“The Covid Inquiry Isn’t Interested in the Truth About Lockdown”
Was lockdown worth it? That’s the basic question the Covid Inquiry should be asking, says Lord Frost in the Telegraph. But it’s increasingly clear that it has predetermined the answer and is just going through the motions. Here’s an excerpt.
I felt vindicated this month when I heard Prof. Mark Woolhouse say – in one of the few revealing points to emerge so far from the sorry spectacle of the Covid Inquiry – that “in the build-up to that November lockdown in England, as far as I could see, SAGE was simply telling the Government it should lock down … There’s good evidence now that that lockdown was not strictly necessary … I think Government was not given, in the build-up to that lockdown, the full range of policy options it should have been given.”
Prof. Woolhouse makes this general point on two or three occasions. You might think it interesting enough to deserve discussion. But no. “Thank you Professor.” And counsel moves on.
I am afraid that it seems to many of those watching the hearings or reading the transcripts of the inquiry that its Chair, Lady Hallett, and the lead counsel, Hugo Keith, are basing their approach on a particular, preconceived, view of the story of the pandemic lockdowns. That is that Covid was obviously dangerous, that lockdowns were the correct solution to the problem, and that the only real question is the timeliness of the Government’s actions, not their merits.
That is certainly the consensus view. It is convenient for many because it allows attention to be focused on the failings of Boris Johnson personally, rather than on those of the Government machine and the people who ran it. That doesn’t make it correct. I have a view on the subject from my own experience – which is that we would have been better off following the Swedish approach – but I don’t claim a monopoly on wisdom. I am willing to be proved wrong. But sadly this inquiry seems unlikely to help me in this one way or the other.
That’s obvious from the direction of questioning of other main witnesses. So far there has been no serious examination of the modelling and why it turned out, repeatedly, to be so wrong. Prof. Neil Ferguson refers briefly to Sweden in passing in his written evidence, but only to dismiss it as a comparator – yet he was not asked about this at all.
Prof. Carl Heneghan tried to bring Sweden into the discussion, but unsuccessfully; the lead counsel seemingly more interested in sneering at his intellectual credentials. And we can’t be sure that Lady Hallett even understands the concept of trade-offs, since, on the issue of masking, she asked one witness: “I’m sorry, I’m not following, Sir Peter. If there’s a possible benefit, what’s the downside?”
And who knows when this inquiry will actually conclude? Let’s not forget that it took Lord Saville 12 years to investigate the events of 15 minutes in Londonderry in 1972, so perhaps we should be looking to the next century before the inquiry’s vast, meandering, and often irrelevant terms of reference have been properly considered.
All this time and effort would have been better spent on focusing on the only important question, the one thing I really want to know. It is whether lockdowns were the right response to a disease with a fatality rate of somewhere between 0.1% and 0.5%.
If we can be confident of the answer to this question, then if we are hit again, we will have a better idea of what to do. But all the efforts to allocate blame, all the email and WhatsApp archaeology, all the rush to point the finger, just make it less likely we will get that answer. Key witnesses will look to protect themselves. No one is going to admit willingly, “in retrospect, I think I got that wrong”. Yet without that we will never discover what was right.
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Remember CLIMATEGATE? ——-Or has it faded from your memory? —Well, this is the Covid equivalent. —-COVIDGATE. —–This is where the sweeping under the carpet takes place just as with the hacked emails from the government funded climate data adjusters exposed them as a bunch of charlatans, and the enquiries found “no wrong doing” Ha ha ha ha jeez. ———Whenever you hear that phrase you know you are being stitched up. ————–“I did nothing wrong” —-You squirming bunch of climate change imposters.
This inquiry will doubtless go the same way as the ones for Climategate, the Surrey Cyanide Flood and Hillsborough: a pre-determined outcome from a referee who is told to get public sector organisations off the hook to shift attribution of blame to the general population.
Quite right, Roy.
And, talking about Hillsborough and the painful tale of the time and effort required to get something like justice, what about the Battle of Orgreave?
Now, I’m certainly not a fan of Arthur Scargill (and half expected him to be made an Earl for his efforts in destroying the Coal Industry), it is beyond doubt that the miners were stitched up by the same Police Officers using identical tactics to those used on Liverpudlian footie fans.
Despite some theatrical moans and groans, strange that the Labour Party always resisted re-opening the Orgreave case.
If you have not already done so I urge you to look (and subscribe) to Carl Heneghan/Tom Jefferson’s substack “Trust The Evidence”.
FWIW, the Inquiry is a complete sham, designed to say we should have have locked down harder and earlier. Oh, and then there’s the miracle jab, which saved mankind.
