The Impenetrable Complexity of the Israel-Palestine Conflict
There are layers to Israel, and to the Israel-Palestine problem. There is something that has happened, recently: which, on the surface, are the sudden raids by Hamas militants, terrorists, jihadis, what you will, out of the Gaza strip, leading to the murder and rape and abduction of more than 1,500 people. This is the originary event, in recent times. Then there are the reactions to this: firstly, shock and disgust, which was universal at first, for a day, and which some parties want to hold onto, while some other parties want to abandon it for some other sort of reaction. So secondly, we have the reaction which goes beyond the originary event, and refers to context: this context is the contemporary situation in Israel-Palestine-Gaza; and what we find here is the emergence of an argument taking place between two emphatic sides: one which alludes to the originary event, and therefore sides with the Israeli victims, and, consequently, with the state of Israel which is the defender of Israelis (and justifies a retaliatory military intervention); and another which contextualises the event by saying that there is religious, political and historical background which suggests that we should take one step back and see the Israelis as the perpetuator of the first crime – the real originary event – and the provokers of the crime by Hamas which is a second crime, which was a crime carried out on behalf of the legitimate aims of the Palestinian population of Gaza. By this standard, anything that Israel does is not part of its reaction to someone else’s crime, but a continuation of its own original crime. Already, this is quite complicated. But it throws up a simple opposition between those who condemn a crime, and those who extenuate a crime by pointing to a greater crime.
Then, at a deeper level, we have the total historical situation, which is geopolitical – since it concerns the status of the state of Israel, a lone Jewish state in the middle of the Arabic world – and also religious – since it concerns the rivalry of two of the most determined scriptural monotheistic faiths, Islam and Judaism; and also since it interests a largely but not entirely secularised Christian West. Then there is the fact that within Western countries there are long established though not entirely fixed allegiances between certain political positions and certain sides in this battle. So we see, now, that the Left mostly sides with Palestine, and (as far as their opponents are concerned) with Hamas, and, perhaps accidentally, but significantly, with Islam, and hence are opposed to Israel, Zionism and Judaism to varying and complicated extents; while the Right mostly takes the opposite side, siding with Israel and hence Jews against Palestine and ultimately, but again, complicatedly, Islam. All this is modified by various sorts of Liberalism – that descendant of one strand of secularised Judaism (courtesy of Spinoza) and Christianity (courtesy of Locke, Smith, Kant and Mill) – which attempts to acknowledge what we nowadays rather pretentiously call ‘nuance’ (as if it is a singular thing) but which we should probably call rival positions.
Every response, and every article, and every utterance is a simplification: a sort of sword thrust through the arras of an almost grotesque complexity: in which we cannot avoid reference to the Quran or the Old Testament but in which, if we do refer to them, we are, again, engaging in over-simplification (in assuming that texts have simple consequences in historical times).
And beyond the complexities there are the ironies. These include the fact that the Palestinians may originally have been converted Jews, and that many returning Jews were in fact converts from other religions – as detailed in Shlomo Sand’s book The Invention of the Jews. These include the fact that both sides share a similar, but not identical, solipsism, of supposing, at some level, that their existence and their actions are sanctified by a regime of significance dependent on a monotheistic God, Yahweh or Allah, who was also a grand legislator at various times for the chosen people of Israel and the second chosen people of Arabia: operating with languages which are supposedly God’s own language. Both are religions of works: unlike Christianity, which is a religion of faith. So Christianity does not fit simply in this comparison (despite our memory of the Crusades, which were a very literal, almost imitative sort of enterprise, attempting to reclaim someone else’s Holy Land of Jerusalem): though it is of course implicated through its own half-Roman imperial sensibility and also its own half-Hebrew city-on-a-hill type consciousness.
