telling people to call you Doris doesn’t mean you’re a woman. It means you’re mentally ill and in need of psychological treatment.

Hester
Hester
2 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Do you think Drakeford will come out? I can just see him in the frock, fright wig, bright blue eyeshadow and fuschia pink lippy, like some insane pantomime dame, which is of course how all real women look in the men to woman world

Marque1
2 years ago
Reply to  Hester

I think I am about to hughey. That is an awful picture to put in someones mind.

stewart
2 years ago

If the people who have power and actually run things want to be represented before society by trans people, that’s up to them, I guess.

Contrary to what we’ve always believed, parliaments in Western democracies are there not to represent the interests of people but to sell pre-determined policies to the people.

MPs are sales reps for established power.

If established power think its better to have some trans people selling their grotesque policies, who am I to tell them otherwise.

JXB
JXB
2 years ago

Why Richard, it profits a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world… but for Wales? – Sir Thomas More, Man For All Seasons

JXB
JXB
2 years ago

Where does it leave the sheep?

nige.oldfart
2 years ago
Reply to  JXB

Probably voting labour again at the next election.

Marque1
2 years ago
Reply to  JXB

Unmolested; except for us real men.

Spritof_GFawkes
2 years ago
Reply to  Marque1

Just be careful you don’t attempt to molest a ram that is identifying as a sheep…

varmint
2 years ago

So a person identifies themselves as something and we are all to accept that. But aren’t we also capable of identifying things? —Yes we are. I am well able to identify an elephant, a hyena, a wart hog and also a woman. ——-I know what a woman is and is NOT.

Lockdown Sceptic
2 years ago

Mark Drakeford

I could think of no words to describe him

DickieA
DickieA
2 years ago

I can think of hundreds. However, the site’s comments policy suggests I would get banned:
“Profanity and abuse will be removed and may lead to a permanent ban.”

varmint
2 years ago
Reply to  DickieA

I am sure your imagination is good enough to come up with plenty of words to describe this parasite that won’t get you banned.

RW
RW
2 years ago

The important thing to note here is that this doesn’t so much discriminate against men but against political opponents of the people controlling the Welsh parliament: Henceforth, it’s going to be illegal for political parties to stand in Welsh elections which don’t have enough female members to be capable of fielding 50% female candidates. If the excerpt sums this up correctly, it’s also only women who will be allowed to stand as independent candidates in future. This means the Welsh illusion of a democracy will become a whole lot less democratic. It’s also easy to see that this is a slippery slope as equal representation of other preferred groups, say, blacks, muslims or gays, is probably going to be the next step after but some are more equal than others has become a generally accepted principle.

varmint
2 years ago
Reply to  RW

I like your clinical assessment on a lot of issues.

sskinner
2 years ago

Considering that the SNP in Scotland enacted the same type of laws there, and how badly that went, then why would anyone try to do the same elsewhere, unless they are complete idiots or morbidly deluded?

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
2 years ago
Reply to  sskinner

Both of the above. Especially when you consider the job that Drakeford had and his son’s criminal behaviour

Myra
2 years ago

I hated come to the conclusion that the devolving power in its current form is not a great idea….

RTSC
RTSC
2 years ago

The Lunacy of the Left and Devolution – demonstrated in one policy.

Remind me what the Not-a-Conservative-Party has done to stop this over the past 13+ years?

Oh that’s right ….. nothing.