As a Solicitor I can say (at the risk of being struck off ) that Lady Hallett is an utter RPTB shill – the real powers that be chose her well.
She is a disgrace to my once honourable profession.
Good to know there are still some decent ppl in that profession.
This is a clear instance of government corruption. The executive has set up a kangaroo court with a view to vindicating its decisions, without the slightest concern for scrutiny or truth. Those in support of the policy are treated as oracles; those who defy it are sneered at and ignored. It is almost Soviet – a show trial. But the government in question is not that tatty band of second rate allegedly conservative ministers or MPs – far from it; it is the perma-government we’re dealing with here, in power since Blair and Brown gerrymandered the constitution – just as they gerrymandered the population with replacement levels of immigration. And more and more obviously, it is showing its hand. Since it has depended for years on secrecy and lies, its gradual, unavoidable edging out of shadow should present its enemies with opportunities. Let us seize them.
And yesterday the Online “Harms” Bill got Royal Accent from a fake king in a fake Parliament. Tell me why I’m wrong Toby!
You’re not wrong. We’ve had no Regal Parliament or Royal Assent since the Queen signed away our sovereignty to join the EEC on 1st January 1973 thereby committing treason & in effect abdicating her throne.
25 Barons invoked Article 61 of the Magna Carta when the Lisbon Treaty was going to be signed, this is listed in Hansard.
Since 1973 no act or statute has any validity in law as none have received Royal Assent.
The Great Reset has been long in the planning.
One cannot inherit a throne from someone who has abdicated that throne, he’s Head of State but he’s not a King.
Spot on, Rumpo!
This is not unrelated about a teacher who refused to test & mask who just lost her employment tribunal. I guess this “enquiry” won’t vindicate people who stood against this Global coupe:Primary school teacher who refused to take Covid tests and wear a face mask at the height of pandemic loses discrimination legal battle (msn.com)
I going to dump this here. GB News is now part of the MSM blob with this appointment
https://www.gbnews.com/news/boris-johnson-joins-gb-news-huge-opportunities-lie-ahead
Absolutely, sold out big time, I’ll never ever watch it again..
Boris feking Johnson… Really… Ffs 🤦♂️
Unless he’s so unpopular that advertising revenue goes down when his shows are on!
Killing the channel in the process?? Certainly one way of taking down the supposedly right leaning news channel leaving just the Marxist news blob.
Wonder what Neil Oliver thinks of this!
Agreed – I won’t be watching the Fat Oaf.
I now only watch Nigel and Neil Oliver. And I strongly suspect the latter won’t be there for much longer.
The control noose is being tightened further…
Before signing off for a bit we just want to let you know that The Energy Act 2023 received Royal assent yesterday.
Sadly, despite campaigning against the bill and for removal of provisions relating to £15,000 fines and potential imprisonment for not complying with smart meter and EPC requirements, it is now law.
https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3311/stages/17983
This conversation is utterly and absolutely exhausted.
THE only conversation going forward is how we ensure these Marxists *”#*’s never ever have the capability to do it again.
As a blinding insight into this egregious and incompetent, hopelessly partial, de haut en bas, British establishment self gratification fest of an inquiry, Hallett’s comment could scarcely be bettered :
“I’m sorry, I’m not following, Sir Peter. If there’s a possible benefit, what’s the downside?”
All together now:-
WE REALISED WE COULD GET AWAY WITH IT !!!!
In the light of the latest deal with one of the culprits by GBN as another “presenter”, an opportunity to take him to the cleaners on the “Lockdown” matter might arise? They appear quite pleased that he’s on the books for the time being, but we’ll see.
He will be great TV. Bunter is a chameleon.
I wouldn’t put it past him to make a political comeback, teamed with Farage, the Brexit victors. The conservatives have no-one. Badenoch has backbone but not much charisma.
The inquiry, whose head he appointed, will let him off scot free. Hallett and ‘Sir Peter’ (who she can’t follow) have broadly triangulated where (incredibly) the British public still stand.
With Farage as the ’eminence grise’, a Trump Presidency, a Bunter/Farage combo will be quite some political force to counter……..what, exactly….Kneeler Korma……(much sniggering).
Provided Bunter is simply the talking head for a Farage/Badenoch/Truss (all the right notes, not necessarily in the right order) triumvirate, this country might (not since 1990) actually start to make a bit of progress…….
It’s the hope that kills……..
“ it allows attention to be focused on the failings of Boris Johnson personally, rather than on those of the Government machine and the people who ran it”….And the WEF that run them!