At this point we have to engage in simplicity. Judaism wants its Promised Land, its Zion, its Holy City, its New Jerusalem which is also the Old Jerusalem. Islam wants the World. But Islam, originally friendly to Judaism, also wants Jerusalem: hegemony over it, though not necessarily hegemony over the Jewish mind. Muslims were, at first, friendlier to Jews than Romans or Christians were, but Arab nationalism turned Islam – with its imperial sensibility – into a far more fractured and fissiparous entity – defensive rather than calmly dominant – and of course the arrival of the imposed state of Israel turned Arab defensiveness after the demise of the Ottoman empire into an extremely tightly focused determination to begin the reconquest of the world, or, at least the bit of it to which Arabs feels entitled, by eliminating the secular Jewish state from Jerusalem. This is about long historical legacies, dating back 70 years, or 700, or several thousand, and it is about Books. At some level, it is a battle of the books; but this battle, which seems world-historical, is of course being conducted by men who may simply want some sort of local reason for their classical comitatus activities of sharing brotherhood. In the West, we tame our young men with education, sport, business, recruitment into the lower levels of a mandarinate, and many mindless recreations and narcotic distractions; but elsewhere there is a stronger survival of the old comitatus model, noticed by Tacitus and almost everyone in the ancient world, as well as by most 20th Century anthropologists, who saw that the way to deal with aggressive young men was to send them to the boundaries of one’s order in gangs to murder, rape, steal and, by this means, to extend the older man’s order. This phenomenon is ineliminable, and remains atavistic, even in the West. And, of course, in the West, it has been tamed also by the odd method of bringing women into it, so they share in the slightly tamed versions of comitatus activity, of taking sides, shouting, protesting and so on. This explains, perhaps, the rise of all the noise in the West, as the young (with the perversity of a youth culture) hasten to side with victims: taking the side of one’s preferred victims being one of the strangest of modern justifications for an allowed and half-tamed expression of a violent sensibility.
I don’t have more to say about any of this. I am not following the news carefully, and have no particular views about the situation. I am not taking sides. But of course I notice that whereas almost everyone seems to have been united in being for Ukraine and against Russia, the problem of Israel and Palestine has become a general source of disunity in the West, and part of the toxicity of the problem is its transcendence of context. There is what is happening locally; and then there is the magnified, chaotic, half-violent, extremely felt politics of what is happening everywhere else as everyone feels obliged to have an opinion, or at least a reaction to someone else’s opinion. It is not good, all this magnified chaotic politics. It should not be as significant as it is on the streets or on social media. It is as if we, on social media, are always in the position of the crowd in the New Testament who told Pilate to crucify him. The object of crucifixion might change. Some say crucify Hamas. Others say crucify Israel. It is all heat and almost no light. One can see why some people think that the enemies of the West are exulting in having found yet another issue on which our political order can be confounded and brought to ignore its own problems, and why some people think that grand interests in the West are also delighted to find that another problem has come along to spare us from paying too much attention to their errors about other problems – Covid, for instance, or Climate – in recent years. The whole thing is disturbing, and deliberately so, and we would be wise to hold onto some sense of proportion, in this, as in all things.
Dr. James Alexander is a Professor in the Department of Political Science at Bilkent University in Turkey.
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A pointless article.
“I am not following the news carefully, and have no particular views about the situation.”
But you didn’t have to read it! So, a pointless comment. I found the article interesting, as are so many articles on the DS, even those which state an opinion with which I disagree.
I had to read it to know it was pointless as it added nothing to one’s understanding of the situation.
It may have been pointless for you but others who are clearly less knowledgeable than you may have found a point to it.
One has to read an article in order to know its quality and to comment.
If there are articles with which you disagree, by your reasoning, you didn’t have to read them.
But then how would you know whether you disagreed?
GlassHalfFull
Maybe not pointless, if you are a Professor of Political Science at a Turkish University.
Professors told us the experimental jabs were “safe and effective” but it doesn’t mean they were right.
Too true.
I personally would be more inclined to accept the opinion of a random dustman rather than a random “Professor”, on just about any subject.
There are, of course, many notable and even heroic exceptions. Even amongst “Professors”. I have in fairness, read previous pieces by Dr. Alexander on DailySceptic with interest.
Being (I assume) an adherent of the “Religion of Peace”, I can well understand he felt the need to pen a little piece which is, ahem, a bit anodyne. I wish him well.
