Gerhard Schröder Says the West Opposed Ukraine Peace Deal
In a recent interview with Berliner Zeitung, Gerhard Schröder claims that in March of 2022, “the Ukrainians did not agree to peace because they were not allowed to”. According to the former German Chancellor, “they first had to ask the Americans about everything they discussed” and “nothing could happen because everything else was decided in Washington”.
Schröder is now the fifth person to state that the West opposed a peace deal in March/April of 2022. In April of 2022, the Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu told the broadcaster CNN Türk:
Following the NATO foreign ministers’ meeting, it was the impression that … there are those within the NATO member states that want the war to continue, let the war continue and Russia gets weaker. They don’t care much about the situation in Ukraine.
Then in May of 2022, one of Zelensky’s “close associates” told the newspaper Ukrainska Pravda that Boris Johnson was an “obstacle” to negotiations because he’d brought two simple messages:
Putin is a war criminal, he should be suppressed, not negotiated with. And secondly, if you are ready to sign any agreements on guarantees with him, then we are not. We can with you, but not with him, he will still abandon everyone.
Then in September of 2022, Putin himself claimed that “a peaceful settlement obviously did not suit the West, which is why, after certain compromises were coordinated, Kiev was actually ordered to wreck all these agreements”.
Then in February of this year, the former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennet (who served as meditator between the two sides) said in an interview that “there was a legitimate decision by the West to keep striking Putin”, to take the “more aggressive approach”. And as a consequence, “they broke off negotiations”.
We also know that the two sides were in fact close to reaching an agreement. As Fiona Hill and Angela Stent wrote in Foreign Policy last September:
According to multiple former senior U.S. officials we spoke with, in April 2022, Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement: Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.
Returning to the recent interview with Schröder, he claims that he “received a request from Ukraine as to whether I could mediate between Russia and Ukraine”. Specifically, he was asked to “convey a message to Putin”. Indeed, Schröder is known to be a friend of the Russian President (which in the absence of other evidence would cast doubt on the veracity of his claims). He then liaised with Rustem Umierov, who has a close relationship with Zelensky.
There were five points the deal needed to address, he says:
First: Ukraine’s renunciation of NATO membership. Ukraine cannot meet the conditions anyway. Second: the problem of language. The Ukrainian parliament has abolished bilingualism. That has to be changed. Third: Donbass remains part of Ukraine. But Donbass needs greater autonomy. A working model would be that of South Tyrol. Fourth: Ukraine also needs security guarantees. The United Nations Security Council plus Germany should provide these guarantees. Fifth: Crimea. How long has Crimea been Russian? For Russia, Crimea is more than just a region, but part of its history.
The fact that no agreement could be reached was “fatal” in Schröder’s view “because the result will now be that Russia will be tied more closely to China, which the West should not want.”
He refrains from speculating as to why the Ukrainians were “not allowed” to cut a deal. The existing evidence points to two reasons. First, Western leaders were concerned that Putin would renege on the agreement – that he would “abandon everyone”, in the words of Boris Johnson. Second, Western leaders felt that with Russia’s invasion floundering, there was a chance to “weaken”, “press” or “smash” Putin.
Whether these are good reasons can certainly be debated. What’s harder to dispute is that the West did oppose a peace deal – one that might have ended the conflict last spring, saving countless lives.
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To the last ukranian! Boris Johnson really is a fetid little war mongering runt. It’s very clear the war machine are after a state of permanent war.
W.r.t. to the issue of the number of wars that the arms trade is involved in now, it reminds me of waiting for a bus, when two or three of them all turn up at once. As someone commented on recently, have a look at BAE systems share price.
Speaking of Lord of the Turds, BoJo has now joined GB News – which seems to be the Tory Party retirement home.
On a Friday at 19:00 they have Lee Anderson, the Conservative’s right wing relief valve!
I pray he rots in hell. forever.
And to think I felt sorry for him when I heard he was dying of covid.
Lol. Utter bastard.
Nobody died of SARS-COV-2.
Certainly a word that rhymes with “runt” comes to mind.
I thought the bloodthirsty warmonger was Putin.