A double trajedy, as some proper science could have been done. Try and sort out the spread of infections in the hosiptals, whether covid, flu etc. etc, as that seems to be a big cause of fatal infections. Did anybody go round swabbing the place trying to work out what was going on? Perhaps it was the lifts? The toilets? Can hepa filters in air con be used to remove the bugs? Or indeed a proper trial on masks to answer the question once and for all. But nobody in charge is interested in doing science, but only following the $cience.
You have to remember that many people look back upon that time with nostalgia. Even at the time there was a significant proportion, I think twenty percent, that wanted the lockdown to be a permanent arrangement. There were all sorts of disruptions. People who hated commuting to work were happy to be able to work from home and could even convince themselves that it was more rational and more environmentally friendly to do so given that they were just working on computers all day. There was a sense also in 2019 of the exhaustion with the monetised debt model and this was felt if not considered all the way down the chain. If you really want to understand this time – it hasn’t ended we are still in the earliest stages then you have to consider a great deal and it should be a pleasure to do so if you are concerned about the truth. Taking such an enquiry at face value is essentially denial of a much wider context.
Most inquiries of this type are whitewashes anyway. What’s notable about this one is that virtually the entire rich world establishment, virtually all significant national and global institutions, public and private, and a sizeable proportion of the general public, pushed it or went along with it. Where is the incentive to find the truth? Who would drive it? Who stands to gain from this?
I think a fair few people realise the folly and evil of it all, but not many will admit it even to themselves.
I think we’ll all be long dead before history judges what happened correctly.
I can’t think of any other event in human history that has been so wicked and so stupid and at the same time has been so widespread and so virtually unopposed. Most other events of similar magnitude have been more localized and encountered more opposition.
The glorious exception to your point about Inquiries is Sir Herbert Edmund Davies “Inquiry into the Disaster at Aberfan on October 21st, 1966”.
His masterful “Report” on the findings is factually first class and led to positive solutions which greatly reduced the risk of an ensuing similar disaster.
BUT, no more coal spoil heaps, of course and I am sure that the main lessons, very widely applicable, have now been forgotten.
And I know that those most guilty of burying 116 children alive, were not punished and, for political reasons, in at least one case, were actually rewarded.
Thanks; I wasn’t aware of that
I think the enquiry into the US Space shuttle accident was reasonably useful, largely thanks to the great Richard Feynman who was happy to go against the narrative. We could have done with him today.
The time that we are living through has nothing to do with ‘enquiries’ because these investigations imply a remaining faith in the current order which is going down the plughole at a rapid rate. They won’t be there for you in the hour of need. Look at British civil defence compared to that of other countries, which have nuclear shelters and privision for food and ammuntion for three years. We and the United States offer the least protection to ur citizens in the event of a serious situation.
In his statement at the beginning of the public hearings for the UK Covid-19 Inquiry, on Tuesday 3 October 2023,[1] Lead Counsel Mr Keith says: “An essential part of the Inquiry’s work is therefore to understand whether the proper strategic objectives were identified. Why were the major strategic decisions taken as they were?” A major strategic decision was the implementation of a ‘vaccine solution’ for a disease it was known from the beginning wasn’t a serious threat to most people.[2] How was this evaluated and justified? Where are the minutes of the meeting that approved the ‘vaccine solution’? It seems it was conjured up in the back of a taxi, shared by Andrew Pollard, Chair of the UK Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, and John Edmunds of the UK Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies. In the back of the taxi “they discussed a new virus emerging in China”, as reported in a BMJ interview, published in January 2021, see How the Oxford-AstraZeneca covid-19 vaccine was made: https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/372/bmj.n86.full.pdf According to Andrew Pollard, John Edmunds “…had a fairly catastrophic view of what was likely to happen to the world from that point…That was an incredibly chilling moment because I realised that our… Read more »
The whole framework was licentious from the start that’s the whole point. The implicit trust in pharmaceutical companies – where did that come from given their previous record? Of course it is absurd Doesn’t matter if you frighten people enough you can do anything. Any of us could frighten a thousand people into doing something and yet we would never do that. This is not the way humanity should operatet. I would quit trying to argue these points because it is a moral failing to put it mildly. Such people deserve no forgiveness at all according to my learning.
The next few weeks for us aren’t going to be very pleasant. It won’t be about trivial matters it will be about protecting what is left of our lives and the people that surround us.. You need to be mercurial and adaptable. You will see what I mean. I wish everyone well and don’t be intimidated by these prats.
The “Inquiry” has 3 purposes:
The last thing it is interested in is the truth.
Couldn’t agree with you more, but isn’t there a 4th pupose; to say that “lessons will be learned”?