This author writes an excellent article explaining what is happening now, on the streets of the West following the Oct 7th atrocities in Israel, and how it’s all linked to the woke mind virus. ”The same UK police who have arrested people in the recent past for misgendering trans persons or for praying silently near abortion clinics have been extremely tolerant of public Islamic calls to harm Jews. It is a shocking disgrace, but it reveals who has the real power in contemporary Britain. Several British friends shared with me in recent days their despair over whether the UK even has the wherewithal to confront the Left. The weakness of the authorities in the face of hysterical Muslim anti-Semitism was a true ‘blackpill’ moment for them. Last week, I had drinks in Budapest with a British man in town looking for a bolthole to which his family can escape when things go belly-up in his native land. That’s how bad it is. The examples are endless. The pro-Hamas mass demonstrations only bring the meaning of ‘wokeness’ and decadence to a sharp point. We in the West, especially our leadership classes—in the state, the media, academia, business, the church, and others—have allowed things to… Read more »
First class comment, Mogwai.
This article just shows that apparently ‘smart’ people are stupid.
3000 years ago David took Jerusalem.
Except for 135AD (when Hadrian expelled the Jews and called the region Palaestina after the Philistines) there has always been a Jewish presence.
‘Palestine’ was never a country. No capital, currency, indigenous people. The ‘ Palestinians’ didn’t exist as a ‘people’ until Yasser Arafat coined the term in 1967.
The vast majority of Israel was purchased at exorbitant price from absentee Ottoman landlords, swamps and desert then made fruitful.
The so-called ‘West Bank’ is Biblical Judea and Samaria. Read your Bible to see how Jesus, a Jew, ministered there.
The Temple in Jerusalem demonstrates 3000 years of Jewish history.
Israel is the size of Wales. It is 0.25% of the Middle East.
Israel wins every war the Arabs start, each time winning more land. Sometimes it gives it back.
I really wish these Professors and Drs would do their homework.
Most importantly, the God of Israel promised them the land for an everlasting possession.
His is the only opinion that matters.
Harsh. He’s only saying that people not directly affected by the conflict should chill out a bit, and perhaps be a bot more observant and less judgemental of the situation.
Seems like a pretty good idea to me.
I don’t believe in the “God of Israel”, so his opinion doesn’t matter to me, and using an imaginary deity just underlines the intellectual and moral feebleness of your position.
However, I do know that the Ashkenazi Jews behind Zionism had lived in Europe for 2,000 years before Israel was created and are on average of 60% European ancestry, while the Palestinians are overwhelmingly descended from the people living in that part of the Roman Empire at the time of the Arab conquest.
This is the first time I’ve come across an article here with an equal balance of pro and anti reactions. Which kind of proves the author’s point, or lack thereof. Maybe on its own the whole problem is intractable. I’d just say that as a recently returned Catholic Christian both sides have the wrong religion and need Jesus Christ. Amen.
Neil makes a very important point.
This strip of land was fought over by various empires for centuries and part of different countries. It used to be or maybe still is important strategically and religiously.
What I find is that people don’t know the truth about Israel and so many people trust MSM. What you have said is correct. I think Dr James Alexander lost me by using words an “uneducated to his level” person like me wouldn’t know. I couldn’t be bothered to go looking them up! I think it is far from a pointless article though. It made me think and I wondered where if at all he used the Bible for any history. The Roman’s renamed Israel Pax Palestina after the Philistines who were enemies of Israel. The did this during their occupation of Israel because they were fed up with the Jews and saw them as more trouble than they were worth, and also because they wanted to upset them. When Mark Twain visited Israel (Palestine) in the late 1800’s his comment is mentioned in the Jerusalem Post: “There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent – not for 30 miles in either direction. There are two or three small clusters of Bedouin tents, but not a single permanent habitation. One may ride 10 miles, hereabouts, and not see 10 human beings.” He continued (Jerusalem Post): “Of all the… Read more »
Hallelujah! At last an article on DS that recognises the complexity and advocates for the right of people to not take sides.