There was an interesting poll published recently showed that 60% of Democrats thought the news was reliable but only 20% of Republicans thought it was reliable.
That pretty much sums up the world now.
The news is nothing but propaganda and the world is divided between those who realise and those who don’t realise or don’t want to realise.
The war enthusiasts are notably absent.
Democrat supporters voted Joe (Big Guy) Crime Family Boss into the White House. Enough said.
Follow the money.
I guess he still wants the job with Russian gas, or whatever it was. Surely ex-Chancellors get enough to live on?
The USA won’t be able to make a fortune “re-building Ukraine” after the war if it doesn’t first allow Putin to completely destroy it.
They’ll want to build it back better of course.
Russia was certainly ready to negotiate.
Not any longer as the West cannot be trusted.
Ukraine and Nato weaponry are being decimated and it is likely that Russia will eventually advance all the way to the Dnieper River and demand the complete surrender of east Ukraine with the western rump fought over by other countries with skin in the game.
Russia is not interested in west Ukraine if it remains neutral.
To the victor the spoils.
Yes. Additionally he may choose to take Odessa and everything up to the Moldovan border and cede the rump of land bordering Romania over to Moldova completely land locking Ukraine.
We will be too busy to notice as the entire Middle East explodes ever closer to going nuclear.
One wonders how the West could be so strategically incompetent. There has to be fifth columnists or something. They are simultaneously improving Russian power and control in Europe, alighting the entire non Western globe, destroying their economies and bringing us to the brink of if not nuclear annihilation then a pretty good chance it’s only ally in the region is going to get destroyed.
Originally, Russia were liberating the ethnic Russians being persecuted and shelled by the new ultranationalist government of Ukraine after the 2014 US led Maidan coup.
Russia are now also fighting for their own survival against Nato’s proxy war against them.
History shows that Russia never give up when they know they are in the right.
It is likely Russia will advance all the way to the Dnieper River and maybe take Odessa and create a land bridge to Transnistria.
HOWEVER LONG IT TAKES.
I can’t see Russia being interested in West Ukraine or any other European country.
“The most dangerous scenario [for America] would be a grand coalition of China, Russia, and perhaps Iran, an ‘antihegemonic’ coalition united not by ideology but by complimentary grievances.”
Zbigniew Brzezinski in The Grand Chessboard (1997).
I was wondering…do people watching the decimation in Gaza, now understand the difference between that and a SMO … do you think…?
Russia hasn’t declared war on Ukraine and embarked on a limited Special Military Operation to protect civilian lives.
Russia are quite capable of the barbaric US style “shock and awe” but chose a much more sedate approach against it’s Slavic brothers and sisters to minimize civilian casualties.
Putin said all along that the main aims were “demilitarization” and “deNazification” with no time limit.
They are succeeding on both counts.
Israel are using the US copy book to bomb Palestinians to oblivion, more than half the deaths are women and children.
I can only hope that Ukrainian and Israeli fan boys in the West can see the difference.
Dear Gerhard… Of course in a world with people with a brain between their ears, and the skill of diplomacy..which now seems to be a lost ancient skill practised only by our forbears, no President of the United States would ever push an ally, with a largely white Christian population and a Western/European outlook… situated on the edge of Europe as a bulwark against the countries of the east…and which is also the biggest energy supplier…..that is Russia.. …into the arms of the biggest manufacturing economy, China, and then keep pushing until they both link up with historical Persia….Iran, home to a quarter of the Middle East oil reserves..… to complete a formidable military and economic troika… ..with at least 40 countries..wanting to join their BRICS group, which they view as an alternative to global bodies which are dominated by traditional Western powers with whom they see no chance of development in trade and investment or financial development… …but what can I tell you? We only have turnip-brained fu*k*wits, who barely know their arse from their elbow. Who know that there’s a story about a carrot and a stick, but who have completely forgotten what a carrot is, what it’s… Read more »
I have long thought that the best way to break the grip of Hamas on Palestinians is by making life easier by helping the people of that godforsaken state rather than causing them grief at every opportunity.