Israel: bully or victim? Both.
Hamas: genuine reasons to be angry, or bloodthirsty terrorists? Both.
Anyone who sees one side good, other side bad, is either hopelessly biased or catastrophically ill-informed.
I have reasons to be angry about some people, but I don’t slaughter and butcher their babies.
By the by: careful getting down off that fence.
So you think only one side has done bad things?
Sorry, which particular side doing the the slaughter are you talking about anyway?
Don’t you understand that killing 100 children with knives is far, far worse than killing ten thousand with artillery shells and missiles, which leave unmarked bodies with smiles on their faces?
The whole point is that both are bad. It’s not a question of who is worse. Both sides are at fault.
It’s not complex at all, it’s quite simple.
Palestinians to Israelis: we offer you peace in exchange for your complete annihilation.
Israelis to Palestinians: no thank you.
“… since it concerns the rivalry of two of the most determined scriptural monotheistic faiths, Islam and Judaism…”
Judaism goes back probably about 5 000 years or more, Islam is a 7th Century mishmash, plagiarising Judaism and 700 year old Christianity, an off-shoot of Judaism – Jesus being a Jew.
Where’s the rivalry?
I think you haven’t quite understood the message Israel has given to the Palestinians over the years.
What if it’s not complicated? What if it’s really quite simple? What if it simply comes down to the fact that the Palestinian leadership:
a) does not want peace
b) wants destruction of the Jewish state
c) seeks to kill Jews
d) will put no limit on the loss of Palestinian lives in achieving b) and c)
And Israel’s position is……?
None of the above, mutatis mutandis.
Ok, so if not the above, then what? Are they just great guys and gals going about their peaceful business, or are they in any way also pay off the problem?
This is what I meant above. Blinkered views lead to war.
Participated in negotiations and a Two-State solution on several occasions ….. which the Palestinians have rejected every time.
Ah I see. So all good stuff then. Nothing… problematic? Maybe you should tell this to Antonio Guterres.
Or is it conceivable that you are one of those biased or ill-informed people I mentioned earlier?
Nothing that is built on our neurological functionality is impenetrable, even when it’s complex. A belief that there is no way out is a kind of philosophical suicide. That said, the historic analysis is interesting, but proposals that might work would be even better.
What a lot of equivocating bollocks. I’d be more eloquent, but this piffle doesn’t merit eloquence.
originary…fissiparous…who edited this – Leonard Sachs?
It’s not that complicated. Except there is so much BS surrounding the conflict.
Blumenthal confronts a slew of nonsense here
https://youtu.be/eCcVvp0eBaQ?si=FWNvBNVy_Tz2ICNH
I found this interesting background, particularly the explanation about methods of “taming” violent youth.
It therefore seems to me to be particularly moronic of our Establishment to import so many young men from the Middle East, where their violent tendencies are encouraged, and then do nothing to make them conform to OUR values.
It certainly explains the nature of the demonstrations in favour of the Hamas butchers on the streets of London, and why Plod is so terrified of enforcing the “hate laws” which they use so enthusiastically on women praying silently in the vicinity of an abortion clinic.
On the plus side, I don’t believe a single Minister/MP has had the nerve to tell us that Islam “a religion of peace” since the invasion of Israel and murder of 1000+ civilians.
Do read Joel Smalley’s substack dated today Oct. 25th and take the quiz to see just how much you really know about the Palestine/Israel conflict. I would bet most Americans and Brits could not score higher than 20%, if that.
https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=579085&post_id=138272347&utm_source=post-email-title&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=xm0yl&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo1NjQ1NTAwNSwicG9zdF9pZCI6MTM4MjcyMzQ3LCJpYXQiOjE2OTgyMjk5OTMsImV4cCI6MTcwMDgyMTk5MywiaXNzIjoicHViLTU3OTA4NSIsInN1YiI6InBvc3QtcmVhY3Rpb24ifQ.3ypHfdUiMrOmzLlxa-288u8vmUsGBtdwGxs6nIzrHbo