There are many exhortations in the Bible about helping ones neighbour – it used to be the Christian way, but the largely Christian West seem to no longer see that as fashionable, and neither do the Israelis, for whom the eye for an eye of the Old Testament seems more appropriate.
Tip. Stop imagining that anyone in the Middle East thinks like you do.
I am not imagining anything. I am suggesting that the big stick hasn’t worked over the last 50 plus years and maybe a different approach should be tried, after all, the Christian philosophy originated in the Middle East.
Yes sometimes one side wins and that is the end of it….Here in Wales we have many castles from the clashes with the English.
…there’s only the stick..we see it over and over in the West..
and that’s why China’s non-aggressive, road, hospital, factory building infrastructure plans and quiet diplomacy will win…
… and sabotage his own Country’s oil and gas industry and use up the national oil reserves.
…oh it’s all about to rain down..they’ve depleted so much ammunition and weapons stock..they are in so much debt…and they still waffle on about taking on China, Russia and Iran.. at the same time? Total morons…
So it is the West that prevented peace, the West that is supplying munitions, the West that is providing the targeting and strategic advice, the West that is happy for Ukraine to keep lobbing cluster shells into civilian areas of Donetsk (more casualties only yesterday) and yet Russia is the aggressor and Putin the war criminal..
It is a funny old world.
Well it will be good to see how the International Criminal Court deal with Israel won’t it? I mean Putin’s supposed ‘crimes’ pale into insignificance in comparison….
I saw an Israeli on X yesterday actually asking….why are the USA here?
Do they think we don’t have the military might to flatten Gaza? Are you kidding..what do they think we need them for?
He wasn’t being ironic..and it got me thinking…why exactly are the USA there in force…?
Hezbollah, Iran, Turkey, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Russia…
Israel can flatten Gaza, push the remaining 2 million into the sea and or Egypt but they cannot face off against everyone around them. They might throw out a nuke or 10 if things get real bad.
..yes, but that kind of pre-supposes that they think that might happen..what exactly do they think they are going to do about it??
You may or may not have seen this with McGregor
https://youtu.be/00frv5blaXM?si=br8BSAqCXyySGwyR
i think they (US) think that they will deter Iran from intervening when they bomb Hezbollah in South Lebanon. I think they cannot conceive of Iran getting involved if they have two CSGs in the area. But they are ready to bomb assets in Iran should that happen.
They don’t expect the other players to get involved but I think there is a very good chance they will.
I am sure there is a deal Russia would accept. It would involve retaining all the oblasts they wholly or partly control now and Ukrainian withdrawal.
Then Russia could rebuild its forces while undermining Ukraine and western support.
in a couple of years Putin would reinvade.
The logic is just the same as Ganas and calls by foolish or evil supportes for a cease fire. It goes like this: we invaded you after years of rocket bombardment, we spent Conor aid to arm and build tunnels, we invaded and murdered raped and kidnapped civilians. Now please Israe stop attacking us so we can Co silicate and refresh our power to attack you again.
What is “Conor aid” and what does “Co silicate” mean? These and other grammatical eccentricities make your argument hard to follow.
‘Of course what is happening in Crimea (Putin’s invasion) is in breach of international law.”
Gerhard Schroeder 2014
‘“We sent our planes to Serbia (March 24-June 10, 1999) and they bombed a sovereign state together with NATO, without the existence of a resolution from the security council,”
Gerhard Schroeder, German Chancellor 1999
‘We want to see Russia weakened to the degree that it can’t do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine.’
U.S. Defence Secretary Lloyd Austin 25 April 2022
Nobody seems to have spent much time on negotiations, including Schroeder.
Hmmmm……..
Both sides in this conflict are Soviets.
The Soviet idea of international treaties:
‘A nation makes international agreements that are in that nation’s interests and will abide by those agreements unless it is to that nation’s advantage to violate them despite the costs of such violations. In other words, much of law is based on self-interest.’
Soviet International Law: Theory and Practice. Rozanne D. Oliver
So, in summary, neither Russia nor Ukraine will trust the other to abide by any treaty
And the U.S. doesn’t want any negotiations.
And neither did Schroeder 14 April 1999, offering Milosevic terms that he had already rejected.
It is true if you actually stop and think about it. Would you consign 500,000 human beings to death in the pursuit of an objective. I would say the answer would always be no. Even if, as the globalists say, if we don’t reduce population then we all die then I say we all die. The assertion of western power has proved a failure and an enduring one given how weapons buyers look at performance in war. This ruling class fear is a very important reality and it can be seen in the writings of 2500 years ago. It is simply an intuition of basic mathematics that given progression in terms of breeding we continually outnumber them with a growing and accelerating margin. You can put forward many rational arguments for their position but ultimately it is faithless. I have every faith that humanity is improving so rapidly that it is unable to see what is happening.
What sort of personality do you have to have to send hundreds of thousands of people to their deaths? It was obvious from very early on the disparity in casualties that would occur. And these were fine young men from a much less corrupted country than ours but by the usual means the Brits got another country to kill its best. I hope they keep alive an historical memory.
Don’t be in this mindset where we in this country might be safe because we are an island. Missiles don’t care if you are an island or not. Don’t be complacent about it because you don’t want to walk into a really bad situation and have decided not to understand it. Just not being able to sleep at night because of bombing changes everything. And if you have nukes going off down the road, will you really be brave enough to visit Lidl? Your neighbour will be toast. Pets and farm animals will last about 4 days. Then we are talking more drastic measures if you need meat. Are you ready for that? What does one cannibal say to another cannibal?
There is no stopping what is to come given that there will be several aircraft carriers in one place very soon. I would just take pause if you can. None of those guns or warships will be capable of keeping alive Anglo-American hegemony. I agree I wish it would continue forever but it is over. A truly martial person understands this and considers it appropriately.
I wouldn’t recommend it in terms of mental health and sleep deprivation and if it happens this time just bear in mind that there won’t be a redemptive vision of the future like which happened before. It is up to you I would just caution against it. No sleep is bad enough but then restricted food and no quality of life. Don’t sign yourself up with this force for nothing. Just don’t do it you will regret it later.
Wow, the plot thickens.
What is George Osborne doing consorting with Schroeder and the Grand Mufti?
That is Dmitry Medvedev I think, not Osborne.
If you think any kind of peace deal would have lasted from then until now, then you haven’t been paying attention. Both protagonists are, essentially, Soviet.
‘A nation makes international agreements that are in that nation’s interests and will abide by those agreements unless it is to that nation’s advantage to violate them despite the costs of such violations. In other words, much of law is based on self-interest, keeping in mind that self-interest includes the necessity of accepting some restrictions on one’s freedom of action.’
Soviet International Law: Theory and Practice. Rozanne D. Oliver
For all the dreamers: ‘(Russian) defensive belts they have established full of dense and well-laid minefields do not appear to extend more than 10-15 miles from the front lines in most areas. Unless they are able to establish new lines further to the rear as their defending forces fight and withdraw, they will find themselves at some point having to defend much less well prepared positions. Considering that the forces currently fighting are the ones that dug and prepared the current defences and that the Russians do not have enough troops to man multiple defensive lines (which we assess to be true because such forces would be suitable for use as reserves, whereas the Russians clearly do not have reserves), it is unlikely that they will be able to replicate their current defensive lines further to the rear. Even if they could, however, the Russians would find themselves with another problem as Ukrainian troops move to within artillery range of critical supply nodes and road junctions. As the Ukrainian advance grinds on, in this scenario, Ukrainian forces will ultimately move to within artillery range of the primary Rostov-to-Crimea (ground line of communications) GLOCs themselves, which would likely begin to unhinge… Read more »
“What’s harder to dispute is that the West did oppose a peace deal – one that might have ended the conflict last spring, saving countless lives”
Boris Johnson has gone from hero to zero and worse in my book. How many deaths is that man responsible for now? Lockdowns, experimental jabs and now stopping peace in Ukraine. The man’s a menace or worse.
By the way UK Column have been banging on about this for a couple of years.
PS and now he’s being employed by GB News!
Thank you for this article, Noah. Not for the first time you are striking the right note, unlike some of your colleagues. You will find a lot of support in the readership.
Apart from 1 obviously (no it wasn’t me!).